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laxpdx
11-13-2008, 07:42 PM
Tommy was Tommy, but Mustafa was a solid natural MW...

Raging B(_)LL
11-13-2008, 07:48 PM
I think this fight would play out much the same way Tommy`s bout vs Doug Dewitt did. Tommy is gonna land plenty on the iron chinned Hamsho only to realise this guy ain`t going nowhere, so he will revert to boxing and keeping him at arms lenght while dropping in the occasional bomb late in the fight to see if he just might be able to crack that chin of his.

But to be fair to Hamsho he ain`t going to go quietly and I wouldn`t be surprised if he stunned Tommy a few times, he could punch pretty good after all even though he was mainly an arm puncher and he was a very strong guy too which means Tommy would be well served to avoid getting too up close and personal with the Syrian toughman. Tommy on points for me.

WhataRock
11-13-2008, 08:03 PM
Definitely a fighter with the attributes to upset Hearns. But whether he upsets him enough for a win, I dont know... I dont think so more times then not.

Like what Raging said, Hearns outpoints him. I think a pretty wide decision in the end.

birddog
11-13-2008, 09:04 PM
I think Tommy certainly has the ability to take Hamsho out at middle. Hagler did it twice and doesn't hit as hard as Tommy. True Marv is more rough and tumble than Hearns, but tommy has better footspeed, handspeed, power and range.

Hamsho also isn't as hard a hitter as Barclay was, or had the guns or skill to go at Tommy like Marv did. I would also argue that Roldan was a harder match than Hamsho would be.

I think Hamsho may have some moments, when he could bull Hearns, but not the power to do any damage. I see either Hamsho getting carved up like a turkey (like hagler 1), or getting taken out like in Hagler 2.

Tommy all the was from my assessment, I just see styles, level of skills, punching power as being too much to overcome, for Hamsho. He unlike Hags, Barclay wouldn't be able to exploit Hearns flaws, his hard chin wouldn't be enough. And Hamsho's chin was there to be hit.

If Hearns broke his hand and gassed then maybe. There's always a maybe.

he grant
11-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Hearns big ....

GazOC
11-13-2008, 09:11 PM
The first thing I thought when I saw the thread title was "Hearns-DeWitt" but I see Raging beat me too it.

JohnThomas1
11-15-2008, 10:26 AM
Hearns would slice his face to ribbons, and Hamsho is very light on power. Hearns by kickarse.

Doppleganger
11-15-2008, 04:40 PM
Tommy by WIDE decision or even a TKO. You can't say that any fighter, Hagler aside, is guaranteed to go the distance with Tommy. He's shattered jaws that were previously thought to be solid steel, the most obvious example of this being Duran. Hamsho does not have the power to really trouble Hearns either so I can't really make a case for Hamsho having much of a chance.

JohnThomas1
11-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Tommy by WIDE decision or even a TKO. You can't say that any fighter, Hagler aside, is guaranteed to go the distance with Tommy. He's shattered jaws that were previously thought to be solid steel, the most obvious example of this being Duran. Hamsho does not have the power to really trouble Hearns either so I can't really make a case for Hamsho having much of a chance.

I think a cuts stoppage is odds on actually. Imagine Hearns slashing punches on Hamsho's tender skin. Mustafa's bull rushes would be akward at times but i see Hearns raking him early.

redrooster
11-16-2008, 01:51 AM
Tommy early and Hamsho late. Tommy would be running into a fighter that had the bad habit of never losing. I see Tommy fading after about 6 rounds or even sooner and Hamsho getting stronger. This is the pattern with both fighters.

Watch them and see if I am right. In the leonard fight it happened and Hamsho is far more effective at putting pressure on. Then watch the Kinchen fight. James almost put Tommy away in four. Roldan was within an inch of knocking him out. Only because Juan dropped his hands and let Tommy hit him, did he win the fight.

The Minchillo fight-another close one. Hamsho's style would be too awkward for him to handle and Tommy just doesnt have the experience or the sustained physiology to keep up with these types of roughhousers.


Hamsho beats on a fading Hearns at the bell and wins a clear decision

markedwardscott
12-08-2008, 07:40 PM
Hearns would pound out a decision.

he grant
12-08-2008, 07:48 PM
Hamsho was very strong and tough but not a knock out puncher ... he was a crude but effective mauler who beat many decent fighters but was massacared by Hagler twice, in two different fashions. Hamsho was much better than DeWitt and could give Hearns problems because Tommy always had potential for stamina issues as well as chin issues ...

I'd pick Hearns by decision or even a KO but would not bet it ...

Titan1
01-04-2010, 11:30 PM
I think Mustafa mauls Tommy until Tommy lands the big one and probably coldcocks him, the only fighter to do so.

Mr Butt
01-05-2010, 07:28 AM
hearns by wide ud or even a cuts stoppage around the 11th expect hamsho to eat jabs all night and take some huge right hands

anarci
01-05-2010, 08:31 AM
Definitely a fighter with the attributes to upset Hearns. But whether he upsets him enough for a win, I dont know... I dont think so more times then not.

Like what Raging said, Hearns outpoints him. I think a pretty wide decision in the end. I really dont see him having the attributes to beat Hearns here he was short,average power,not the fastest guy. All things a guy like Tommy would take advantage of. I think Tommy busts him up and stops him on cuts around the 9th or so, and stylistically i dont think he would have to much of a hard time doing so.

anarci
01-05-2010, 08:36 AM
Tommy early and Hamsho late. Tommy would be running into a fighter that had the bad habit of never losing. I see Tommy fading after about 6 rounds or even sooner and Hamsho getting stronger. This is the pattern with both fighters.

Watch them and see if I am right. In the leonard fight it happened and Hamsho is far more effective at putting pressure on. Then watch the Kinchen fight. James almost put Tommy away in four. Roldan was within an inch of knocking him out. Only because Juan dropped his hands and let Tommy hit him, did he win the fight.

The Minchillo fight-another close one. Hamsho's style would be too awkward for him to handle and Tommy just doesnt have the experience or the sustained physiology to keep up with these types of roughhousers.


Hamsho beats on a fading Hearns at the bell and wins a clear decision You seem to pick against any fighter that Leonard beat:-( Another thing Hamsho couldnt really punch. Where as guys like Kinchen and Roldan were big punchers. Besides Hearns was already on the down side by the time he fought Kinchen. The Minchillo fight wasnt close either. This is an easy fight for Hearns.

Very bad analogy:-(

JohnThomas1
01-05-2010, 08:52 AM
You seem to pick against any fighter that Leonard beat:-( Another thing Hamsho couldnt really punch. Where as guys like Kinchen and Roldan were big punchers. Besides Hearns was already on the down side by the time he fought Kinchen. The Minchillo fight wasnt close either. This is an easy fight for Hearns.

Very bad analogy:-(

The Minchillo fight was a shutout on two cards even with Hearns a teeny bit gun shy of the recently injured right hand. Only Rooter could call a fight like that close.

Kinchen vs Hearns actually tested positive for lidocaine and there was a bit of drama.

Hearns speed, power and massive skill advantage would carve Hamsho up. As for Roosters Roldan dropping his hands excuse, well no-one is easier to hit than Hamsho.

The Morlocks
01-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Tommy early and Hamsho late. Tommy would be running into a fighter that had the bad habit of never losing. I see Tommy fading after about 6 rounds or even sooner and Hamsho getting stronger. This is the pattern with both fighters.

Watch them and see if I am right. In the leonard fight it happened and Hamsho is far more effective at putting pressure on. Then watch the Kinchen fight. James almost put Tommy away in four. Roldan was within an inch of knocking him out. Only because Juan dropped his hands and let Tommy hit him, did he win the fight.

The Minchillo fight-another close one. Hamsho's style would be too awkward for him to handle and Tommy just doesnt have the experience or the sustained physiology to keep up with these types of roughhousers.


Hamsho beats on a fading Hearns at the bell and wins a clear decision
Right on! Mustafa takes the shots, keeps the pressure on , hits to the body hard (that is what conquered Benitez, Hamsho digging to the body and hurting him early and Wilfredo not wanting to not have the ropes to fall back on when it happened again.) and wears him down for a ko. Hagler did so good against him because hamsho is more open to hooks than straight punches.:rasta

he grant
01-05-2010, 12:24 PM
Hearns by decision or later stopage ... a ko is possible ..