View Full Version : Name me a UK boxer who dosent have a padded record?
ok ill start the ball rolling.
Ricky burns .fought a few bums but went up a weight on his 10th fight to beat Earl (then british champion) and then took arthur pretty close about 3 fights later.seems like he had his fair hard fights early in his career aswell as his fair share of bums.
also jamie moore.came up agains a hard fighter called michael jones to win the british title pretty eary in his career.again he has fought the journeyman but some hard fights including a loss to scott dixon.
warrior85
11-15-2008, 12:37 PM
david haye
El Cepillo
11-15-2008, 12:49 PM
what he said ^^
brown bomber
11-15-2008, 01:02 PM
Haye and Burns.... Burns beat Danny Thorpe, Colin Bain and a 7-2-1 Jeffro (who hadn't really lost) before beating Earl... since then he's mixed in very good company. Appleby beating Simpson is good form too...
Appleby beating Simpson is good form too...
i was going to mention that,but i wanted to kepp it balanced mate and not mention too many scottish boxers.or the the mighty londoner will start his pish ...
Matt skelton maybe has a shout...not for the guys mor ethe frequency ...he fought 8 times in 2003 alone.
MattMattMatt
11-15-2008, 01:31 PM
Matt skelton maybe has a shout...not for the guys mor ethe frequency ...he fought 8 times in 2003 alone.
Number of fights does not maketh a fighters record un-padded!
most fighters from any country these days will have a padded record at some level......
"TKO"
11-15-2008, 01:51 PM
david haye
Ditto tothat. Most boxers have some kind of padded record these days but everyone fights a few lower level fighters in their first few fights (except David Reid and look what happened to him).
Burns might not have a padded record for his ability, but I doubt we'd look too fondly upon his competition if we were talking about one of Britain's top boxers. This is all relative.
A true padded record has to be Akaash Bhatia. For a relatively talented young fighter he has only fought 2 guys with a winning record, nevermind a real challenge.
Not padded at all, maybe Johanneson. Loads of tough fights for a fighter of his ability.
Claypole
11-15-2008, 01:53 PM
Although he's now retired, Peter Buckley.
Mike_S
11-15-2008, 01:58 PM
Haye.
FLINT ISLAND
11-15-2008, 02:06 PM
david haye
Haye has a padded record.
He is a World Class fighter.
But alot of his early wins are padded easy wins.
He fought Carl Thompson - fair enough - but too much too soon there.
He fought Gurov and Frogemeni - European - Fringe World Class at best.
The only World Class fighters he has faced was
Jean Marc Mormeck
and
Enzo Maccarnelli
so credit to Haye for beating the two best crusierweights in the world
but apart from that
Glenn Kelly, etc, etc, etc - is padded
People knock Enzo Maccarnellis record
but
Domigueuz and Braithwaite are as good a oppostion as Frogemeni and Gurov
then guys like
Gary Delaney
and
Isamuel Abdul
Enzo and Haye have both fought them
Haye fought those guys when he was at their level though. He was built up, went through the British class, then European and then world. He may not have always fought great fighters, but he was matched against tough opponents for where he was at.
Enzo fought Bobby Gunn after being a world champion for almost a year.
FLINT ISLAND
11-15-2008, 02:14 PM
Haye fought those guys when he was at their level though. He was built up, went through the British class, then European and then world. He may not have always fought great fighters, but he was matched against tough opponents for where he was at.
Enzo fought Bobby Gunn after being a world champion for almost a year.
Good point there Pack.
Yeah the Bobby Gunn fight was a piss take, more to do with ****** that Enzo Mac. Enzo would fight anyone put in front of him. ****** just fed him a bum
seriously flint why do you type like that?
craig watson has fought decent opposition quite early including nuumbebe, lomax, fewkes, matthew hatton
FLINT ISLAND
11-15-2008, 02:18 PM
seriously flint why do you type like that?
craig watson has fought decent opposition quite early including nuumbebe, lomax, fewkes, matthew hatton
:roll: :conf
seriously flint why do you type like that?
i know its really annoying,along wiht his stupid threads (which he has stopped know)
Jimbo
11-15-2008, 02:39 PM
Haye has a padded record.
He is a World Class fighter.
But alot of his early wins are padded easy wins.
No shit sherlock, you mean he didn't fight world class fighters in his first ten fights, what an unconventional approach.
He fought Carl Thompson - fair enough - but too much too soon there.
So the fact that he fought Thompson in his 11th fight didn't give you a clue that he wasn't padding his record.
He fought Gurov and Frogemeni - European - Fringe World Class at best.
The only World Class fighters he has faced was
Jean Marc Mormeck
and
Enzo Maccarnelli
so credit to Haye for beating the two best crusierweights in the world
but apart from that
Glenn Kelly, etc, etc, etc - is padded.
Three fights between Dec 04 and March 05 following the Thompson loss. Not really surprising that they weren't world class fighters.
Two fights later he takes the EBU cruiserweight title and then builds towards the mandatory position with the WBC. Haye fought for a world title as soon as he could but unless you're a Sports Network fighter who wants to fight for the WBO you have to actually earn a world title shot. While waiting for the WBC fight he fills time by beating a top 10 heavyweight, hardly padding his record.
People knock Enzo Maccarnellis record.
Because he has "world title" fights against the likes of Bobby Gunn and Mohammed Azzoui who mysteriously get bumped up the WBO rankings the day before the fight is announced.
but
Domigueuz and Braithwaite are as good a oppostion as Frogemeni and Gurov
At a push if you want but Haye has 10 less fights and you're matching Maccarenelli's best wins against Haye's 3rd/4th best opponents.
then guys like
Gary Delaney
and
Isamuel Abdul
Enzo and Haye have both fought them
I would say worst post of the year but you've probably made about 200 worse.
I don't usually respond to your shit posts about Enzo but there are so many that they're almost impossible to ignore.
David Haye has the least padded record I can think of. It's impossible to fight top level fighters every fight and while you're chasing titles you have to fight some opponents the sanctioning bodies mandate and some fights to stay busy while you're waiting for title shots this doesn't mean the record is padded.
I shouldn't have wasted 5 minutes typing this as everyone knows this (and I suspect you do too) but you're constant Enzo fixated posts are pissing me off and actually making me want Enzo to lost to Banks (even though Enzo seemed a nice bloke when I met him at the York Hall earlier this year). I'm sure if he read this forum he'd register straight away to tell you to fuck off.
I shouldn't have wasted 5 minutes typing this as everyone knows this (and I suspect you do too) but you're constant Enzo fixated posts are pissing me off and actually making me want Enzo to lost to Banks (even though Enzo seemed a nice bloke when I met him at the York Hall earlier this year). I'm sure if he read this forum he'd register straight away to tell you to fuck off.
:happy :happy :happy :happy
couldent have put it better.
Akxtinguish
11-15-2008, 03:25 PM
I think Clinton Woods has a fairly good record considering the level he's at.
nicofly
11-15-2008, 03:27 PM
Amir Khan
brown bomber
11-15-2008, 03:39 PM
seriously flint why do you type like that?
craig watson has fought decent opposition quite early including nuumbebe, lomax, fewkes, matthew hatton Good call.
FLINT ISLAND
11-15-2008, 04:05 PM
I shouldn't have wasted 5 minutes typing this as everyone knows this (and I suspect you do too) but you're constant Enzo fixated posts are pissing me off and actually making me want Enzo to lost to Banks (even though Enzo seemed a nice bloke when I met him at the York Hall earlier this year). I'm sure if he read this forum he'd register straight away to tell you to fuck off.[/quote]
I couldnt give a shit if Enzo told me to fuck off - he may well do so - I have no interest in being his friend.
I dont know the bloke personally - its strictly boxing talk.
Alot of the topics I have wrote regarding Enzo are based on quotes that he made.
Wether he is a nice guy or whatever - dont come into it.
Its just boxing talk.
Good post though - you got alot of your chest there Jimbo.
I had you down as a pretty bland boring fucker.
But you showed you got some fire in your belly and the anger you have shown towards me has taken me by surprise somewhat :cool:
dwilson
11-15-2008, 04:13 PM
Martin Gethin.
brown bomber
11-15-2008, 06:07 PM
Nadeem Siddique....
Jimbo
11-15-2008, 06:32 PM
I had you down as a pretty bland boring fucker.
I am when I haven't been in the pub all afternoon.
Cheers for the pm :good
BigEars
11-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Thought this would of been mentioned already as it's an obvious one to me but Ian Napa. You'll struggle to find an 18-6 fighter as good as him(and it wasn't long ago he was 13-6) and he was fought loads of fighters of British/European level. There's no padding with Napa.
D-MAC
11-15-2008, 10:41 PM
I couldnt give a shit if Enzo told me to fuck off - he may well do so - I have no interest in being his friend.
I dont know the bloke personally - its strictly boxing talk.
Alot of the topics I have wrote regarding Enzo are based on quotes that he made.
Wether he is a nice guy or whatever - dont come into it.
Its just boxing talk.
Fucking bullshit.
You start threads titled Enzo Mac v Ali: who wins?; if Enzo told you to fuck off you would probably hang yourself you sad ass piece of shit.
LiamE
11-15-2008, 10:59 PM
Haye has a padded record.
He is a World Class fighter.
But alot of his early wins are padded easy wins.
He fought Carl Thompson - fair enough - but too much too soon there.
He fought Gurov and Frogemeni - European - Fringe World Class at best.
The only World Class fighters he has faced was
Jean Marc Mormeck
and
Enzo Maccarnelli
so credit to Haye for beating the two best crusierweights in the world
but apart from that
Glenn Kelly, etc, etc, etc - is padded
People knock Enzo Maccarnellis record
but
Domigueuz and Braithwaite are as good a oppostion as Frogemeni and Gurov
then guys like
Gary Delaney
and
Isamuel Abdul
Enzo and Haye have both fought them
FFS man, he's had twenty odd fights and unified a division. That is pretty much the definition of a non padded record. Everyone has learning fights, everyone. The guy tried for a world title in his tenth fight or something.
To put it in perspective he's faced as many reigning world champions as Calzaghe has in half as many fights.
faisal
11-15-2008, 11:03 PM
jon thaxton-he was thrown to the wolves early in his career
junior witter
Boxing Gloves
11-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Haye has had 22 fights, and unified the cruiserweight division and aswell as becoming the euro champ aswell.
He'd fought two former world champions before he'd even had 10 fights,
what boxers do that? Most fighters are facing journeymen with more losses than wins at this point.
He beat Fragomeni, who lets not forget has just become a champion up at cruiserweight, he also beat Rossitto who was robbed against Banks, who is fighting for the WBO title against Enzo Mac next month, and he beat the unified champ in Mormeck and the other titlist in Enzo Mac after, and just beat a credible heavyweigth in Monte Barrett.
FLINT ISLAND
11-16-2008, 09:31 AM
Fucking bullshit.
You start threads titled Enzo Mac v Ali: who wins?; if Enzo told you to fuck off you would probably hang yourself you sad ass piece of shit.
:nut
yeah I started Enzo V Ali thread - strictly boxing.
horrible ugly post - spewing obscenties
FLINT ISLAND
11-16-2008, 09:32 AM
Fucking bullshit.
You start threads titled Enzo Mac v Ali: who wins?; if Enzo told you to fuck off you would probably hang yourself you sad ass piece of shit.
:nut
yeah I started Enzo V Ali thread - strictly boxing.
horrible ugly post - spewing obscenties
FLINT ISLAND
11-16-2008, 09:32 AM
Fucking bullshit.
You start threads titled Enzo Mac v Ali: who wins?; if Enzo told you to fuck off you would probably hang yourself you sad ass piece of shit.
:nut
yeah I started Enzo V Ali thread - strictly boxing.
horrible ugly post - spewing obscenties
FLINT ISLAND
11-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Fucking bullshit.
You start threads titled Enzo Mac v Ali: who wins?; if Enzo told you to fuck off you would probably hang yourself you sad ass piece of shit.
very harsh words
you have let yourself down there
your not exactly on my Xmas card list after that
D-MAC
11-16-2008, 02:08 PM
very harsh words
you have let yourself down there
your not exactly on my Xmas card list after that
Apologies.
It was a bit harsh.
You the man:bowdown
FLINT ISLAND
11-16-2008, 02:11 PM
Apologies.
It was a bit harsh.
You the man:bowdown
:good
Beeston Brawler
11-17-2008, 05:15 AM
Nadeem Siddique seems to be on a mission to beat every bum fighter in the country :deal
Back to topic, Appleby has pretty good form stepping up to face Simpson - but we don't have any DLH's with a record missing a losing fighter.
"TKO"
11-17-2008, 05:33 AM
jon thaxton-he was thrown to the wolves early in his career
junior witter
Witter doesn't have a padded record? I must have dreamt those 14 straight stiffs he knocked over in the 5 years following the Judah fight then!!
Beeston Brawler
11-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Thaxton is a good call, but Witter's record is more padded than Hatton and Calzaghe put together.
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