View Full Version : UFC Biggest fight ever features a guys whos Record is 2 - 1 - 0
robpalmer135
11-10-2008, 10:28 AM
Brock Lesner vs Randy Coture. Seriously the UFC have made a huge mistake making this fight. If Lesner wins it will show theres no skill to UFC and that its just about how big you are. The number one prize in MMA will belong to a guy thats only had 4 fights.
If Coture win it shows that they over hype fighters and rip off fans just like boxing. Its a loose - loose situation for them.
TehRileh
11-10-2008, 10:29 AM
i love your avatar lol.
SouthpawSlayer
11-10-2008, 10:31 AM
this might be moved but i agree size and strenght ( also how much juice you take ) play a big part in mma
saturday_kid
11-10-2008, 10:31 AM
Yeah its that Brock Lesnar, think he's only getting that shot cos he used to be a famous wwf/wwe whatever wrestler! In other words them fake fighters in who wear spandex
dwilson
11-10-2008, 10:32 AM
Firstly this should be moved to the MMA forum and secondly Lesner had a load of fights in WWE against better opposition.
Little Tyson
11-10-2008, 10:38 AM
No need to hate on UFC. Its a great sport MMA not as good as boxing but still. Ill be staying up for Lesner Coture
saturday_kid
11-10-2008, 10:41 AM
Firstly this should be moved to the MMA forum and secondly Lesner had a load of fights in WWE against better opposition.
:D
PaddyD1983
11-10-2008, 10:49 AM
I have no interest in UFC at all. I'm no hater, its just that I have never enjoyed watching it. From what I've seen the majority of fights go to ground and then it gets pretty stale for me...
younghypnotiq
11-10-2008, 10:52 AM
the real biggest fight ever had to of been severn or shamrock
saturday_kid
11-10-2008, 10:57 AM
the real biggest fight ever had to of been severn or shamrock
They went into wrestling an all didnt they?
younghypnotiq
11-10-2008, 10:59 AM
youtube it man ..it's a good fight
younghypnotiq
11-10-2008, 11:00 AM
They went into wrestling an all didnt they?and yeah they did wrestling for a while
dwilson
11-10-2008, 11:00 AM
I love MMA but I do not like this fight. Lesner is good and capable of beating the old Couture but he should have fought a few more times to earn the shot.
GazOC
11-10-2008, 11:02 AM
Is this biggest UFC fight ever?
Beatboxer
11-10-2008, 11:04 AM
Lesnar has an extensive amateur wrestling background, so it's not like he's a total nobody.
Agree that he should have did more to earn his shot though...
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:07 PM
Brock Lesner vs Randy Coture. Seriously the UFC have made a huge mistake making this fight. If Lesner wins it will show theres no skill to UFC and that its just about how big you are. The number one prize in MMA will belong to a guy thats only had 4 fights.
If Coture win it shows that they over hype fighters and rip off fans just like boxing. Its a loose - loose situation for them.
Rob, Rob, Rob as a long time MMA i can tell you that a hell of a lot of people think this fight is a joke.
Also look up a man called "Fedor" if you want to know who holds the biggest prize in the sport of mixed martial arts! ;)
Fedor would destroy Couture and Lesnar on the same night.
Fedor is the GOAT of MMA (Not Anderosn Silva like the UFC want you to believe) and he is the greatest heavyweight mixed martial artist in history.
He's the Ali AND Sugar Ray Robinson of MMA!
Couture vs Lesnar is a joke fight. Lesnar title shot is an absoulte joke and and Randys title shot at Tim Sylvia where he took back the title was a joke too.
Oh and if Lesnar wins it does'nt mean there is no skils in MMA. That comment is nonsense mate.
Lesnar has a very good amatuer wrestling background, is HUGE, fresh, hits hard and is a lot younger than Couture.
On saturday night you wont see a fight for the Undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the World. Only if Fedor is fighting will you see that.
Don't believe the UFC's BS hype.
Couture vs Lesnar isnt even close to being the biggest fight in MMA history.
It may be in terms of PPV sales but Anderson SIlva vs Patrick Cote meant more than Couture vs Lesnar. :lol:
Dana White is full of hsit and only cares about money.
Thats why you had him moaing about Kimbo then the hypocrite gives Brock Lesnar a title shot with such little MMA experience, little fights and a poor record.
Thats why he's got a shit load of cheaply paid meatheads on The Ultimate Fighter who cant fight pro for shit and just piss about, instead of all the other fringe world class and even world class guys out their who take the sport serioulsy and can fight.
Dana cares more about ratigns and money than the sport of MMA.
El Cepillo
11-10-2008, 12:09 PM
Firstly this should be moved to the MMA forum and secondly Lesner had a load of fights in WWE against better opposition.
Its fake man.
robpalmer135
11-10-2008, 12:09 PM
Lesnar has an extensive amateur wrestling background, so it's not like he's a total nobody.
Agree that he should have did more to earn his shot though...
so does David Price. Let put him in with Vitali in his 4th pro fight.
so does David Price. Let put him in with Vitali in his 4th pro fight.
:lol::lol::lol:
Quality avatar btw.
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:17 PM
Is this biggest UFC fight ever?
The greatest "UFC" not "MMA" heavyweight champion of all time vs one of the most famous WWE wrestlers of all time.
In terms of PPV sale then yes, it probabaly will be the biggest UFC ever. :patsch
The real biggest fight out their to be made is Couture vs Fedor but the UFC acts like Fedor does'nt exsist because they can't sign him, and everyone knows that Fedor is the GOAT and would beat Randy up.
Pretending that Fedor is'nt the GOAT is like pretending that Ali was a quiet man. :D
Fedor is the fucking MAN in MMA and the UFC are scared to death of him.
They can fool the casual fans with no internet access that Fedor deos'nt exsist but the hardcore fan's know the truth. The truth is Fedor! :deal :good
scurlaruntings
11-10-2008, 12:26 PM
Is this biggest UFC fight ever?It will be from a business perspective. This type of fight will get all the rednecks baying for blood. Lesnar had a huge name and following in the WWE. Naturally the UFC demographic isnt that disimilar from the WWE. The marketing is essentially the same as is the young fan base. Although Lesnar has NOT earned any right to be fighting for the UFC title the fight makes perfect business sense. Dana is a business man first and an MMA fan second. In my opinion the UFC would loose alot of credibility with a bout like this as historically there heavyweight division has always been weak. For a former WWE star to be top of the food chain makes it even worse because Lesnar has no MMA credentials whatsoever other than his NCAA days as a wrestler. Naturally that is almost tertiary in Dana`s eyes as the colour of green matters most.
scurlaruntings
11-10-2008, 12:30 PM
Lesnar has an extensive amateur wrestling background, so it's not like he's a total nobody.
Agree that he should have did more to earn his shot though...Iin the world of MMA he is. Wrestling means squat in MMA. Being able to control your man on the mat certainly is huge facet of MMA but there are many ways to skin a cat in this sport and pinning your man to mat isnt one of them. Lesnar has no submission skills and no striking skills whatsoever. BUT he is blessed with an inordinate amount of physical talent for a man his size. That being said Fedor would completely humiliate him in under a round. Fedor destroyed Tim Sylvia who was the UFC heavyweight champ and involved in there heavyweight merri-go-round for what seemed like aeons. Fedor destroyed him in under 40 seconds. The gulf in class between someone like Fedor and Lesnar isnt even worth explaining.
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:32 PM
Its fake man.
WWE = Pro/Fake wreslting.
Amateur wrslting ie The Olympic Games = real wrestling.
Brock Lesnar has an extensive background in Amatuer wrestling.
The problem with wreslters is that they only have two places to go to earn money.
Pro/Fake wrestling or MMA where you earn money and wrestle for real.
Of course Brock went for the big money so he went for WWE.
The problem for me with this fight is that Lesnar lacks experience as a complete Mixed Martial Artist so i, and many others don't think he deserves a title shot so early, and he does'nt.
However wreslting is one of the biggest and most important aspects of MMA and make no mistake, Brock Lesnar is a VERY GOOD, experienced and powerfull wreslter.
El Cepillo
11-10-2008, 12:33 PM
UFC is crap. :blurp
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:36 PM
Iin the world of MMA he is. Wrestling means squat in MMA. Being able to control your man on the mat certainly is huge facet of MMA but there are many ways to skin a cat in this sport and pinning your man to mat isnt one of them. Lesnar has no submission skills and no striking skills whatsoever. BUT he is blessed with an inordinate amount of physical talent for a man his size. That being said Fedor would completely humiliate him in under a round. Fedor destroyed Tim Sylvia who was the UFC heavyweight champ and involved in there heavyweight merri-go-round for what seemed like aeons. Fedor destroyed him in under 40 seconds. The gulf in class between someone like Fedor and Lesnar isnt even worth explaining.
Take out the "wrestling means squat in mma" bit and i agree.
Bit silly to type that bit mate. :p
scurlaruntings
11-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Take out the "wrestling means squat in mma" bit and i agree.
Bit silly to type that bit mate. :p:D You know im right. Good "wrastling" means F all in MMA now. Look at Tito, Hughes, Coleman, Shamrock. There all guys that never diversified. Even guys like Rampage who are known as wrestlers have better hands than some accomplished strikers. Wrestling isnt where its at in MMA. Submission wrestling yes. Pure wrestling hell no.:nono
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:39 PM
UFC is crap. :blurp :bbb
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:43 PM
:D You know im right. Good "wrastling" means F all in MMA now. Look at Tito, Hughes, Coleman, Shamrock. There all guys that never diversified. Even guys like Rampage who are known as wrestlers have better hands than some accomplished strikers. Wrestling isnt where its at in MMA. Submission wrestling yes. Pure wrestling hell no.:nono
We are bieng silly now are'nt we? :D
Of course, just doing nothing but pure wreslting would get you killed but you can't not train to wrestle in MMA because that will also, get you killed. :D
Anyway because of Brocks lack of experience in MMA i think Randy will submit him with an arm bar ir something. Randy will be looking for a submission hold and will completely embarass Lesnar if he get's it.
scurlaruntings
11-10-2008, 12:45 PM
We are bieng silly now are'nt we? :D
Of course, just doing nothing but pure wreslting would get you killed but you can't not train to wrestle in MMA because that will also, get you killed. :D
Anyway because of Brocks lack of experience in MMA i think Randy will submit him with an arm bar ir something. Randy will be looking for a submission hold and will completely embarass Ledsnar is he get's it.Possible but Randys never been great in the submission department. His never faired well with big strong guys and could easily get GnP`ed into the mat and scraped off the canvass. Brock is insanely strong and will have no problems manhandling him from the mount or getting him to the mat. My moneys on Lesnar to pull the upset.
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 12:50 PM
Possible but Randys never been great in the submission department. His never faired well with big strong guys and could easily get GnP`ed into the mat and scraped off the canvass. Brock is insanely strong and will have no problems manhandling him from the mount or getting him to the mat. My moneys on Lesnar to pull the upset. :shock:
Randy will arm bar him Fedor style!
scurlaruntings
11-10-2008, 12:57 PM
:shock:
Randy will arm bar him Fedor style!Didnt you see how Lesnar powered out of Frank Mir`s armbar? :tong
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 01:01 PM
Didnt you see how Lesnar powered out of Frank Mir`s armbar? :tong
I see Lensar powering into a rare submission hold win for Randy. :tong
forgive my ignorance of non-ufc mma, but which organisation/events does fedor compete in?
TheChamp1000
11-10-2008, 03:08 PM
:D You know im right. Good "wrastling" means F all in MMA now. Look at Tito, Hughes, Coleman, Shamrock. There all guys that never diversified. Even guys like Rampage who are known as wrestlers have better hands than some accomplished strikers. Wrestling isnt where its at in MMA. Submission wrestling yes. Pure wrestling hell no.:nono
Is it true that the UFC have stipulated the 1-2-3 pin count will be in effect for this match? If it has I am leaning towards lesnar with the wwe experience.
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 03:13 PM
forgive my ignorance of non-ufc mma, but which organisation/events does fedor compete in?
He was the PrideFC Heavyweight Champion which is the second biggest and most famous MMA org of all time.
Now he fight's in multiple org's.
Check out his record and ignore the 1 loss.
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Fedor was cut by an accidental eblow 17 seconds into the fight and because of the nature of the tournamnet they had to declare a winner.
In the rematch Fedor beat him up so badly that he could'nt come out for the second round.
Fedor really is undefeated which is incredible considering his level of opposition and how hard it is to keep and undefeated record in MMA.
robpalmer135
11-10-2008, 03:23 PM
Rob, Rob, Rob as a long time MMA i can tell you that a hell of a lot of people think this fight is a joke.
Also look up a man called "Fedor" if you want to know who holds the biggest prize in the sport of mixed martial arts! ;)
Fedor would destroy Couture and Lesnar on the same night.
Fedor is the GOAT of MMA (Not Anderosn Silva like the UFC want you to believe) and he is the greatest heavyweight mixed martial artist in history.
He's the Ali AND Sugar Ray Robinson of MMA!
Couture vs Lesnar is a joke fight. Lesnar title shot is an absoulte joke and and Randys title shot at Tim Sylvia where he took back the title was a joke too.
Oh and if Lesnar wins it does'nt mean there is no skils in MMA. That comment is nonsense mate.
Lesnar has a very good amatuer wrestling background, is HUGE, fresh, hits hard and is a lot younger than Couture.
On saturday night you wont see a fight for the Undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the World. Only if Fedor is fighting will you see that.
Don't believe the UFC's BS hype.
Couture vs Lesnar isnt even close to being the biggest fight in MMA history.
It may be in terms of PPV sales but Anderson SIlva vs Patrick Cote meant more than Couture vs Lesnar. :lol:
Dana White is full of hsit and only cares about money.
Thats why you had him moaing about Kimbo then the hypocrite gives Brock Lesnar a title shot with such little MMA experience, little fights and a poor record.
Thats why he's got a shit load of cheaply paid meatheads on The Ultimate Fighter who cant fight pro for shit and just piss about, instead of all the other fringe world class and even world class guys out their who take the sport serioulsy and can fight.
Dana cares more about ratigns and money than the sport of MMA.
this is exactly why MMA is no different to boxing with its polotics bull shit
Big N Bad
11-10-2008, 03:51 PM
WHO SAID ITS THE UFCs BIGGEST FIGHT? JUST COS DANA WHITE SAID? THATS JUST HYPE.
THERE HAVE BEEN FAAAAR BIGGER FIGHTS THAN THIS IN THE UFC. shamrock v tito 1 and tito v liddell 2 were something.
even gracie vs hughes was bigger.
lesnar is a good wrestler but he doesnt deserve this title shot. if couture strikes with him, he will win quicker
dwilson
11-10-2008, 04:13 PM
When is this card by the way?
TheChamp1000
11-10-2008, 04:14 PM
When is this card by the way?
I am sure it was advertised as being on setanta this sat/sun morning.
Tuffnutz
11-10-2008, 04:18 PM
this is exactly why MMA is no different to boxing with its polotics bull shit
It's never been any different.
There's about 200 orgs' in MMA so the people who moan about too many org's in boxing are talking rubbish.
There's corruption going on, mismatches, fighters' being robbed by judges, fighter's being robbed by promoters etc etc.
All these problems have always been in the sport yet some MMA fans moan about how bad boxing is, but fail to see that MMA is just as bad iand n some cases, like with the amount of Orgs, it's worse. :lol:
Diablo
11-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Im a big fan of boxing and mma and cant stand ignorant ppl bashing either sport.
This is a fight im excited about and it will be very interesting to see how it plays out. Yeah Brock doesnt have much mma experience but has all the physical tools and amateur wrestling background (which has been the starting point for many mma greats).
Mma fighters dont pad out their records to 28-0 before fighting real comp like boxers do. So the 2-1 record isnt so crazy when two of those guys were top ranked heavyweights.
scurlaruntings
11-10-2008, 05:36 PM
Is it true that the UFC have stipulated the 1-2-3 pin count will be in effect for this match? If it has I am leaning towards lesnar with the wwe experience.I hear its scheduled for 1 fall..
sitiyzal
11-10-2008, 06:37 PM
UFC should allow punches to the back of the head so Lesnar's opponents can't just curl up into a ball like Herring did.
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