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BobDigi5060
08-06-2007, 10:02 PM
This may sound nuts, but I do feel they are gearing towards a big big PPV. If DLH sticks around, gets a few Ws next year, Chavez is going to make some noise. Especially if DLH starts to show his age. I still think Chavez is too raw and still may be in a year and a half. With DLH dropping back down in weight, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens sometime late next year. If Chavez remains undefeated and breaks into the top 10, they are only inching towards eachother. You know that at some point, when he and his camp feels he is ready, junior is going to call out DLH. Deep down he wants to fight DLH and is only waiting till victory is almost certain.

Don't be surprised and remember where you heard it first.

Scar
08-06-2007, 10:04 PM
Chavez Jr.?, don't make me laugh man. No way will Oscar blow a chance to fight many out there that are worthy and go for Chavez who he can EASILY beat.

boxingabc123
08-06-2007, 10:04 PM
ok ill keep it in mind. I know Chavez Jr. has said that he wants to be ODLH for his father.

BobDigi5060
08-06-2007, 10:07 PM
Chavez Jr.?, don't make me laugh man. No way will Oscar blow a chance to fight many out there that are worthy and go for Chavez who he can EASILY beat.

DLH isn't blowing a thing. This fight would could be a money pit. DLH knows it and would be a fool not to take the fight if he were offered tomorrow. Its easy money for him at this point. It wouldn't be a huge event like DLH's last fight but with some momentum, nice looking wins on both parts, it could sell.

I know junior isn't a big enough draw to make DLH/Mayweather type numbers but that name will sell itself. Its brewing and only in time will this become more and more attractive, especially if DLH goes back to 147.

shelterr
08-06-2007, 10:14 PM
I can totally see this happening in time. If JCC jr. beat ODLH it would be CRAZY. I'd buy the pay-per-view and i have a feeling that PLENTY of other people would as well.

King Dan
08-06-2007, 10:16 PM
If De La Hoya is still fighting in early '09, it's a possiblity.

Maybe even if Chavez Jr. feels ready in the fall of '08.

This is a very real possibility and there's a shitload of money that would be involved.

Scar
08-06-2007, 10:17 PM
DLH isn't blowing a thing. This fight would could be a money pit. DLH knows it and would be a fool not to take the fight if he were offered tomorrow. Its easy money for him at this point. It wouldn't be a huge event like DLH's last fight but with some momentum, nice looking wins on both parts, it could sell.

I know junior isn't a big enough draw to make DLH/Mayweather type numbers but that name will sell itself. Its brewing and only in time will this become more and more attractive, especially if DLH goes back to 147.

I don't think that such a fight will interest DLH and I don't think he'll take this fight at all. It's worth nothing for him at this point, he already beat the father twice and wasn't given any credit, what's the point of beating the son who hasn't had a major fight yet and most likely won't(not after 5 or 6 more fights in my opinion). DLH has next year and that's it, don't expect this fight to happen at all. DLH clearly stated that he wants fights that motivate him at this stage, do you think a fight against Chavez Jr.(who's having 10 rounders at this point) is a fight that will motivate him?
He already got enough heat from beating the father back then, he'll just get more for beating the "young" new son.

SweetScienceFan
08-06-2007, 10:17 PM
My god, the man isn't that hell bent on ruining the Chavez family is he? Smack down his father as Oscar was coming up, and then smack down the son on the way out. It would have a nice story line though, and would make some money, so you never know.

Scar
08-06-2007, 10:18 PM
I can totally see this happening in time. If JCC jr. beat ODLH it would be CRAZY. I'd buy the pay-per-view and i have a feeling that PLENTY of other people would as well.

I'll buy the PPV as well for sure but I just don't see this happening and I'll be EXTREMELY shocked if DLH mentions it.

Scar
08-06-2007, 10:21 PM
My god, the man isn't that hell bent on ruining the Chavez family is he? Smack down his father as Oscar was coming up, and then smack down the son on the way out. It would have a nice story line though, and would make some money, so you never know.

That's exactly what I mean. :lol: He'll just be hated more by the Mexican people that already admire both Jr. and Sr. Oscar won't mention a possiblity to fight him but if Jr. does then the chances are high for Oscar to accept and don't expect Jr. to mention it seriously. I'd love to see it but it won't happen.

DoumB
08-06-2007, 10:32 PM
Oscar wont fight him, I mean comon even at this stage of his career he would completly destroy chavez junior who aint on that level at all

Scar
08-06-2007, 10:33 PM
Oscar wont fight him, I mean comon even at this stage of his career he would completly destroy chavez junior who aint on that level at all

And might never be on that level judging by the way he fights after 33 professional fights.

DoumB
08-06-2007, 10:44 PM
And might never be on that level judging by the way he fights after 33 professional fights.

well thats what I think too, I mean the kid seem nice and all but damn does he suck or what?:yep

Lance_Uppercut
08-06-2007, 10:47 PM
Honestly, this wouldn't surprise me down the road a few years. DLH is all about the money, and you can't tell me this would not generate money.

a.arthur.h
08-06-2007, 10:47 PM
Oscar "The Chavez Hunter" De La Hoya

Would be fun to see De La Hoya retire after a fight against him..But Chavez seems content to call out ultra-light hitters like Malignaggi, or completely shot fighters like Gatti at the time being (No offense intended, I'm a fan of Gatti's).

Toopretty
08-06-2007, 10:48 PM
If ODH fights him, the mexicans would denounce him as mexican(after the fight of course) they probably think he can beat oscar. I personally think ODH can beat him without using his right hand. Jr is a generic version of ODH. I know he is a lefty fighting orhtodox, I just know it. He has a faggy right hand. Sometimes he can get some pop off it, the other times it is limp.

41fever
08-06-2007, 10:51 PM
that would be an excellent future bout for them both!

Jose FM
08-06-2007, 10:56 PM
Lemme quote Sugar Ray Leonard, "Its never gonna happen."

Lance_Uppercut
08-06-2007, 11:09 PM
Lemme quote Sugar Ray Leonard, "Its never gonna happen."

Lemme quote DLH, "I LOVE MAKING MONEY OF MY OWN PEOPLE WHO ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY MY EVERY FIGHT!!! MONEY RULES!!!! I'M SO FUCKIN RICH!"

Alright, not a direct quote... :D

digiram
08-06-2007, 11:49 PM
Jr's got to fight some one legit first. C'mon now.

Asterion
08-06-2007, 11:59 PM
Chavez junior would be raped by Oscar.

SweetScienceFan
08-07-2007, 01:02 AM
Some of you people act as if there is something wrong with being in this for the money. I would say that Oscar De La Hoya is obviously in this sport still for his legacy, as well as money. Do you think these guys would box for free? Every man is all about money, especially when you have the ability to make so much. Do you know how addictive that can get? Everytime that you fight, you make millions of dollars. No matter how much money you make, you know that you can fight again and make even more. That would be so hard to pass up. I sure don't see anything wrong with people taking fights for the money, isn't that what people live off of? People take care of their families with? I say, if you can make 40 million dollars fighting someone who you know isn't on your level, DO IT!

C Money
08-07-2007, 01:13 AM
WTF?????



:lol: :lol: :lol:


What's with the Chavez Jr kick????


Jr. cant beat Paulie Malignaggi, let alone EVER dream of facing Oscar!!!
Paulie would slice and dice him, but DLH will Knock him the FUCK OUT....EARLY!!!!

Jr's biggest comp is Wiley and Galvan and all in one day we hear fantasies of PM and DLH??


Shit, I was gone over the weekend but goddamn??? Have I come back to the TWILIGHT ZONE?????

They should let this kid test himself against Alfonso Gomez if they wanna try and step up. Honestly?? I dont see Jr. winning that either but it's at least within the ballpark or reason.

C Money
08-07-2007, 01:15 AM
JC Superstar, in 2 years will be bigger, stronger and faster than Oscar has ever been. Oscar in 2 years will still be fighting, past his prime like Leonard against Camacho. JC Superstar will destroy what is left of the so called "Legend" of Oscar de la Hoya.

You been dropping acid, eating ecstacy, and smoking diesel????


I know you hate DLH, but goddamn man, Jr's a joke:good

JC2006
08-07-2007, 01:40 AM
DLH would humiliate him.

jopez707
08-07-2007, 05:32 PM
There is no point to this fight, maybe in mid 2009; and even then Oscar would have to carry CHavez Jr. a few rounds before knocking him out.

Bazooka
08-07-2007, 05:34 PM
I don't think that such a fight will interest DLH and I don't think he'll take this fight at all. .

I disagree, Oscar will take just about any fight out there if the money is right I mean why wouldnt he? this would be huge in Mexico at Azteca stadium no way will Oscar pass on this fight IMO.

C Money
08-07-2007, 05:52 PM
Try taking DLH's vital organ out of your mouth when you talk, all we hear is muffled noises and sounds of contentment.

:-( :-( :-(


I'm far, far, FAR from a DLH fan you fucking idiot and you should know that by now, however, you're to fucking blind and stubborn to listen to anything other than your own BULLSHIT:good

Jr. hasnt fought ANYONE that even begins to face a top caliber opponent and when you're biggest wins are Wiley and Galvan??

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP AND KEEP UPPER ECHELON NAMES OUT OF YOU'RE PIE HOLE:good

OR?? If you're name is Jack Prescott, you gargle shit, spray, and REPEAT!!


:finger

Sincerely Your's :D

Shake
08-07-2007, 05:55 PM
This fight makes sense for both parties, as it would generate money. It would be the most profitable no-risk fight for Oscar out there and it'd be a good oppertunity for not exactly a stellar talent to have his first big payday.

As for the fight itself, Chavez Jr is younger. Oscar is faster, stronger, possesses better punching technique and footwork, and can win this match with just his jab. That's my take on it, anyway.

Bazooka
08-07-2007, 06:00 PM
Try taking DLH's vital organ out of your mouth when you talk, all we hear is muffled noises and sounds of contentment.

I think Presscot is really Vargas that is the only logical explaination for him to be here all day talking about Oscars man parts, but its not limited to just Oscar, Jack loves to talk about all kinds of dick huh Jack?

C Money
08-07-2007, 06:42 PM
I think Presscot is really Vargas that is the only logical explaination for him to be here all day talking about Oscars man parts, but its not limited to just Oscar, Jack loves to talk about all kinds of dick huh Jack?

Nah.... Vargas is a much better man and more intelligent human being:good Who just also happens to hate DLH.

It's just funny to me, when a clown like Presscott wants to ride my dick because he cant handle objective/reasonable viewpoints. I have no love for DLH but if anyone compares the records and accomplishments of Jr and DLH, it's perfectly CLEAR that Jr in NO WAY compares.

faisal
08-07-2007, 08:53 PM
i love oscar de la hoya

C Money
08-07-2007, 09:35 PM
You mean ride your smelly clit. You have no dick, ask your girlfriend.

:lol:

You're a bitch Presscott, who is it, that you think you're fooling???:?

Not I:nono :nono :nono

WHich fight gave you the impression that Jr. would beat DLH or PM??

Galvan or WILEY???:huh

I'm not suprised you talk of dick so much, as it seems you just cant put your's down, CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl

Toopretty
08-07-2007, 10:08 PM
Damn C money, you and I agree on some shit.. I am telling you the guys JR fights looks like they punch to miss and fight to lose..lol. They dont even have an ounce of determination like if they fight back they get shot after the fight or something..lol

C Money
08-07-2007, 10:14 PM
Damn C money, you and I agree on some shit.. I am telling you the guys JR fights looks like they punch to miss and fight to lose..lol. They dont even have an ounce of determination like if they fight back they get shot after the fight or something..lol


Like I said, I'm beyond the hate, we have different bias's on certain issues, but those dont encompass all that is boxing.

If ya check, I was on this shit before you, anyone hyping Jr. clearly has little understanding of Boxing skill.

DoumB
08-07-2007, 10:31 PM
Like I said, I'm beyond the hate, we have different bias's on certain issues, but those dont encompass all that is boxing.

If ya check, I was on this shit before you, anyone hyping Jr. clearly has little understanding of Boxing skill.

you are an oscarsexual:yep

BobDigi5060
08-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Its only obvious that junior is very raw and quality of opposition is shit. The thing about these two fighting eachother is that they will become magnets when in the same division. I wish I could do some sort of science project to further explain. They haven't even said the others name but once you when you have these two in the same division they begin to walk circles around eachother. Beating Paulie or Alfonso is going to place him junior in the top 10 and we all know DLH would be a top 10 Light Heavy before a fight even took place.

If you were DLH and Chavez was a formidable Welterweight champ or challenger why would you not want to retire against this guy? If Chavez is worth every bit of obstacle and challenge he should be DLH would be a fool not to go out like this. Just as with Fernando Vargas; DLH finds himself with his back against the wall with nothing to do except engage that thorn in his side.

For anyone who didn't know DLH had a sparring session with senior back in 1989. It was said that he had been knocked down in the process. So leading into their fight with all the contrasts at hand it had a big story to begin with. DLH fighting the man's son would double that effect.

Like DLH/Mayweather this fight would have a story outside the ring. Once again a father is brought into the mix and now DLH would find himself in that role. Only instead of a 10 year age difference this would be 13. I know how crazy and offensive that sounds because of junior's record but this makes DLH/Chavez jr just that much more intriguing. If it were to happen two years from now, junior would be the exact same age as DLH when he fought his father.

Let's hope junior remains undefeated while beating a quality opponent because this fight could very well out sell DLH/Mayweather. Oscar will seem like Darth Vader stepping into the ring against junior. The ultimate bad guy and definition of what not to be when you've been that life long JCC fan. Mexican or not.

MagnificentMatt
08-07-2007, 10:51 PM
This may sound nuts, but I do feel they are gearing towards a big big PPV. If DLH sticks around, gets a few Ws next year, Chavez is going to make some noise. Especially if DLH starts to show his age. I still think Chavez is too raw and still may be in a year and a half. With DLH dropping back down in weight, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens sometime late next year. If Chavez remains undefeated and breaks into the top 10, they are only inching towards eachother. You know that at some point, when he and his camp feels he is ready, junior is going to call out DLH. Deep down he wants to fight DLH and is only waiting till victory is almost certain.

Don't be surprised and remember where you heard it first.

I was thinking Mosley and DLH were gonna both have a retirement rubber match for big big money than leave for good... As a Mosley fan id rather Mosley keep going for the young guns for his last 2 years or so..But this is probably what will happen in my opinion..I mean, you know Oscar isnt moving down to fight Floyd..

C Money
08-07-2007, 11:19 PM
you are an oscarsexual:yep

That was sarcasm, I hope!! If so,:lol:

If not?? You dont know me or read much of what I post.
I picked PBF vs DLH, actually suffered a knee injury as i Picked up a friend and hopped around the room in celebration of Hopkins winning, won $1400 when SSM beat DLH the first time, and had $5,000 riding on Trinidad back in the day.

All I do now is respect that DLH reversed the chicken DLH trend and admit he's a respectable fighter.

BTW, it broke my heart when Vargas lost, I lost $700 on that 1, though I'm still well ahead in the $$$ department thanks to DLH.

C Money
08-07-2007, 11:37 PM
Oscar's age, and Malifaggie's lack of testicular fortitude.

:lol: :lol:

Oscar will KO JR inside of 3 and Paulie will box circles around Jr, until the end of 12 or astoppage on cuts.

C Money
08-07-2007, 11:56 PM
In 2009 Chavez. Jr. will force a stoppage of Oscar de la hoya due to cuts, and Paulie will run because cowardice runs in his family. But Paulie will still lose.

And I'll be $70,000,000 dollars richer:lol:

Dare to dream Mr. Presscott, DARE 2 DREAM!!!

C Money
08-09-2007, 01:52 AM
Those things will happen, and your sorry ass will still be on welfare.

Deal with reality, C-Nomoney.


Hey Suck PunkcocK, my finances are just fine, and you're still a bitch, yapping away about nothing:good

Jr. still sucks and when step up time comes?? The 0 will GO!!!
PM or DLH will beat that ass, we can put a little wager on it if and when the time comes. :yep :yep :yep

I'll take you're money, and Fagtime's avatar:hey :hi:

sugarngold
01-12-2008, 03:45 AM
This fight is not happening in our lifetime. De La Hoya is looking to fight the best at this point in his career. Chavez jr doesn't even have his first championship. The only people that would buy this pay per view live south of California.

BigBone
01-12-2008, 04:22 AM
If Oscar wants two fights for his farewell year, an easier and a harder in that order, JCCJr. and Cotto would be a very good choice however if Oscar is hesitating between Cotto and anyone else he should choose Cotto without doubt. Risky fight, but a fight where he can prove himself and even if he loses he can still pick anyone to fight him in September.

So, Oscar should fight Cotto in May but IF he wants an easier opponent first, then Jr. is actually an EXCELLENT choice moneywise. I don’t think I should explain the potential of a promotion for this fight (young vs. old, name vs. name, family revenge etc). If Arum wants to take this HUGE risk, letting his future cash cow fight a true great fighter, we should be more than happy.

But the thing is: a few days ago it was Arum who ruled out a bout between Jr. and Gomez, so Jr. fighting Oscar is not a realistic turn of events at all. And beating Jr. at the stage of Jr.’s career wouldn’t mean too much for Oscar, and it’s DLH who is picking the opponent. Of course beating DLH would mean a LOT to Jr, but it’s not him who decides. So other than money, I don’t think that DLH sees a lot of thing is this match-up. Exciting, yes, could turn out to be a good fight, the names and the promotion is there… but not the best timing… 2 years from now would change everything, but 2008 is looking to be DLH’s last year.



So… it’s not a bad match-up, but Oscar should fight Cotto.

Relentless
01-12-2008, 08:38 AM
oscar de la hoya is the best fighter ever to come out of mexico