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Tko4
11-15-2008, 08:26 PM
I'm a little early, but here's the "official" thread! Lesnar vs. Couture! Let's get ready to ruuuumble!

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Go Randy!!!

El Puma
11-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Go Randy!!!

Tko4
11-15-2008, 08:41 PM
Anyone cheering for Brock? I didn't mind him before the Herring fight, but his rodeo antics were a bit much. I'd like to see the old man on Brock's back, smacking his fat head with punches until he cries for his mama.

boxingcar
11-15-2008, 08:44 PM
I think Lesnar has the potential to pull a "lay and pray" scenario and ruin this fight. He'll play it safe and trying to win by UD with his size advantage & top wrestling abilities...

Couture needs to find a way to submit Lesnar's ass asap. Or else he's in for a long night.

I still can't decide which one will win..

Or maybe there's going to be a surprising ending...A brutal KO maybe ?

Hopefully there won't be any cut stoppage.

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 08:44 PM
Anyone cheering for Brock? I didn't mind him before the Herring fight, but his rodeo antics were a bit much. I'd like to see the old man on Brock's back, smacking his fat head with punches until he cries for his mama.

Yeah, I'll go for Brock then to even up the sides.

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Oh yeah also, what time does this fight start GMT?

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Oh yeah also, what time does this event start GMT?

Tko4
11-15-2008, 09:07 PM
Oh yeah also, what time does this event start GMT?

The fights should start in about 50 minutes: 10 EST, 7 PST.

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 09:09 PM
Ok, so 3am GMT.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 09:14 PM
Ok, so 3am GMT.

Yep, that sounds about right.

jimmie
11-15-2008, 09:38 PM
I say we all head the discussion into the chat tonight so we can all react to everything.

eze
11-15-2008, 09:46 PM
Im in chat. I might do a RD by RD for Lacy-Taylor first.

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 09:47 PM
Just to the RBR in the thread. The Chat is terrible.

jimmie
11-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Im in chat. I might do a RD by RD for Lacy-Taylor first.

Well screw that I dont feel like seeing boxing fans run there mouth its annoying and pathetic there insecurity and ignorance that is.

chimba
11-15-2008, 09:49 PM
gurgel lost again...hes out of the ufc..hopefully

Action
11-15-2008, 09:52 PM
Live pre-fight feed

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

jimmie
11-15-2008, 09:54 PM
Na hes going to stick around hes Richs BFF.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:01 PM
who's the first fight?

eze
11-15-2008, 10:01 PM
Understandable Jimmie.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 10:02 PM
Here we go!

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:04 PM
I might stop by the chat, but I'll be in the thread for the most part. I'm too lazy to chat, plus, I can't watch as closely. Alright, time to get this thing kicked off!

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:08 PM
Good fight here Maia vs Quarry good heavy handed wrestler vs the beautiful BJJ artist.

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Ill try round by round like the olds days in 07 when I did it just for something to do simply watching the fight on my CP hurts my eyes and back.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Everytime I see Bruce Buffer's face I instantly think "plastic surgery".

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:16 PM
Well I lost my stream when Maia mounted Nate damnit.

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:18 PM
Maia is freaking awesome.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:18 PM
I like Quarry but he had no chance there.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 10:19 PM
Nice to see some smooth jiujitsu like that. Maia is fantastic.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 10:19 PM
Well I lost my stream when Maia mounted Nate damnit.

Maia never lost hold of him and was able to wrap his arm around his neck, the other guy tapped, and won in about a minute or so.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:21 PM
fucking streams

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:21 PM
Nasty kiss between Quarry and Maia. That does little to stop the rumors of being gay. j/k Maia's BJJ is fucking awesome. Quarry had no shot once they hit the canvas. I'm looking forward to seeing Maia in the future.

chimba
11-15-2008, 10:21 PM
Damn now Maia just called out Bisping....this is not good for the count lol

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:23 PM
Damn now Maia just called out Bisping....this is not good for the count lol

Dana loves Mikey. He'll keep the Great Brit-Hype as far from Maia as he possibly can.

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 10:24 PM
I feel a KO from GG

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 10:25 PM
fucking streamsDo you have ***Player

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 10:28 PM
GG Coming out to Danzig!!!!!:rofl

MOTHA

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:29 PM
I like the Stacy Kiebler avatar. Yummy.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:29 PM
Do you have ***Playernot sure man, so i doubt it. watching on ******tv on a mac book

chimba
11-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Dana loves Mikey. He'll keep the Great Brit-Hype as far from Maia as he possibly can.

Maia is the least of his problems...Palhares, Nate, Leites..Hendo...damn its only a matter of time.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Live pre-fight feed

My friend, you better edit that post before the admins ban you. :good

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Crowded and talented heavyweight division? What division is Goldie talking about?

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 10:32 PM
I don't care how much they pay me, I'd never put a sponsor with the word Condom on my tail.

Wow. That was sudden.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:32 PM
Goldie is full of so much shit

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 10:32 PM
This guy looks sloppy as hell

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:33 PM
love that one extra punch

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:34 PM
Well, that was a complete mismatch. A mediocre wrestler versus a better striker and great jiu jitsu guy.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 10:34 PM
Nice mix of strikes from Gonzaga. Hendricks seriously overmatched here. Gonzaga seems to be regaining his form.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:35 PM
Very nice ko for GG. The guy has some talent and should fight the winner of RC/BL and Nog/Mir.

chimba
11-15-2008, 10:35 PM
What the fuck is Hendricks doing in this card?? Cant the UFC find anyone more worthy? Waste of time

audio101
11-15-2008, 10:36 PM
Two big mismatches so far, hope things start to get better...

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:36 PM
A confident Gonzaga is a bad man.

audio101
11-15-2008, 10:37 PM
Very nice ko for GG. The guy has some talent and should fight the winner of RC/BL and Nog/Mir.

For beating a butterbean? This fight didn't prove anything.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:39 PM
love that one extra punch
That was pretty bad reffing but quite funny.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:40 PM
Two big mismatches so far, hope things start to get better...

This undercard sucked on paper, and it's showing me exactly why. Complete mismatches. Without Couture/Lesnar, I would say this is the worst card put together in a long, long time. It's incredibly thin on talent.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 10:41 PM
I like watching a few quick beatdowns to get things started.

chimba
11-15-2008, 10:43 PM
Now Im forced to watch a couple of earlier fights that Ive already seen...terrible card so far

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:45 PM
brown fight not bad so far

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 10:48 PM
Brown-Thompson fight was good. Very evenly matched. Nice submission from Brown to close it out.

SouthpawSlayer
11-15-2008, 10:49 PM
lets see whos up next ui missed the first 2 fights

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 10:50 PM
edit.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:50 PM
For beating a butterbean? This fight didn't prove anything.No. Because he is one of the most worthy contenders in a sparse division that has lost alot of talent to other orgs.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:51 PM
Live stream:
You are gonna get banned for posting live streams. They even sent out a email stating they would ip ban on the spot. Change it my friend.

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:52 PM
Dont post links guy you will get banned.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:53 PM
Live stream:
boyd has a huge dickdelete that shit man

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 10:53 PM
You are gonna get banned for posting live streams. They even sent out a email stating they would ip ban on the spot. Change it my friend.

Ahem *cough* edit your post*cough*

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 10:53 PM
oh ffs sake you retards don't quote my post then.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 10:54 PM
I see a Bad Moon Risin'...

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:56 PM
Can I link to a funny story about a hooker and a cat? Or will I get banned :lol:

Boyd
11-15-2008, 10:56 PM
we are trying to help you man. mine is fixed

jimmie
11-15-2008, 10:58 PM
oh ffs sake you retards don't quote my post then.

Fuck off asshole we are trying to keep your blind ass from getting banned.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 10:58 PM
oh ffs sake you retards don't quote my post then.

PM is your friend.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 10:58 PM
Hazelett looks like Kimbo Slice with that beard.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 10:59 PM
Ahem *cough* edit your post*cough*:rofl Got it. Hey asshole you can say thanks.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 11:03 PM
Forza Kentucky!

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 11:03 PM
Dudes got a flexable arm

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:03 PM
Man this Hazelett has tremendous JJ

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:04 PM
Nice, nice Jits.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:04 PM
Wow. First reverse straight armbar (or whatever that was) I've seen in MMA.

BewareofDawg
11-15-2008, 11:04 PM
*Edit*

Please don't ban me

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:05 PM
Dustin's BJJ is looking damn sharp.

Koa
11-15-2008, 11:06 PM
If you ask for links you will get banned.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:08 PM
Guess they didn't get a copy of that memo. It's just that we're putting cover sheets on all of our TPS reports now.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:10 PM
I guess Gurgel is better at teaching than fighting. I actually like Gurgel and hope he gets his career on track.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:12 PM
That omoplata looked deep.

LOL at "smell my butt". Rogan cracks me up.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Sweet come from behind KO by Stephens!

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Wicked uppercut.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:20 PM
that was a bomb of an uppercut

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 11:21 PM
Franca must've taught him those looping bombs!!

Untested
11-15-2008, 11:23 PM
What fight is happening right now?

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 11:24 PM
I think they're showing an undercard fight.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:24 PM
What fight is happening right now?joe daddy vs florian is about to start

Untested
11-15-2008, 11:25 PM
Thanks! Is someone going to do a blow by blow on here?

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 11:25 PM
Next is the lightweights, Florian vs Stevenson. I predict a decision.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:26 PM
Thanks! Is someone going to do a blow by blow on here?not really man, i can update after each round if you want but i like to watch the full round.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:27 PM
Should be a good fight but I can see Ken Flo stopping Joe Daddy.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:28 PM
Thanks! Is someone going to do a blow by blow on here?I'll give you a after the round report.

Untested
11-15-2008, 11:29 PM
I understand, I wouldn't want to be distracted either. Don't worry too much about it, I will catch it from the journalists afterwards.

Thanks.

SouthpawSlayer
11-15-2008, 11:30 PM
hopefully kenflo loses

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 11:30 PM
Get ready for it to rain elbows. 100% sure Daddy will get busted up from elbows.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:31 PM
Get ready for it to rain elbows. 100% sure Daddy will get busted up from elbows.He's a bleeder too.

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:33 PM
Joe Daddys a tough SOB...good matchup

RUSKULL
11-15-2008, 11:35 PM
Good fight either way.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:37 PM
Nice RNC for Florian. Now we know why Joe was the under dog.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 11:38 PM
hopefully kenflo loses

KenFlo wins.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:38 PM
good fight while it lasted. ken flo has been awesome lately

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:38 PM
Florian is no joke, he deserves a shot at BJ

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:38 PM
Wow. Florian continues to impress as of late. Complete domination by Kenny.

SouthpawSlayer
11-15-2008, 11:39 PM
KenFlo wins.]


yeah watchin it here, bj will kill him

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:39 PM
KenFlo has always been a primarily jiu jitsu fighter in my head. I don't know what Rogan is talking about when he says people forget that...

ravtrav
11-15-2008, 11:39 PM
I can't wait to see BJ whip his ass!

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:40 PM
I understand, I wouldn't want to be distracted either. Don't worry too much about it, I will catch it from the journalists afterwards.

Thanks.ken flo won by RNC. good fight while they were standing. Florian ook him down with about 2mins left and worked his way into the choke. great show by Ken Flo.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:41 PM
B.J. is going to bend KenFlo over the table and make a porno film with him.

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 11:41 PM
What happened? Come on guys, clue some of us in.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:42 PM
What happened? Come on guys, clue some of us in.

KenFlo won via rearnaked choke, then said he wanted to kill B.J. Penn.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:43 PM
What up! Hitman Hatton in the crowd!

SouthpawSlayer
11-15-2008, 11:43 PM
hatton was in the crowd

couture lesnar starting soon should be good

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:43 PM
what will BJ do if he beats GSP. stay at 170?

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:44 PM
I can't wait to see BJ whip his ass!

Yeah - unless GSP ruins Penn - BJ will punish Florian.

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:44 PM
Penn has a big strength advantage over Kenflo..And his striking is a bit weak although diverse

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:44 PM
What up! Hitman Hatton in the crowd!looking for tips for his next fight.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:44 PM
MAIN EVENT! Let's hope this is a good fight after an underwhelming undercard. I have a feeling it's not going to last very long though...

Untested
11-15-2008, 11:45 PM
Sorry, I got it. Thanks!

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:45 PM
RNC = rear naked choke? A win for Florian?

Yes.

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:45 PM
what will BJ do if he beats GSP. stay at 170?

I think he wins he faces a top contender at 170 ex. Alves, maybe Diego
then go back down

If he loses he goes straight back to 155

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:46 PM
RNC = rear naked choke? A win for Florian?yes. first round

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:49 PM
Brock coming out to Enter Sandman. Brock's eyes look a bit nervous. He could have a huge MMA future but he is highly disrespectfull.

sugarngold
11-15-2008, 11:49 PM
Couture Lesnar up next!!!

Go RANDY!

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:51 PM
Brock coming out to Enter Sandman. Brock's eyes look a bit nervous. He could have a huge MMA future but he is highly disrespectfull.

Yeah, he did look a bit nervous. Captain America has that affect on people, I guess.

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:51 PM
I love Couture but Im taking Lesnar..there Ive said it...this might be the best weve seen him tonight..

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 11:51 PM
Brock coming out to Enter Sandman. Brock's eyes look a bit nervous. He could have a huge MMA future but he is highly disrespectfull.

...for coming out to Sandman?

As a casual wrestling fan I'd like to see Lesnar take it.

SouthpawSlayer
11-15-2008, 11:51 PM
come on randy

he looks happy to be there

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:52 PM
That guy looks bigger every time I see him. Randy is going to be about 65 pounds lighter tonight, but Lesnar isn't some big oaf. This is going to be soooo damn interesting.

Boyd
11-15-2008, 11:52 PM
randy better tool this guy

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 11:53 PM
I'm going with Brock.

I would love to be proved wrong though. Come on Randy.

Dostoevsky
11-15-2008, 11:55 PM
I'm nervous. Butterflies in my stomach. I haven't felt this since Fedor-Sylvia.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:55 PM
...for coming out to Sandman?

As a casual wrestling fan I'd like to see Lesnar take it.Not for Enter Sandman. For all the shit talking he does. The things he did to Heath during the fight and the complete lack of respect for the Randy coming into this. He's just an ass I guess. I can see Lesnar beating Randy or Randy waiting and Lesnar might gas. You can never count Randy out.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 11:56 PM
Not for Enter Sandman. For all the shit talking he does. The things he did to Heath during the fight and the complete lack of respect for the Randy coming into this. He's just an ass I guess. I can see Lesnar beating Randy or Randy waiting and Lesnar might gas. You can never count Randy out.

He's just playing the heel. Heels sell tickets.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:56 PM
I'm 100% with you Dost. The legend has to come to and end sometime.

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:56 PM
Damn not alot are picking Brock..I understand that.

Tko4
11-15-2008, 11:56 PM
I'm nervous. Butterflies in my stomach. I haven't felt this since Fedor-Sylvia.

Yeah, me too. It's nuts. I think this fight could end either way and in the first minute, so I have nooo clue what's going to happen.

J_Roth
11-15-2008, 11:57 PM
He's just playing the heel. Heels sell tickets.Let's leave pro wrestling out of this. Next thing you'll tell me is your taking Randy by Rock Bottom.

Flyin Ryan
11-15-2008, 11:57 PM
Yeah, me too. It's nuts. I think this fight could end either way and in the first minute, so I have nooo clue what's going to happen.

Whatever the result, you're going to get a lot of handwringing and people saying "we should've known, it's so obvious..." :D

chimba
11-15-2008, 11:58 PM
this could be a momentous moment in MMA..Thats why I picked Brock

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:00 AM
Brock with a take down, Randy reverses and Brock reverses

younghypnotiq
11-16-2008, 12:01 AM
broock is going down

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:03 AM
Excellent first round. Had Brock not grabbed the cage twice Randy would have taken him down. Brock looks winded too.

Flyin Ryan
11-16-2008, 12:03 AM
Lesnar round.

SouthpawSlayer
11-16-2008, 12:03 AM
randy done well

rd goes to lesnar slightly

come on randy

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:03 AM
Whats up Dan?

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:04 AM
even round, very slight edge to Brock

sugarngold
11-16-2008, 12:04 AM
Randy survived round one - turned the tables near the end. Good showing by both. Lesnar pacing himself.

SouthpawSlayer
11-16-2008, 12:04 AM
lesnar lands a big shot

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:05 AM
Brock cut on right eye and it is bothering him.

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:07 AM
Brock stops Randy. FUCK!

SouthpawSlayer
11-16-2008, 12:07 AM
bollox

Boyd
11-16-2008, 12:07 AM
shit

Flyin Ryan
11-16-2008, 12:07 AM
What happened to Couture?

Ah on replay, hit the temple. It looked worse in replay than it did live.

younghypnotiq
11-16-2008, 12:08 AM
no way a dude that's 2-1 just became the heavyweight champ of ufc ...

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:08 AM
Thats it!! Brock!!!

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:08 AM
Fuck. Just way too big.

Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 12:08 AM
SHit...what ahppened.

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:08 AM
new era has started...World class athletes in prime can do it

sugarngold
11-16-2008, 12:09 AM
Brock caught him with a right hand. Followed up and pounded the grounded Couture for the TKO. Bummer.

Time to get my faggy avatar.

ravtrav
11-16-2008, 12:09 AM
Fuck a Brock

Fedor Em
11-16-2008, 12:09 AM
Fuck this pisses me off. What a sad day for MMA. :-(

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:09 AM
The only people beating Lesnar are going to be good submission fighters because he's a damn mammoth.

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:09 AM
My hockey team lost and Brock Lesnar is UFC champion. Worst Saturday ever.

SouthpawSlayer
11-16-2008, 12:10 AM
sable stilll looks fine and she is preggers

lesnar wins by ko, couture couldnt stand with him

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:10 AM
SHit...what ahppened.

Brock outstruck Randy..and too much power in those hands..and the man can take a punch

Blacc Jesus
11-16-2008, 12:10 AM
HAH!
I told you fucks!

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:10 AM
Get ready for the "WWE wrestler better than Fedor!" threads.

Flyin Ryan
11-16-2008, 12:10 AM
Fuck this pisses me off. What a sad day for MMA. :-(

See what I said? Lesnar will make an awesome heel champion (and that's not pro wrestling, there's faces and heels in boxing and UFC too). Everyone is going to cheer hard for whoever fights Lesnar in every defense he makes.

FibreOptic
11-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Brock is a big dude. Time for Couture to retire.

Fedor Em
11-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Get ready for the "WWE wrestler better than Fedor!" threads.

The thought just makes me wanna puke.

sugarngold
11-16-2008, 12:11 AM
My hockey team lost and Brock Lesnar is UFC champion. Worst Saturday ever.

lol

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Lesnar is just too massive. Randy just got caught by a massive right hand. I hate to see Randy beaten up. Such a humble legend and ambassador for the sport.

Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Fuck. Brock sounds like the real deal.
Fast, agile, powerful, strong, good chin. If he becomes good at defending submissions ala Sherk then........he's unstoppable.

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Get ready for the "WWE wrestler better than Fedor!" threads.

lol nah Fedor will sub him..but it took Brock a year to get on top and he barely knows MMA..Makes you think what prime Angle would have done

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Brock is a big dude. Time for Couture to retire.

45-year-old LHW fighting at HW. Gotta love Couture. Big balls on that guy.

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:13 AM
Randy said he has bug ham hocks for hands and called him a huge son of a bitch. LMAO

Boyd
11-16-2008, 12:13 AM
randy is still class

sugarngold
11-16-2008, 12:13 AM
Randy just got caught. He was giving a good account of himself up to the stoppage.

J_Roth
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
45-year-old LHW fighting at HW. Gotta love Couture. Big balls on that guy.I wondered how long it would take time and size at hw to catch up to Randy.

Flyin Ryan
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
So Lesnar-Nogueira or Lesnar-Mir II?

Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
Now relying on Nog too step up and win this tourney.

sugarngold
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
So Lesnar-Nogueira or Lesnar-Mir II?

Either way is bad for Lesnar. No way he makes it past those guys.

Fedor Em
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
So Lesnar-Nogueira or Lesnar-Mir II?

Nog baby :yep

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
I'm scared to venture past this thread. How many horrible threads having boxing fans started here?

Sweet Pea
11-16-2008, 12:16 AM
Either way is bad for Lesnar. No way he makes it past those guys.He could easily beat Mir in a rematch. I'd pick Nogueira to sub him though.

Carlos Primera
11-16-2008, 12:17 AM
lol nah Fedor will sub him..but it took Brock a year to get on top and he barely knows MMA..Makes you think what prime Angle would have done
angle is'nt a freak like lesnar though. so far, he's gotten by through pure physical attributes.

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:18 AM
Either way is bad for Lesnar. No way he makes it past those guys.

lol Brock will pound Nog at this moment...Dana is squeezing every last drop of milk out of Nog. Mir is the luckiest guy in the UFC, he wont even get past Nog.

Fedor is the one that can beat Brock... This might be enough for Dana to make a push for Fedor.

Arlovski too with his athleticism and if his head is screwed on right

LONE WOLF
11-16-2008, 12:18 AM
I think someone with good BJ will sub Brock. But he did well today. Not great, but ok.

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:19 AM
angle is'nt a freak like lesnar though. so far, he's gotten by through pure physical attributes.

But think about how many times Angle has tooled Lesnar on the mat..that says alot.

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:21 AM
lol Brock will pound Nog at this moment...Dana is squeezing every last drop of milk out of Nog. Mir is the luckiest guy in the UFC, he wont even get past Nog.

Fedor is the one that can beat Brock... This might be enough for Dana to make a push for Fedor.

Arlovski too with his athleticism and if his head is screwed on right\

Fedor would crush Brock. I think Brock would take Arvloski though, because he would just shoot. Arvloski doesn't have great takedown defense and would be useless on the ground.

Blacc Jesus
11-16-2008, 12:21 AM
45-year-old LHW fighting at HW. Gotta love Couture. Big balls on that guy.
Yep. Major props to Randy.

Untested
11-16-2008, 12:21 AM
Are you talking amateur wrestling? I didn't know they ever wrestled agaist each other. Angle is a bit older... also smaller I would think, though both were heaveyweights.

Arriba
11-16-2008, 12:22 AM
Maybe being new to MMA has me a tad eskewed here but...is this a BAD thing.

Couture had one foot in the door way one foot out right? Now he can retire with dignity and do commentating (which he's tremendous at) while Lesnar faces Nog/Mir. It's not like Lesnar is unbeatable either so the finals of this tournament should be really good.

I also don't think Lesnar is as awful as some people here are making him out to be but that's another story for another time.

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:23 AM
I'd like to see Lesnar vs. Gonzaga. That fight kinda turns me on just thinking about it.

Flyin Ryan
11-16-2008, 12:26 AM
Are you talking amateur wrestling? I didn't know they ever wrestled agaist each other. Angle is a bit older... also smaller I would think, though both were heaveyweights.

Supposedly they decided one day to do the wrestling for real backstage (this is a story that's a bit like all the boxing stories where so and so beat this big star in a sparring session), and Angle always says he won, but per Dave Meltzer on people he talked to that watched, it was fairly equal.

Untested
11-16-2008, 12:27 AM
It wouldn't surprise me too much if Angle was the better wrestler. Olympic calibre is much better than NCAA champ.

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:27 AM
Are you talking amateur wrestling? I didn't know they ever wrestled agaist each other. Angle is a bit older... also smaller I would think, though both were heaveyweights.

Nah even Brock knows that Kurt takes it to him on the mat..and Angle has fought guys just as heavy and athletic as Brock...His problem is striking, which brock seems to know a bit of.

Either way this is moot Angles got a broken neck and is too old to start MMA

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:30 AM
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Fedor would crush Brock. I think Brock would take Arvloski though, because he would just shoot. Arvloski doesn't have great takedown defense and would be useless on the ground.

I dont know, Arlovski when hes right is hard to take down and his boxing skills are getting better by the day.. As with Gonzaga, Brock will do to him what he did to Heath... Gonzaga looks great against mismatches..scary motherfucker but you put him against his match he wilts

chimba
11-16-2008, 12:34 AM
dupe

cdnboxing
11-16-2008, 12:44 AM
My hockey team lost and Brock Lesnar is UFC champion. Worst Saturday ever.

Is it Buffalo?

If it is, dont worry, Buffalo has a very good team.:p

Tko4
11-16-2008, 12:46 AM
Is it Buffalo?

If it is, dont worry, Buffalo has a very good team.:p

Yes, yes it is. They also lost Friday. I'm not happy!

cdnboxing
11-16-2008, 12:53 AM
Either way is bad for Lesnar. No way he makes it past those guys.

Brock will beat Mir. Lesnar was handling Mir quite fine until the referee stood them back up. Than Lesnar proceeded to beat on him until he made a mistake and got caught in a leg lock. I doubt Lesnar with an extra year of experience makes the same mistake. We know Lesnar can take Mir down at ease.

But Nog can give him some problems just because hes Nog and usually finds a way to win.

cdnboxing
11-16-2008, 12:58 AM
Yes, yes it is. They also lost Friday. I'm not happy!

At least they are better than my Leafs.

Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 01:02 AM
Ok, I've just seen the fight on Youtube. It's kind of odd one for me in the sense that it was actually quite an even fight, Brock wasn't dominating and manhandling Couture and Couture was landing some good punches on Brock and pressing him against the cage. Then *boom* in a split second it was over and that was that. It was kind of building up to be along drawn out war of attrition but Brock ended it very quickly when he landed. He obviously has tremendous power.
So it ended abruptly which was very anti-climactic but.....climactic at the same time.....
Randy definitely gave a good account for himself, he was taken dowm I think once and tried to get on Brocks back but slipped back onto the floor with Lesnar ontop of him.
But Randy stuffed a few takedowns and most interestingly wasn't completley overpowered like Herring was. Randy pinned Brock against the fence several times and nullified, Brocks insane agility and speed. Brock was also slowing down towards the end.
I was impressed with Brock, he did control the fight though, and landed the harder shots (obviously), he is one frightening individual, fast, big and powerful. He's no meat head either, he is learning the game and technique. He is a scary proposition for anyone. He has arrived!

Tuffnutz
11-16-2008, 01:05 AM
Tremendous power? :lol:

That right hand was weak but it caught Randy in a bad spot and Randy's punch resistance has completely gone.

The finish was embarassing.

Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 01:09 AM
Tremendous power? :lol:

That right hand was weak but it caught Randy in a bad spot and Randy's punch resistance has completely gone.

The finish was embarassing.

He knocked Mir down with a flicking light jab, he somersaulted Herring across the ring with a straight right, he just KTFO Randy Couture. So you can watch the footage and say "oh it looked weak" all you want but unless you took the shot you can't say shit, you can't deny Lesnar just knocked Randy the fuck out.
That is power.

sugarngold
11-16-2008, 01:11 AM
Brock is a large man - if he hits you - he can hurt you.

Tuffnutz
11-16-2008, 01:14 AM
He knocked Mir down with a flicking light jab, he somersaulted Herring across the ring with a straight right, he just KTFO Randy Couture. So you can watch the footage and say "oh it looked weak" all you want but unless you took the shot you can't say shit, you can't deny Lesnar just knocked Randy the fuck out.
That is power.

Give me a break.

I knwo punching power hwen i see it.

There was no power in that punch and it only had the effect that it did because of where it landed, Randy has'nt fough for a year, is old and his punch resistance is worse than ever.

The follow up blows were also weak.

I dont know how anyone on a boxing forum has the balls to say that that shot had power.

I suppose Seths shot that floored Kimbo had power too? :lol:

AJAX
11-16-2008, 01:41 AM
Give me a break.

I knwo punching power hwen i see it.

There was no power in that punch and it only had the effect that it did because of where it landed, Randy has'nt fough for a year, is old and his punch resistance is worse than ever.

The follow up blows were also weak.

I dont know how anyone on a boxing forum has the balls to say that that shot had power.

I suppose Seths shot that floored Kimbo had power too? :lol:

your an idiot, Lesnar has dropped Mir,Herring and Couture with punches and an expert like you can call it weak? And what do you think someone from the boxing forum will say??? MMA is shit...that's what they will say.... and "you know punching power when you see it" just prooves your a retard, have a 285 pound beast throwing short hammer fists at you and see if how you react. besides Randy has never been known to have a granite chin.

Jack Presscot
11-16-2008, 02:12 AM
Tremendous power? :lol:

That right hand was weak but it caught Randy in a bad spot and Randy's punch resistance has completely gone.

The finish was embarassing.Are you one of those Affliction Shirt wearing MMA Fanboys?

Tuffnutz
11-16-2008, 02:19 AM
your an idiot, Lesnar has dropped Mir,Herring and Couture with punches and an expert like you can call it weak? And what do you think someone from the boxing forum will say??? MMA is shit...that's what they will say.... and "you know punching power when you see it" just prooves your a retard, have a 285 pound beast throwing short hammer fists at you and see if how you react. besides Randy has never been known to have a granite chin.

Who gives a flying fuck if he dropped Frank fucking Mir and Heath Herring?

Frank Mir is one of the most overhyped fighters in MMA history and i cant even be arsed to talk about Herring.

Next you'll be telling me that i can't see the differnece between Sven Ottkes punch and Mike Tysons.

I don't care how big or heavy Brock Lesnar is.

Ive seen plenty of big guys who can't break and egg.

Fuck all he landed from the right hnad onwards had any fucking power in it.

I can see POWER in a punch.

juist becsue someone crumbles form a punch it doesnt mean they're being hit by a bomb.

Randy is fucking done and his punch reistance is worse than it's ever been.

He got dropped by an average shotin a bad spot then finsihed by weak blows of which most were blocked

That's the a fact.

The motherfucking end of Randy Couture and brock Lesnar the new UFC Heavyweight champion of the World. :p

Tuffnutz
11-16-2008, 02:20 AM
Are you one of those Affliction Shirt wearing MMA Fanboys?Yes of course! :good

Jack Presscot
11-16-2008, 02:22 AM
:good Yes of course! :good:good :good :good

The Phenom
11-16-2008, 06:11 AM
Kenny Florian rocks.He deserves another crack at Sean Sherk.

GEB
11-16-2008, 06:53 PM
I am so Happy Brock Won I can Barely Stand It!!!! :happy :happy :happy

GEB
11-16-2008, 06:57 PM
I know alot of Randy Fans are upset right now ha ha ha! :yep :yep

GEB
11-16-2008, 06:58 PM
I don't know how much it matters how the punch landed. IF we are going to analyze the fight, then yes. Otherwise Brock won in dominating fashion imo.

jimmie
11-16-2008, 08:25 PM
Randy got hit by a good shot how do you know it was a soft one unless you where in there which something tells me you werent. Randys shot resistance is not done he took several good Lesnar shots last night not to mention he got kicked clean in the fucking head by Gonzaga just alittle over a year ago. You dont fight and dont train you dont know shit.

québecwarrior
11-16-2008, 09:21 PM
Randy got hit by a good shot how do you know it was a soft one unless you where in there which something tells me you werent. Randys shot resistance is not done he took several good Lesnar shots last night not to mention he got kicked clean in the fucking head by Gonzaga just alittle over a year ago. You dont fight and dont train you dont know shit.
:good

Blacc Jesus
11-16-2008, 09:49 PM
Randy got hit by a good shot how do you know it was a soft one unless you where in there which something tells me you werent. Randys shot resistance is not done he took several good Lesnar shots last night not to mention he got kicked clean in the fucking head by Gonzaga just alittle over a year ago. You dont fight and dont train you dont know shit.
:happy

Tuffnutz
11-16-2008, 10:34 PM
Randy got hit by a good shot how do you know it was a soft one unless you where in there which something tells me you werent. Randys shot resistance is not done he took several good Lesnar shots last night not to mention he got kicked clean in the fucking head by Gonzaga just alittle over a year ago. You dont fight and dont train you dont know shit.

No of course i don't know shit Jmmie because i dont' fight. :patsch

He went down because of where the punch landed, not because it was a hard shot, which it clearly was'nt.

After watching thousands of fight's over the years i think i can analyze how hard certain shots are WITHOUT getting in the ring.

If people could'nt do this then there would be no ESB forum would there?

Randy himself said he did'nt even feel the shot.

Of course he got his brain srcambled but he did'nt even feel it land.

The follow up shot's were weak G & P too.

Now Fedors G & P makes you whince because you can see the raw power.

Brocks G & P did'nt.

Rashad Evans right hand over Chuck made me whince because you could see the power.

Brocks over Randy didn't.

It did'nt because it was'nt a hard shot. Just an average shot on a sweet spot on the skull.

The end! :D

elchivito
11-16-2008, 10:40 PM
damn! brock looked kinda nervous in the beginning and looked like randy actually had a mental edge. brock actually listened to his corner about throwing that jab and it seemed like he didn't want to, but he followed up with that right. if they had a rematch i'd pick randy again, i think he underestimated brocks standup game and expected another bullrush from brock. brock seemed pretty winded while randy was getting his second wind. randy's the better boxer and i'm surprised he didn't move laterally vs. the bigger man. good fight tho and brock deserves the respect for beating the legend fair and square and hopefully he'll be a great american champion. those brazilians are beasts

elchivito
11-16-2008, 10:44 PM
also gotta say every fight was entertaining and thumbs up for ufc and the fighters who were all warriors that night and giving the masses their money's worth. :good

AJAX
11-16-2008, 10:49 PM
Randy did well in the wrestling department and wasn't overwhelmed by Brock's power like I thought he would be. But Brock's standup is a bit underated because we really havn't seen much of it and it's only getting better.

jimmie
11-17-2008, 01:12 AM
No of course i don't know shit Jmmie because i dont' fight. :patsch

He went down because of where the punch landed, not because it was a hard shot, which it clearly was'nt.

After watching thousands of fight's over the years i think i can analyze how hard certain shots are WITHOUT getting in the ring.

If people could'nt do this then there would be no ESB forum would there?

Randy himself said he did'nt even feel the shot.

Of course he got his brain srcambled but he did'nt even feel it land.

The follow up shot's were weak G & P too.

Now Fedors G & P makes you whince because you can see the raw power.

Brocks G & P did'nt.

Rashad Evans right hand over Chuck made me whince because you could see the power.

Brocks over Randy didn't.

It did'nt because it was'nt a hard shot. Just an average shot on a sweet spot on the skull.

The end! :D

Yes Brocks GNP was alittle weak but agian you no the KD punch was weak based on what ? Of course Randy didnt feel it he got KTFO sure he wasnt out cold its more of the case of you know the lights are on BARLEY but noboddys home. Brocks punching power has been proved even before this fight yeah it hit a perfect spot for him but theres no way it can be called weak or average ive never seen Randy KOed by an average punch his punch resistance is just fine it was a good solid shot by a huge powerful man in a bad place that put him out. Not every KO punch needs the big windup behind it like the mentioned Evans-Liddell KO. You know man im not saying oh have to have competed like me im not saying im any better then you because im not what makes me better ? Im sure your a good hardworking man who lives a productive life. Im just saying I know some things from being in these situations or seeing them really close up. In one of my amateur boxing fights I was KOed but woke back up secounds later on my feet I dont remember the shot and sure as fuck didnt feel it I just remember my eyes opening up while im hugging this guy and we are tripping all around the ring. The bout ended soon after for decision I lost and asked my corner im like what the hell happened they said I got caught right above the nose my knees buckled and I just latched onto this guy. Fighting can be very mysterious sometimes.

cdnboxing
11-18-2008, 07:50 PM
I think what Tuffnutz is saying that just because a punch knocks someone down or dazes them doesnt mean it was a powerful shot. Often times its the punches you dont see coming or the location of the punch that do the most damage not the most powerful ones. Its the same reason why you see guys in K-1 take heavy head kicks and yet get dropped by a punch they didnt see coming.

With that said, I definitely think Lesnar does have some power but I dont think the shot that ended Couture is a great example of it.