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German based Armenian midde weight top gun Artur Abraham(23-0)will square off against his very capable compatriot Khoren Gevor(27-2) august the 18th in Germany's capital Berlin.
Gevor is a teak tough cookie,a true warrior who is cut out for an entertaining fight due to his exciting style.I guess that Khoren will put all his eggs into one basket going for Abraham with blazing guns trying to engage him in a war of attrition.I have watched quite a lot of Gevor's fight either live or on tv,and I am damn sure that he will give Artur hell in their upcomming bout.
Gevor twice lost to the very decent czech middle weight Lukas Konecny.
Both fights were stopped due to injuries,and both fights were fairly close at the time when they were stopped.
And by the way both fights were true fun to watch.I for sure bet my money on Abraham by either a close point decision or a late stoppage victory.
Abraham has the edge in firepower and big fight experience,but he wont be able to give Gevor short shrift nor will he be able to play it safe against this fearless brawler.
The fight could be quite similar to the one Abraham had with that African Kofi Jantuah.
As I see it Abraham will come up against very stiff resistance against his compatriot who plays in a different league compared with Abraham's last opponent Demers.
The undercard of Abraham vs Gevor is quite good,too.
Michel Trabant (43-2) vs Giammario Grasselini(16-1)
Mads Larsen (47-2) vs Nader Hamdan(40-4)
Yoan Hernandez(11-0) vs Lawrence Chapman(19-4)
Karo Murat (11-0) vs Jermain Mackey (14-1)
Alexander Frenkel(11-0) vs Shawn Swartz(18-5)
Lukasz Janik(5-0) vs Rachid El Hadak (11-4)
Thomas Troelenberg(11-0) vs Wassim Khalil(3-2)
Amazing! Very tough matches for some of Sauerland's fighters!
I have never seen the Polish cruiser Lukasz Janik neither live nor on tv,but I am wondering why the hell will he face such a pretty good opponent in his 6th pro fight.
El Hadak is an extremely tough,durable,and dangerous fighter who had his moments against either top cruiser weight gun Marco Huck and czech silver medalist Rudolf Kraj.El Hadak lost his last pro fight against hard hitting former amateur star Ali Ismailov.
What a tough match for the inexperienced Pole!
Frenkel,who is still quite green,will fight a more or less decent opponent,too.His foe,the American Shawn Swartz has already shared a ring with top fighters like Grigory Drozd or Vadim Tokarev.
However,compared with Janik's opponent it should be a walk in the park for the Russian-German.
German based Armenian Karo Murat will also face a very difficult opponent in his 12th pro fight.His opponent Jermain Mackey has only lost once in his pro career so far.He went 12 rounds with Jean Pascal who beat Kingley Ikeke in his last outing to a ring.Tough fight for Karo Murat!
Cuban cruiser weight talent Yoan Hernandez will also face a fairly decent opponent:Lawrence Chapmam from the USA.
Chapman drawed against Donell Wiggins in his last fight,and has shared the ring with the likes of Vitaly Tsypko,Robert Stieglitz,and Antwun Echols.
Mads Larsen will have another stiff test when squaring off against Australian based Arab Hamdan.
Good and very tough matchmaking! I will watch this fight event live,and I am glad that this fight card looks very interesting -at least on paper.
To tell the truth I am still flubbergasted that Janik will face such a tough opponent in his 6th pro fight.The Pole must be either a truly great talent who is able to go very far or be the square peg in Sauerland's hole who doesnt fit in his stable anymore.
All in all a very good fight card IMO.
*BOX_FAN*
08-07-2007, 10:26 AM
I saw Janik's 3 or 4 fights and he impressed me a lot. He fights smartly, has good handspeed and defence. His stamina is good for 6-rounds fight. He fights similar to Huck but not as good as him of course. However I'm surprised that Janik will fight such a good opponent :huh . I wish him all best and I think he can win this one :bbbIMO
chliJs
08-07-2007, 11:21 AM
does anybody here know anything about this abraham/wegener documentary movie? a couple of days there was a trailer on the front page, "harte hände" or something.
Toney
08-07-2007, 12:50 PM
I belive that King Arthur will outclass and stop Gevor.
bumdujour
08-07-2007, 01:00 PM
gevor only wins if he uses his southpaw stance to jab and move, getting the much stronger abraham to charge after him, then counter and tie him up.
if gevor looks for exchanges, he is a dead man. he has neither the power nor the strength to hurt abraham.
What i've seen of Gevor hasn't impressed me the least and on top of that he lost twice to Lukas Konecny, no matter what the excuses, which is ... ehh .... bad ...
Should be an easy night for AA, but we'll see.
rrezike
08-07-2007, 01:42 PM
What i've seen of Gevor hasn't impressed me the least and on top of that he lost twice to Lukas Konecny, no matter what the excuses, which is ... ehh .... bad ...
Should be an easy night for AA, but we'll see.
Its a pitty that we havent seen Winky vs abraham.
unitas
08-07-2007, 01:43 PM
gevor can fight. and he is trained by fritz sdunek........wich is an advantage to him. but AA has too much natural ability.
Toney
08-07-2007, 02:05 PM
gevor can fight. and he is trained by fritz sdunek........wich is an advantage to him.
Donīt know about that... Ulli Wegner is one heck of a trainer as well.
I expect a one-sided fight, but still I feel that it is an interesting match-up. :good Well... I am a big King Arthur fan, so I get exxhited every time he steps in the ring.
I saw Janik's 3 or 4 fights and he impressed me a lot. He fights smartly, has good handspeed and defence. His stamina is good for 6-rounds fight. He fights similar to Huck but not as good as him of course. However I'm surprised that Janik will fight such a good opponent :huh . I wish him all best and I think he can win this one :bbbIMO
He must be pretty good in order to beat El Hadak in his 6 th pro fight.
The French based Arab has a proven track record,and showed quite decent performances against the likes of Huck and Kraj.He also went the full route with former amateur star Ali Ismailov who for sure has pop in his fists.
I guess that he will have to nail his colours to the mast in his fight against El Hadak.I wish him good luck,too,but he 'd better keep his nose to the grindstone or he'll be in for a bad surprise against the rough Arab.
Tom_Tocca
08-16-2007, 06:10 PM
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Thanx for the link. There must be bad blood between the two because I know theres no way the two couldnt be friends both being Armenian in a foreign country working out in the same gym. Im not too happy theyre fighting eachother, but hey business is business. I hope though that Abraham wins and Gevor gets his stock raised through the fight.
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Decent preview,tom!
Abraham vs Gevor will probably be quite similar to Abraham's encounter with African Kofi Jantuah.
I for my part expect a very exciting and extremely entertaining fight.
I very much hope that this particular fight wont fall short of my expectations because I am going to watch it live in Berlin's Schmelling arena.
Tough fight for Abraham IMO.Gevor will give him hell in the ring-at least within the first half of their encounter.
Gevor has a good chin and can take some good punches.
Abraham by either late stoppage or by point decision.
LeedsLad
08-17-2007, 07:40 AM
Yoan Hernandez looked pretty good last time i saw him on the Abraham-Demers undercard, he could be a good fighter with a few more fights under his belt.
Yoan Hernandez looked pretty good last time i saw him on the Abraham-Demers undercard, he could be a good fighter with a few more fights under his belt.
He still needs a lot of time to take on decent opponents IMO.He struggled with an Argentinian journeyman who even scored a knockdown against the young Cuban.
Hernandez is a very talented fighter,but he seems to have difficulties in following a strict game plan.
Alexeev wiped the floor with that abovementioned Argentinian journeyman.
Anyway! There is really no need to rush him into big fights.Hernandez is still a very young greenhorn.
rrezike
08-18-2007, 12:29 PM
German based Armenian midde weight top gun Artur Abraham(23-0)will square off against his very capable compatriot Khoren Gevor(27-2) august the 18th in Germany's capital Berlin.
Gevor is a teak tough cookie,a true warrior who is cut out for an entertaining fight due to his exciting style.I guess that Khoren will put all his eggs into one basket going for Abraham with blazing guns trying to engage him in a war of attrition.I have watched quite a lot of Gevor's fight either live or on tv,and I am damn sure that he will give Artur hell in their upcomming bout.
Gevor twice lost to the very decent czech middle weight Lukas Konecny.
Both fights were stopped due to injuries,and both fights were fairly close at the time when they were stopped.
And by the way both fights were true fun to watch.I for sure bet my
money on Abraham by either a close point decision or a late stoppage victory.
Abraham has the edge in firepower and big fight experience,but he wont be able to give Gevor short shrift nor will he be able to play it safe against this fearless brawler.
The fight could be quite similar to the one Abraham had with that African Kofi Jantuah.
As I see it Abraham will come up against very stiff resistance against his compatriot who plays in a different league compared with Abraham's last opponent Demers.
The undercard of Abraham vs Gevor is quite good,too.
Michel Trabant (43-2) vs Giammario Grasselini(16-1)
Mads Larsen (47-2) vs Nader Hamdan(40-4)
Yoan Hernandez(11-0) vs Lawrence Chapman(19-4)
Karo Murat (11-0) vs Jermain Mackey (14-1)
Alexander Frenkel(11-0) vs Shawn Swartz(18-5)
Lukasz Janik(5-0) vs Rachid El Hadak (11-4)
Thomas Troelenberg(11-0) vs Wassim Khalil(3-2)
Amazing! Very tough matches for some of Sauerland's fighters!
I have never seen the Polish cruiser Lukasz Janik neither live nor on tv,but I am wondering why the hell will he face such a pretty good opponent in his 6th pro fight.
El Hadak is an extremely tough,durable,and dangerous fighter who had his moments against either top cruiser weight gun Marco Huck and czech silver medalist Rudolf Kraj.El Hadak lost his last pro fight against hard hitting former amateur star Ali Ismailov.
What a tough match for the inexperienced Pole!
Frenkel,who is still quite green,will fight a more or less decent opponent,too.His foe,the American Shawn Swartz has already shared a ring with top fighters like Grigory Drozd or Vadim Tokarev.
However,compared with Janik's opponent it should be a walk in the park for the Russian-German.
German based Armenian Karo Murat will also face a very difficult opponent in his 12th pro fight.His opponent Jermain Mackey has only lost once in his pro career so far.He went 12 rounds with Jean Pascal who beat Kingley Ikeke in his last outing to a ring.Tough fight for Karo Murat!
Cuban cruiser weight talent Yoan Hernandez will also face a fairly decent opponent:Lawrence Chapmam from the USA.
Chapman drawed against Donell Wiggins in his last fight,and has shared the ring with the likes of Vitaly Tsypko,Robert Stieglitz,and Antwun Echols.
Mads Larsen will have another stiff test when squaring off against Australian based Arab Hamdan.
Good and very tough matchmaking! I will watch this fight event live,and I am glad that this fight card looks very interesting -at least on paper.
To tell the truth I am still flubbergasted that Janik will face such a tough opponent in his 6th pro fight.The Pole must be either a truly great talent who is able to go very far or be the square peg in Sauerland's hole who doesnt fit in his stable anymore.
All in all a very good fight card IMO.
Abraham vs Gevor Undercard and Kick Off
1st fight and beginning of the Boxing Evening:
approx. 16:30 gmt: Rachid El Hadak (FRA) - Lukasz Janik (POL) > 6 rounds
approx. 16:50 gmt
2nd fight: Giammario Grassellini (ITA) vs. Michel Trabant (GER) > 10 rounds
approx. 17:40 gmt
3rd fight: Jermain Mackey (Bahamas) vs. Karo Murat (GER) > 8 rounds
4th fight: WBA Fedelatin Cruiserweight Title
Daniel Bispo (BRA) vs. Yoan Pablo Hernandez (Cuba) > 10 rounds
5th fight: Shane Swartz (USA) vs. Alexander Frenkel (GER) > 8 rounds
19:40 gmt: 6th fight: Nader Hamdam (Australia) vs. Mads Larsen (DEN) > 8 rounds
7th fight: Mike Algoet (BEL) vs. Thomas Troelenberg (GER) > 8 rounds
approx. 21:15 gmt: IBF Middleweight Title
8th fight: Khoren Gevor (Armenia) vs. Arthur Abraham (GER) > 12 rounds
Maden
08-18-2007, 01:23 PM
Live stream to the event anywhere???
buddynabuick
08-18-2007, 01:44 PM
Live stream to the event anywhere???
can't believe this won't be shown in the states.:patsch
Internet Stream? Anywhere?
rrezike
08-18-2007, 02:51 PM
Internet Stream? Anywhere?
Wow to quick KO by Hernandez and Frenkel in ther first round and first minute. Impressing boxers.
pioterbezkitu
08-18-2007, 03:12 PM
Wow to quick KO by Hernandez and Frenkel in ther first round and first minute. Impressing boxers.
Have you seen Janik-Hadak fight? Could you give me some info on this encounter? It ended as a MD for Janik. Thanks in advance
rrezike
08-18-2007, 04:49 PM
Have you seen Janik-Hadak fight? Could you give me some info on this encounter? It ended as a MD for Janik. Thanks in advance
No idea about this fight.
rrezike
08-18-2007, 04:52 PM
Have you seen Janik-Hadak fight? Could you give me some info on this encounter? It ended as a MD for Janik. Thanks in advance
Unbeaten cruiserweight Lukasz Janik (6-0, 4 KOs) outpointed Rachid El Hadak (11-5, 3 KOs) over six by scores of 60-57, 58-56 and 58-58.
Split decision
pioterbezkitu
08-18-2007, 05:05 PM
Unbeaten cruiserweight Lukasz Janik (6-0, 4 KOs) outpointed Rachid El Hadak (11-5, 3 KOs) over six by scores of 60-57, 58-56 and 58-58.
Split decision
Thanks
rrezike
08-18-2007, 06:20 PM
Gevor is for real!
WOW what a match guys... I really enjoy it. It is the best event of sauerland this year.
Artani
08-19-2007, 01:27 AM
Abraham shows once again that he punching like heavyweight. Belive or not he sometime making sparrings with Valuev and before did with Sinan Samil Sam. The both Valuev and Sam was saying before that he punching harder than some heavyweights.
Toney
08-19-2007, 05:24 AM
King Arthur is THE MAN!!!
Gevor looked like a boy there. Gevor has great chin, but otherwise he looked lie a boy... Abraham is just so tough that most of the other boxers looks like boys when they are in the ring with him.
Gevor had no power in his punches and he had no tools to break Abrahams defence. Everytime King Arthur hit Gervor, he just stood there in front of Abraham. Stupid "tactic"... well that shows that he has not enough experince. Universum has matched him up too easilly. Or then he is just not good and smart enough.
I would rather lay praise on Gevor. Arthur´s victory depended on knockout last night, which he did 3 minutes left in the fight. It was rather similar to Asikainen - Sylvester II, with the difference that Gevor has Sylvester´s power while Asikainen had Abraham´s. Or more like that anyway. Thus, Gevor got destroyed and Asikainen only stopped. But the losing fighters pressed the action and would´ve deserved a decision.
No matter what, Gevors stock went up after this fight. He should go down to 154 lb, hill be a serious player there.
I truly enjoyed yesterday's fight card in Germany's capital Berlin.
Abraham vs Gevor was a true war.Armenian warrior Gevor almost upset the apple car giving hell to Abraham in their encounter.Both fighters are a chip off the old same block.Props to both of them for such a great fight which was pure fun to watch.The crowd went emotionally beserk quite a few times during their extremely entertaining and exciting performance.
Gevor met his match in Abraham who put him out of action in round 11,but hell though Gevor got the short end of the stick he made the water dangerously hot for his compatriot putting all his eggs into one basket duking it out with Abraham.If Gevor had fought just a little bit more cautiously he might have been able to win a point decision against his great rival from their beloved country Armenia.
What a feast for the eyes this great battle was!One of the best middle weight fights I have seen within the last couple of years,and for sure one of the best fights I have seen this year so far.
Abraham took some good shots(Gevor even stunned him in round 7? if I remember correctly) but proved that he rules the roost.
Despite his ko loss Gevor for sure belongs among the top 10 of his weight division.
As for the other fights young Cuban cruiser Hernandez had an easy task blowing out a black Columbian who seemed to be totally intimidated by the crowd,and when he caught sight of his opponent his heart went right into his boots.Hernandez deserves praise for his flawless performance,but to tell the truth that fight didnt really prove anything.
His Russian stablemate Frenkel also gave his foe short shrift taking him out in brutal fashion.His American opponent Swartz seemed to be seriously hurt by Frenkel powerful shot.Most ring observers feared for the worst.
German talent Troelenberg had some trouble with experienced journeyman Algoet winning a point decision.
Have you seen Janik-Hadak fight? Could you give me some info on this encounter? It ended as a MD for Janik. Thanks in advance
Polish greenhorn Janik faced a cagey and teak tough French based Arab fighter with a proven track record who had already shared the ring with the likes of Kraj,Huck,and Ismailov.It was a very difficult fight for the young Pole,and to be fair the young cruiser's opponent El Hadak was better than either Hernandez's and Frenkel's opponent.However,both Hernandez and Frenkel have far more pro experience than the young Pole.
As for the fight it was a very close fight,and El Hadak was even able to hurt his opponent quite badly with one of his punches.However,luck was young Janik's companian as he managed to survive the few seconds till the bell sounded to announce the ring break.
Janik came back quite strongly in round 3 ,but El Hadak offered stiff resistance throughout their entire encounter.The Pole won a majority decision,but the fight could have gone either way IMO.Janik's heavier punches probably tipped the scale in favour of him.
El Hadak was a brute of a problem for the young Pole,and a good shot across the bugs at the right point of his pro career.
The Pole has pop in his fists,and I was quite impressed how well he came back after El Hadak had hurt him quite badly.He seems to be mentally quite tough,and nobody can really doubt his heart,but....he strongly lacks experience and shouldnt try to bomb an opponent like El Hadak out of the ring.I somehow doubt that Janik will ever be a true top dog,but he can go fairly far IMO.
However,someone like Alexeev would give him a lesson in boxing dismantling him within 4 rounds schooling him from pillar to post.
Mick4
08-19-2007, 11:10 AM
His Russian stablemate Frenkel also gave his foe short shrift taking him out in brutal fashion.His American opponent Swartz seemed to be seriously hurt by Frenkel powerful shot.Most ring observers feared for the worst.
I saw him interviewed on German tv, and he didn't sound like a native speaker to me (My German is very bad though, so I'm not sure), but his name sounds German, is he actually Russian?
I saw him interviewed on German tv, and he didn't sound like a native speaker to me (My German is very bad though, so I'm not sure), but his name sounds German, is he actually Russian?
I am not really sure,mick! I guess that he has a german passport.
Due to better marketiblity in Germany fighters like Artur Abraham,Felix Sturm,or Macro Huck had to change their names.I have no clue whether Alexander Frenkel is his real name or not.I havent been that much interested in him up to now.
However,he for sure is no native German.
Grabonator
08-19-2007, 11:42 AM
In the first half of the fight it looked good for Gevor. He showed great chín and heart but at some point of the fight after the 7th or 8th round i realised Gevor wont withstand Abrahams power for 12 rounds. Abraham was looking for the KO, from begin to the end and sometimes it didnt look verry good but at the end he got the job done and was ahead on points too.
I saw him interviewed on German tv, and he didn't sound like a native speaker to me (My German is very bad though, so I'm not sure), but his name sounds German, is he actually Russian?
Alexander Frenkel is his real name and he was born in the Ukraine. But since according to Odo there is no such thing as ethnic Germans in Eastern Europe you can include him in whatever ethnic slavic group you feel like. :yep Odo wants him to be Russian, so be it, what's you preference, Polish maybe? :hey
Toney
08-19-2007, 02:44 PM
How did you score the first 10 rounds?
I had it 99-91 for King Arthur.
You can´t score rounds for Abraham simply because he did what he wanted for 30 seconds. Round lasts 3 minutes.
Toney
08-19-2007, 06:29 PM
You canīt score rounds for Abraham simply because he did what he wanted for 30 seconds. Round lasts 3 minutes.
Abraham surely got more done inside those 30 seconds tha Gevor got done in 2.30 of the rounds.
Anyone could see that Abraham was in the control of the fight all the time. The official score were 98-91, 97-93 and 97-95 for Abraham. What the heck was the last judge thinking? :-( Ringsidegirls? Gevorīs ass?
Tom_Tocca
08-19-2007, 06:32 PM
my score at ringside was 98-93 Abraham...
rrezike
08-19-2007, 08:40 PM
I saw him interviewed on German tv, and he didn't sound like a native speaker to me (My German is very bad though, so I'm not sure), but his name sounds German, is he actually Russian?
He is Ukranian
rrezike
08-19-2007, 08:45 PM
You canīt score rounds for Abraham simply because he did what he wanted for 30 seconds. Round lasts 3 minutes.
Cmon man even Sdunek admited that after the 6th round there was no game for Gevor. Gevor tactic was really good but he couldnt stand 12 rounds like that. When he stopped moving he convicted him, self with a KO.
And stop telling me that Abraham has just played 30 sekonds in his last rounds. It was the tactic guys.
By the way the fight should gave been stopped before the KO
rrezike
08-19-2007, 08:45 PM
You canīt score rounds for Abraham simply because he did what he wanted for 30 seconds. Round lasts 3 minutes.
Cmon man even Sdunek admited that after the 6th round there was no game for Gevor. Gevor tactic was really good but he couldnt stand 12 rounds like that. When he stopped moving he convicted him, self with a KO.
And stop telling me that Abraham has just played 30 sekonds in his last rounds. It was the tactic guys.
By the way the fight should gave been stopped before the KO
I just watched the whole fight on youtube, it was a tough fight to score, but I scored it 98-94 Abraham with rounds 2 and 9 even
albaneze
08-20-2007, 05:10 AM
when abraham fights some1 his own size he is gonna get owned what belt does he exactly have?
IBF
Tom_Tocca
08-20-2007, 06:10 AM
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years ago...
Artani
08-20-2007, 08:36 AM
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years ago...
Is this Arthur , Tom ?
Tom_Tocca
08-20-2007, 08:55 AM
indeed, Artani...
albaneze
08-20-2007, 09:22 AM
Years fly very fast.
Toney
08-20-2007, 01:59 PM
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Great photo! :good
I just watched the whole fight on youtube, it was a tough fight to score, but I scored it 98-94 Abraham with rounds 2 and 9 even
Their fight was really tough to score.I watched it live.Me and my mates as well as the people around us thought that it was a pretty close fight up to the 10 th round.
Their fight was really tough to score.I watched it live.Me and my mates as well as the people around us thought that it was a pretty close fight up to the 10 th round.
Ya it was..sometimes I had to restart watching the round to analyze Gevors work to see if it was enough to warrant him the round. There was a common pattern, in which Gevor would be a head around the 2/3 mark of the rounds, but then Abraham would land dramatic shots towards the end of the rounds and convince me that he did more damage.
P.S: I read your responce in the Valuev thread where I was mad because he dropped his coach. You were right in your responce. I guess I value loyalty over most other attributes, but hey, Valuevs the one risking his life in the ring, so maybe a change in head trainers will suit him better.:good
Ya it was..sometimes I had to restart watching the round to analyze Gevors work to see if it was enough to warrant him the round. There was a common pattern, in which Gevor would be a head around the 2/3 mark of the rounds, but then Abraham would land dramatic shots towards the end of the rounds and convince me that he did more damage.
P.S: I read your responce in the Valuev thread where I was mad because he dropped his coach. You were right in your responce. I guess I value loyalty over most other attributes, but hey, Valuevs the one risking his life in the ring, so maybe a change in head trainers will suit him better.:good
Valuev seems to value loyalty,too! Otherwise he would have fired his old Armenian coach.
I guess they are very close friends-I have never had the impression that the Armenian is a kind of hired gun or "just" a coach.
Gevor was one of the toughest opponents Abraham has faced in a pro ring up to now.Artur had to take some very good and telling shots.
If I remember correctly Gevor was even able to hurt and stun Abraham in round 6 or 7.Within the next few days I am going to watch their encounter once again,but this time at home in front of a telly.
Tom_Tocca
08-21-2007, 04:51 PM
Valuev seems to value loyalty,too! Otherwise he would have fired his old Armenian coach.
I guess they are very close friends-I have never had the impression that the Armenian is a kind of hired gun or "just" a coach.
Gevor was one of the toughest opponents Abraham has faced in a pro ring up to now.Artur had to take some very good and telling shots.
If I remember correctly Gevor was even able to hurt and stun Abraham in round 6 or 7.Within the next few days I am going to watch their encounter once again,but this time at home in front of a telly.
AA was never stunned and most of Gevors shots hit AAs gloves...the most telling shots hit AAs ears...
AA was never stunned and most of Gevors shots hit AAs gloves...the most telling shots hit AAs ears...
Well,I am going to rewatch that fight within the next few days at home.
And as you said:most of Gevor's shots hit Abraham's gloves.What about the other punches?
Abraham has a very decent chin,and he for sure can take a punch,and he for sure took some good shots against Gevor.
Gevor isnt known for his devastating firepower,but he isnt feather fisted either.
I am quite positive that Abraham did feel the accumulation of those countless shots thrown by Gevor.
Well,I am going to rewatch that fight within the next few days at home.
And as you said:most of Gevor's shots hit Abraham's gloves.What about the other punches?
Abraham has a very decent chin,and he for sure can take a punch,and he for sure took some good shots against Gevor.
Gevor isnt known for his devastating firepower,but he isnt feather fisted either.
I am quite positive that Abraham did feel the accumulation of those countless shots thrown by Gevor.
When I was watching the fight, I didnt see AA get stunned once. But, Gevor landed the right hook on the left side of AA's jaw all night. You can see the swelling on this pic.
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Artani
08-21-2007, 06:12 PM
What about fight betwen Abraham vs Sturm ?
Who will win ?
Its Gevor was test for Universum to know how good is Abraham ?
Tom_Tocca
08-21-2007, 06:57 PM
That why Arthurīs face after the fight looked a but puffed up ;) and in round seven Ghevor nailed AA with a straight left flush in his face and AA stopped immediatly comming forward. I doubt he was hurt but he was aware of Ghevorīs power.
That makes it for me :good
Artani
08-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Well, iīm one of the few who can see Sturm outboxing Abraham. Sturm has all the tools to do so and iīd love to see that fight but i doubt it will happen.
Sturm is better technikel and faster but Abraham punchin hard . I will give chance 50-50 ?
rrezike
08-21-2007, 08:53 PM
Cmon guys
What is all this talking about Gevor..
It is simple guys Abraham is a champ and he showed that he is better than Gevor in the ring
Stop Being the **ANALists**
Toney
08-22-2007, 03:05 AM
Sturm is better technikel and faster but Abraham punchin hard . I will give chance 50-50 ?
Sturm is a good fighter, he would have a chance to win against any middleweight. But I would say that Abraham would be a 75-25 favourite. He is the man.
I say Abraham takes it from Sturm for a few reason. One, he is a much more powerful fighter, but also more importantly, his a smart fighter. Sturm has great boxing skills, but his the type that plays it too safe, specially since his Ko loss to Castillejo. So this leaves too big of a margin for AA to win. AA will attack confidently knowing Sturms arsenal is not enough to stop him and secondly, Sturm will most likely go into safe mode as soon as he tastes AA's power, which will make AA the agressor and give him the point win. Thats why, I say this fight is a 65%-%35 split in favor of Abraham.
Tom_Tocca
08-22-2007, 06:29 AM
Hey Hrak, what do you think about a fight between AA and Sergio Mora if Mora wins against Ouma on Sept.15, especially in California with the biggest Armenian community outside of Amenia?
rrezike
08-22-2007, 07:09 AM
I say Abraham takes it from Sturm for a few reason. One, he is a much more powerful fighter, but also more importantly, his a smart fighter. Sturm has great boxing skills, but his the type that plays it too safe, specially since his Ko loss to Castillejo. So this leaves too big of a margin for AA to win. AA will attack confidently knowing Sturms arsenal is not enough to stop him and secondly, Sturm will most likely go into safe mode as soon as he tastes AA's power, which will make AA the agressor and give him the point win. Thats why, I say this fight is a 65%-%35 split in favor of Abraham.
Good post:good
Tom_Tocca
08-22-2007, 12:19 PM
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Hey Hrak, what do you think about a fight between AA and Sergio Mora if Mora wins against Ouma on Sept.15, especially in California with the biggest Armenian community outside of Amenia?
Thats an interesting fight. Im sure Mora will give AA some problems in the begining with his style, but then again, Mora is not proven. His not faced any top quality guys. I would definetly favor AA, but let see how Mora performes agaist Ouma to make the final judgment.
If you missed it on the main forum, I have posted a link for an exclusive interview with Arthur and his brother...
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Thanx for the link Tom, good interview. I never knew Novi posted on other sites, I havent seen him on ESB for a while now.
scorpy
08-22-2007, 11:18 PM
Hey Hrak, what do you think about a fight between AA and Sergio Mora if Mora wins against Ouma on Sept.15, especially in California with the biggest Armenian community outside of Amenia?
Mora won't beat Ouma.
Tom_Tocca
08-23-2007, 05:14 AM
Thanx for the link Tom, good interview. I never knew Novi posted on other sites, I havent seen him on ESB for a while now.
Novi gave up writing articles for ESB and switched over to Boxing Confidential...
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