Haye weighed in at 15 stone 4lbs

[mrplow182]

that's lighter than the Bonin fight.......

[robpalmer135]

215lbs

[Grant1]

Edit.......

[Primadonna Kool]

175

[Tuffnutz]

He should look ripped. More ripped than the Bonin weigh in.

[dwilson]

140lbs?

[Tuffnutz]

140lbs?nice ass :blurp

[dwilson]

nice ass :blurp


Its not mine...

[Tuffnutz]

Its not mine...

I never said it was.

[Jimbo]

Encouraging that Haye hasn't bulked up for the sake of it.

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"I made sure that I didn't make of just piling on the pounds," Haye told Setanta Sports News. "I haven't even checked the scales all week. I was looking to weigh what I weighed.

"This is my weight at the present time, I'll probably put on a little weight as I go on, but I wasn't going to just put on two or three stone for the sake of it.

"It's a solid stone I've put on and you'll see that tomorrow night.

"A lot of what I'm being doing is focusing on being comfortable with big guys putting pressure on me. I feel very comfortable now - you'll see that tomorrow night.

[Boxing Gloves]

Not that we should read much into it, but 16st2 for Barrett, is the second heaviest he's ever been (he was 1lb heavier in the ko loss to couser).

[TFFP]

Barrett obviously feels like he has to put on more weight to absorb Haye's punches. The Danny Williams tactic as it should be known. Encouraging signs for Haye.

Also encouraging is that he didn't do as I expected and let his ego take over. Very sensible weight.

[kurt2006]

Haye should have done a Williams trick and put weight some ankle weights.

[ishy]

Good that he hasn't bulked up too much. I was worrying Haye would come in near the 230 mark. 215-220 is good.

[Hagler/Pryor]

Anything just under 217 which he weighed in at for Bonin sounds ideal to me. Let's hope that Haye comes in as fast and sharp as expected at this weight.

[JonOli]

It's good that he will hopefully keep his speed. If he weighs this against Wlad though he's going to come in a possible two and a half stone lighter then him.

[Spud565]

It's good that he will hopefully keep his speed. If he weighs this against Wlad though he's going to come in a possible two and a half stone lighter then him.

Yeah I was thinking that. He'll need to go up to the early 220's against wlad. The guy will be too big and strong otherwise!

[ishy]

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[DamonD]

"Mr. Haye, just where is your underwear? People are staring!"

[TFFP]

What do people mean Wlad will be too big and strong? :?

How is being 230lbs going to help Haye against Wlad? What do you think he's going to do, try and rugby tackle him?

His only chance against Wlad is to land big shots, and the only chance he has of getting past Wlad's jab is with speed and head movement. Being 15lbs heavier certainly won't help.

[DamonD]

Would help him in the clinch and with extra punching weight though...we'll have to see how he does against Barrett in terms of carrying his weight up. If he can hurt Barrett, then he'll be fine.

[TFFP]

If Haye needs to do something in a clinch he has no chance. Wlad is too strong whether he weighs 230lbs of which 15lbs is unnatural, or whether he weights 215-220. Wlad only uses clinches as a defensive measure, so if hes clinching Haye is doing well. But to get close enough I think he needs the speed.

I'm not convinced adding that sort of weight aids punching power. It's been proven time and time again, the biggest punchers have speed. The loss of speed is likely to offset anything else gained from adding weight.

[JonOli]

Yea, it's a tough one.

It is odd though that Haye stated he was going away for 6 months to really bulk up big time into a true heavy then comes back carrying just a stone more. I get the feeling there must have been a change of plan somewhere - or perhaps the weight didn't suit him. Then again perhaps he was just talking balonie...

[JonOli]

What do people mean Wlad will be too big and strong? :?

How is being 230lbs going to help Haye against Wlad? What do you think he's going to do, try and rugby tackle him?


It's funny you should say that but Wlads clinches nowadays are kind of scrum like in a way.

As you say, Haye needs to stay away from any clinch...

[Diablo]

He looked a bit soft at the Bonin weigh in (well for Haye anyway).

This time hes added a stone of solid muscle.

[scurlaruntings]

This means simply that Haye is still a cruiserweight.. An extra stone is not someone struggling to make 200lbs. Props for going up in weight to look for the bigger challenges but Haye isnt a heavyweight.

I weighed in at 17st 3 today and im a 2 inchs shorter than Haye. Theres no way on this planet i could make 200lbs. Now thats a heavyweight! :-)

[scurlaruntings]

or fat?

Kidding... :D No fat here dude. My bf is 14%. Not bad even if i say so myself! *cough *cough..

[donizhere]

He's fighting heavyweights in a HW bout , which is enough to consider him HW.

[rydersonthestorm]

This means simply that Haye is still a cruiserweight.. An extra stone is not someone struggling to make 200lbs. Props for going up in weight to look for the bigger challenges but Haye isnt a heavyweight.

I weighed in at 17st 3 today and im a 2 inchs shorter than Haye. Theres no way on this planet i could make 200lbs. Now thats a heavyweight! :-)
thats not really very accurate is it, why do you have to be a big lump to be a heavyweight most of the best guys have been under 225.

[Cobbler]

This means simply that Haye is still a cruiserweight.. An extra stone is not someone struggling to make 200lbs. Props for going up in weight to look for the bigger challenges but Haye isnt a heavyweight.



Much of the heavyweight division are actually cruiserweights. They just make up the extra weight with fat. David Haye is what used to be called a heavyweight.

[Tuffnutz]

Look at Ibragimov weighing 219 in the pic below. He's supposed to be 6'2 too which is the same height as Holyfield.

Holy is only just over 211 here too.

I reckon Ibragimov could make cruiserweight.

Haye is ripped at 215.

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[scurlaruntings]

Much of the heavyweight division are actually cruiserweights. They just make up the extra weight with fat. David Haye is what used to be called a heavyweight.This is very true. Im not saying Haye MUST be 230 plus all im saying is by todays standards against the giants like Vitali Vlad Valuev and maybe even Rahman Haye is quite small.

[rydersonthestorm]

Look at Ibragimov weighing 219 in the pic below. He's supposed to be 6'2 too which is the same height as Holyfield.

Holy is only just over 211 here too.

I reckon Ibragimov could make cruiserweight.

Haye is ripped at 215.

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sultan must only be 5-10 as i am around 6-2 and was abit taller than the real deal when i met him in liverpool.

[Sundance]

Ibragimov looks any other podgy white guy, hardly an elite athlete.

[Jimbo]

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:think

[icemax]

Much of the heavyweight division are actually cruiserweights. They just make up the extra weight with fat. David Haye is what used to be called a heavyweight.

Spot on :good Liston was considered a beast at 215-220

[scurlaruntings]

Spot on :good Liston was considered a beast at 215-220This he was but so was Jack Johnson who was referred to as a "giant" hence his nickname the Galveston Giant. During his prime he weighed barely over 190lbs. Times have changed.

[icemax]

I weighed in at 17st 3 today and im a 2 inchs shorter than Haye. Theres no way on this planet i could make 200lbs. Now thats a heavyweight! :-)

Lighweight!! At the end of march I weighed 251, but carried it quite well....although I felt quite sluggish. By the end of August I weighed 185, but have managed to put 10 back on in a very controlled manner and feel absolutely fantastic.

[kieron]

This means simply that Haye is still a cruiserweight.. An extra stone is not someone struggling to make 200lbs. Props for going up in weight to look for the bigger challenges but Haye isnt a heavyweight.

I weighed in at 17st 3 today and im a 2 inchs shorter than Haye. Theres no way on this planet i could make 200lbs. Now thats a heavyweight! :-)

In an interview with Buncy a a couple of months back he weighed 16st 8lbs with 12% bodyfat. He has boiled down to 15st 4 as you can see in that pic. Single figure bodyfat % for sure. Doesn't sound like a natural cruiser to me. he is a natural smallish heavyweight. Ali was 6'3" and 215 at his peak. Even big guys like Foreman and Holmes weighed around this mark at their best.

[achillesthegreat]

Very happy to hear this. Haye should hopefully retain his speed etc but without the dry out thus stamina, reflexes should all be better.

I don't want to see him past 222 and I'd like the extra weight on the legs.

[dwilson]

This he was but so was Jack Johnson who was referred to as a "giant" hence his nickname the Galveston Giant. During his prime he weighed barely over 190lbs. Times have changed.


But I would still take the old greats at around 200/210lbs to beat the modern fat bastard heavies.

[scurlaruntings]

But I would still take the old greats at around 200/210lbs to beat the modern fat bastard heavies.Most definitly. I was watching Ali vs Frazier one the other day and explaining to the Missus how small those heavies were back then in comparison to now. ( we watched Danny Williams recently and her response was "WTF is that!" )

[dwilson]

Most definitly. I was watching Ali vs Frazier one the other day and explaining to the Missus how small those heavies were back then in comparison to now. ( we watched Danny Williams recently and her response was "WTF is that!" )




Yep. I find it hard to get my head around how small the old fighters were compared to the guys we have now. Primo would be fairly average right now apart from he was so thick set and strong.

[kieron]

And Primo got sparked by a 13st Max Baer iirc!! I just think Haye has such destructive power at Cruiser, he will still hit very hard at h/w but will have so much time to land the shots

[icemax]

I know that it is a completely different era and kettle of fish but a 187 Dempsey completely ruined a 245 6'6" Willard in very short order

[Grant1]

This means simply that Haye is still a cruiserweight.. An extra stone is not someone struggling to make 200lbs. Props for going up in weight to look for the bigger challenges but Haye isnt a heavyweight.

I weighed in at 17st 3 today and im a 2 inchs shorter than Haye. Theres no way on this planet i could make 200lbs. Now thats a heavyweight! :-)

That was my initial thought, he's apparently ''put on a stone in muscle'' yet was struggling to make 200 ??

Dont think so some how.

[scurlaruntings]

I know that it is a completely different era and kettle of fish but a 187 Dempsey completely ruined a 245 6'6" Willard in very short orderYeah but Jess was a tin can in comparison to Dempsey. Most of Tysons opponents were physically bigger and heavier than him. He decimated at least 90% of his opposition.

[AnthonyWilliams]

That was my initial thought, he's apparently ''put on a stone in muscle'' yet was struggling to make 200 ??

Dont think so some how.

I thought "struggling to make 200" was just a ploy to catch Enzo...

215 is an excellent weight - fast, powerful, let's hope he keeps that left up!

[scurlaruntings]

Some ploy. He came in 3lbs inside. Thats not a guy struggling to make weight.

[AnthonyWilliams]

Some ploy. He came in 3lbs inside. Thats not a guy struggling to make weight.

Um... exactly? That was the ploy? I'm struggling to make 200... oh whoops, no I'm not!!

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[Robot16]

nice ass :blurp

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On a busy morning work wise...I gotta thank you for the funniest comparison EVER. I cant stop pissin myself at this. GENIUS!!!!

[MattMattMatt]

Um... exactly? That was the ploy? I'm struggling to make 200... oh whoops, no I'm not!!

Because Frank ****** would not risk putting Enzo in with Haye unless he believed that Haye was struggling at the weight.

[trotter]

Haye was tight at 200, I fully believe that. It went on for ages. He fought Bonin to save himself making the weight, he fought Enzo quick sharp after Mormeck so he could stay light.

I'm just slightly surprised at 215... I didn't want hm to go too high, but 215 is maybe 5 lbs short of what I'd expected.

My nagging doubt has always been whether he's big enough for the heavies. We'll see.

["TKO"]

Does anyone know what time he's actually going to be in the ring? Obviously want to watch it but am off to the Warehouse Project tonight so could do with being there by about 11.30 latest.

[trotter]

Does anyone know what time he's actually going to be in the ring? Obviously want to watch it but am off to the Warehouse Project tonight so could do with being there by about 11.30 latest.

Was going to be midnight but they brought it forward to 11.15.

Not good for you...

But for me, it's straight after Match of the Day, what a night !!!

[SouthpawSlayer]

haye is a small hw and im surprised at his weight he is going to be so much quicker and sharper than barret that its gonna be lights out before the 4th for monte

[scurlaruntings]

Um... exactly? That was the ploy? I'm struggling to make 200... oh whoops, no I'm not!! :think O K. Then what was his excuse for moving up to heavy then? Why not just sat he wanted another challenge up at heavy with the big boys? As the consensus opinion is/was Haye is struggling to make 200lbs.

[John18]

A guy earlier in this thread said it right: Haye is a natural small HW.

Although if some of the HW's laid of the cheeseburgers, they'd be around this weight.