Hypothetical Match Up Game

[TheBradyHawkes]

Pretty simple really. Make a hypothetical match up between 2 fighters, and the next person predicts how that fight will go, and gives the next matchup. I'll start.

Sandy Saddler vs. Salvador Sanchez, 15 rounds, at 124 lbs

[Sweet Pea]

Pretty simple really. Make a hypothetical match up between 2 fighters, and the next person predicts how that fight will go, and gives the next matchup. I'll start.

Sandy Saddler vs. Salvador Sanchez, 15 rounds, at 124 lbsSanchez would obviously be extremely weight drained from the 2 pound drop off and would be a dead man walking. Saddler by KO.

Bob Foster vs Michael Spinks at a catchweight of 176.6?

[teeto]

Spinks for me, stays away from the left as much he can and uses the speed of hand to take a decision, keeps his guard up all night!!

I can see Foster winning this though, as i see him prolific at the weight, regardless of competition of level. And one could argue of a stoppage, i know people will scream blasphemy because this is a LHW Spinks.

But i pick Spinks by decision.

Next.............

Buchannan vs. Arguello at 135.

[My2Sense]

Spinks' greater toughness and versatility allows him to pull out the win.

Spinks by late round TKO.


Duran vs. Chavez at 135.

[My2Sense]

Buchannan vs. Arguello at 135.

Arguello by late TKO, after controlling him all the way.


Now, Duran vs. Chavez at 135. :D

[teeto]

Spinks' greater toughness and versatility allows him to pull out the win.

Spinks by late round TKO.


Duran vs. Chavez at 135.
I beat you to it!!!

Try my fight!!

[teeto]

Arguello by late TKO, after controlling him all the way.


Now, Duran vs. Chavez at 135. :D
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!

[teeto]

Duran beats Chavez, though the lightweight version of JCC makes this a classic.

Are we hogging this thread??

Gomez vs Barrera at 122

[the cobra]

Gomez stops him around the 10th.

Hearns vs McCallum at 154

[Sweet Pea]

I see people's sarcasm meters are off today.

[teeto]

I see people's sarcasm meters are off today.
Sorry, can i alter my pick?

Gomez vs Jones jr. at a catchweight of 129

[natonic]

I see people's sarcasm meters are off today.

Everybody might be brain-drained from trying to lose that last 2 pounds ;-)

[teeto]

Everybody might be brain-drained from trying to lose that last 2 pounds ;-)
I think Spinks and Foster can make 176.6 though, they were real pros.

[Sweet Pea]

Sorry, can i alter my pick?

Gomez vs Jones jr. at a catchweight of 129Now that's more like it.

[teeto]

Now that's more like it.
Seriously Pea, gimme a breakdown of Arguello-Buchanan, im bored out my mind here. Just saw a good first round ko for the british welter title though!


No disrepect to the opinion of My2Sense, just want Pea's opinion, as i cannot see Ken being 'controlled' by anyone.

[Sweet Pea]

Seriously Pea, gimme a breakdown of Arguello-Buchanan, im bored out my mind here. Just saw a good first round ko for the british welter title though!


No disrepect to the opinion of My2Sense, just want Pea's opinion, as i cannot see Ken being 'controlled' by anyone.I honestly think Buchanan could be a very difficult matchup for him. His fleet-footedness and general edge in quickness being the main problem. I think I'd go with Buchanan in a close one at LW, though Arguello's body attack and straight right could deter him from being effective in the later rounds when Arguello turned up the heat. Come to think of it, over 15 it's basically a toss-up.

[teeto]

I honestly think Buchanan could be a very difficult matchup for him. His fleet-footedness and general edge in quickness being the main problem. I think I'd go with Buchanan in a close one at LW, though Arguello's body attack and straight right could deter him from being effective in the later rounds when Arguello turned up the heat. Come to think of it, over 15 it's basically a toss-up.
Thanks for that, i was thinking what you always say about Arguello being about timing, Buchanan would be so difficult to time by my reckoning, his ring generalship is of the finest ever. Really fluid on the outside and in the pocket.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Gomez stops him around the 10th.

Hearns vs McCallum at 154

Hearns by a close hard fought decision.

Kostya Tszyu vs Aaron Pryor @ 140, 12 RDS

[red cobra]

Buchanan would be a nightmare for Arguello. I really hate picking a winner here, because I love both fighters, but Buchanan demonstrated his chin, fighting heart, and toughness "ironically" in his most famous bout, the losing one against Duran. Everyone knew about the Scot's great boxing skills, but the Duran fight showed how tough the man was. Anyone besides Duran, and that smothering, swarming style of that June '72 night would have serious problems dealing with Buchanan, even a great like Alexis Arguello, who was troubled by lesser boxer/stylists than Buchanan.

[teeto]

Buchanan was absoultely brilliant.

[My2Sense]

No disrepect to the opinion of My2Sense, just want Pea's opinion, as i cannot see Ken being 'controlled' by anyone.

Not even by Duran?

[pugilist_boyd]

Pryor-----25 Tear Old Tyson Vs 25 Year Old Foreman

[ripcity]

Sanchez would obviously be extremely weight drained from the 2 pound drop off and would be a dead man walking. Saddler by KO.

Bob Foster vs Michael Spinks at a catchweight of 176.6?
Why catchweight?

[teeto]

Not even by Duran?
Buchanan did himself proud i thought throught the general ongoings of the bout, despite the last round.

(Clearly im a big Duran fan!)

[pugilist_boyd]

come on people 25 year old tyson vs 25 year old foreman

[WhataRock]

come on people 25 year old tyson vs 25 year old foreman

Foreman mid round TKO.

25 year old Tyson was post douglas...Many felt he wasnt even in his prime then. Which is hard to believe but there is no doubt Mike had a pretty short one.

Mike McCallum vs Nino Benvenuti

[My2Sense]

Mike McCallum vs Nino Benvenuti

Good one!

I think Benvenuti's superior speed may allow him to get off to a bit of an early lead, but McCallum the better technician & bodypuncher comes back to take the fight via decision or late round TKO.


Next up: Chavez vs. Arguello.

[stonerose]

I see people's sarcasm meters are off today.


i did actually think you were being serious there .:lol:

[Loewe]

Mike McCallum vs Nino Benvenuti

Nice one, Nino is often overlooked. :good

[Raggamuffin]

Good one!

I think Benvenuti's superior speed may allow him to get off to a bit of an early lead, but McCallum the better technician & bodypuncher comes back to take the fight via decision or late round TKO.


Next up: Chavez vs. Arguello.

I like Arguello in this one.
Just a little more boxing skills
close UD

How about Hagler vs Arthur Abraham

[WhataRock]

I like Arguello in this one.
Just a little more boxing skills
close UD

How about Hagler vs Arthur Abraham

Hagler via domination. To much skill, speed and work ethic for Abe.

Mayorga vs Cuevas @ 147

[teeto]

I'll take Cuevas, mostly because i can't justify taking Mayorga, not a good reason i know!

Tito was a massive puncher and did it, i know that was at a different weight but you get me.

They'll brawl and Cuevas gets the better imo.

Wilde vs. Calderon

[WhataRock]

I'll take Cuevas, mostly because i can't justify taking Mayorga, not a good reason i know!



Tito was a massive puncher and did it, i know that was at a different weight but you get me.



They'll brawl and Cuevas gets the better imo.



Wilde vs. Calderon

Im hogging this thread a bit but Ill keep it going.

Wilde knocks out the midget...especially if we are talking over 15 or 20.

Next one....Jorge Arce vs The Hawk Jung-Koo Chang at lightfly.

NB. I put that in teeto there because I thought it would be a fun fight whilst it lasted. I would defo side with Cuevas aswell.

[teeto]

Im hogging this thread a bit but Ill keep it going.

Wilde knocks out the midget...especially if we are talking over 15 or 20.

Next one....Jorge Arce vs The Hawk Jung-Koo Chang at lightfly.

NB. I put that in teeto there because I thought it would be a fun fight whilst it lasted. I would defo side with Cuevas aswell.
Fun fight? understatement of the week!

I like Arce to watch, used to anyway, but i'll take Chang, just think he would be able to take the shots and do his own thing to take the day.

Qawi vs Siki

Fuk it, lets hog the thread!

[laxpdx]

Valuev vs. Butterbean

[WhataRock]

Stumped me...I have seen nothing of Siki, familiar with him but other then possibly seeing a grainy set of highlights I dont think I have seen him fight.

Qawi is fav of mine....I think he is to strong and takes a decision in the end but Im taking a stab here. Other then beating Carpentier (who isnt sensational) I cant see many good wins on old mate Siki's record.

Im going to dumb it down a bit now....Shane Mosley vs Roger Mayweather

[WhataRock]

Valuev vs. Butterbean

Giant over the Bean anyday.

That fat fuck dies of heart failure inside 8. And Im only giving him a chance to last that long because somehow he was still standing after 10 with geriatric holmes.

[My2Sense]

Shane Mosley vs Roger Mayweather

Roger's chin has to give way at some point. It's just a matter of how long until that happens, and what kind of a fight he can put up until it does.


Next up: Kid Gavilan vs. Luis Rodriguez.

[teeto]

Stumped me...I have seen nothing of Siki, familiar with him but other then possibly seeing a grainy set of highlights I dont think I have seen him fight.

Qawi is fav of mine....I think he is to strong and takes a decision in the end but Im taking a stab here. Other then beating Carpentier (who isnt sensational) I cant see many good wins on old mate Siki's record.

Im going to dumb it down a bit now....Shane Mosley vs Roger Mayweather
Yeah i think i was being a bit 'out there' with Siki, apparently a wild man in the ring he was, ive read a bit about him.

Mosley's better offensive skills would take the day in a competitive one i reckon, he'd have the chin to take Roger's bombs imo.

What about Bruno-Norton?

I'll let someone else do a bit of posting now!!!!

[teeto]

Sorry My2Sense, didnt see your post there!

[WhataRock]

RE: My2Sense...top matchup. If things had fallen a little differently for LMR we might be remembering him as a true great. His non-title record is insane, I could go on all day listing the guys he beat, you almost cant believe he was only champ for a such a short period of time. Came heartbreakingly close against Griffith, Benevnuti and Cokes when they were either champs or in eliminators . And of course he holds wins over Curtis and Emile.

My2Sense you are killing me here..Id have to side with Gavilan though, he was just a bit quicker and skilled on the outside, and I think his footwork and technical ability take LMR's body work out of the equation a bit. I reitterate top matchup but Gavlian close points victor over 15.

RE: Teeto...I give Bruno a big shot of bagging an early Ko here but Norton's proven ability over the longer haul gives him the edge for me. Norton stops him in 10.

[newbridgeboxing]

Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

[TheBradyHawkes]

Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

I think Joe wins by a pretty good margin here. Speed and workrate too much.

Alexis Arguello vs JCC @ 130

[My2Sense]

I think Joe wins by a pretty good margin here. Speed and workrate too much.

Alexis Arguello vs JCC @ 130

Already been done, but not by me! :D

I think Arguello has a bit too much for Chavez to overcome. Arguello by decision, in a nine rounds to six kind of fight.


Next up: Luis Rodriguez is back, and he's fighting Jose Napoles. :D

[WhataRock]

Already been done, but not by me! :D

I think Arguello has a bit too much for Chavez to overcome. Arguello by decision, in a nine rounds to six kind of fight.


Next up: Luis Rodriguez is back, and he's fighting Jose Napoles. :D

Napoles. Just a bit to well rounded for LMR, I think he just reduces LMR's effectiveness from the outside with his left but it would be hard work, LMR wouldnt stop punching and being a hard target. Another very close one.

Edit: Now I have thought about it Im really starting to think LMR could take this. He seemed to have a knack for cutting guys up..The Benvenuti cut was nasty, he was also only one of the few people to stop guys like George Benton and Bahama..both of them on cuts. Im sure he cut Carter in one their fights, and I thought he was robbed in Griffith II. Truly a quality fighter
He was accurate and busy which could really take its toll on the thin skin of Napoles. I would go as far to say that the two likely outcomes of this fight are either Napoles edges this on points or he is stopped on cuts.

Wilfredo Gomez vs Danny Lopez @ 124

[WhataRock]

No one?

Ill hog it again then. :)

Gomez takes this. Both have their moments, Gomez's all around better skills and defence sees him takes the better of it for the most part until Lopez falls around the 10th or 11th.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Archie Moore Vs Dwight Muhammad Qawi :bbb

[heehoo]

Moore KO late in the fight... both are greats, though Moore is a legend.

Pancho Villa vs. Manny Pacquiao at 122 LBS?

[AlFrancis]

Moore KO late in the fight... both are greats, though Moore is a legend.

Pancho Villa vs. Manny Pacquiao at 122 LBS?

Paquiao points, too strong for Villa at the weight.

Walter McGowan vs Charlie Magri

[la-califa]

Paquiao points, too strong for Villa at the weight.

Walter McGowan vs Charlie Magri McGowan takes it on points. Magri is a little outclassed here.

Rudolfo Gonzalez .Vs. Mando Ramos

[WhataRock]

McGowan takes it on points. Magri is a little outclassed here.

Rudolfo Gonzalez .Vs. Mando Ramos

It would be a blood bath whilst it lasted.

Maybe its against all logic but Ill tip Gonzalez to accumulate to much damage over the long haul, 15 rounds. Forces the stoppage eventually, probably gives away a few rounds in the process. I really rated Ramos though, he was technically superior here from what Ive seen.

Im pretty sure I read that Gonzalez offered a fight to Duran but it never came about. Would have been a great test for the then young Duran.

Jeff Fenech vs Lupe Pintor

[la-califa]

Fenech too big & too strong for the Bantam Pintor. I would look for Fenech to finish Pintor in about the ninth or tenth round.

Tony Ayala Jr. .Vs. Fernando Vargas

[heehoo]

Fenech too big & too strong for the Bantam Pintor. I would look for Fenech to finish Pintor in about the ninth or tenth round.

Tony Ayala Jr. .Vs. Fernando Vargas

Ayala, much too skilled and aggressive for Vargas.

Pernell Whitaker vs. Willie Pep?

[WhataRock]

Ayala, much too skilled and aggressive for Vargas.

Pernell Whitaker vs. Willie Pep?

Sweet Pea to big in the end.

Both were defensive masters, both werent known for their power but I think the size advantage allows Pernell to take a few more risks and he gradually piles up the points.

A bit tough on old Willie there.


Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson vs Johnny Tapia

[My2Sense]

Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson vs Johnny Tapia

I give Johnson's quicker, sharper punching and left handed stance the edge vs. Tapia's all around ability. Johnson by decision.


Ike Williams vs. Carlos Ortiz.

[WhataRock]

Tough one...

Ortiz is one of my favourite Rican fighters, a treat to watch. But its hard for me the picture him being able to deal with the the constant work of Williams over the stretch. I think there are a lot of pick em rounds early on but eventually Willams, who would not be discouraged, gets on top of Ortiz and takes a clear points decision.

Ike Quartey vs Curtis Cokes

[My2Sense]

Ike Quartey vs Curtis Cokes

Cokes tries all his trickery, but fails to break Quartey's defense open. Quartey keeps the pressure on and wins by mid or late round TKO, IMO.


Next up: Chavez vs. Armstrong.

[PhillyPhan69]

Cokes tries all his trickery, but fails to break Quartey's defense open. Quartey keeps the pressure on and wins by mid or late round TKO, IMO.


Next up: Chavez vs. Armstrong.

I could see this going either way? But would lean towards a close decision for Armstrong

LW Tony "The Tiger" Lopez (92) vs Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini (82)

[AlFrancis]

I could see this going either way? But would lean towards a close decision for Armstrong

LW Tony "The Tiger" Lopez (92) vs Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini (82)Mancini too intense ,too strong pounds out a 12 round decision.


Howard Winstone vs Danny Lopez, prime for prime.

[PhillyPhan69]

Mancini too intense ,too strong pounds out a 12 round decision.


Howard Winstone vs Danny Lopez, prime for prime.

Had Winstone been able to beat Saldivar in one of their encounters he would be rated much higher. Danny Lopez who sometimes seem to be a forgotten man (outside of losses to Sanchez, anyway) much of the time...would rank very high. I would go with a Little red decision, but would not be schocked to see him score a late KO either.

Rolando Navarrete vs Manny Pacquiao

[la-califa]

Pacquaio too fast & too busy for Rolando. Pacquaio by 10 rd. TKO.
Genaro Hernandez .Vs. Rafael "Bazooka" Limon

[My2Sense]

Genaro Hernandez .Vs. Rafael "Bazooka" Limon

Tough to call. Hernandez was a good, classy boxer, and Limon has his share of limitations. But how does Hernandez hold up when Limon bulls his way into him with both hands flailing?

Hernandez could win on points here, but I think at some point Hernandez goes down and the fight turns against him, and he quits on his stool claiming some sort of "nose injury" or other problem.


Next: Azumah Nelson vs. John John Molina.

[la-califa]

Molina could hold his own for a while with his boxing skills. But John,John cant hold up to the relentless pressure of Nelson. Azumah by 11th round TKO.

James Toney .Vs. Bernard Hopkins at 160.

[teeto]

Hopkins no doubt,

mccallum-hearns at 154- the ig one at light middle!

[pugilist_boyd]

very tough one but ill go out on a limb and say toney but im really debaiting it
prime louis vs prime ali

[My2Sense]

I'd favor Hearns to outbox/outspeed McCallum, though a late come-from-behind stoppage for Mike is always possible.

I think Louis could find the holes in Ali's defense and wear him down to win either by late stoppage or close decision. But it's possible Ali simply had too much for even the great Louis to overcome.

In any event, my "official" predictions are:
Hearns UD McCallum
Louis TKO in 13 Ali


Next up: Eder Jofre vs. Ruben Olivares

[la-califa]

Good match up. Jofre just might be able to avoid the bombs & squeeke by with a split decision. win. But if Jofre goes down, dont be suprized by a draw or decision the other way...

Michael Spinks .Vs. Evander Holyfield at 190.

[bigtime-skills]

Good match up. Jofre just might be able to avoid the bombs & squeeke by with a split decision. win. But if Jofre goes down, dont be suprized by a draw or decision the other way...

Michael Spinks .Vs. Evander Holyfield at 190.

I've always felt Holy would get under the "Jinx's" awkwardness and eventually pound out a UD.

DLH - Napoles?:think

[la-califa]

Suprisingly close affair early on. DeLaHoya's slashing fists open a nasy cut. Napoles uses his smooth boxing skills to stay out of harms way. Oscars stamina betrays him down the stretch and Montequilla pulls out the decision win.

Michael Carbajal . Vs. Ricardo Lopez

[My2Sense]

Suprisingly close affair early on. DeLaHoya's slashing fists open a nasy cut. Napoles uses his smooth boxing skills to stay out of harms way. Oscars stamina betrays him down the stretch and Montequilla pulls out the decision win.

Michael Carbajal . Vs. Ricardo Lopez

Lopez should be able to tee off on the easy to hit Carbajal and win a decision. However, given Carbajal's power, toughness, and relentlessness, and the fact that Lopez spent most of his career fighting chimps, it's hard to say for sure.


Next up: Fenech vs. Barrera, jr. featherweights.

[la-califa]

Fenech has all the tools to pull this one off. Strength,speed,ability & above all else disipline. Fenech by suprizing split decision over the tough,game Barrera.

Livingstone Bramble .Vs. Joel Casamayor

[la-califa]

Or how about Jess Willard .vs. Max Baer

[pugilist_boyd]

i think willards style does not match well with baers and i see max by ko late say around 10 or later but willard always has the chance of landing the big one i say out of 100 baer 60/40 chance
PRIME 1920 DEMPSEY VS LISTON OR FRAZIER

[OBCboxer]

i think willards style does not match well with baers and i see max by ko late say around 10 or later but willard always has the chance of landing the big one i say out of 100 baer 60/40 chance
PRIME 1920 DEMPSEY VS LISTON OR FRAZIER

Liston keeps Dempsey on the end of his pole of a jab and hits him with his uppercuts. I take Liston by UD or late TKO. Dempsey vs Frazier is tough for me to call. How would he fare against the stronger and bigger Frazier? I say Draw.

Joe Louis vs Sonny Liston.

[JohnThomas1]

Liston keeps Dempsey on the end of his pole of a jab and hits him with his uppercuts. I take Liston by UD or late TKO. Dempsey vs Frazier is tough for me to call. How would he fare against the stronger and bigger Frazier? I say Draw.

Joe Louis vs Sonny Liston.

Tentative pick - Sonny TKO8

Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn

[Mike T]

Monzon late tko after giving up a few early rounds.
Hearns vs Trinidad at 147 or 154?

[OBCboxer]

Monzon late tko after giving up a few early rounds.
Hearns vs Trinidad at 147 or 154?

I want to say Hearns by late TKO in a back and forth affair. Hearns has all of the physical advantages on his size and I think he'll try to keep his range and set up the right hand. Trinindad migh land that left hook and send Hearns to the floor. Both fighters didn't have great chins so it would be who lands first and more often. I like Hearns in this one.

Ezzard Charles vs Bob Foster at Light Heavyweight

[WhataRock]

Perhaps I overrate him terribly but for me Bob Foster is the man who just about beats everyone else at lightheavy.

With Moore a serious chance of knocking him out and Charles an equal chance of just wearing him down. Id give Spinks a good shot aswell.

But I still lean with Foster in all of these matchups..Foster just didnt knock out fighters, he ruined them and there are only a few people I have seen who look so relaxed yet so powerful at the same time. Im pretty sure he never lost to someone when they both weighed in at the lighheavy limit. He did lose to some lightheavies but Im sure they were over the limit when he lost to them.

Almost an even money fight for me but If Im making a choice Id go with Foster to box Charles with power win a pretty tight but convincing decision. Probably 9-6, something like that.

Eddie Perkins vs Ricky Hatton

[heehoo]

Great matchup, I'd see Perkins easily out-boxing and out-maneuvering Hatton.

Aaron Pryor vs. Pernell Whitaker?

[Mike T]

I see Pernell by ud. I think sweet pea had underrated pop in his punches.
Renaldo Snipes vs Sam Peter?

[WhataRock]

Interesting matchup Mike T...

Snipes was a pretty decent contender in his day. Had a prime Holmes absolutely fucked when he knocked him down in their fight and overall gave him a pretty tough fight.

Often lacked finesse and focus at times. He had a massive amount of time to finish Holmes but really let him off the hook with some poor follow work. Seem to get a bit full himself after the knockdown.

IF he did keep things together I think he could handily defeat someone like Peter...but he would have be one his game.
His chin seemed alright but he often looked a bit of a worry when he was on the ropes, thats sorta how Holmes finished him. I think a bigger man like Peter could defo muscle him into the ropes at some point and go to work.
Ill go with Snipes on points.

Trevor Berbick vs Danny Williams (at his very best..dont take into account his very very very inconsistent form and fitnees)

[la-califa]

A prime Berbick had some decent boxing skills, I would look for him to pound out a pretty easy UD over Williams.

Miguel Cotto .Vs. Carlos "Bollilo" Gonzalez

[WhataRock]

A prime Berbick had some decent boxing skills, I would look for him to pound out a pretty easy UD over Williams.

Miguel Cotto .Vs. Carlos "Bollilo" Gonzalez

Kinda of an interesting fight.

My instinct to straight away pick Cotto but his lack of durability that has shown itself over his career and culminated in his fight with Margarito should be considered.
Gonzalez had this killed or be killed style and could certainly hit.

Cotto I still think is a bit to well rounded here and he would knock Bollilo out sometime in the mid rounds.

Will Grisby vs Hilario Zapata

[TheBradyHawkes]

Zapata by close decision.

Ron Lyle vs Razor Ruddock

[la-califa]

Ron Lyle, too much power & more active than Razor. 5th round Kayo.

Joe Calzaghe .Vs. Victor Galindez at 175.

[Arriba]

Joe Calzaghe by close decision (havent seen much of Galindez)

Oliver McCall against George Chuvalo over 15 rounds.

[WhataRock]

Chuvalo quite easily.

About equal with chin, though McCall is probably the bigger puncher this is a moot point in a fight between these two.

George is quicker and more skilled..I dont think the longer distance helps Oliver either.

Chuvalo UD.

RE: Galindez...Not a fight Joe couldnt win Arriba but he would know he was in one, I actually would favour Galindez at lightheavy.

Nate Campbell vs Rafael Limon @ 135

[My2Sense]

Nate Campbell vs Rafael Limon @ 135

I'll take Limon by late round TKO.

I don't think Campbell has the sturdiness or discipline to hold him off for an entire fight.


Next: Jeff Fenech vs. Wilfredo Gomez, jr. feathers.

[WhataRock]

I'll take Limon by late round TKO.

I don't think Campbell has the sturdiness or discipline to hold him off for an entire fight.


Next: Jeff Fenech vs. Wilfredo Gomez, jr. feathers.

Ill leave this for someone else...but what a matchup.

Probably my two best H2H at the weight.

[My2Sense]

Ill leave this for someone else...but what a matchup.

Probably my two best H2H at the weight.
Same here. Gomez was classier and more well rounded, but he tended to lose discipline and get caught up in slugfests (though he was usually so much better than his opponent that it didn't matter) and IMO his chin was a bit "iffy". Lots of angles to this fight.

IMO, these are probably the two best ever at this weight class.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Prime Hector Camacho vs Prime Kostya Tszyu @ 140 :bbb

[Thread Stealer]

Prime Hector Camacho vs Prime Kostya Tszyu @ 140 :bbb

Camacho was better at 130 and 135.

Tszyu was good at timing quick guys, getting that right hand home against lefties. I say he has some problems early on with Camacho's speed but eventually times him and gets the right hand home. Camacho goes too much into a defensive shell and drops a UD to Tszyu.


Marlon Starling vs. Oscar De La Hoya

[pugilist_boyd]

oscar without a doubt,i think hes very underrated on this forum,although i think duran would have the upperhand i have a poll on the 2 and i dont think it would be an easy victory for duran if a victory at all---------fitzsimmons vs calzaghe

[WhataRock]

oscar without a doubt,i think hes very underrated on this forum,although i think duran would have the upperhand i have a poll on the 2 and i dont think it would be an easy victory for duran if a victory at all---------fitzsimmons vs calzaghe

Hard these matchups...All I will say is that if Joe fought in Bob's era he probably would not hear the final bell...Bob fighting in Joe's era is a more difficult fight to pick for.


RE: Oscar vs Starling..pug I reckon Starling is the kind of fighter who would cast a lot of doubt on the result of this fight...At his very best he was a superb defensive fighter who very good on the outside and better then De la Hoya on the inside. I think his style and attributes give Oscar one hell of a time.


MAB vs Sugar Ramos

[pugilist_boyd]

fitzsimmons vs calzaghe

[WhataRock]

fitzsimmons vs calzaghe

I thought we already went there :D ...As I said before in Bob's era Fitzsimmons by KO.

In Joe's era..I dont know...Joe wins via DQ.


MAB vs Sugar Ramos

[Robbi]

Interesting thread. This one is a tough one IMO.

Donald Curry v Wilfred Benitez. 15 rounds at welterweight.

[WhataRock]

Interesting thread. This one is a tough one IMO.

Donald Curry v Wilfred Benitez. 15 rounds at welterweight.

You gotta answer the last one Robbi before you put your one up.

MAB vs Sugar Ramos it is.

[la-califa]

Close fight, Barrera pulls it out with his power being the difference.
Erik Morales .Vs. Bobby Chacon at 126.

[Thread Stealer]

Close fight, Barrera pulls it out with his power being the difference.
Erik Morales .Vs. Bobby Chacon at 126.

I think Morales would win a fun, brutal fight. He's more skilled than Chacon and I think that right hand would land with consistency. Both guys would be really banged up by the end of the bout. Morales by UD.

Salvador Sanchez vs. Eusebio Pedroza

[la-califa]

Interesting thread. This one is a tough one IMO.

Donald Curry v Wilfred Benitez. 15 rounds at welterweight.Wilfred beat Bruce, & I'm afraid Donald would fair no better. Benitez 15 rd. UD. (Razor thin after 12 though).

[PhillyPhan69]

I think Morales would win a fun, brutal fight. He's more skilled than Chacon and I think that right hand would land with consistency. Both guys would be really banged up by the end of the bout. Morales by UD.

Salvador Sanchez vs. Eusebio Pedroza

Sanchez edges pedroza in a closely contested fight...with a late KO a possibility.

Joltin Jeff Chandler vs Lupe Pintor

[My2Sense]

Joltin Jeff Chandler vs Lupe Pintor

Pintor wins with his intense pressure and better all-around attack.

Pintor comes on strong late to win by decision or late TKO.


Next up: Arguello vs. Saddler.

[Sweet Pea]

Wilfred beat Bruce, & I'm afraid Donald would fair no better. Benitez 15 rd. UD. (Razor thin after 12 though).:huh Because Donald was no better than Bruce? I don't see the logic in this argument.

[Robbi]

Bruce Curry was average to say the least and never possessed anywhere near his brother's technical prowess. Different level of class. And I'm afraid Donald would fare better against Benitez by a large margin. So large, he wins.

D Curry W15 Benitez.

[la-califa]

The Benitez that Barely beat Bruce was still young and Undisiplined. Whereas the Benitez that would face Donald(Welter, Jr. Middle.) was far more dedicated & disiplined. & IMO would have been able to defeat Donald over the 15 round limit. So it's not a case of comparing the two Curry's. It's just the maturation of Benitez' skills.

[GPater11093]

how about

prime Jones jr vs prime Fitzsimmons

[la-califa]

how about

prime Jones jr vs prime Fitzsimmons At which weight? At Middleweight Jones' speed & boxing ability would be too much for Fitz. But LightHeavy and beyond, Fitzsimmons natural size & weight advantage would wear on Jones. Jones would be slightly slower in hand speed and foot speed. the key ingrediants that would carry him to victory over Fitz at Middleweight.

Samuel Peter .Vs. Earnie Shavers

[TheBradyHawkes]

Samuel Peter .Vs. Earnie Shavers

Shavers by blistering KO. Too much power for the Nigerian Nightmare.

Terry Norris vs Fernando Vargas @ 154

[red cobra]

Arguello by late TKO, after controlling him all the way.


Now, Duran vs. Chavez at 135. :D
There is no way, not in your wildest dreams, that even a great and classy a fighter like Arguello "controls" Buchanan all the way, or even part of the way. Buchanan would have been way to fast and slick for Alexis, as well as being tough enough to take the rough stuff of Duran, and I'm sure he'd be able to take even less sustained punishment from Arguello. Buchanan by a close 15 round decision. Boxers bothered Arguello, and a tough, gritty boxer like the Sctsman would have the edge.

[la-califa]

Norris is too fast & hit too hard for Fernando to deal with. Vargas would be out on his feet before he can unload his own bombs. Norris 3rd Round TKO.

Thomas Hearns-Joe Calzaghe at 168.

[GPater11093]

hearns too big and powerful for the game welsh man who would walk forward and try to get inside his jab and would be picked off. would start coming back in the middle rounds and probably stopped in the late rounds with a hearns right hand

pep vs marco antonio berrara at feather

[dav8d777]

There is no way, not in your wildest dreams, that even a great and classy a fighter like Arguello "controls" Buchanan all the way, or even part of the way. Buchanan would have been way to fast and slick for Alexis, as well as being tough enough to take the rough stuff of Duran, and I'm sure he'd be able to take even less sustained punishment from Arguello. Buchanan by a close 15 round decision. Boxers bothered Arguello, and a tough, gritty boxer like the Sctsman would have the edge.

As I remember though punchers bothered Buchanan a lot and Arguello was a hard puncher.

[dav8d777]

Pintor wins with his intense pressure and better all-around attack.

Pintor comes on strong late to win by decision or late TKO.


Next up: Arguello vs. Saddler.

Saddler, D15

[dav8d777]

Zapata by close decision.

Ron Lyle vs Razor Ruddock

Oh that's easy. Lyle TK5

Carnera vs. Tubbs

Just kidding...

[dav8d777]

Joe Calzaghe by close decision (havent seen much of Galindez)

Oliver McCall against George Chuvalo over 15 rounds.

Chuvalo bloodies him up. The fight gets stopped on cuts in round 9 or 10. If it went the full 15 I think Chuvalo still wins due to superior stamina.

[dav8d777]

Perhaps I overrate him terribly but for me Bob Foster is the man who just about beats everyone else at lightheavy.

With Moore a serious chance of knocking him out and Charles an equal chance of just wearing him down. Id give Spinks a good shot aswell.

But I still lean with Foster in all of these matchups..Foster just didnt knock out fighters, he ruined them and there are only a few people I have seen who look so relaxed yet so powerful at the same time. Im pretty sure he never lost to someone when they both weighed in at the lighheavy limit. He did lose to some lightheavies but Im sure they were over the limit when he lost to them.

Almost an even money fight for me but If Im making a choice Id go with Foster to box Charles with power win a pretty tight but convincing decision. Probably 9-6, something like that.


I'll never forget Foster's one punch KO of Mike Quarry. Quarry hit the canvas face down and stayed there. I think Foster beats Charles, but Moore beats them both. Moore was just TOO hard to beat.

[dav8d777]

i think willards style does not match well with baers and i see max by ko late say around 10 or later but willard always has the chance of landing the big one i say out of 100 baer 60/40 chance
PRIME 1920 DEMPSEY VS LISTON OR FRAZIER

Dempsey beats Liston with merciless body punching. Liston didn't have to defend against animals like Dempsey.

If Dempsey let Frazier hit him the way he let Firpo hit him he'd be gone. On the other hand Foreman brought Frazier's chin into doubt.... This one is a donnybrook. Probably Dempsey stops Frazier TK4.

[dav8d777]

Good match up. Jofre just might be able to avoid the bombs & squeeke by with a split decision. win. But if Jofre goes down, dont be suprized by a draw or decision the other way...

Michael Spinks .Vs. Evander Holyfield at 190.

Holyfield by majority decision. Rough fight, but Holyfield remains disciplined and manages to avoid the "jinx".

[dav8d777]

Giant over the Bean anyday.

That fat fuck dies of heart failure inside 8. And Im only giving him a chance to last that long because somehow he was still standing after 10 with geriatric holmes.

I wonder which one weighs more...

[dav8d777]

very tough one but ill go out on a limb and say toney but im really debaiting it
prime louis vs prime ali

Ali, TK11 because Louis is having trouble seeing due to blood and swelling. Louis the stalker fails to cut of the ring on Ali.

[la-califa]

Ali, TK11 because Louis is having trouble seeing due to blood and swelling. Louis the stalker fails to cut of the ring on Ali. Good Comments Dav8, But after your analyzation, give a fight you would like someone else to comment on. Example:

Roger Mayweather .Vs. Naseem Hamed. at 130.

[My2Sense]

There is no way, not in your wildest dreams, that even a great and classy a fighter like Arguello "controls" Buchanan all the way, or even part of the way. Buchanan would have been way to fast and slick for Alexis, as well as being tough enough to take the rough stuff of Duran, and I'm sure he'd be able to take even less sustained punishment from Arguello. Buchanan by a close 15 round decision. Boxers bothered Arguello, and a tough, gritty boxer like the Sctsman would have the edge.

Who was the best fighter that Buchanan was ever "too fast and slick" for? Buchanan was forced to call on his heart and determination in practically half the fights he had. He was hardly the defensive wizard you are making him out to be.

He wasn't fast enough or slick enough to outmaneuver Arguello a whole fight, and he didn't have the power to hurt him or hold him off. He's in a Catch 22 situation against Arguello.

I hardly consider taking a one-sided 13-round beating from a young and raw Duran being an indication of any kind of exceptional prowess on his part.

[My2Sense]

Good Comments Dav8, But after your analyzation, give a fight you would like someone else to comment on. Example:

Roger Mayweather .Vs. Naseem Hamed. at 130.

Hmmmmm... interesting.

Mayweather may have had the style and the skills to beat Hamed, but his chin was so damn unreliable. At some point, Hamed is liable to land with one of his looping, awkward-angle punches and flatten Mayweather.

I'd take Hamed to KO him at some point, after being outboxed for as long as the fight was going before that.


Next up: Ike Williams vs. Julio Cesar Chavez.

[WhataRock]

Who was the best fighter that Buchanan was ever "too fast and slick" for? Buchanan was forced to call on his heart and determination in practically half the fights he had. He was hardly the defensive wizard you are making him out to be.

He wasn't fast enough or slick enough to outmaneuver Arguello a whole fight, and he didn't have the power to hurt him or hold him off. He's in a Catch 22 situation against Arguello.

I hardly consider taking a one-sided 13-round beating from a young and raw Duran being an indication of any kind of exceptional prowess on his part.


Not quite IMO..he was competitive though it was more then likely one-sided on the cards. Roberto wasnt given that fight easily.

[WhataRock]

Ike Williams vs JCC..

Great fight but I cant see Chavez being able to exert his will like he was used to.

I just dont think Williams folds or gets intimidated by Chavez and when JCC is trying to dominate later on when he usually is able to after investing to the body early, Williams will still be there and will still be giving as good as he gets.

I think Williams takes an early lead and second half of the fight is a great see-saw tussle with Ike hanging on to take a 9-6 kind of decision over 15.

Ismael Laguna vs Jose Napoles @ 140.

[la-califa]

Ike Williams vs JCC..

Great fight but I cant see Chavez being able to exert his will like he was used to.

I just dont think Williams folds or gets intimidated by Chavez and when JCC is trying to dominate later on when he usually is able to after investing to the body early, Williams will still be there and will still be giving as good as he gets.

I think Williams takes an early lead and second half of the fight is a great see-saw tussle with Ike hanging on to take a 9-6 kind of decision over 15.

Ismael Laguna vs Jose Napoles @ 140. Laguna would give Napoles alot of problems, but Montequilla was a great problem solver, Mapoles would slowly use his smooth boxing skills to gain a late advantage against a game Laguna. but a natural size advantage & power would tilt the balance in Napoles" favor. Napoles 15 round decision.

Ken Buchanon .Vs. Fritzie Zivic
(If Buchanon had trouble with Duran's tactics, Try Zivic on for size).

[TheBradyHawkes]

Bump

Zivic by late stoppage


Ray Mancini vs Michael Katsidis

[WhataRock]

Just about any version of Ray destroys Mike inside 8 rounds....The later 140 version maybe wouldnt but thats hardly fair using that incarnation of Mancini against a pretty much in his physical prime Katsidas.

Carlos Palomino vs Donald Curry

[Arriba]

I think it'd be a really close fight but I'll take Donald Curry. Palomino would give him quite a few scares though...I just think Curry is the better fighter between the two.

Bobby Chacon vs Erik Morales at 130 lbs

[la-califa]

I think it'd be a really close fight but I'll take Donald Curry. Palomino would give him quite a few scares though...I just think Curry is the better fighter between the two.

Bobby Chacon vs Erik Morales at 130 lbs
Morales takes it with his smoother boxing skills, & power advantage. At feather however, could be a different story as Chacon was much sharper.

Tony Ayala Jr. .Vs. Terry Norris

[TheBradyHawkes]

Very tough fight. Norris would be too much in the end though, and take a very close, hard fought decision.

Henry Armstrong vs Shane Mosley @ 140

[pugilist_boyd]

very tough but ill say mosely takes this one by a split dec. in our era, in armstrongs it would be even closer because of the oldtimers extreme conditioning .
jim jeffries vs joe frazier in big jeffs era

[TheBradyHawkes]

Joe Frazier by mid round stoppage from an accumulation of hooks and body work.

Acelino Freitas vs Jorge Paez Sr. @ 130

[Arriba]

Wow that's a tough one. Paez was the master at taking people out of their games with his sometimes "difficult" style...but I have to imagine that Popo in his prime would handle him at any weight and possibly KO him late. Then again I've seen too much of Paez post his superstar days and not enough of Maromero in his prime, making it very difficult to judge.

"Sugar" Shane Mosley vs Kostya Tszyu at a catch weight of say 143-ish.

[Xplosive]

Mosley would have stopped Tszyu late. Kostya would have given Shane a tough fight, but overall I see a prime Mosley just being too fast, too powerful, and too tough for Tszyu. Plus I think Mosley's body punching would have worn Tszyu out. Mosley TKO 11.

Ismael Laguna vs Meldrick Taylor

[TheBradyHawkes]

Taylor's speed would play havoc with Laguna's already suspect defense. Taylor UD.

Micky Ward vs Ricardo Torres @ 140

[GPater11093]

ward draws torres into a war and stops him around the 5th with a susatined body attack. an absouloute war.

Aaron Pryor vs Ricky Hatton

[OBCboxer]

ward draws torres into a war and stops him around the 5th with a susatined body attack. an absouloute war.

Aaron Pryor vs Ricky Hatton

Pryor destroys Hatton by mid to late KO.

Joe Frazier vs Jack Johnson

[My2Sense]

Joe Frazier vs Jack Johnson

Frazier, with his speed and relentless attack, eventually busts his way through Johnson's defense and wins by decision or late TKO.


Fight that we just missed out on seeing...

John John Molina vs. Arturo Gatti, jr. lightweights.

[PhillyPhan69]

Frazier, with his speed and relentless attack, eventually busts his way through Johnson's defense and wins by decision or late TKO.


Fight that we just missed out on seeing...

John John Molina vs. Arturo Gatti, jr. lightweights.

Molina would have way to much IMO in the skill dept. and cruises to a lopsided decision or stoppage on cuts. On the other hand if Molina throws caution to the wind ala Lopez II and tries to just outslug him, it could open the door a little for Gatti...But for my money it would be on John John

Salvador Sanchez vs Jeff Fenech

[Bill Butcher]

Salvador Sanchez by 15 rd decision over Jeff Fenech.

Fenech`s come forward bruising style would play into Sanchez`s hands & he would counter him to death IMO.

Robinson vs Hagler at 160 - the best of both at the weight ?

[Rosanero10]

How about, 135 pounds, PBF and a "Pre Chavez" Meldrick Taylor. I bring this point up often, and think that Taylor would beat Floyd.......thoughts?

[Rosanero10]

Salvador Sanchez by 15 rd decision over Jeff Fenech.

Fenech`s come forward bruising style would play into Sanchez`s hands & he would counter him to death IMO.

Robinson vs Hagler at 160 - the best of both at the weight ?

Hagler.....IMO the best middleweight of all time, who lost two fights early on in Philly to Philly fighters (Both decisions were horrendous) and of course, you can venture to guess my opinion of the Sugar Ray Fight. I think Hagler won that fight, and personally, I think it was obvious.

[TheBradyHawkes]

How about, 135 pounds, PBF and a "Pre Chavez" Meldrick Taylor. I bring this point up often, and think that Taylor would beat Floyd.......thoughts?

It's not out of the realm of possibilty. Floyd is so accurate though, and his masterful counter punching would be a nightmare for Taylor. I like PBF by a fairly wide UD.

Billy Conn vs Tomasz Adamek at 175

[OBCboxer]

It's not out of the realm of possibilty. Floyd is so accurate though, and his masterful counter punching would be a nightmare for Taylor. I like PBF by a fairly wide UD.

Billy Conn vs Tomasz Adamek at 175

Conn wide UD. Admaek is too slow for him.

Hank Armstrong vs Sandy Saddler

[GPater11093]

Saddler by a late KO as hank pressuring forward causes him to walk into saddlers huge punches

Johnny Hill vs Benny Lynch

[Sweet Pea]

Saddler by UD or late stoppage over Homicide Hank. Maybe the only fighter I'd pick to stop him around his prime weights. Just a bad matchup.

Fighting Harada vs Sung-Kil Moon at 115

[GPater11093]

sweet pea you posted just after me and missed my one out

shame on you

just joking you have the better match up

[TheBradyHawkes]

Fighting Harada vs Sung-Kil Moon at 115

Moon gets sloppy and dives in one too many times. Harada catches him coming in. Mid round KO.

Ray Leonard (1989 version) vs Shane Mosley (2004 version) @ 147

[WhataRock]

Moon gets sloppy and dives in one too many times. Harada catches him coming in. Mid round KO.

Ray Leonard (1989 version) vs Shane Mosley (2004 version) @ 147

Leonard and quite clearly...To big and skilled for Shane's style to have any effect.

P.S Personally I wouldnt go with Harada by KO...Moon was tough and generally kissed the canvas because of the openings his super aggressive, free swinging style caused not because his chin was weak. Harada wasnt exactly a huge puncher at any weight anyways.
I think Masahiko would have to fight a careful fight, constantly jabbing and moving but being cautious not to trade to much with Moon..I think he would clearly outpoint him but yeah I dont see him stopping Moon.


Esteban De Jesus vs Stevie Johnston

[TheBradyHawkes]

No worries mate. From what I remember of Moon, he had a very wild, sometimes careless attack. A good counter puncher could take advantage of that.

[Xplosive]

Dejesus was too sharp and powerful and Stevie, although Stevie would have his moments. Dejesus by UD, or late TKO.

Terry Norris vs Marlon Starling

[Russell]

Dejesus was too sharp and powerful and Stevie, although Stevie would have his moments. Dejesus by UD, or late TKO.

Terry Norris vs Marlon Starling

Starling breaks him down and stops him late.

Starling had too tight a guard for Norris to do much of anything, blazing hand speed and combinations withstanding.

If Starling could take what Breland, Honeyghan, Brown, Curry and Barret threw at him, he can weather a early Norris storm and take the chinny Norris out late.

Really, I don't think Norris had a substantially better chin the Breland.

[Russell]

Oh, Mark Breland vs Ike Quartey.

[Xplosive]

Oh, Mark Breland vs Ike Quartey.

Ike was way too strong and powerful for the fragile Breland to handle. Ike walks Breland down and destroys him within 6.

Edwin Rosario vs Mando Ramos

[la-califa]

Ike was way too strong and powerful for the fragile Breland to handle. Ike walks Breland down and destroys him within 6.

Edwin Rosario vs Mando Ramos Great fight, Ramos in a wild affair. Cut & bleeding to storm back late. Mando 10th round TKO.

Andy Ganigan .Vs. Ricky Hatton

[TheBradyHawkes]

Andy Ganigan .Vs. Ricky Hatton

It would be fun while it lasted. Brutal early rounds from both men, but Hatton's relentless push and body work get this one stopped. Hatton TKO7.

Iran Barkley vs Arthur Abraham @ 160

[My2Sense]

Iran Barkley vs Arthur Abraham @ 160

Anything's possible with this one, but I'd take Abraham's better technique and straighter punching to carry the day for him.

Abraham by 7th or 8th round stoppage, in a war.


Next up: Jeff Fenech vs. Johnny Famechon - for the title of best Aussie featherweight.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Next up: Jeff Fenech vs. Johnny Famechon - for the title of best Aussie featherweight.

Ooh. Talk about styles making fights. I actually think Famechon wins this one by a wide berth. Too classy with his boxing, and countering Fenech's aggresive style. Famechon UD.

Carl Thompson vs Jean Marc Mormeck in a CW battle

[la-califa]

Ooh. Talk about styles making fights. I actually think Famechon wins this one by a wide berth. Too classy with his boxing, and countering Fenech's aggresive style. Famechon UD.

Carl Thompson vs Jean Marc Mormeck in a CW battle An all out battle with Mormeck hanging on for a slight split decision win.

Earnie Shavers .Vs. Sonny Liston

[Drew101]

An all out battle with Mormeck hanging on for a slight split decision win.

Earnie Shavers .Vs. Sonny Liston

Liston controls the first with his jab, gets shaken by a Shavers right as he presses the issue in the second, and Earnie moves forward to finish. In doing so, he leaves himself open for a Liston uppercut and drops like a stone. End fight. KO 2 Liston.

Battle of two journeymen who managed to win titles:

Saoul Mamby vs. Freddie Pendleton

[PhillyPhan69]

An all out battle with Mormeck hanging on for a slight split decision win.

Earnie Shavers .Vs. Sonny Liston

While giving Shavers a punchers chance...I'll take liston in 2 or 3 as he overwhelms ernie...

Boza edwards vs Azumah Nelson SFW

[PhillyPhan69]

While giving Shavers a punchers chance...I'll take liston in 2 or 3 as he overwhelms ernie...

Boza edwards vs Azumah Nelson SFW

Beat to the punch again!!!

[Sweet Pea]

No worries mate. From what I remember of Moon, he had a very wild, sometimes careless attack. A good counter puncher could take advantage of that.

None of them did though, and he fought the best of the best of that era, in the best era in the division's history (Konadu, Roman, Zapata, etc.). Not to mention he had a great chin.

[la-califa]

While giving Shavers a punchers chance...I'll take liston in 2 or 3 as he overwhelms ernie...

Boza edwards vs Azumah Nelson SFW
Edwards takes to many shots and Nelson has a high volume output. Edwards would hang in for awhile But the accumilation of punches would get to Boza. Plus Nelson has a granite chin. Nelson TKO about the Ninth.

Ron Lyle .Vs. Donovan Ruddock

[dnr0720]

Edwards takes to many shots and Nelson has a high volume output. Edwards would hang in for awhile But the accumilation of punches would get to Boza. Plus Nelson has a granite chin. Nelson TKO about the Ninth.

Ron Lyle .Vs. Donovan Ruddock

Would definately make for an interesting fight Lyle could be put away by big punchers which Ruddock was but I feel Lyle pulls this one out by mid round kay. Plus any guy that wins 4 fights by ko at the age of 54 is okay.

Azumah Nelson vs Alexis Arguello @ 130

[My2Sense]

Would definately make for an interesting fight Lyle could be put away by big punchers which Ruddock was but I feel Lyle pulls this one out by mid round kay. Plus any guy that wins 4 fights by ko at the age of 54 is okay.

Azumah Nelson vs Alexis Arguello @ 130

Arguello has a bit too much for Nelson to overcome IMO - height, range, two-fisted KO power, technical skill. Nelson gives a determined effort all the way, but Arguello finishes stronger to win either by decision or late round TKO.


Next up: Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Victor Galindez at their respective peaks.

[PhillyPhan69]

Arguello has a bit too much for Nelson to overcome IMO - height, range, two-fisted KO power, technical skill. Nelson gives a determined effort all the way, but Arguello finishes stronger to win either by decision or late round TKO.


Next up: Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Victor Galindez at their respective peaks.

Saad starts out controlling the action, but either seems to lose his focus by the 5th or 6th...by the 8th he is in bad shape....but in the 9th he comes on strong after seeming to be out on his feet...in the 10th he drops galindez, and finishes him off in the 11th!!!!

John John Molina vs Alfredo Escalera SFW

[Flea Man]

Ooh, tough one.....Escalera by late stoppage maybe?

Haven't read the whole thread so this one might've been done already, but Carlos Ortiz vs. JCC at LW.

[WhataRock]

Ortiz on points...Such a well balanced and skilled fighter, I think he has an answer for everything Chavez throws at him. His chin takes Chavez's power, his skill would deal with JCC's pressure and he wont be manhandled by Julio either.
Thats not to say Chavez wont push him all the way and will rain down hell later on knowing he is behind.
Carlos weathers it a takes the clear points verdict.


Rocky Lockridge vs Manuel Medina

[Flea Man]

Depends which Medina shows up. Lockridge's best performance was probably against a way past it Gomez, which he deserved to win (as most will know, I'm a huge Gomez fan, but boy he did not deserve that decision)

I'd say Lockridge wins a decision.

Scott Harrison vs. Barry McGuigan.

[teeto]

Hard to say, I mean considering their styles, a strength-based bout. Harrison was so strong, but McGuigan was that bit more fluid and i know Medina is the complete opposite to Barry, but it could be said that Manuel showed Harrison is not too hard to find, which at least means Barry finds the mark. Good to watch but Barry scores more.

Harold Johnson vs. Virgil Hill?

[Flea Man]

Hmmmmm.....not sure actually.

Victor Galindez vs. B-Hop (at LHW obviously)

[Xplosive]

Hmmmmm.....not sure actually.

Victor Galindez vs. B-Hop (at LHW obviously)

Galindez liked guys who came at him, and B-Hop definitely wouldnt do that. Hopkins boxes cautiously and wins a decision.

Pipino Cuevas vs Simon Brown

[Drew101]

Galindez liked guys who came at him, and B-Hop definitely wouldnt do that. Hopkins boxes cautiously and wins a decision.

Pipino Cuevas vs Simon Brown

I might be in the minority on this but I think Brown, while not quite as hard a puncher as Pipino, hit hard enough at 147lbs to get Cuevas' respect, and possessed enough of an edge in terms of speed and skill to survive some shaky momements and assume control late to win a close decision in which both fighters come off the mat.

We're doing two.

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales
Saoul Mamby vs. Freddie Pendleton (battle of the journeyman champions)

[dnr0720]

I might be in the minority on this but I think Brown, while not quite as hard a puncher as Pipino, hit hard enough at 147lbs to get Cuevas' respect, and possessed enough of an edge in terms of speed and skill to survive some shaky momements and assume control late to win a close decision in which both fighters come off the mat.

We're doing two.

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales
Saoul Mamby vs. Freddie Pendleton (battle of the journeyman champions)

I can see Canizalez wearing down Chandler and stopping him Late.

Pendleton for that short period fought extremely well. Mamby who had very little punching power may have started well but Pendleton also would wear him down and stop him late.

Sean O'grady vs Ray Mancini

[Xplosive]

I can see Canizalez wearing down Chandler and stopping him Late.

Pendleton for that short period fought extremely well. Mamby who had very little punching power may have started well but Pendleton also would wear him down and stop him late.

Sean O'grady vs Ray Mancini

I just made a thread on this recently. Anyway, I think Ray would have stopped O'Grady in about 6 or 7 action packed rounds. Just too strong for O'Grady, and too relentless.

Howard Davis vs Ismael Laguna

[My2Sense]

Howard Davis vs Ismael Laguna

Laguna, the better and guttier fighter, outmaneuvers/outhustles Davis to a clear decision win.


Next up: Jimmy McLarnin vs. Tszyu @140

[dnr0720]

I just made a thread on this recently. Anyway, I think Ray would have stopped O'Grady in about 6 or 7 action packed rounds. Just too strong for O'Grady, and too relentless.



Sorry about that didn't see the thread

[Xplosive]

Sorry about that didn't see the thread

Its all good.

And Ive never seen McLarnin fight so I cant see how he does vs Tszyu.

Ruben Carter vs Bennie Briscoe

[My2Sense]

Its all good.

And Ive never seen McLarnin fight so I cant see how he does vs Tszyu.

Ruben Carter vs Bennie Briscoe

Oi! What's up with people skipping matches now??

:twisted: :fire

[AlFrancis]

Hard to say, I mean considering their styles, a strength-based bout. Harrison was so strong, but McGuigan was that bit more fluid and i know Medina is the complete opposite to Barry, but it could be said that Manuel showed Harrison is not too hard to find, which at least means Barry finds the mark. Good to watch but Barry scores more.

Harold Johnson vs. Virgil Hill?

Good a boxer as Hill was I see Johnson outpointing him. A better schooled fighter.

Walter McGowan vs Miguel Canto.

[WhataRock]

Good a boxer as Hill was I see Johnson outpointing him. A better schooled fighter.

Walter McGowan vs Miguel Canto.


My knowledge on both, especially McGowan is sparse...Seen a bit of film of Canto and even less of McGowan.

So Ill say Canto frustrates and edges out McGowan for most rounds contested until Walter is stopped on cuts with a few rounds to go.

Chris Eubank vs Koichi Wajima @ 160.

[la-califa]

My knowledge on both, especially McGowan is sparse...Seen a bit of film of Canto and even less of McGowan.

So Ill say Canto frustrates and edges out McGowan for most rounds contested until Walter is stopped on cuts with a few rounds to go.

Chris Eubank vs Koichi Wajima @ 160.

Eubank lands too many punches & takes this one by late round stoppage.

Alan Minter. Vs. Tony Sibson

[PhillyPhan69]

Eubank lands too many punches & takes this one by late round stoppage.

Alan Minter. Vs. Tony Sibson

I will probably be in the minority, but that's cool!!! I would take Minter on a close decision, as his unorthodox style causes Sibson to be hesitant in the early going and coming up just short on the cards in an exciting match (that people would forget about and seldom talk about for the next 30 years)

Alfredo Escalera vs Wilfredo Gomez

[la-califa]

I will probably be in the minority, but that's cool!!! I would take Minter on a close decision, as his unorthodox style causes Sibson to be hesitant in the early going and coming up just short on the cards in an exciting match (that people would forget about and seldom talk about for the next 30 years)

Alfredo Escalera vs Wilfredo Gomez The 130 version of Gomez was a shell. Escalera in a easy fight. lopsided decision or TKO late for the Snakeman.

This one's for you Philly. Bennie Briscoe .Vs. Bernard Hopkins

[PhillyPhan69]

The 130 version of Gomez was a shell. Escalera in a easy fight. lopsided decision or TKO late for the Snakeman.

This one's for you Philly. Bennie Briscoe .Vs. Bernard Hopkins

I love both guys, but Bennie's best shot is to KO Bernard, I don't believe he out poins him....I also don't envision Bernard getting KO'd here. Bernard uses his savy to out box the big puncher...But Briscoe had a decent chin (better than decent) and probably aint goin down in this one either...bernard 9 rds to 3.

Tony The Tiger Lopez vs Marco Antonio Barrera SFW

[My2Sense]

Tony The Tiger Lopez vs Marco Antonio Barrera SFW

Lopez, quicker and younger at the weight, continually gets off first and boxes his way to a hard-fought but well-deserved decision.


Once again... :twisted:

Jimmy McLarnin vs. Tszyu @140

No cheating this time, folks! :nono

[Arriba]

This thread cannot die.

I've seen approximately...two fights of McLarnin but for the sake of continuation, I think he'd beat ZOO because he was the faster of the two. Anyways from what I've read McLarnin might be more powerful than him as well. I REALLY need to see more of McLarnin but it's friggin impossible. I've tried. Hopefully that suffices enough for ya :P

118 lb over 15 rounds
Rafa Marquez vs Lupe Pintor

[la-califa]

Great fight, Both fighters landing alot of punches. But Pintor is a bit more polished & would take over late in the fight. Pintor by close split decision win.

Henry Armstrong .Vs. Julio C. Chavez at 135.

[My2Sense]

Great fight, Both fighters landing alot of punches. But Pintor is a bit more polished & would take over late in the fight. Pintor by close split decision win.

Henry Armstrong .Vs. Julio C. Chavez at 135.

I think Armstrong was quicker and more skilled on the inside. I'll take Armstrong by decision in an all-out war.


Armstrong then goes on to a fight with Aaron Pryor at 140. What happens?

[WhataRock]

Harder ask for Armstrong IMO...Most fighters will struggle with weight issues at some point but during his welter days Hank's main struggle was just getting up to the 140 mark. When fighting the likes of Ross, he spent a great portion of his preparation eating and drinking beer just to get in range of the welter limit. And quite often didnt, giving away a substantial weight disadvantage.

Stepping up to fight a physically strong and unorthodox 140 pounder, one of the true nightmares H2H at the weight would be a very tough challenge. If anyone is up to it its Hank though.

I think the Hawk picks up the points with his angles from the outside and deals with the strength of Armstrong with his own.
Scraps through by the skin of his teeth to bag a points verdict.

Jose Luis Ramirez vs Rodolfo Gonzalez...

[TheBradyHawkes]

Ramirez wins an absolute war. Scorecards read 115-113, 116-112, and 114-114, a majority decision.

A fight that already happened, but lets tinker with it a bit.

Winky Wright (2006) vs Trinidad (1999)

[PhillyPhan69]

Ramirez wins an absolute war. Scorecards read 115-113, 116-112, and 114-114, a majority decision.

A fight that already happened, but lets tinker with it a bit.

Winky Wright (2006) vs Trinidad (1999)

Trinidad is game but still cannot find the answer for Winky's defense...slightly less lopsided, but still a clear UD for Winky!

Jeff Fenech vs Wifredo Bazooka Gomez

[Flea Man]

Gomez via stoppage. At SBW I wouldn't pick many over Gomez, except maybe Jofre.

Fenech would swarm Gomez and give him trouble, as his hand worries weren't as bad at SBW, but sometime around the 14th round Gomez would land something big and finish Fenech off.

Chris Eubank vs. Arthur Abraham

[PhillyPhan69]

Gomez via stoppage. At SBW I wouldn't pick many over Gomez, except maybe Jofre.

Fenech would swarm Gomez and give him trouble, as his hand worries weren't as bad at SBW, but sometime around the 14th round Gomez would land something big and finish Fenech off.

Chris Eubank vs. Arthur Abraham

Eubank is cruising along in a dominating performance, when Abraham goes down in the 9th....he can't see out of his right eye at all and the fight is stopped before the start of the 10th. Eubank by TKO

Jesse James Leija vs John John Molina SFW

[la-califa]

LIieja has too much offense & his swarming attack overwelms the slick boxing Molina for a 12 round UD.

Wladimir Klitschko .Vs. Sonny Liston.

[Flea Man]

Klitschko establishes his jab early, but Liston keeps moving forward, hitting Wlad's arm and elbows and backing Wlad up more and more as we go into the fifth round.

Liston then starts landing his own brilliant jab, rocking Wlad's head back more.

As we come out for the seventh round, Liston walks into Wlad and starts throwing bombs. Tired and jaded, Wlad is dropped twice, and, on jelly legs, the referee saves Wlad as Liston moves in for the kill and starts to land heavy blows.

[Flea Man]

Michael Carbajal vs. Ricardo Lopez.

[PhillyPhan69]

Michael Carbajal vs. Ricardo Lopez.

After a closely contested fight Lopez narrowly retains his 0 in a Majority decision.

FW Danny Lopez vs Prince Naseem Hamed

[BUDW]

Hopkins vs Bob Foster

[BUDW]

After a closely contested fight Lopez narrowly retains his 0 in a Majority decision.

FW Danny Lopez vs Prince Naseem Hamed

Lopez ko in 9th rd, Naseem cant take Danny's pressure and wilts

[Sweet Pea]

Hopkins vs Bob Foster
Foster by KO in the mid to late rounds.

Orlando Canizales vs Fighting Harada @ Bantamweight (someone who's seen a fair deal of both please)

[WhataRock]

Funny this matchup should come up..Im loving Canizales' style at the moment and Ive been watching quite a bit of him lately..Some I had seen but I never really sat down and watched a whole heap of film on him.

I was just thinking how he would go against Harada and Jofre.

Ive got his fights with Bones, Vasquez and Alvarez coming..Havent seen those yet. Ive seen about 6 others in full, 4 recently..Plus all the highlights and shorter fights basically on youtube.

Probably comment on this hypothetical after Ive seen a bit more of Orlando because I think it would be a hard pick.

[la-califa]

Lopez ko in 9th rd, Naseem cant take Danny's pressure and wilts
I don't know, I think Hamed could have been a little too quick for Lopez to handle. Would have been great fight though.
I've seen plenty of Canizales but not too much Harada, I'll stay away from that one.

Alfredo Escalera .Vs. Esteban De Jesus

[PhillyPhan69]

I don't know, I think Hamed could have been a little too quick for Lopez to handle. Would have been great fight though.
I've seen plenty of Canizales but not too much Harada, I'll stay away from that one.

Alfredo Escalera .Vs. Esteban De Jesus

Escalera in a convincing, not necesarily dominating UD.

Esteban De Jesus vs Ismael Laguna

[Mantequilla]

Escalera would get trounced by Dejesus imo.

[Xplosive]

Escalera would get trounced by Dejesus imo.

Agreed.

And I see Dejesus outpointing Laguna

Fernando Vargas vs Matthew Hilton

[WhataRock]

Vargas outpoints him, possibly forces a stoppage later in the fight.

Milton McCrory vs Vernon Forrest.

[Mantequilla]

Tough one.Both are quite similar fighters really and while Forrest has by far the bigger profile wins over Mosley, the way he crumbled and fought scared against Mayorga looks real bad when compared to McCrory sucking it up against Jones and giving McCallum a very solid fight.

50\50 fight for me.I guess i'll go for Milt seeing as how despite being overhyped as much as Cotto while he was active, has become pretty underrated now.He gets a bit of a raw deal because of the brilliant shot Curry took him out with.

Winky wright vs Maurice Hope

[asero]

wright wins UD in a boring fight.

today, pacquiao vs marquez @ 140

[Robbi]

wright wins UD in a boring fight.

today, pacquiao vs marquez @ 140

Pacquaio, stoppage.

Duran v Whitaker, lightweight?

[Godfather]

Pacquaio, stoppage.

Duran v Whitaker, lightweight?

Duran close UD after hurting Whitaker late. Bad style match-up for Duran but he squeezes the victory

Conn vs Holyfield at heavyweight? 15 rounds

[la-califa]

Duran close UD after hurting Whitaker late. Bad style match-up for Duran but he squeezes the victory

Conn vs Holyfield at heavyweight? 15 rounds I think Whitaker would pull off the upset in this one. Duran had a little diffuculty with defensive fighters to begin with. & Whitakers antics would infuriate Duran and quite possibly throw Duran off his game. Much as like Leonard in thier second fight.

Conn would be able to move & score on Holyfield early on, but Holyfield's workrate would tell on Conn. After twelve Conn Split decision. But in 13 to 15 Holyfield could take him out. Tough call over the long stretch.

Wilfred Benitez .Vs. Jose Napoles

[GPater11093]

Napoles UD

by using his jab to set up his punishing combos . I think it would be a bit like the leonard fight

Duran vs Noples LW

[WhataRock]

One of Roberto's tougher matchups at the weight..Jose's silky smooth skills and power give him all types of hell.
Eventually however the fast pace and hard accurate blows Roberto chucks at him takes its toll on Napoles..especially his paper thin skin.

With Roberto only slightly ahead on the cards the bout is stopped around the 12th with Napoles' face looking like an emo kids wrist.


Emile Griffith vs Sweet Pea @ 147. The 92-93 version of Pea.

[la-califa]

One of Roberto's tougher matchups at the weight..Jose's silky smooth skills and power give him all types of hell.
Eventually however the fast pace and hard accurate blows Roberto chucks at him takes its toll on Napoles..especially his paper thin skin.

With Roberto only slightly ahead on the cards the bout is stopped around the 12th with Napoles' face looking like an emo kids wrist.


Emile Griffith vs Sweet Pea @ 147. The 92-93 version of Pea. Whitaker slips by with a close decision win, defense being the main difference in this one. Griffith gives it a valiant effort though.

Ruben Olivares .Vs. "Raton" Macias

[AlFrancis]

Whitaker slips by with a close decision win, defense being the main difference in this one. Griffith gives it a valiant effort though.

Ruben Olivares .Vs. "Raton" Macias

Great matchup between 2 great Mexican legends. I see Olivares being just a bit too much for Raul but Mexican pride taking it to a late round knockout for El Puas.

On the same theme

Jose Becerra vs Chucho Castillo

[la-califa]

Great matchup between 2 great Mexican legends. I see Olivares being just a bit too much for Raul but Mexican pride taking it to a late round knockout for El Puas.

On the same theme

Jose Becerra vs Chucho Castillo
Tough fight, Becerra in a hard earned split decision win. 15 rounds. But Castillo would have his moments.

Bob Foster .Vs. Evander Holyfield for the Cruiserweight Championship.

[GPater11093]

a battle with holyfeilds combinations shining through winning a UD

Pryor vs armstrong at LWW

[My2Sense]

Pryor vs armstrong at LWW

Tough to call, but I think Armstrong's superior technique and cleaner, more precise punching wins out in the end.

Armstrong by hard fought decision or perhaps late TKO.


Ike Williams vs. Shane Mosley, lightweights.

[Drew101]

Tough to call, but I think Armstrong's superior technique and cleaner, more precise punching wins out in the end.

Armstrong by hard fought decision or perhaps late TKO.


Ike Williams vs. Shane Mosley, lightweights.

Jeez. Tough match, but I think Mosley's speed, size, durability, and bodypunching might allow him to outwork Williams and just eke out a razor thin decision.

Soo Hwan Hong vs Samart Payakaroon at 122lbs.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Hong by a razor thin decision.

Erik Morales vs Naseem Hamed @ 126

[asero]

EM easily, wide UD

mayweather vs arguello at 130?

[GPater11093]

mayweathers movement confuses alexis who finds it hard to land but comes on strong in the later rounds but it is a UD to Mayweather

Benny Lynch vs Ivan Calderon @ Fly

[teeto]

Man i want to take Calderon, i cant because this is the classic forum!

So Lynch. Hatton vs. Judah.

[GPater11093]

judah takes the first 6 real easy but starts to lose it around the 7th where hattons body work really pays of and judah loses concentration, Hatton late KO/TKO

Felix Trinidad vs Jose Napoles @ WW

[teeto]

Napoles, he has that footwork at the top level that mean trouble for Trinidad.

Glen Johnson vs Harold Johnson

[My2Sense]

Glen Johnson vs Harold Johnson

Glen might give him a surprising fight, as he does well against fighters who try to box him rather than back him up. Still, I think Johnson's all-around class and ability would see him through, and he would dominate down the stretch to win a clear decision.


Next up: Orzubek Nazarov vs. Miguel Angel Gonzales, lightweight unification fight.

[la-califa]

In a close tough fight, I would look for Nazarov to pull it out. Possibly by split decision. Gonzalez would make it interesting though.

Jersey Joe Walcott .Vs. Wladimir Klitschko

[PhillyPhan69]

In a close tough fight, I would look for Nazarov to pull it out. Possibly by split decision. Gonzalez would make it interesting though.

Jersey Joe Walcott .Vs. Wladimir Klitschko

My heart wants to pick Jersey Joe, but I believe Wlad would utilize his superior size advantage and coast to a clear 8-4 UD...I might increase JJ's chances in a 15 rd event, but would still be inclined to choose Wlad.

Chris Eubank vs James Toney SMW

[GPater11093]

nice fight phillyphan69

i think toney wins this using his skills but Eubank doesnt go down fighting i say somethiing like 8-4, 7-5 on rounds but a clear UD for Toney

Ted 'Kid' Lewis vs Jackie 'Kid' Berg

battle of the kids at Welter

[la-califa]

nice fight phillyphan69

i think toney wins this using his skills but Eubank doesnt go down fighting i say somethiing like 8-4, 7-5 on rounds but a clear UD for Toney

Ted 'Kid' Lewis vs Jackie 'Kid' Berg

battle of the kids at Welter Lewis just might edge "Kid" Berg on a hairline split decision victory. in a very tough fight.

Roberto Duran .vs. Carmen Basilio at WW.

[WhataRock]

Not many welters beat Duran from the Palomino and Leonard 1 fights, some but not many.

I dont think Basilo is one of these guys. But is really quite a good matchup, from the welter footage Ive seen of Carmen he was an excellent fighter there.

Duran 8-7 Decision...


Betulio Gonzalez vs Jung-Koo Chang @ 110 pound catchweight.

[Sweet Pea]

Not many welters beat Duran from the Palomino and Leonard 1 fights, some but not many.

I dont think Basilo is one of these guys. But is really quite a good matchup, from the welter footage Ive seen of Carmen he was an excellent fighter there.

Duran 8-7 Decision...


Betulio Gonzalez vs Jung-Koo Chang @ 110 pound catchweight.
Chang by decision. Much quicker and busier than Gonzalez.

Masao Ohba vs Hilario Zapata at Fly

[la-califa]

Chang by decision. Much quicker and busier than Gonzalez.

Masao Ohba vs Hilario Zapata at Fly I would take Ohba by decision, very good fighter. Trajic story, shades of Salvador Sanchez.
Ohba was rumered to be moving up to Bantamweight at the time of his death. Anyone know who he was interested in challenging?

Sonny Liston .Vs. Earnie Shavers

[WhataRock]

Liston early stoppage win.

Daniel Zaragoza vs Izzy Vasquez.

La-Caifa..The logical choice would have been Olivares I presume, if he had caught Ruben on the right night (after a massive binge session instead of a massive training session) who knows how he would have went.

[la-califa]

Liston early stoppage win.

Daniel Zaragoza vs Izzy Vasquez.

La-Caifa..The logical choice would have been Olivares I presume, if he had caught Ruben on the right night (after a massive binge session instead of a massive training session) who knows how he would have went. In a bloody brawl Vazquez would prevail in a late round stoppage by cuts. Zaragoza was a tough competitor, but Vazquez has too much firepower for him.

Thomas Hearns .vs. Roy Jones Jr. At 160.

[MagnificentMatt]

In a bloody brawl Vazquez would prevail in a late round stoppage by cuts. Zaragoza was a tough competitor, but Vazquez has too much firepower for him.

Thomas Hearns .vs. Roy Jones Jr. At 160.
Roy Jones being a little green, and lack of the jab would make him pay here I think.. Hearns would be able to keep him outside and stop him late...Hearns might go down himself on the way though.

Mosley - Buchanan

[GPater11093]

buchanans skill and jab sets him up for a fairly dull UD it would be close as Msleoys hand speed struggles him.

Napoles vs SRL

[Flea Man]

Sugar Ray Leonard by K.O in a very close fight until the end. I say this only as Napoles seems a wee bit inconsistent at times, and at WW (where I assume you want this fight to take place) I take Ray by lat stoppage, in a fight where he is equally elated and frustrated throughout.

Ummm.....Kid Gavilan vs. Shane Mosley (at WW)

[GPater11093]

Sugar Ray Leonard by K.O in a very close fight until the end. I say this only as Napoles seems a wee bit inconsistent at times, and at WW (where I assume you want this fight to take place) I take Ray by lat stoppage, in a fight where he is equally elated and frustrated throughout.

Ummm.....Kid Gavilan vs. Shane Mosley (at WW)

i actually think Napoles would take it on a UD

Gavilan i think on ppoints or late stoppage to skillful for old shane

heres one for you fleaman

Arguello vs Chavez @ SFW

[Flea Man]

i actually think Napoles would take it on a UD

Gavilan i think on ppoints or late stoppage to skillful for old shane

heres one for you fleaman

Arguello vs Chavez @ SFW

already done it my son

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how about Napoles vs Duran at WW?

[GPater11093]

already done it my son

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how about Napoles vs Duran at WW?

i think Napoles smooth skills get him a good lead as he has enough power to keep duran at rane but i do think Duran starts coming on in the later rounds and stops him on cuts (the only fight i predict with a winner bby cuts)

Ismael Laguna vs Roberto Duran @ LW over 15

[PhillyPhan69]

i think Napoles smooth skills get him a good lead as he has enough power to keep duran at rane but i do think Duran starts coming on in the later rounds and stops him on cuts (the only fight i predict with a winner bby cuts)

Ismael Laguna vs Roberto Duran @ LW over 15

I am in the minority I am sure, but I am picking a Laguna decision.

Jeff Fenech vs Fighting Harada at bantam

[la-califa]

I am in the minority I am sure, but I am picking a Laguna decision.

Jeff Fenech vs Fighting Harada at bantam Although Fenech did come on to be a great Champion. However at Bantamweight he was still too green for the likes of Harada. Harada with a fairly comfortable points win over fifteen rounds.

Alexis Arguello .vs. Jose Napoles at 135.

[Sweet Pea]

Sugar Ray Leonard by K.O in a very close fight until the end. I say this only as Napoles seems a wee bit inconsistent at times
When did he ever seem inconsistent? When was he ever close to being legitimately KO'd, cuts based stoppages not included?

I'd take Leonard as well, but by KO? Not happening, though a TKO on cuts is likely.

[GPater11093]

Although Fenech did come on to be a great Champion. However at Bantamweight he was still too green for the likes of Harada. Harada with a fairly comfortable points win over fifteen rounds.

Alexis Arguello .vs. Jose Napoles at 135.

napoles skill set sets him up for counters and his bigger shots do do some damage to Alexis. a close UD 7-5 to Napoles

[Sweet Pea]

Although Fenech did come on to be a great Champion. However at Bantamweight he was still too green for the likes of Harada. Harada with a fairly comfortable points win over fifteen rounds.

Alexis Arguello .vs. Jose Napoles at 135.

As close to 50/50 as matchups get. I think Napoles was more skilled, I just think his style plays into Arguello's hands, even if he'd be leading on the cards when the leather starts really flying. Barring a cut, I'll take Napoles, otherwise I think Arguello's leather might be too heavy for Mantequilla's butter smooth skin to handle.

Orlando Canizales vs Johnny Tapia