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CASH_718
08-06-2007, 03:13 AM
For all the people whinning about the first round of Morales vs Diaz being 10-9 it was!!!!!:deal

For the whole round Diaz was in control and right before Diaz got dropped he rocked Morales back and had him against the ropes and Morales just started winging shots and caught Diaz.

It was right to be called 10-9. Could have been 10-8 but I think 10-9 is right.

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Circa
08-06-2007, 03:14 AM
i agree... diaz is winning that round until morales knock him down.

CASH_718
08-06-2007, 03:17 AM
i agree... diaz is winning that round until the morales knock him down.Well winning a round is one thing, but winning a round HUGE before getting dropped is another.

PH|LLA
08-06-2007, 03:23 AM
10-9 is fair could've even been 9-9

however i scored it 10-8 morales

10-8 diaz in the 2nd round is pure bullshit

mexwarrior
08-06-2007, 03:25 AM
Diaz was more active the agressor but questionable he threw alot but did'nt seem to land all that much, I saw 2 nice hard clean punches but other than that a bunch of nothing and what about round 2 when one judge gave a 10-8 round for Diaz?

PATSYS
08-06-2007, 03:26 AM
I scored it 10-8 for Morales.

Jbuz
08-06-2007, 03:28 AM
As if it was 10-9. Diaz was winning the round, but no way was it going to be a 10-8. Morales took it 10-8, no ifs buts or maybes.

CASH_718
08-06-2007, 03:29 AM
As if it was 10-9. Diaz was winning the round, but no way was it going to be a 10-8. Morales took it 10-8, no ifs buts or maybes.

Stupid way to look at it.

theunderdog
08-06-2007, 03:30 AM
10-9 is fair could've even been 9-9

however i scored it 10-8 morales

10-8 diaz in the 2nd round is pure bullshit

exactly!!!!

CASH_718
08-06-2007, 03:30 AM
10-9 is fair could've even been 9-9

however i scored it 10-8 morales

10-8 diaz in the 2nd round is pure bullshitThat I don't under stand.

CASH_718
08-06-2007, 03:32 AM
Actually I'm wrong it should have been a 9-9 round.

Diaz was winning handly even rocking Morales but Morales scored the KD to take a point away from Diaz.

Diaz wins the round but loses a point for the KD 9-9.

theunderdog
08-06-2007, 03:36 AM
Actually I'm wrong it should have been a 9-9 round.

Diaz was winning handly even rocking Morales but Morales scored the KD to take a point away from Diaz.

Diaz wins the round but loses a point for the KD 9-9.

you could make an arguement for a 10-9 round but 9-9 is pushing it. i think 9-9 would have been proper if it was a flash kd which it was not.

valdosta
08-06-2007, 04:35 AM
There's no such thing as a 9-9 round.

reed_man02
08-06-2007, 04:50 AM
you could make an arguement for a 10-9 round but 9-9 is pushing it. i think 9-9 would have been proper if it was a flash kd which it was not.

I agree, diaz was winning big but morales had some shots and the kd which would make it 10-9. As a morales though, I couldnt watch the fight as the thought of Morales becoming the first 4 weight division mexican champ like he tried, didnt sit well with me.

Scar
08-06-2007, 06:13 AM
That round was 10-9, I agree.

psychopath
08-06-2007, 06:40 AM
Actually I'm wrong it should have been a 9-9 round.

Diaz was winning handly even rocking Morales but Morales scored the KD to take a point away from Diaz.

Diaz wins the round but loses a point for the KD 9-9.

That's right it should be 9-9. 10-9 for Diaz without the KD.

Piffer
08-06-2007, 09:03 AM
Then the round should have been scored 9-9, not 10-9.

Morales loses a point for losing the round.
Diaz loses a point for getting KD.

boxbox
08-06-2007, 09:05 AM
10point must system?

David B
08-06-2007, 09:44 AM
Diaz wins the round=10-9 Diaz
Morales knocks Diaz down=Diaz loses a point

For me this is a 9-9 round.

Cookie
08-06-2007, 10:08 AM
There is no way that round could have been scored 9-9. To suggest that is just complete ignorance to the rules.

aliwasthegreatest
08-06-2007, 10:39 AM
reminds me sooooooooo much of ali vs berbick for some reason

PolishPummler
08-06-2007, 11:44 AM
Same situation as with Adamek vs Briggs 2.

CASH_718
08-06-2007, 11:47 AM
Actually I'm wrong it should have been a 9-9 round.

Diaz was winning handly even rocking Morales but Morales scored the KD to take a point away from Diaz.

Diaz wins the round but loses a point for the KD 9-9.Pay no antennion to this post I'm losing my mind.

10-9 Morales.

PH|LLA
08-06-2007, 12:17 PM
10-9 Morales means you score the round a draw but have Diaz losing a point for the KD

9-9 means you have Diaz winning the round but losing a point for the KD

I did some reading on the 10 point must system yesterday and thats how i understood it.

Stewbear
08-06-2007, 12:23 PM
It is a 10-8 round no question.

jecxbox
08-06-2007, 12:26 PM
The fight over all was a robbery. Along with these questionable and ridiculous decisions that were made in the fight. Ineffective aggression was what Diaz was doing and getting counter punched by clean combinations by Morales - way to ruin the end of a legends legacy like this. Faggots.

Cookie
08-06-2007, 01:23 PM
10-9 Morales means you score the round a draw but have Diaz losing a point for the KD

9-9 means you have Diaz winning the round but losing a point for the KD

I did some reading on the 10 point must system yesterday and thats how i understood it.

9-9 is just not an option here. Diaz was winning the round, but then he lost it because he was knocked down. Flooring your opponent is significant.

Piffer
08-06-2007, 01:35 PM
It's quite simple: by the 10 point must system, if you think Diaz won the round, then the correct scoring would be 9-9.

Piffer
08-06-2007, 01:37 PM
That round was 10-9, I agree.

You agree, but you also are incapable of thinking for yourself.

JERMZ BOXING
08-06-2007, 02:35 PM
Actually I'm wrong it should have been a 9-9 round.

Diaz was winning handly even rocking Morales but Morales scored the KD to take a point away from Diaz.

Diaz wins the round but loses a point for the KD 9-9.

but if diaz lost a point for getting decked, shouldnt that mean that morales should get a point for at least causing that nice kd... so 10-9 was legit... i dont understand why this thread is still going on...

Jens S
08-06-2007, 03:32 PM
If a fighter is winning a round it is generally 10-9. If he scores a knockdown, he wins it 10-8. But if he suffers a knockdown, he loses the round 10-9.

Does that mean, that a knockdown is not one point? Yes, it does. Sometimes a knockdown is worth two points. It is a stupid rule, but that is how the 10-point must system works. So if you had Diaz winning the first round, then because of the knockdown, it should be scored 10-9 Morales. If you had Morales winning the round, then it should be scored 10-8 Morales.

Jens

PJ
08-06-2007, 03:37 PM
Robbery is what it is...

El Bombasto
08-06-2007, 03:39 PM
10-9 Morales is the correct score for round 1

Beebs
08-06-2007, 04:43 PM
10 point must system


From the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation

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b) In scoring a contest the elements of offense, defense, clean hitting, ring generalship, and sportsmanship shall be carefully considered by the judges. Scoring shall be by the ten-point must system. The winner of any round is marked ten and the loser is marked nine or less. When a round is even, each contestant shall receive ten points. A clean knock-down shall be scored heavily. Judges shall deduct points for fouls when directed to do so by the referee. Judges shall clearly write their decision and sign them individually. A draw shall be called if each official votes differently or any two vote a draw.


It is absolutely either a 10-9 or 10-8 round, you cannot, at all, ever, under any circumstance, have a 9-9 round without a penalty point being taken away in the state of Texas or any other state that I am aware of, fucking end of discussion.

I had it 10-8, as Diaz was ahead before the KD, but not that significantly.

chliJs
08-07-2007, 07:08 AM
i'm still confused about a couple of things...

1) how does 10 point MUST work when there are several kd's from both sides. like foreman vs lyle round 3.
2) there's written "when a round is even, each ten points".. i always thought there is no such thing as even rounds in 10 point must. have i always been wrong?

Jens S
08-07-2007, 08:32 AM
There is even rounds in the 10-points must system, 10-10. They are more usual in Europe than in the US, but is seen all over the world. Many judges try to avoid them. They see it as an easy escape, when they are in doubt, and don't want to go down that route.

Jens