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MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 03:11 PM
I can understand why ya'll love him so much. I love his trash talking and his recklessness too. My question is why do ya'll hate Floyd when his antics are nowhere near as bad as Mayorga's? LOL

Boyd
08-06-2007, 03:15 PM
i love em both.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 03:25 PM
Me too. I just don't see why anybody that likes Mayorga can hate Floyd, Hopkins, or any other trash talker.

digiram
08-06-2007, 03:40 PM
Love Floyd, but don't really care for Mayorga. I don't really care for whom they are outside of the ring. Inside ring performance is what matters most to me.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 03:46 PM
Love Floyd, but don't really care for Mayorga. I don't really care for whom they are outside of the ring. Inside ring performance is what matters most to me.That's how it should be.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 04:31 PM
Here's the difference. Mayorga grew up in the slums of Nicaragua. He doesnt "ACT" like a thug/gangster.....HE IS ONE!. Floyd grew up in a good home and never had to struggle for anything growing up with the exception of training and boxing. Yet he puts on this tuff "ghetto" act as if he's really came up ruff. Secondly, Mayorga's trash talking is actually funny, whereas Floyd comes off as an annoying little brat when he tries to talk trash.I feel what you saying but you can grow up in a good home (money wise) and still go through some shit. I mean look at who his dad and uncle are man. I know you saw 24/7. I know if my Pops had gone to the pen when I was a teenager it would've messed with me too.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 04:41 PM
I hear you, but compare both Floyd's and Mayorga's upbringing. Mayorga practically lived in a shack without any plumbing, and had to go out everyday and find ways to eat, while trying not to get killed by rival gangs. Floyd was getting home cooked meals from his grandmother while his father was in the pen. Floyd is 100x more talented than Mayorga, im only putting light on the question you asked.I agree and like I said I love them both myself. If Floyd said some of the shit Ricardo says though he might get sniped. LOL

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 04:43 PM
simply put, mayorga is actually funny with his antics. mayweather just comes off as a prick. plus the whole greatest ever ego of his doesn't help. mayorga has never claimed to be the greatest boxer of all time and i think that really left a bad taste in alot of people's mouths when it comes to floyd joy.

huki
08-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Floyd isn't in Mayorga's league when it comes to trash talking. Mayorga is the #1 P4P trash talker today and his skills are unmatched.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 04:46 PM
I can understand why ya'll love him so much. I love his trash talking and his recklessness too. My question is why do ya'll hate Floyd when his antics are nowhere near as bad as Mayorga's? LOL
I meant to bring this up the other day. The same people who love Mayorga for his trash talk bash PBF for doing the same. Even though Mayorga's is 10x worse and it crosses the line.:-(

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 04:48 PM
simply put, mayorga is actually funny with his antics. mayweather just comes off as a prick. plus the whole greatest ever ego of his doesn't help. mayorga has never claimed to be the greatest boxer of all time and i think that really left a bad taste in alot of people's mouths when it comes to floyd joy.
How's talking about someone's dead mother remotely funny like he said about Spinks. All PBF does is talk shit Mayorga crosses the line.:deal Yet another PBF double standard.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 04:48 PM
I meant to bring this up the other day. The same people who love Mayorga for his trash talk bash PBF for doing the same. Even though Mayorga's is 10x worse and it crosses the line.:-(That's the only point I'm trying to make. I guess because Mayorga is funnier it doesn't matter what he says to people. Spinks should've put a price on his head when he told him he would send him to his dead mother.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 04:49 PM
How's talking about someone's dead mother remotely funny like he said about Spinks. All PBF does is talk shit Mayorga crosses the line.:deal Yet another PBF double standard.Stop reading my mind man. lol

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 04:51 PM
Here's the difference. Mayorga grew up in the slums of Nicaragua. He doesnt "ACT" like a thug/gangster.....HE IS ONE!. Floyd grew up in a good home and never had to struggle for anything growing up with the exception of training and boxing. Yet he puts on this tuff "ghetto" act as if he's really came up ruff. Secondly, Mayorga's trash talking is actually funny, whereas Floyd comes off as an annoying little brat when he tries to talk trash.
Another PBF double standard someone else can do it but PBF can't. One fighter looks like a good win on someone elses resume but on PBF's it's trash. Fighter A can call out someone else and disrespect them but PBF can't? Pathetic you irrational haters are.:-(

Saltzy
08-06-2007, 04:51 PM
They both always talk about going toe to toe and slugging it out with their opponents, making a fight of it. The difference is Mayorga actually lives up to his shit talk and fights, Floyd does not.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 04:53 PM
Stop reading my mind man. lol
:lol: :good Great minds think a like.

MacManJr.
08-06-2007, 04:53 PM
They both always talk about going toe to toe and slugging it out with their opponents, making a fight of it. The difference is Mayorga actually lives up to his shit talk and fights, Floyd does not.That's because that is the only way Mayorga knows how to fight. Now compare their fights against Oscar. Who would you rather be?

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 04:54 PM
How's talking about someone's dead mother remotely funny like he said about Spinks. All PBF does is talk shit Mayorga crosses the line.:deal Yet another PBF double standard.

while i agree that that did cross the line, in general the man is funny and to put it simply, entertaining. talking about sucking the milk from hoya's wife's tits among other things. floyd is just a prick who makes it seem like no fighter is worthy to step in the ring with him both past and present. like i said while mayorga might cross the line here and there, he is always entertaining and floyd just isn't at all really. plus the ghetto-hip hop image might not appeal to certain people.

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Both have their merits, as fighters and personalities. In both cases, it's all subjective. Everything about our beloved sport, at the end of the day, is highly subjective. This is exactly the kind of microscope analysis that collectively gives us a rep for taking the foundations of our assumptions too seriously and too far.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 04:57 PM
while i agree that that did cross the line, in general the man is funny and to put it simply, entertaining. talking about sucking the milk from hoya's wife's tits among other things. floyd is just a prick who makes it seem like no fighter is worthy to step in the ring with him both past and present. like i said while mayorga might cross the line here and there, he is always entertaining and floyd just isn't at all really. plus the ghetto-hip hop image might not appeal to certain people.
But the talking about a fighter's dead mother and talking about fighter's wives turning tricks should appeal to everyone right? You have a blatant double standard here.:deal

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 04:58 PM
Both have their merits, as fighters and personalities. In both cases, it's all subjective. Everything about our beloved sport, at the end of the day, is highly subjective.

so in other words, to each his own, everyone has their own opinion, yada yada yada. kinda a cop out statement since it can be used for most any topic and contributes nothing to the topic in the end. this is about discussion and debate, not lets call it a draw and go home.

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 04:58 PM
But the talking about a fighter's dead mother and talking about fighter's wives turning tricks should appeal to everyone right? You have a blantant double standard here.:deal

i never said it should appeal to everyone but it obviously appeals to more people than floyd's antics do :deal

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 05:00 PM
i never said it should appeal to everyone but it obviously appeals to more people than floyd's antics do :deal
I doubt that PBF is a bigger draw than Mayorga so I would say he has more appeal.:deal

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 05:01 PM
so in other words, to each his own, everyone has their own opinion, yada yada yada. kinda a cop out statement since it can be used for most any topic and contributes nothing to the topic in the end. this is about discussion and debate, not lets call it a draw and go home.

it's a way of saying that comparison between the two in any area is quite a stretch, and unlikely to provide a very high ratio of insight to hugger/hater verbal diarrhea. apples and oranges. it's only a cop-out if you're claiming a noncommital answer as an active participant in the discussion - i am rejecting the very premise of the discussion outright.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 05:04 PM
Mayorga talks tough coz he came from real hardship and when he steps into the ring he fights like a beast.

Floyd invents sadness in his life, talks like a murderer and potshots his opponents.

Plus Floyd isnt funny.
But Mayorag is? I don't see the humor in talking about someone's dead mother it's quite the opposite...you guys are funny.:-(

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 05:06 PM
But Mayorag is? I don't see the humor in talking about someone's dead mother it's quite the opposite...you guys are funny.:-(

You keep harping on the one instance. It's possible for someone to be of the opinion that that, in particular, wasn't cool, but to still be able to move past that and judge subsequent behavior independently of it.

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Shit, now I'm involved and thereby legitimizing this ridiculous topic. :yep

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 05:15 PM
You keep harping on the one instance. It's possible for someone to be of the opinion that that, in particular, wasn't cool, but to still be able to move past that and judge subsequent behavior independently of it.
What other behavior? The guy has been nothing but a fucking asshole and hasn't backed it up in the ring. The same can't be said about PBF whether you like his style or not is irrelevant because he wins everytime out. I have no problem with shit talkers and actually liked Margo after he beat Forrest, all I'm doing is trying to point out the double standard that exist here.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 05:17 PM
Are you retarded?

You took one of his unfunny quote out of a hundred and just told me Mayorga aint funny.

Worst post of the day so far.
Are you? Margo says a lot of stuff that's in bad taste he crossed the line with Vargas' wife as well. The guy has a track record for this shit, quit making excuses for him.

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 05:22 PM
What other behavior? The guy has been nothing but a fucking asshole and hasn't backed it up in the ring. The same can't be said about PBF whether you like his style or not is irrelevant because he wins everytime out. I have no problem with shit talkers and actually liked Margo after he beat Forrest, all I'm doing is trying to point out the double standard that exist here.

That only works a) if you're arguing about what gets done in-ring and/or b) you're arguing with people who are praising mayorga and trash-talking mayweather, which i don't think anymore than a small handful of haters are.

I respect the shit out of both, as far as what they do in the ring. Mayweather is a p4p king. Mayorga is a fearless crazy tough son of a bitch. One had talent to spare and has honed it to perfection. One had very limited talent to begin with and has less than admirable disciplinary habits, but used what little he had (willpower and a punch) to achieve things he shouldn't have been able to.

I'm not going to sit here and fling shit on one to glorify the other. They really are apples and oranges. Floyd isn't even really known as a trash-talker the way Mayorga and Hopkins are. He's known as being flamboyant, young, and cocky, but before the DLH fight he didn't have an established 'villain' persona. That was completely fabricated for TWA and to be honest the role didn't really suit him.

El Bombasto
08-06-2007, 05:23 PM
I can understand why ya'll love him so much. I love his trash talking and his recklessness too. My question is why do ya'll hate Floyd when his antics are nowhere near as bad as Mayorga's? LOL

because mayorga is entertaining, floyd's just a f@g

thewoo
08-06-2007, 05:27 PM
I don't hate floyd and I actually am not very fond of Mayorga but I still think that the answer on this is pretty obvious. It's the way each guy fights.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 05:29 PM
What???:huh :patsch

There is no double standard because there is no comparison

If Mayorga is funny and Floyd is funny too and not getting praised, then I would say that "hey thats double standard".

When Mayorga is funny and Floyd is not. Wheres the common thread to be judged?

get off Floyds sweaty balls and think straight
There's a double standard it's obvious. PBF talks shit he's seen as a cocky asshole. Mayorga talks shit he's seen as a funny, wild and crazy guy or did that go over your head to?:patsch

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 05:30 PM
I don't hate floyd and I actually am not very fond of Mayorga but I still think that the answer on this is pretty obvious. It's the way each guy fights.
What? One is a boxing guru and the other a limited brawler.:yep

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 05:31 PM
I doubt that PBF is a bigger draw than Mayorga so I would say he has more appeal.:deal
your doubt means nothing. lets see how many people buy floyd's fights without dlh present. from rumaging around this board for a while (not always as a poster) i have seen nothing but outright dislike for floyd's persona outside the ring. on the same token i have seen more people enjoying mayorga simply for his antics. like i said the man is simply more entertaining and i'm sure a poll would prove it. it seems that floyd's main appeak is seeing him lose which doens't say much for his entertainment value.

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 05:32 PM
There's a double standard it's obvious. PBF talks shit he's seen as a cocky asshole. Mayorga talks shit he's seen as a funny, wild and crazy guy or did that go over your head to?:patsch

Maybe it's not a matter of people conspiring to hate PBF, but a matter of you needing a sense of humor? Or the ability to recognize that which other people find humorous, even if you don't yourself? You could substitute anyone for FMJ here; SSM, Paul Williams, Bronco McKart, Vitali Tsypko, Chris John - anybody you stack up against Mayorga, with the exception of maybe Darchinyan or Hopkins, isn't going to come across as as colorful, funny, or effective an antagonist.

IntentionalButt
08-06-2007, 05:33 PM
What? One is a boxing guru and the other a limited brawler.:yep

Don't be ignorant. You know full well that popular opinion tends not to sway in favor of the pure boxer but rather the straight-ahead warrior.

BigReg
08-06-2007, 05:34 PM
What???:huh :patsch

There is no double standard because there is no comparison

If Mayorga is funny and Floyd is funny too and not getting praised, then I would say that "hey thats double standard".

When Mayorga is funny and Floyd is not. Wheres the common thread to be judged?

get off Floyds sweaty balls and think straight

Whether or not either one of them is funny is a matter of opinion. Personally, I find Mayweather to be funnier. All of Mayorga's quotes have to be translated which,to me, takes some of the humor out of it. Also, Mayorga makes too many vulgar comments about peoples' family. I can't stand De La Hoya, but I see nothing funny in Ricardo talking about sucking on his wife's titties. Floyd has crossed the line himself(specifically when he fought Corrales), but he's not as bad as Mayorga.

thewoo
08-06-2007, 05:34 PM
What? One is a boxing guru and the other a limited brawler.:yep

There you go you just answered your own question. The majority of fans perfer to see a brawl

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 05:35 PM
There's a double standard it's obvious. PBF talks shit he's seen as a cocky asshole. Mayorga talks shit he's seen as a funny, wild and crazy guy or did that go over your head to?:patsch

quit your double standard remarks already, that's all you've been saying this whole time. there is no double standard here. they both talk shit but one is more entertaining when he does it than the other. it's that simple but it seems your floyd joy nuthugging won't let you see that your boy just aint that fun to watch, both in and out of the ring.

InHumanForm
08-06-2007, 05:41 PM
i did find floyd to be funny here and there on 27/7 but i found the press conferences leading up to DLH/Mayorga to be WAY funnier. i get it, floyd has money, haha.

BigReg
08-06-2007, 07:06 PM
Floyd has about 25-30 fans. HE IS NOT THAT FUNNY!:-(

I thought he was hillarious on 24/7(even though some of his antics were uncalled for)

MacManJr.
08-07-2007, 08:11 AM
There you go you just answered your own question. The majority of fans perfer to see a brawlBoxing is not about brawling. It's hit and not be hit. If you have BOXING skills then why the hell would you trade punches with somebody that is stronger than you? It makes no sense.

Betty Swollocks
08-07-2007, 08:15 AM
there's a world of difference between Mayorga and Mayweather.
would Mayorga run and pot shot his way to victory, or literally cry in the face of a little criticism? :lol: would he fuck.
Mayorga is a genuine badass, Mayweather is a shallow, spoilt little shithead with little personality.