How do you rank Mike Tyson and your age?

[ripcity]

I have him at #5 on my all time heavyweight list. Outstanding power, exlent defense about 10 defenses of his tittle. I'm 35 years old.
My reason for asking about age is that I got a feeling that people around my age are going to rank him higher than those who are both younger and older. I have decided to put this theory to the test.

[Russell]

It's a sound theory.

I think I'd rank him somewhere in the lower top ten. 7-10, somewhere in there if I were to make a list.

I'm just shy of 21 years old.

[Muchmoore]

I have Tyson around 4-5 although Head to Head he is a few spots higher.

I'm 17.

[Quickhands21]

im 22 from 7-10.

[Bokaj]

I'm 33. Lower end of the top 10. Perhaps just outside it.

[TommyV]

10-12.

I'm 16.

[heehoo]

28 and I rank him at least in the top 100. Overall.

Top 30 heavyweight-wise.

[Sweet Pea]

28 and I rank him at least in the top 100. Overall.

Top 30 heavyweight-wise.You'd rank 30 HW's in the top 100 fighters of all time P4P?

[heehoo]

You'd rank 30 HW's in the top 100 fighters of all time P4P?

Ok, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, I just found him to be overrated. Put him in front a real fighter, like, say Evander Holyfield, and he's beaten. it pisses me off when Tyson fanbois (not accusing any of you of being such) say that he's the greatest of all time and would knock everybody out if he fought in their time when he isn't nowhere near that label and guys like Ali would make him look silly.

He's top ten.

[OBCboxer]

I have him around 6 or 7.

I'am 16.

[Bigcat]

I am 35 and i definitely have Mike (of 1988 ) inside my 10.. lower end though..

[McGrain]

31.

#8

[McGrain]

You'd rank 30 HW's in the top 100 fighters of all time P4P?

:lol:

I wonder tough - how many fighters who fought at HW - even if they are not known for that weight - would be in your 100.

Remeber guys like Wilde, Jones, Toney, Kid Lewis, Fitzsimmons etc. etc.

[the cobra]

Guaranteed top 12 IMO, usually just makes the top 10 at heavyweight.

I'm 17 (18 in two days)

[Sweet Pea]

18 years old. I've ranked him between #7 and #12 before, so we'll just say he's around the #10 spot nowadays.

[stonerose]

32 years old about 5/6.

[McGrain]

Guaranteed top 12 IMO, usually just makes the top 10 at heavyweight.

I'm 17 (18 in two days)

Christ, another wunderkid.

[the cobra]

Originally posted by McGrain
Christ, another wunderkid.
I know, I'm amazing. :rasta(this rasta thing is by far the coolest)

[janitor]

I just found him to be overrated. Put him in front a real fighter, like, say Evander Holyfield, and he's beaten. it pisses me off when Tyson fanbois (not accusing any of you of being such) say that he's the greatest of all time and would knock everybody out if he fought in their time when he isn't nowhere near that label and guys like Ali would make him look silly.


Perhaps a reaction has set in too far the other way among some people.

We hear people saying that he would fold if anybody stood up to him, that he only won because his oponents were scared, and that he never really beat anybody.

I dont buy this.

[McGrain]

I know, I'm amazing. :rasta(this rasta thing is by far the coolest)

It fucking is! If I did a pound por pound list at 17 it would be -

1 - Mike Tyson
2 - Jack Johnson
3 - Grandad Ross
4 - Frank Bruno
5 - Nigel Benn

[Rubber Warrior]

Rank him? Based on what criteria?

Criteria is everything.

[marciano1952]

18 years old

somewhere in the mid to lower teens in the top 20

[SOMERSETDURAN]

I'm 35 and I would put him at around 15-17 of my top 20, but much higher H2H prime for prime.

[teeto]

im 23, i have ranked him as high as 6 at times in the past, lets say top ten for the sake of this thread.

If there is an aspect of the aim of this thread that is based on establishing if any of us have a fondness of Tyson, then let me say, i will be difficult to top there.

[the cobra]

Originally posted by McGrain
It fucking is! If I did a pound por pound list at 17 it would be -

1 - Mike Tyson
2 - Jack Johnson
3 - Grandad Ross
4 - Frank Bruno
5 - Nigel Benn
I found this list from about two years ago.

1 - Robinson
2 - Duran
3 - Armstrong
4 - Ali
5 - Whitaker
6 - Ray Leonard
7 - Louis
8 - Chavez
9 - Hagler
10 - Jones

I probably had never seen any footage of Robinson or Armstrong then. I was just going off word of mouth and in the case of Whitaker and Jones, the small amount of boxing that I had seen. It's ridiculous how much you can learn in such little time with the internet at your disposal.
:rasta (seriously, this thing is too badass, I don't even know what it is suppose to mean)

[Charles White]

I have him around 6 or 7.

I'am 16. I second that, only I just turned 18 a few weeks ago.

[SteveO]

I'm 22 and would rank him around 8-10 based on accomplishments.

Head to head, a bit higher depending on the day.

[Rebel-INS]

18 years old. I've ranked him between #7 and #12 before, so we'll just say he's around the #10 spot nowadays.

Similar position to me. I'm 21.

[ishy]

Damn all you people who are a similar age to me and far outstrip me in boxing knowledge!

I'm 17 and have Tyson at around 9-10.

[OBCboxer]

I remeber a year or so ago when I was likee 14 or 15, I thought Tyson was unbeatable in his prime and he was the greatest Heavyweight of all time. So much learned in little time.

[Russell]

It fucking is! If I did a pound por pound list at 17 it would be -

1 - Mike Tyson
2 - Jack Johnson
3 - Grandad Ross
4 - Frank Bruno
5 - Nigel Benn

:lol::lol::lol:

[rekcutnevets]

I'm 31, and I have Tyson 10th.

[radianttwilight]

Couple weeks shy of 19, rank him lower top 10.

Definitely top 10, though.

[The Predator]

I´m 42 anf I have him around #5.
The predator

[fists of fury]

36 years old...I don't really think about rankings all that often, but I'd absolutely have him in the top 10. I can't see him being higher than #6, but I can't see him lower than #9.

[fists of fury]

Christ, another wunderkid.

I think it's great that there are so many quality posters that are young. Who says boxing's fanbase is made up of mostly people in their 40's or 50's?

[fists of fury]

I'm 32 years old and I got into boxing because of Mike Tyson...

1. Marciano
2. Dempsey
3. Louis
4. Tunney
5. Ali
6. Tyson
7. Jeffries
8. Sullivan
9. Holmes
10. Holyfield

This is a refreshing list. Nice to see one without Ali or Louis as a lock for positions #1 and #2. :good

[fists of fury]

Perhaps a reaction has set in too far the other way among some people.

We hear people saying that he would fold if anybody stood up to him, that he only won because his oponents were scared, and that he never really beat anybody.

I dont buy this.

Neither do I really. There is some truth to it, but it's way too overstated and oversimplified.
I can understand the reaction to overzealous fanboyism, but the reaction sometimes goes a bit over the top.

[Ezzard]

Somewhere between 10-20 I'm 37...

[Loewe]

I don´t do lists but I wouldn´t call him one of the elite hws. I´m 26 btw.

[Holmes' Jab]

#8.

I'm 23 years old, 24 next month.

[The Wanderer]

I'm 28 and would put him in the lower end of my HW top 10, probably somewhere from 7-10.

In his prime he mostly fought B or C level fighters, (if not worse), and sometimes looked ordinary even then. Add in how quickly his tools and capabilities fell apart once his original team was gone and the mental instability and I have a real hard time ranking him any higher than that.

In H2H matchups he presents problems for many fighters, but even H2H, I'm tempted to say there's a lot of guys that would just let him shoot his bolt in the early rounds and then dominate him later. (Tyson had decent enough stamina, and sometimes finished well late, but even at his best and when they were still together Rooney used to say that he just wasn't the same fighter after 6 rounds or so).

[punchy]

Just out of my top five and I am 50, after the Ali era no one really knew who the HW champ was until Tyson came along this may be hard for younger posters who didn't live through the Ali era to understand but it was true.

In hindsight Holmes was the standout and when you look at his resume he must be ranked as an all time great but at the time he didn't catch people's imagination and was an unpopular champ amidst all the other alphabet champs.

Then along came Tyson cutting a swathe through the lot of them, a real fighting man in the mode of Dempsey, Liston and Marciano. Its crap that Tyson fought B and C level fighters he fought the best out there at the time and if only we had someone like him now.

Then along ca

[TIGEREDGE]

I have him at #5 on my all time heavyweight list. Outstanding power, exlent defense about 10 defenses of his tittle. I'm 35 years old.
My reason for asking about age is that I got a feeling that people around my age are going to rank him higher than those who are both younger and older. I have decided to put this theory to the test.


fans who are not old enough to remember his peak years really rate him high like yourself

[Sweet Pea]

This is a refreshing list. Nice to see one without Ali or Louis as a lock for positions #1 and #2. :goodIt was a terrible list in all reality. There isn't a single argument to be made where Tunney could conceivably rank above Ali.

[Holmes' Jab]

Nor Dempsey top 10, nevermind 2nd. :shock:

[fists of fury]

To each his own.

[Bill Butcher]

I have Tyson at No3

I am 28 (29 on the 18th)

[Bill Butcher]

It was a terrible list in all reality. There isn't a single argument to be made where Tunney could conceivably rank above Ali.

Beat me to it... Ali MUST rank higher than Gene Tuney, absolutely must, no matter which criteria you value the most when judging the ATGness of fighters.


Ps. Im suprised by your age, we dont always agree but I will admit you are really knowledable for 18.

Just goes to show with so many clued up young fans that boxing will never die no matter how big MMA becomes (Im also a big MMA fan & view them as separate sports rather than rival sports.)

:thumbsup

[Scorpion]

I am 16.
I rank him H2H about 1-3
and all time about 5-10

[ripcity]

fans who are not old enough to remember his peak years really rate him high like yourself
I was 14-17 during his prime. I'm old enough to remember his prime.

[Vanboxingfan]

I ranking him about 11-12 based on career accomplishments. H2h I'd rank him 5-6 although admittedly, like everyone else when he was at peak he appeared indestructable.

I'm one of the old guys checking in at 45.

[bigG]

i say 95% of the time tyson beats 95% of heavyweights...his savage offense, handspeed, footspeed, elusive bob and weave peek a boo style made him hard to catch yet immediately able to go on hellacious offensive...a great finisher and, in his VERY brief peak, almost..i say almost..unstoppable......

oh and im 39 and have only recently started to feel this way after having studied tysons fights...the man was, again, briefly, a fuckin wrecking ball....vs spinks..vs biggs..vs holmes...(a holmes who was rusty but not shot as his later career showed..)..he was a phenom...

[ironchamp]

I'm 27.

ATG Standings # 7
H2H 1-3

[Unforgiven]

I'm 35

i rate Tyson around top 20 all-time heavyweight

[DamonD]

31 years old, with Tyson just outside my Top Ten.

Although really, is being a Top 15 or 20 heavyweight ever really such a horrible insult?

[guilalah]

Forty-Three.

I'd put him somewhere around #8 to #15 alltime heavy.

[Minotauro]

I have him at 13 and I'm 20.

[donizhere]

i put him in the top 5 ATG, one reason is Larry Holmes,

Larry fought until he was over 50 and never got knocked out since prime tyson.

i'm 20

[TIGEREDGE]

I was 14-17 during his prime. I'm old enough to remember his prime.

i was 13-14 during his prison comeback years 95-96 and i really and other lads my age really rate him

[rydersonthestorm]

i rate him top 15 of all time and top ten h2h and i am 25

[My dinner with Conteh]

Mid-30s.


Around 8th.


And I fucking hate the cunt. :good

[Arka]

Mike is not even close top 10, I would say at best top 20. I have him at 19, and I am 37 years old. Bottom line is Mike lost almost every time it mattered, he was great at beating up fat bums or 175lb fighters but when he faced real top heavy weights he lost almost every time.

At 200lbs or less I think he would have been top 1-2 of all time but who cares about that division.
Shit Haglerfans! :shock:
Are you seriously rating him ahead of Dempsey or Marciano?

[Arriba]

I'm 20 and I have him anywhere from 6-10 depending on how I feel that day. I'm still relatively new to the DEEP history of boxing so naturally it changes depending on how much I see of a fighter.

[butler08]

i was never old enough to see tyson live i am 15 now but after extencily watching his fights i put top five all time heavyweights and top 10 all time p4p

[PaddyD1983]

I'm 25 and have him at #7 on my all time HW list

[Robbi]

I'm 31 years old. Just outside the top 10.

[Mendoza]

Mid 30's for me. I rate Tyson around #10-13 on an all time heavyweight ranking list. There are no cream puffs on ATG lists.

Tyson might be the #1 guy vs tier two opponents. Tyson could blow out journeyman, and fringe contenders as well as anyone I have seen.

My trouble with Tyson is he was never a mentally tough fighter and lost his biggest legacy fights badly. Some say the prison time took away from Tyson. While there is some truth to this, I have also seen Tyson look good post prision, and struggle a bit pre Buster Douglas.

[Nick Balsamo]

I'm 27 and I rank Tyson somewhere between 8 and 12.

He's the best ever against average contenders. He absolutely destroyed them.

[marciano1952]

i was never old enough to see tyson live i am 15 now but after extencily watching his fights i put top five all time heavyweights and top 10 all time p4p

that will deffently Change man when you lean more about his opponents in the 80's and so fourth

I thank when i was 15 I ranked Jim Corbett in my top 5 HW LOL

[pugilist_boyd]

5-10 of all time in his very short prime,if cus d. could have lived 2-3 more years he would have had a longer prime prob. would be in alot more peoples top 10s----and im 30

[Maxmomer]

I think it's great that there are so many quality posters that are young. Who says boxing's fanbase is made up of mostly people in their 40's or 50's?

I used to be a teenager. Does that count?

[papke26]

1. Jack Dempsey
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Gearge Foreman
6. .Joe Louis
7. Lennox Lewis
8.MIKE TYSON
9. Wladimir Klitchko
10.Gene Tunney.

So i would rank him 8.

[FromWithin]

I'm 19 and I do not rank him in the top 10. I don't understand how people can rank him above Holyfield? WTF?

[marciano1952]

I'm 19 and I do not rank him in the top 10. I don't understand how people can rank him above Holyfield? WTF?

I agree I dont thank he ever beat anyone on the same level Holyfield did and lost when he did face that comp

most the guys he fought in the 80's seemed to be B+ at best other then Spinks who was just a Blown up light Heavy and Holmes who hadnt fought in 4 years

[Arka]

Holmes who hadnt fought in 4 years
Close.It was actually 20 months.Only 2 years and 4 months out.:D


I don't understand how people can rank him above Holyfield? WTF?
It all looked so promising.If only he hadn't been assassinated at the hands of Ruth Roper,on Barbara Walter's couch in 1989. :think
Who can forget that enigmatic smile ,that flickered across his lips as the .44 bullets perforated his pectoralis major muscles???? :-(
Mike Tyson (1966-1989) RIP :bbb

[fists of fury]

It seems Tyson will never get an ounce of credit from some quarters.

[Maxmomer]

He's somewhere in my top 100 heavyweights. Anywhere from 15 to ... 17.

[Drew101]

39 years of age...And I have Tyson slotted into the #10 slot, currently.

[liger05]

26 and Tyson doesn't make my top 10

[Bokaj]

1. Jack Dempsey
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Gearge Foreman
6. .Joe Louis
7. Lennox Lewis
8.MIKE TYSON
9. Wladimir Klitchko
10.Gene Tunney.

So i would rank him 8.

I just have to ask... Louis at nr. 6?

[Ezzard]

He's the best ever against average contenders. He absolutely destroyed them.

Nick, that is it in a nut shell. He crushed guys or he lost. And that's why so many people hark on and on about his mythical prime. People watched in awe as he dismantled contenders and then refused to believe it when he lost.

[Arka]

Nick, that is it in a nut shell. He crushed guys or he lost. And that's why so many people hark on and on about his mythical prime. People watched in awe as he dismantled contenders and then refused to believe it when he lost.

Well...Yes,it's the combination of two things-him punching technique and how few punches he took in his fights ,at least upto '88.

[Ezzard]

Well...Yes,it's the combination of two things-him punching technique and how few punches he took in his fights ,at least upto '88.

And how when he didn't get things his own way he capitulated.

[ljj]

Tyson top 10 age 45