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Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 04:07 PM
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Do any British posters here..want Monte Barrett to win..?

I am leaning towards Monte Barrett, because i respect his principles.

David Haye is a nice guy, but i sense he looks down on people or aleast some people. I cannot explain it, i get the same feeling and vibe from Lewis Hamilton.

kosaros
11-13-2008, 04:11 PM
No. Haye is the FUTURE of British boxing, or at least the heavyweights.

Sir James
11-13-2008, 04:12 PM
I am disgusted by this.

It is the British mentality to hate success. To knock people that are at the top and believe in themselves, and know that they are the best.

I dont share that mentality.

I want Haye to take the head off every HW out there and become the undisputed HW champion. Not because he is British, but because he has the winning mentality and the skills to get the job done.

There is still a small question mark over whether he can take a HW punch, that will be answered in this fight because Barrett always takes risks and lands his own shots no matter who the opponent.

GazOC
11-13-2008, 04:15 PM
Nope I hope Haye wins, a British fighter would have to be a real PITA for me to not want him to win.

Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 04:16 PM
No..

I support individuals and principles, i don't care about what nationality or where you are from. And from what i have observed, i am not liking David Haye as much as the other band wagon cock suckers and fickle people....that are out there.

I respect a man with principles that i respect and can relate to, and Monte Barrett is so far in my good books.

David Haye is a talent and it would be a shame if he looses, because boxing does need a new heavyweight.

But i cannot help the way i feel on this situation.

kosaros
11-13-2008, 04:17 PM
Nope I hope Haye wins, a British fighter would have to be a real PITA for me to not want him to win.

The only guy that comes to recent memory is Amir Khan.

kosaros
11-13-2008, 04:19 PM
No..

I support individuals and principles, i don't care about what nationality or where you are from. And from what i have observed, i am not liking David Haye as much as the other band wagon cock suckers and fickle people....that are out there.

I respect a man with principles that i respect and can relate to, and Monte Barrett is so far in my good books.

David Haye is a talent and it would be a shame if he looses, because boxing does need a new heavyweight.

But i cannot help the way i feel on this situation.

I know what you are getting at, Barrett seems like a decent guy with his head screwed on right, but i still want Haye to win because he can inject some excitement into the heavyweight division...plus i do not want to read a frank ****** article if haye were to lose.

GazOC
11-13-2008, 04:21 PM
The only guy that comes to recent memory is Amir Khan.

I didn't mind him TBH, I think he's just a bit thick...

Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 04:23 PM
I know what you are getting at, Barrett seems like a decent guy with his head screwed on right, but i still want Haye to win because he can inject some excitement into the heavyweight division...plus i do not want to read a frank ****** article if haye were to lose.

The part i highlighted is the only reason why i want David Haye to win...that's 1 reason.

But I have got afew reasons...why i want Monte Barrett to win.

And thats just the way i feel, it's a bad situation to be in before a fight.

Decebal
11-13-2008, 04:23 PM
:huh

MR. KOOL, that's not very cool?:nono

kosaros
11-13-2008, 04:25 PM
The part i highlighted is the only reason why i want David Haye to win...that's 1 reason.

But I have got afew reasons...why i want Monte Barrett to win.

And thats just the way i feel, it's a bad situation to be in before a fight.

Well its just how i feel... so we will have to agree to disagree :good

FLINT ISLAND
11-13-2008, 04:25 PM
I'm not one of these haters........................I will not be willing Haye to fail.

However I understand your instincts about Haye and Lewis Hamilton.

A person might talk and behave in a text book good way (Lewis Hamilton) but somehow at a deeper level you sense a bit of a CUNT there.

To be honest - I never thought bad of Hamilton until you raised the issue
But you are probaly right - go with your instincts - they sense things on a deeper level than your logic mind

Lewis Hamilton may well be a snobby nosed CUNT

As for Haye .....................I dont think Haye is a text book CUNT

He is just a ......................COCK.........................sometimes a TOTAL COCK

He loves himself

He poses in Male Model Stances

He has Glamour Women around him..............to validate his Playboy Status

And he thinks he is the best at everything

He is a KNOB

If he gets knocked out..............I woudnt give a SHITE

However I wont be dying to see him lose either

I want him to fight WLAD and Vitali

so he has to get past Monte

However if MONTE were to KO Haye.................Good for MONTE

If Haye KO's MOnte....................Good for Haye - now fight the Kiltishkos

If he fights the Klitshkos then yes - I would like to see Haye be humbled at this point .................and have his arse handed to him

Vitali will KO him.............I'm very confident of that

If the fight takes place next year

Vitali will KO

It was enjoyable to see Carl Thompson beat Haye.........as Haye was super loving himself back then too

He has recovered well from that............and his ego has swelled again

Some will say.....................fucking hell whats your problem............a person is confident in himself and talks himself up , etc, etc

Yes that is the way of boxing

But it is on a deeper level..............that you cant really explain too deeply in words.................that explains wether you like or dislike someone

Haye is a COCK thats my opinion

He is OK at times...........but the underlying feeling is............this guy is a a KNOB

Sir James
11-13-2008, 04:26 PM
The only guy that comes to recent memory is Amir Khan.

Ahmen- in Khan's case he was the hype job to end all hype jobs, and being told he was something else really pissed everyone off.

Back to topic, the last time I checked.

You win nothing for being a nice well rounded guy.

You win because of your talent, your training and what you do in the ring.

I judge a fighter solely on that.

Sometimes the most successful people are not very nice human beings (in Haye's case arrogant), sometimes that is part of their success.

Everytime Monte has taken the step up he has failed.

The HW division needs Haye.


Haye is going to stop Barrett.

Sir James
11-13-2008, 04:28 PM
I think that part of this hate for Haye is jeaolousy here. Jeaolous of his money, his looks and his women, and the fact he boasts about it. People need to get over it. Judge him on what he does in the ring.

FLINT ISLAND
11-13-2008, 04:32 PM
I think that part of this hate for Haye is jeaolousy here. Jeaolous of his money, his looks and his women, and the fact he boasts about it. People need to get over it. Judge him on what he does in the ring.


this thread is not debating the ability in the ring that Haye has

this thread is to express the feelings from the hearts of men

do you want someone to suceed or fail

a mother wants her son to suceed ..........even if he has no ability

a person who dislikes another wants to see them fail.................even if he is the most talented person ever

its all about the feelings that come from the hearts of men

GazOC
11-13-2008, 04:34 PM
No..

I support individuals and principles, i don't care about what nationality or where you are from. And from what i have observed, i am not liking David Haye as much as the other band wagon cock suckers and fickle people....that are out there.

I respect a man with principles that i respect and can relate to, and Monte Barrett is so far in my good books.

David Haye is a talent and it would be a shame if he looses, because boxing does need a new heavyweight.

But i cannot help the way i feel on this situation.
How well do you know either man, esp. Barrett? Their "principles" as you loftily call them? I knew it wouldn't be too long before someone got on their high horse about following boxers based on nationality.

JIM KELLY
11-13-2008, 04:38 PM
I love to hear Bunce's view on this charade!

BIG WORM
11-13-2008, 04:42 PM
nah, monte barrets just complaining

faisal
11-13-2008, 04:50 PM
mr.kool#s the best poster on esb

toffeejack
11-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Yes I want Barrett to knock the arrogant fucker spark out.

Shizzle
11-13-2008, 04:57 PM
I met Haye a few months ago, had my picture taken and got to chat to him for a while - top bloke.

I want him to destroy Barrett, then the Klitschko's. He's the future the boxing world needs.

Heavyweights are crying out for a brash fighter who can promote himself and the sport. Haye does that and people turn against him, it's bizarre.

ScouseLad
11-13-2008, 05:02 PM
Do any British posters here..want Monte Barrett to win..?

I am leaning towards Monte Barrett, because i respect his principles.

David Haye is a nice guy, but i sense he looks down on people or aleast some people. I cannot explain it, i get the same feeling and vibe from Lewis Hamilton.

He's a bellend, moaning about only having £30 a day from Haye's lot to eat on? What a beaut!

I hope he gets iced and he will.

I dont think Haye looks down on anybody either, I think you're mistaking his self confidence for that. He comes across as a top fella to me.

trotter
11-13-2008, 05:10 PM
I don't give a bollocks for all this 'I support boxers for their style / personality / principles' guff which ends up with Brits cheering on the foreign fighter

I support the British fighter, it's the way I was raised

Inevitably some people will start hating on Haye now though and the numbers will rise the more success he has. Going against the grain makes some people feel intellectually superior, never understood it myself.

GazOC
11-13-2008, 05:19 PM
I don't give a bollocks for all this 'I support boxers for their style / personality / principles' guff which ends up with Brits cheering on the foreign fighter

I support the British fighter, it's the way I was raised

Inevitably some people will start hating on Haye now though and the numbers will rise the more success he has. Going against the grain makes some people feel intellectually superior, never understood it myself.

:good

crespo21
11-13-2008, 05:21 PM
NOPE come on the hayemaker.

Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 05:23 PM
I don't give a bollocks for all this 'I support boxers for their style / personality / principles' guff which ends up with Brits cheering on the foreign fighter

I support the British fighter, it's the way I was raised

Inevitably some people will start hating on Haye now though and the numbers will rise the more success he has. Going against the grain makes some people feel intellectually superior, never understood it myself.


Then you have not been raised..

You have been brainwashed..!

It's about supporting the individual, not the country, or where your from.

It's about supporting principles, and morals.

That's what wins over real people, David Haye is just the flavour of the month. If he is beaten in this fight 30% of his fans will care and 70% will move on.

Decebal
11-13-2008, 05:26 PM
I don't give a bollocks for all this 'I support boxers for their style / personality / principles' guff which ends up with Brits cheering on the foreign fighter

I support the British fighter, it's the way I was raised

Inevitably some people will start hating on Haye now though and the numbers will rise the more success he has. Going against the grain makes some people feel intellectually superior, never understood it myself.

I agree with this sentiment; you don't have to be a massive fan of your countrymen, of course, but unless they're total twats or utter hypejobs who completely overshadow more deserving homegrown fighters, why would you not at least support your local boys?:huh

Haye strikes me as a good guy and likable fellow; he's certainly good for boxing, British and world-wide...I just cannot fault him, even if I tried...why would anyone want him to fail, especially if you're British?:huh

Hamilton? Only thing I dislike about him is that he covers himself in the flag but lives abroad in order not to pay British taxes, from his absolutely massive income. That, I just cannot stomach. If he had been born in Romania or even in Switzerland, it's unlikely he'd have become who he is today. The least he could do is pay his taxes like all his supporters who fly around the world to support him...but that's another discussion...

Go, David!!!:happy

steelem
11-13-2008, 05:33 PM
Then you have not been raised..

You have been brainwashed..!

It's about supporting the individual, not the country, or where your from.

It's about supporting principles, and morals.

That's what wins over real people, David Haye is just the flavour of the month. If he is beaten in this fight 30% of his fans will care and 70% will move on.

your right

It's about supporting principles, and morals.

david haye to win

GazOC
11-13-2008, 05:39 PM
Then you have not been raised..

You have been brainwashed..!

It's about supporting the individual, not the country, or where your from.

It's about supporting principles, and morals.

That's what wins over real people, David Haye is just the flavour of the month. If he is beaten in this fight 30% of his fans will care and 70% will move on.

You don't know Barretts or Hayes principle or morals though do you? Get off your high horse.....

Anthony Farnell
11-13-2008, 05:44 PM
Exactly, you don't actually know the real principles and morals of anyone unless you know them closely.
David Haye plays an act at times that boxers sometimes have to do.
You can tell this from the different interviews he does.
If he's being interviewed at a fund raising event for a boxing gym or something then he's completely different to the act he portrays to sell himself as a boxer.

Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 05:46 PM
You don't know Barretts or Hayes principle or morals though do you? Get off your high horse.....

I know far too much..

steelem
11-13-2008, 05:48 PM
:good

wrong with the british thing gazoc i ffin hate khan

Decebal
11-13-2008, 05:51 PM
You don't know Barretts or Hayes principle or morals though do you? Get off your high horse.....

Even if he did...is this a boxing forum or a Lives of the Saints forum?:huh

GazOC
11-13-2008, 05:54 PM
wrong with the british thing gazoc i ffin hate khan

I didn't say I support ALL British fighters without question, just that I have to have a VERY good reason not to.

FLINT ISLAND
11-13-2008, 05:55 PM
Everyone loved Bruno

and he was a scumbag wife beater

so it just shows immoral people are quite often popular

Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 05:58 PM
I am not saying David Haye's a bad person..

And i would support him in the future if he wins this fight..

But as it stands right now, press conferences are there for fighters to convince the public.


That they are gonna win..
That they are the fighter you should supportMonte "Two Guns" Barrett has convinced me on number 2, by expressing his principles with a hint of his personality. And Number 2 is a powerful..powerful principle in life.

Primadonna Kool
11-13-2008, 06:05 PM
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GazOC
11-13-2008, 06:07 PM
Everyone loved Bruno

and he was a scumbag wife beater

so it just shows immoral people are quite often popular

That didn't come to light until way after Brunos retirement.

Mr Kool, if you like Barrett because of his personality or the way he comes across then thats fair enough but I just think the whole "principles and morals" line was OTT.

steelem
11-13-2008, 06:11 PM
I didn't say I support ALL British fighters without question, just that I have to have a VERY good reason not to.

you didnt say but a thumbs up to the post was enuff for me to react - no worries

Quote:
Originally Posted by trotter
I don't give a bollocks for all this 'I support boxers for their style / personality / principles' guff which ends up with Brits cheering on the foreign fighter

I support the British fighter, it's the way I was raised

Inevitably some people will start hating on Haye now though and the numbers will rise the more success he has. Going against the grain makes some people feel intellectually superior, never understood it myself.


:good

Sir James
11-13-2008, 06:12 PM
Who is anyone here to "judge" a person in the public eye, who they do not personally as an undesirable person?

As someone mentioned about Bruno, dont judge a book by its cover, and dont pretend you know someone just because you have heard some rumours and have seen them on TV.

Decebal
11-13-2008, 06:14 PM
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Is the whole video in slow motion, or is it just me?:p

FLINT ISLAND
11-13-2008, 06:23 PM
Who is anyone here to "judge" a person in the public eye, who they do not personally as an undesirable person?

As someone mentioned about Bruno, dont judge a book by its cover, and dont pretend you know someone just because you have heard some rumours and have seen them on TV.


I think it is fair to judge a person up to a certain point on seeing them on TV

why not?

that is them on TV a real human being - and you get a real impression on what they are like and the type of energy surrounding them

just because they are not in the flesh

you are not looking at a cardboard cut out - that is a real human being

Robbi
11-13-2008, 06:23 PM
I fully expect Haye to spark this kid inside 3 rounds.

kieron
11-13-2008, 07:22 PM
I think the last post sums it up. I can't believe people can't see that Haye is just playing the media game to hype things up, raise his profile and earn more money. It's textbook American behaviour. We shouldn't blame him for it, just go along for the ride. He's probably the UK's best chance for worldwide success in boxing so we should all support him imo.

JonOli
11-13-2008, 08:46 PM
There seem to be far more knockers then supports at the moment so I'm behind Haye on this one, and I'd like to see him face Wlad.

GazOC
11-13-2008, 08:58 PM
There seem to be far more knockers then supports at the moment so I'm behind Haye on this one, and I'd like to see him face Wlad.

A lots changed around here in the last 12-18 months, he was poster boy for the "true boxing fans" (no names, no pack drill;)) at one time.

surreal deal
11-13-2008, 09:06 PM
I didn't mind him TBH, I think he's just a bit thick...
:lol: :lol: Made me laugh for some reason Gaz.

mrbassie
11-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Don't want Barrett to win. I don't really care how Hayr comes across, fact is he's always done it te right way, shut ****** out, no wbu/wbo bollocks, took risks, looked for tough fights. I've slagged off certain super-popular british boxers fr years for fighting no-names from lower weightclasses etc. Haye's setting a great example and showing certain people up and so I really hope he succeeds at heavy

Sir James
11-14-2008, 01:46 AM
I think the last post sums it up. I can't believe people can't see that Haye is just playing the media game to hype things up, raise his profile and earn more money. It's textbook American behaviour. We shouldn't blame him for it, just go along for the ride. He's probably the UK's best chance for worldwide success in boxing so we should all support him imo.

This post is where the money is at.

It backs up my theory, that your perceptions of the guy are based on what you see on TV, and his behaviour on TV is designed to generate interest to sell fight tickets...it is not actually the real him.

Perceptions are not reality...

John18
11-14-2008, 04:01 AM
Don't want Barrett to win. I don't really care how Hayr comes across, fact is he's always done it te right way, shut ****** out, no wbu/wbo bollocks, took risks, looked for tough fights. I've slagged off certain super-popular british boxers fr years for fighting no-names from lower weightclasses etc. Haye's setting a great example and showing certain people up and so I really hope he succeeds at heavy


What he said.

Haye should be applauded for trying to do things the right way.

Primadonna Kool
11-14-2008, 08:08 AM
27-TM3q5-Cc

:lol:

dwilson
11-14-2008, 08:12 AM
I want Haye to win but I will want Wlad to win if the fight ever happens.

zulander
11-14-2008, 08:15 AM
haye all the way.
1 more win over the bleating blinkerd yanks will do nicely

DamonD
11-14-2008, 08:40 AM
No, I quite like Monte actually but I most definitely want Haye to win this one...hopefully looking very good as he does so.

TFFP
11-14-2008, 09:02 AM
No. Barrett is a journeyman. If he beats Haye his heavyweight career is over before it got started, and its another nail in the coffin of excitement at heavyweight.

alba
11-14-2008, 09:03 AM
I WANT HAYE TO WIN.I LIKE THE WAY HE SEEMS TO HAVE THIS VISION OF 'CLEARING UP THE HEAVYWEIGHTS'

i dunno what mr Kool is on about (is this guy serious?) is on aBOUT .BARRET JUST LOOKS LIK A PRIMaddona to me.which is ashame because in his earlier press confrnces /bunces boxing hour he came across as a level headed bloke.

Bomber_uk
11-14-2008, 09:41 AM
I WANT HAYE TO WIN.I LIKE THE WAY HE SEEMS TO HAVE THIS VISION OF 'CLEARING UP THE HEAVYWEIGHTS'

i dunno what mr Kool is on about (is this guy serious?) is on aBOUT .BARRET JUST LOOKS LIK A PRIMaddona to me.which is ashame because in his earlier press confrnces /bunces boxing hour he came across as a level headed bloke.

Are you pissed reilly :lol:

Brummy1976
11-15-2008, 01:47 PM
I agree with this sentiment; you don't have to be a massive fan of your countrymen, of course, but unless they're total twats or utter hypejobs who completely overshadow more deserving homegrown fighters, why would you not at least support your local boys?:huh

Haye strikes me as a good guy and likable fellow; he's certainly good for boxing, British and world-wide...I just cannot fault him, even if I tried...why would anyone want him to fail, especially if you're British?:huh

Hamilton? Only thing I dislike about him is that he covers himself in the flag but lives abroad in order not to pay British taxes, from his absolutely massive income. That, I just cannot stomach. If he had been born in Romania or even in Switzerland, it's unlikely he'd have become who he is today. The least he could do is pay his taxes like all his supporters who fly around the world to support him...but that's another discussion...

Go, David!!!:happyI can't blame anyone for moving abroad to save hundreds of millions of pounds, that really is stretching it.This country is going down the pan.Are you happy for what you receive for paying your taxes ?????? No offence here to you mate, and i appreciate its another discussion...

Claypole
11-15-2008, 01:56 PM
Although I want Haye to win, I've got a sneaky £5 on Monte to score an 8th round stoppage at 50/1.

Claypole
11-15-2008, 01:58 PM
This country is going down the pan.Are you happy for what you receive for paying your taxes ??????Lewis Hamilton didn't do too bad from this country.

SouthpawSlayer
11-15-2008, 02:09 PM
haye comes across as a nice guy, and i hope he wins tonight

wouldnt you be a cocky fucker too if you had unified the cruiserweight's by koing all the opposition

FLINT ISLAND
11-15-2008, 02:12 PM
haye comes across as a nice guy, and i hope he wins tonight

wouldnt you be a cocky fucker too if you had unified the cruiserweight's by koing all the opposition


MAYBE

However I remeber he was loving himself up until he fought Carl Thompson...................then he got his arse handed to him.

History will probaly repeat itself at some point.........................probaly by a unheralded heavyweight who can stand up to him


The first person who can stand up to Hayes punches and hits him back beats him:deal

Frogemeni could have but he was a very weak puncher

JonOli
11-15-2008, 02:34 PM
Although I want Haye to win, I've got a sneaky £5 on Monte to score an 8th round stoppage at 50/1.

You can get 70/1 on betfair - though if you pick up 250 quid I'm sure you wont feel too grieved.

Claypole
11-15-2008, 02:45 PM
You can get 70/1 on betfair - though if you pick up 250 quid I'm sure you wont feel too grieved.It's more likely to happen at my odds, though!

Ilesey
11-15-2008, 03:01 PM
Nah, I'll be pulling for Haye on this one. I was never a fan of his at the start but I like the idea behind of heavyweight assault.

El Cepillo
11-15-2008, 03:03 PM
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Do any British posters here..want Monte Barrett to win..?

I am leaning towards Monte Barrett, because i respect his principles.

David Haye is a nice guy, but i sense he looks down on people or aleast some people. I cannot explain it, i get the same feeling and vibe from Lewis Hamilton.

I can honestly say that their is absolutely not similarity whatsoever between David Haye and Lewis Hamilton.
I really don't understand this comparison.
Lewis Hamilton seems like the most humble, respectful guy. Every single interview I see of him he prasies his teammates, his family, his fans. The last interview I saw with him, he said that he thinks about how blessed his life is, every single day, and that he feels so lucky. Honestly mate, I don't understand how anyone could say anything negative about Hamilton's personality, do people except him to be a nervous, shy, unsure of himself World Champion?

El Cepillo
11-15-2008, 03:05 PM
I'm backing Haye, as long as he can back all the talk up with impressive wins and performances, then I will back him, if he is just all mouth and no trousers, then he can feck off.

JonOli
11-15-2008, 03:26 PM
It's more likely to happen at my odds, though!

lol, True.

Doppleganger
11-15-2008, 03:54 PM
I fully expect Haye to spark this kid inside 3 rounds.
Lol, how old are you Robbi? Actually, you sound a little like Ritchie Woodhall.

I'll be rooting for the Hayemaker myself. Whatever else he's doing, he's injecting a little bit of excitement back into British heavyweight boxing.

JonOli
11-15-2008, 09:42 PM
:party

Now we possibly get a big night of boxing with either Vitali, or Wlad.

JonOli
11-15-2008, 09:56 PM
Hamilton alway says what he has been programed to say - he always tows the media savy line.

Felix Sanchez
11-15-2008, 09:56 PM
I can honestly say that their is absolutely not similarity whatsoever between David Haye and Lewis Hamilton.

Agreed. One is world champion purely based on his ability. The other reliant upon a superior car than his competitors. :deal

Primadonna Kool
11-16-2008, 10:09 AM
Well done Mr David Haye..