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Da_Hurricane_Briggs
11-09-2008, 02:56 AM
I know he was fairly adamant in the lead up that this would be the last fight ..but we all know in boxing that retirements dont exactly mean a hell of alot .

Look at Mayweather ..he supposedly retired 7 or 8times , Kosta Tzsyu has still not "officially" called it quits ( although he aints gonna come back) , Danny Green is still considering a comeback and heck John Farnham has retired 10+ times...

Considering a lucarative fight with Hopkins , or perhaps Tarver , Pavlich or Dawson and reportadly a 5 million offer to fight Froch in an all british clash ...also the fact he is 46-0 ...not far from the magical fifty ...some big victories on his way out could silence all the doubters and bring a hell of alot more big names to his legacy ...

teke
11-09-2008, 02:57 AM
I dont care if he retires or not but if he says Froch is the very last fight for big bucks i will say "you cheeky brat" in my own way :lol::lol::lol:

T.C.W
11-09-2008, 03:00 AM
yeah I think he will, he is no spring chicken, I think he has not looked as good as he did against kessler.

Da_Hurricane_Briggs
11-09-2008, 03:04 AM
yeh definetly hasnt looked as polished against Hopkins and Jones ...being knocked down by both , id agree with that ..

but Jones has been on the decline for sometime so its depends whether he wants some more big paydays ..coz they will be there

daz52
11-09-2008, 03:16 AM
I dont think Tarver is a big money fight now to be honest... Froch would represent some $$$ in the UK but personally id love to see him fight Chad Dawson...

roscoe
11-09-2008, 03:37 AM
I don't think Joe needs to prove anything & if he wants to retire I respect this. How many fighters does he simply take apart without looking totally dominant. He gets KD but gets up & outworks his opponents. You can only fight how your opponent allows you. I don't care who whinges, JC beat hopkins who totally dominated a good young fighter in Pavlik. But he certainly didn't fight like that against Joe. Why? Simply Joe never allowed it. Yes they knocked him down but they never looked like doing it again. He outworked lacy, kessler and every other fighter he has come up against. Give the man his dues, he's a great undefeated champion, even if he seems very beatable, he finds the answer to everyone's style. Thats impressive.

ashley
11-09-2008, 03:41 AM
I don't think Joe needs to prove anything & if he wants to retire I respect this. How many fighters does he simply take apart without looking totally dominant. He gets KD but gets up & outworks his opponents. You can only fight how your opponent allows you. I don't care who whinges, JC beat hopkins who totally dominated a good young fighter in Pavlik. But he certainly didn't fight like that against Joe. Why? Simply Joe never allowed it. Yes they knocked him down but they never looked like doing it again. He outworked lacy, kessler and every other fighter he has come up against. Give the man his dues, he's a great undefeated champion, even if he seems very beatable, he finds the answer to everyone's style. Thats impressive.

Got to agree with this :good

lefty
11-09-2008, 04:31 AM
I was never interested in seeing the Dawson fight before but i'd like to see it now. I believe Dawson could stop him.

Rise Above
11-09-2008, 04:33 AM
I think he might take one more fight, money is going to be a hard thing to say no to.

ashley
11-09-2008, 04:34 AM
I was never interested in seeing the Dawson fight before but i'd like to see it now. I believe Dawson could stop him.

It would be a great fight....what do you think Dawson has that Joe wont be able to overcome?

greenghost
11-09-2008, 04:47 AM
I think Joe would beat anybody else out there. So he could go for his 50-0, retire or take on Dawson. I think dawson will be easy for him.

lefty
11-09-2008, 06:56 AM
It would be a great fight....what do you think Dawson has that Joe wont be able to overcome?

The Jab would be Joes main problem, he hasn't had a bigger southpaw with a jab like Chads before, he would really struggle getting close enough and when he does get close enough he'll be dealing with lightning combinations coming from angles he's not used to because of Chad being a southpaw aswell.
Roy caught Joe quite easily tonight when he threw quick shots, the difference with Dawson is that he'll throw 3,4 quick shots instead of Roys 1 and done.
I overrated Joes power, he really can't punch. If Roy stuck to his own rhythm instead of trying to keep with Joes then it would of been a different fight. Dawson is relaxed in the ring and doesn't fall for feints he would ignore Calzaghes posturing, fight to his own rhythm and land good combinations. Dawson looked very physically strong against Tarver and he could possibly bully Joe around in there i think.

shanemfr
11-09-2008, 07:44 AM
I don't think Joe needs to prove anything & if he wants to retire I respect this. How many fighters does he simply take apart without looking totally dominant. He gets KD but gets up & outworks his opponents. You can only fight how your opponent allows you. I don't care who whinges, JC beat hopkins who totally dominated a good young fighter in Pavlik. But he certainly didn't fight like that against Joe. Why? Simply Joe never allowed it. Yes they knocked him down but they never looked like doing it again. He outworked lacy, kessler and every other fighter he has come up against. Give the man his dues, he's a great undefeated champion, even if he seems very beatable, he finds the answer to everyone's style. Thats impressive.
Another cunt with no paragraphs ffs

waynesmale
11-09-2008, 09:35 AM
Hopkins should get his rematch I personally believe he won seeing how he scored a knockdown and Joe also lost a point and yet somehow the scores had Joe winning which I can understand but personally BHOP won that fight to me and I am no Hopkins fan either so No bias here.

Also After the amazing fight he did taking apart Kelly Pavlik which was the best Hopkins has looked in YEARS I have no doubt he would have not only won but won EASY if he took that gameplan into a Calzaghe fight. His counter punching on Pavlik was next to perfect and I doubt Joe has the chin to last if Bhop got going with those types of shots

A rematch in England has a nice ring to it for Joe and Hop, Good money and give his English fans a send off IF he can do so. Won't happy but it should

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 10:21 AM
The Jab would be Joes main problem, he hasn't had a bigger southpaw with a jab like Chads before, he would really struggle getting close enough and when he does get close enough he'll be dealing with lightning combinations coming from angles he's not used to because of Chad being a southpaw aswell.
Roy caught Joe quite easily tonight when he threw quick shots, the difference with Dawson is that he'll throw 3,4 quick shots instead of Roys 1 and done.
I overrated Joes power, he really can't punch. If Roy stuck to his own rhythm instead of trying to keep with Joes then it would of been a different fight. Dawson is relaxed in the ring and doesn't fall for feints he would ignore Calzaghes posturing, fight to his own rhythm and land good combinations. Dawson looked very physically strong against Tarver and he could possibly bully Joe around in there i think. Mate a lot of blokes like you are screaming for the Dawson fight for one reason alone , the reason being your desperate to see Calzaghe beaten by any means , Joe would beat the shit out "Fad" Chad Dawson just as he has EVERYONE that has had the balls to get in there with him . i can just imagine the claims after Joe takes another Yank to school , WHO WAS FAD DAWSON ? oh he was just Hype , Simple fact is JOE has beaten all .....That is all ...

teke
11-09-2008, 10:52 AM
Mate a lot of blokes like you are screaming for the Dawson fight for one reason alone , the reason being your desperate to see Calzaghe beaten by any means , Joe would beat the shit out "Fad" Chad Dawson just as he has EVERYONE that has had the balls to get in there with him . i can just imagine the claims after Joe takes another Yank to school , WHO WAS FAD DAWSON ? oh he was just Hype , Simple fact is JOE has beaten all .....That is all ...Chads a pretty decent fighter, he's the only one out there that Joe should face if he doesnt retire.

I can see him fighting Froch now :lol::lol::lol:

THN
11-09-2008, 11:20 AM
He should give Kessler a new fight

teke
11-09-2008, 11:22 AM
He should give Kessler a new fightHe should and same with Nard but he wont.

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 12:39 PM
Kessler & Hopkins ? Please he has beaten BOTH and needs to retire now , Hopkins will always find another fight to massage his ego , Kessler needs to concentrate on cleaning out HIS era of 168lb fighters instead of chasing blokes that have beaten him into retirement . we heared all the stories about what each fighter was going to do to Joe Calzaghe once they got him in a ring but it never happened as Calzageh proved he was a cut above each of them when push came to shove ..

oztriker
11-09-2008, 12:59 PM
Kessler & Hopkins ? Please he has beaten BOTH and needs to retire now , Hopkins will always find another fight to massage his ego , Kessler needs to concentrate on cleaning out HIS era of 168lb fighters instead of chasing blokes that have beaten him into retirement . we heared all the stories about what each fighter was going to do to Joe Calzaghe once they got him in a ring but it never happened as Calzageh proved he was a cut above each of them when push came to shove ..

Exactly....... But the excuses are always forthcoming after he beats them:patsch

Primadonna Kool
11-09-2008, 01:53 PM
Too little to late for Joe Calzaghe.

I don't think he will ever be mentioned in the same terms as Sugar Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler and still even Roy Jones Junior. Personally i don't think he is going to retire, and i do think he will be beaten.

Anyone who is anyone in boxing knows Roy Jones has been shot since 2004, performances do not lie. I realised this and started to think logically leading up to this fight, Roy Jones wanted to go out like a warrior on his shield. Just like Sugar Ray Leonard, a sick Muhammad Ali against Larry Holmes and so on. Just like a soldier on the battle field...........

Joe Calzaghe is a great fighter but there will always be something missing to his legacy,and this fight was not a legacy fight..it was a money fight and well deserved for Joe Calzaghe.

first post ever in the Aussie forum...

the beaver
11-09-2008, 07:00 PM
Joe is the best fighter out there at the moment and that's a fact.

Their will alwaays be the Chad Dawsons and Carl Frochs claiming he is avoiding them etc.

Joe should retire, he has nothing left too prove.

If by some chance he wants one more payday maybe (If Froch keeps winning) an all British fightin about with the overrated Nottingham bum will provide an easy payday with little risk.

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Beave , Can you belive that Froch fella ? he is still calling L/Heavyweight Joe Calzaghe back down to 168lbs when he hasn't even won a title yet LMFAO ive got more chance of getting Joe in a ring than Frochy lol ..

waynesmale
11-09-2008, 07:11 PM
BHOP still beat him, Many agree and many don't but Bhop in my eyes still beat Joe and it's as simple as that Plus everyone says he never lost and people who have followed his career know he has had 1 or 2 iffy wins that were very very close.

the beaver
11-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Beave , Can you belive that Froch fella ? he is still calling L/Heavyweight Joe Calzaghe back down to 168lbs when he hasn't even won a title yet LMFAO ive got more chance of getting Joe in a ring than Frochy lol ..

:D Yeah lets see how "The Fraud" goes against Pascal.

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 07:15 PM
:D Yeah lets see how "The Fraud" goes against Pascal. I don't really like this Froch fella but seeing as he is a Brit fighting a haitian by way of Canada i will still be roaring him on , Ive followed Pascal for about 4 years now and if Jean showboats ala Prime Roy (as he is sometimes known to do ) then Froch will KHTFO imo ..

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 07:18 PM
BHOP still beat him, Many agree and many don't but Bhop in my eyes still beat Joe and it's as simple as that Plus everyone says he never lost and people who have followed his career know he has had 1 or 2 iffy wins that were very very close. Oh here we go again another American follower of fashion , Bullshit Joe Beat Bernard Hopkins :deal and as regarding his "Iffy Wins" i take it you mean The Runcorn Robin fight ? well yes it was close but Calzaghe cruised it in the end mate :deal who else was teh other "Iffy win" ? Wayne .

pecks
11-09-2008, 07:25 PM
Oh here we go again another American follower of fashion , Bullshit Joe Beat Bernard Hopkins :deal and as regarding his "Iffy Wins" i take it you mean The Runcorn Robin fight ? well yes it was close but Calzaghe cruised it in the end mate :deal who else was teh other "Iffy win" ? Wayne .I had Joe winning by 4 or so rounds against Hop. I was very surprised when the first judge scored it to Hopkins.

Very clear win for me, and he'd win even clearer in a rematch.

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 07:36 PM
I had Joe winning by 4 or so rounds against Hop. I was very surprised when the first judge scored it to Hopkins.

Very clear win for me, and he'd win even clearer in a rematch. Thing is Pecks Joe has always been wide open for that sneaky sharpe right and Jones knew this as well last night Hence the semi Knockdown , all Joe will have to do next fight is keep his eye open for it and then after the inital two round war take Bernard to school infront of me and 69,999 of my mates in Cardiff , it gave me no pleasure seeing a decent ATG like Roy swallowing his can of Whooppass last night but Hopkins getting his would be a different proposition all together ...

Sox
11-09-2008, 07:56 PM
Joe is pretty fuggin good, he looked very sharp yesterday, IMO.
He looked better with Roy than he did with Hopkins.

I don't think he needs to retire, he still has plenty left. OTOH, he could easily retire and be known as pretty special.

I reckon if he does hang about for 1 or 2 more fights, I would like to see a Kessler rematch. Mainly because I think Kessler is the only one who has the potential to win.

I'd probably still put my money on Joe though.... :nut

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 08:04 PM
Style wise i would love to see kessler v Dawson , Chad throws solid shots but then stops and does nothing for a split second before he regroups , if a tosser like me can see ths chi nk in his armour then a decent counter puncher like Kessler would exploit this weakness with deverstating effect , i realise Kess needs to clean house @ 168lbs first but its one to put on the back burner ..

lefty
11-09-2008, 08:54 PM
Mate a lot of blokes like you are screaming for the Dawson fight for one reason alone , the reason being your desperate to see Calzaghe beaten by any means , Joe would beat the shit out "Fad" Chad Dawson just as he has EVERYONE that has had the balls to get in there with him . i can just imagine the claims after Joe takes another Yank to school , WHO WAS FAD DAWSON ? oh he was just Hype , Simple fact is JOE has beaten all .....That is all ...

Dawson a 'fad'? The guy is young and still learning his boxing game yet he's still beaten Harding, Adamek, Tarver and Johnson, he's past the prospect stage (everyone seems to talk about him like he is unproven and a guy who is coming up) and anyone who has seen him fight knows he has serious skills and physical advantages over nearly everyone. I'm a Calzaghe fan, i bought his book and i have his whole career on DVD but Dawson is unlike anyone Joe has ever faced, Calzaghe would get beaten up no doubt in my mind.

lefty
11-09-2008, 08:58 PM
Style wise i would love to see kessler v Dawson , Chad throws solid shots but then stops and does nothing for a split second before he regroups , if a tosser like me can see ths chi nk in his armour then a decent counter puncher like Kessler would exploit this weakness with deverstating effect , i realise Kess needs to clean house @ 168lbs first but its one to put on the back burner ..

He did that against Johnson but against Tarver he was always slipping and moving. Kessler is one dimensional and fights in straight lines, he's overrated as a puncher aswell. It'd go the same way as the Adamek fight

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 09:06 PM
Dawson a 'fad'? The guy is young and still learning his boxing game yet he's still beaten Harding, Adamek, Tarver and Johnson, he's past the prospect stage (everyone seems to talk about him like he is unproven and a guy who is coming up) and anyone who has seen him fight knows he has serious skills and physical advantages over nearly everyone. I'm a Calzaghe fan, i bought his book and i have his whole career on DVD but Dawson is unlike anyone Joe has ever faced, Calzaghe would get beaten up no doubt in my mind. Harding ? Adamek was struggling with his weight and moved north next fight as proof of this , Johnson is as game as they come but as skilled a fighter as a cow on an frozen pond , and please don't mention a forty year old shot Antonio Tarver . Dawson hasn't earned the right to get into the Mega Money Circle yet and should be trying to clean out the division of youngsters instead of fighting a 37 year old Joe Calzaghe .now don't get me wrong here i like Dawson but he takes naps in his fights and i would hate Joe to ruin another fighter from the generation below , Who are we going to watch after Joe retires , LACY ? no ruined by Joe , Pavlik ? no schooled by Hopkins but will return , we are running out of top newcomers because they are being rushed in and ruined by the older guys , years ago you had to serve an apprentiship , there was a reason for for this ...:deal

JOSEY WALES
11-09-2008, 09:09 PM
He did that against Johnson but against Tarver he was always slipping and moving. Kessler is one dimensional and fights in straight lines, he's overrated as a puncher aswell. It'd go the same way as the Adamek fight exactly , Fighting in straight lines would work v Someone like Chad Dawson . Underated Puncher is Kessler , if Calzaghe's beared wasnt what it is he would have Joe out of there before round 4 imo ...

lefty
11-09-2008, 09:27 PM
Harding ? Adamek was struggling with his weight and moved north next fight as proof of this , Johnson is as game as they come but as skilled a fighter as a cow on an frozen pond , and please don't mention a forty year old shot Antonio Tarver . Dawson hasn't earned the right to get into the Mega Money Circle yet and should be trying to clean out the division of youngsters instead of fighting a 37 year old Joe Calzaghe .now don't get me wrong here i like Dawson but he takes naps in his fights and i would hate Joe to ruin another fighter from the generation below , Who are we going to watch after Joe retires , LACY ? no ruined by Joe , Pavlik ? no schooled by Hopkins but will return , we are running out of top newcomers because they are being rushed in and ruined by the older guys , years ago you had to serve an apprentiship , there was a reason for for this ...:deal

Are you for real? Dawson hasn't served his apprenticeship? Who do you suggest he fights? You wanna take the negative road about opponents let's take a look at Calzaghes defining fights...... Eubank old and past it, Lacy a 5'9 muscled up hype machine that really struggled in fights before and after Calzaghe, Kessler hadn't beaten anyone (his list is far less impressive than Dawsons), fights in straight lines, isn't adaptable, fought with an injured hand, Hopkins came out of his rocking chair to drop Calzaghe in the first and lose a disputable split decision, Jones only 40 years old and shot to fucking pieces (Compared to Tarver coming off a dominant win against a light heavy champ and still with plenty of stamina as evidenced in the Dawson fight) coming off a thrilling 8-4 victory over a fat retired welterweight :roll: hurts Calzaghe then does fuck all for the rest of the fight because his legs are gone (i was really shocked that Calzaghe couldn't stop Jones).

But really i give Calzaghe credit, i give Dawson credit. If they fight styles make fights and Calzaghe gets torn up.

Dawson appears to take naps in fights because he is so relaxed and unconcerned about his opponents. He didn't do it against Tarver though so maybe he respected his power more, i don't know.

You cannot compare Dawson to guys like Pavlik and Lacy, if you know the sweet science then you know Dawson is in another dimension compared to these one dimensional opponents who hadn't really fought anyone before they got beaten.

lefty
11-09-2008, 09:31 PM
exactly , Fighting in straight lines would work v Someone like Chad Dawson . Underated Puncher is Kessler , if Calzaghe's beared wasnt what it is he would have Joe out of there before round 4 imo ...

How's that, like Adamek fighting in straight lines worked against someone like Chad Dawson?

the beaver
11-09-2008, 09:34 PM
Are you for real? Dawson hasn't served his apprenticeship? Who do you suggest he fights? You wanna take the negative road about opponents let's take a look at Calzaghes defining fights...... Eubank old and past it, Lacy a 5'9 muscled up hype machine that really struggled in fights before and after Calzaghe, Kessler hadn't beaten anyone (his list is far less impressive than Dawsons), fights in straight lines, isn't adaptable, fought with an injured hand, Hopkins came out of his rocking chair to drop Calzaghe in the first and lose a disputable split decision, Jones only 40 years old and shot to fucking pieces (Compared to Tarver coming off a dominant win against a light heavy champ and still with plenty of stamina as evidenced in the Dawson fight) coming off a thrilling 8-4 victory over a fat retired welterweight :roll: hurts Calzaghe then does fuck all for the rest of the fight because his legs are gone (i was really shocked that Calzaghe couldn't stop Jones).

But really i give Calzaghe credit, i give Dawson credit. If they fight styles make fights and Calzaghe gets torn up.

Dawson appears to take naps in fights because he is so relaxed and unconcerned about his opponents. He didn't do it against Tarver though so maybe he respected his power more, i don't know.

You cannot compare Dawson to guys like Pavlik and Lacy, if you know the sweet science then you know Dawson is in another dimension compared to these one dimensional opponents who hadn't really fought anyone before they got beaten.

Not sure if i agree with any of this :think

lefty
11-09-2008, 10:07 PM
Not sure if i agree with any of this :think

Not sure if i care...:think

teke
11-09-2008, 10:10 PM
Are you for real? Dawson hasn't served his apprenticeship? Who do you suggest he fights? You wanna take the negative road about opponents let's take a look at Calzaghes defining fights...... Eubank old and past it, Lacy a 5'9 muscled up hype machine that really struggled in fights before and after Calzaghe, Kessler hadn't beaten anyone (his list is far less impressive than Dawsons), fights in straight lines, isn't adaptable, fought with an injured hand, Hopkins came out of his rocking chair to drop Calzaghe in the first and lose a disputable split decision, Jones only 40 years old and shot to fucking pieces (Compared to Tarver coming off a dominant win against a light heavy champ and still with plenty of stamina as evidenced in the Dawson fight) coming off a thrilling 8-4 victory over a fat retired welterweight :roll: hurts Calzaghe then does fuck all for the rest of the fight because his legs are gone (i was really shocked that Calzaghe couldn't stop Jones).

But really i give Calzaghe credit, i give Dawson credit. If they fight styles make fights and Calzaghe gets torn up.

Dawson appears to take naps in fights because he is so relaxed and unconcerned about his opponents. He didn't do it against Tarver though so maybe he respected his power more, i don't know.

You cannot compare Dawson to guys like Pavlik and Lacy, if you know the sweet science then you know Dawson is in another dimension compared to these one dimensional opponents who hadn't really fought anyone before they got beaten.I agree with all of this, if ppl want to take the negative road against Dawson when looking at this young fellas competition then its a good comeback on Joes.

pecks
11-09-2008, 11:33 PM
Dawson has some fantastic tools, but theres still a few things there that don't give me complete confidence in him.

If you were to pick a winner going by seeing highlight reels of the two, then Dawson would win hands down, but of course theres more to it than that, and Calzaghe is the right guy to expolit the *****s he might have in hi9s armour. Though despite Dawson's suspect chin, I don't think Calzaghe can stop him.

The fight wont happen though, and there should be no blame left on Joe for that because Dawson is still a green name, and Calzaghe is on his way out.

Dawson V Kessler is a much more mouth watering fight we can look forward to in the future, and who knows...depending on how things turn out, we may get to see a trilogy between them.

pecks
11-09-2008, 11:35 PM
Lol, it looks as though c h i n k s has been censored here too.

dufaine
11-10-2008, 04:52 AM
he (Calzaghe) should have fought RJjr about 5 years ago. RJ'jr would have kicked his ass!

Peterp
11-10-2008, 05:14 AM
The Americans are clammering for Joe to fight Dawson saying that he still hasn't proved anything beating up old men (Hopkins and Roy), Eurobums with padded records (Kessler) and hypejobs (Lacy)

To me the Kessler win made me a believer

I don't think Joe is the best of his era or anything like that, but he's a damm excellent fighter and well underrated

Peterp
11-10-2008, 05:15 AM
Prime for Prime, Joe still would have given RJJ everything he could handle. Roy might have won, but it wouldn't have been the slaughter everyone thinks it would have been

lefty
11-10-2008, 05:18 AM
Prime for Prime, Joe still would have given RJJ everything he could handle. Roy might have won, but it wouldn't have been the slaughter everyone thinks it would have been

I would've felt the same before the weekends fight but not anymore, i think prime Roy could get him out of there in 3-4 rounds, prime Roy had footwork and much better accuracy than he displayed against Calzaghe.

JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 06:04 AM
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JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 06:16 AM
Plenty of Buillshit there Lefty , I figure you may have a motive not to give Calzaghe props , Normally in this case the guy slating him is either a fan of another fighter he has beaten or its sadly a racial thing , saying Calzaghe would get Ko'd in 3 rounds prime for prime is utter bollocks and you know it , are you by any chance a Mundine fan ? oh fuck me your not Gavin Stone are you ?

lefty
11-10-2008, 06:37 AM
Plenty of Buillshit there Lefty , I figure you may have a motive not to give Calzaghe props , Normally in this case the guy slating him is either a fan of another fighter he has beaten or its sadly a racial thing , saying Calzaghe would get Ko'd in 3 rounds prime for prime is utter bollocks and you know it , are you by any chance a Mundine fan ? oh fuck me your not Gavin Stone are you ?

I give Calzaghe all the props in the world, i'm a fan. All i'm saying is based on what this shot to shit version of Roy was able to do to him i think prime Roy gets him out of there. If you go back through my posts you'll see that i think Roy has always been overrated aswell so there is no motive here.
I was going to put a relatively large amount of money on Calzaghe to stop him on the weekend, thankfully i didn't go through with it. I don't know if i'm really a fan of Mundines or not, i'm abit indifferent at the moment, when he fights someone with a pulse i'll be cheering him on though. And no i won't fuck you and no my name is not Gavin Stone.

JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 06:57 AM
I give Calzaghe all the props in the world, i'm a fan. All i'm saying is based on what this shot to shit version of Roy was able to do to him i think prime Roy gets him out of there. If you go back through my posts you'll see that i think Roy has always been overrated aswell so there is no motive here.
I was going to put a relatively large amount of money on Calzaghe to stop him on the weekend, thankfully i didn't go through with it. I don't know if i'm really a fan of Mundines or not, i'm abit indifferent at the moment, when he fights someone with a pulse i'll be cheering him on though. And no i won't fuck you and no my name is not Gavin Stone. I think Roy would have eventually had his way and stoped Joe late 7 years ago , i know im a bonifie Calzaghe hugger but i do live in the real world , this fight with Jones was un******ted as it does nothing for his legecy imo well not as much as the Hopkins win anyway . I know Calzaghe should have fought in America years ago but that wasnt his fault as Hopkins ducked him as did Pavlik , Winky And Taylor so Joe going late aint really his fault at all , legecy wise Joe Calzaghe has fought and beaten everyone put infornt of him and that would go for Dawson as well imho , P sorry for the Gav insult , it was un called for not matter how much you wind me up , no one deserves that :good

JoeAverage
11-10-2008, 07:08 AM
He has said he would stop for 6 years now.

Im sure he will fight 2-4 years more.

dufaine
11-10-2008, 08:24 AM
Honestly Mundine would put up a better fight than RJ'jr did on wkend!

dufaine
11-10-2008, 08:25 AM
get Cazalghe Down under, if the Mundine camp can afford to pay him?

teke
11-10-2008, 09:18 AM
P sorry for the Gav insult , it was un called for not matter how much you wind me up , no one deserves that :good:lol:

JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 10:16 AM
get Cazalghe Down under, if the Mundine camp can afford to pay him? Seriously ,Why would the undisputed S/Middle weight Champion and RING MAG L/Heavy weight champion go down under to fight a Middle weight with no balls ?

teke
11-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Seriously ,Why would the undisputed S/Middle weight Champion and RING MAG L/Heavy weight champion go down under to fight a Middle weight with no balls ?Sounds like a perfect Joe opponent to me

JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 11:29 AM
Sounds like a perfect Joe opponent to me :lol: AND STILL UNDEFEATED ,,, SUPER JOE CALZAGHE :happy :happy :happy

teke
11-10-2008, 11:36 AM
:lol: AND STILL UNDEFEATED ,,, SUPER JOE CALZAGHE :happy :happy :happy:lol::lol:

JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 11:54 AM
:deal :lol::lol: Serious Teke old son i want Calzaghe to fight Dawson ( Change of heart today after actually reviewing fads recent fights ), i think he is tailor made for Joe .:deal

teke
11-10-2008, 12:15 PM
:deal Serious Teke old son i want Calzaghe to fight Dawson ( Change of heart today after actually reviewing fads recent fights ), i think he is tailor made for Joe .:dealI dont want Fad to fight Joe, why would Joe want to go beat a young green fighter, he wont get anything out of it. Sure Fad Dawson has more skill and a better resume at his age but he can wait til Joe is 43 or something :deal

JOSEY WALES
11-10-2008, 12:40 PM
I dont want Fad to fight Joe, why would Joe want to go beat a young green fighter, he wont get anything out of it. Sure Fad Dawson has more skill and a better resume at his age but he can wait til Joe is 43 or something :deal :lol: