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FourtyOunce
11-16-2008, 01:19 AM
He is just to big and mobile for anybody
he lost to mir already. he can still get subbed on the ground. gonzoga would kick his head off too.
Submission fighters can catch him, like Frank Mir proved, but his size and strength (topped by his speed) will make him a tough opponent for anyone. His wrestling credentials are legit.
Remember when people actually had debates about Lesnar vs. Kimbo as if it would have been close :patsch
Bodysnatcher
11-16-2008, 01:23 AM
I don't mean this in a bad way, but is Lesnar clean or juiced?
SweetScience
11-16-2008, 01:23 AM
I believe Tim Sylvia could beat Brock Lesnar as he is probably the best striker in the heavyweight division. Before going into the fight, I had a feeling Couture would lose because of the layoff for one year and add to the fact that Brock is too big for him. Had Randy been active, he could have won the fight.
FourtyOunce
11-16-2008, 01:23 AM
he lost to mir already. he can still get subbed on the ground. gonzoga would kick his head off too.
Mir got lucky ass hell,, brock almost had him ko to start the fight,,, in a rematch,, brock beats him,,, don't forget he fought mir in what?? his second fight and had him in all kinds of trouble,, how man fights and mir fought?
I don't mean this in a bad way, but is Lesnar clean or juiced?
He's clean now, but there's no doubt he was juicing back in the day.
I don't mean this in a bad way, but is Lesnar clean or juiced?
:nono
Racist. You're only asking that question because Brock is white.
FourtyOunce
11-16-2008, 01:25 AM
I believe Tim Sylvia could beat Brock Lesnar as he is probably the best striker in the heavyweight division. Before going into the fight, I had a feeling Couture would lose because of the layoff for one year and add to the fact that Brock is too big for him. Had Randy been active, he could have won the fight.
tim sylvia is taylor made for brock,, you think that big headed thick necked lesnar can be hurt by syliva,, sylvia has proven he can get ktfo,, brock I bet has a chin of granite..slyvia trades bombs with brock..... brock would kill him
tim sylvia is taylor made for brock,, you think that big headed thick necked lesnar can be hurt by syliva,, sylvia has proven he can get ktfo,, brock I bet has a chin of granite
It's not a standup thing. Sylvia has a shitty ground game and long, skinny legs. Lesnar would take him down in about .5 seconds. There's only one man with the style to dominate Brock...and we all know his name.
Mir got lucky ass hell,, brock almost had him ko to start the fight,,, in a rematch,, brock beats him,,, don't forget he fought mir in what?? his second fight and had him in all kinds of trouble,, how man fights and mir fought?i know but i still thi k a good BJJ subs him.
J_Roth
11-16-2008, 01:32 AM
I will repeat a thread I made earlier. Make Gonzaga vs Lesnar with the winner fighting Nog or Mir. I think Gonzaga could make a hell of a fight with him.
J_Roth
11-16-2008, 01:32 AM
I will repeat a thread I made earlier. Make Gonzaga vs Lesnar with the winner fighting Nog or Mir. I think Gonzaga could make a hell of a fight with him.
Bodysnatcher
11-16-2008, 01:39 AM
:nono
Racist. You're only asking that question because Brock is white.
Actually it's 'cos this was my first UFC PPV and I couldn't believe a guy that height and build could be THAT heavy through a natural dietary regime. But now I know better. Fuck, David Haye needs to get some tips from Lesnar; they are the same height after all.
Carlos Primera
11-16-2008, 01:39 AM
It's not a standup thing. Sylvia has a shitty ground game and long, skinny legs. Lesnar would take him down in about .5 seconds. There's only one man with the style to dominate Brock...and we all know his name.
kimbo?
j/k
fedor handles him
kimbo?
Kimbo takes off his glass chin, throws it at Lesnar, and cuts him badly enough to stop the fight :lol:
codeman99998
11-16-2008, 01:52 AM
I think Nog could destroy Lesnar.
Cleveland_Steamer
11-16-2008, 02:03 AM
kimbo?
j/k
fedor handles himI damn near shit my pants untill i scrolled to the bottom of the post.
Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 02:04 AM
I think Nog could destroy Lesnar.
Brock destroys nog, cripples him and brutalizes him.
Only then for Nog battered and bruised to pull of a submission.
SweetScience
11-16-2008, 02:07 AM
Isnt there a super heavyweight division in the UFC? I remember there used to be. Brock should be in that division.
Dostoevsky
11-16-2008, 02:10 AM
Isnt there a super heavyweight division in the UFC? I remember there used to be. Brock should be in that division.
Nope never was, Brock comes in at the heavyweight limit, so its legit.
prslol
11-16-2008, 02:10 AM
Nog will probably sub him quickly. Not like it matters though since the guy is made of steel and won't be KO'd. Even survived a Bob Sapp piledriver.
Theres a ton of fighters that would beat him really. Fedor, Werdum, Gonzaga, Overeem, Sergei, Aleks and more blah blah. At least the Randy over hype is gone though.
I'd personally like to see Lesnar vs Carwin after he loses to Nog. I think thats the match up they should've done before this but obviously this was a bigger moeny fight for the UFC.
Actually it's 'cos this was my first UFC PPV and I couldn't believe a guy that height and build could be THAT heavy through a natural dietary regime. But now I know better. Fuck, David Haye needs to get some tips from Lesnar; they are the same height after all.
Sorry, I guess I should have done a better job of indicating that I was being sarcastic. That nonsense about racism actually came out of Lesnar's mouth when he was being asked about steroids by a reporter. Instead of answering the question he got pissy, started whining and then stormed off.
Like Tko4 wrote, he may be clean now, but it's pretty obvious that he was on gear in the past.
chimba
11-16-2008, 02:34 AM
Whats with this Nog beats Brock?? Nog barely escaped with his life against Bob Sapp when Nog was in his prime and although Sapp was bigger than Brock, he was stiff and cannot strike and nowhere near the athlete.
How long have you guys been watching MMA? Are you talking about this Nog? the half dead version of Nog that the UFC and Dana is trying to resuscitate? The guy that Heath Herring defeated but Dana gave the signal to let the fight go on??
You guys need to give Brock the credit..I know you MMA purist are hurt.. Im not, and Ive watched UFC#1...Ive watch Olympic Gold medalist Mark Schultz take on Gary Goodridge on a weeks notice and dismantle him..and he was past his prime. I like the game to evolve and have the best in the world. Believe me Im not naive enough to think that MMA has the best athletes in the world. When they can start paying 1 million dollars per fight, you'll see more world class athletes in their "prime" join in. You make it seem like Brock is some young cat that killed a legend, Brock is 31 years old arguably past his prime as well.
Give props to Brock, he was from WWE but hes as legit as they come.
Rock0052
11-16-2008, 02:47 AM
Sorry, I guess I should have done a better job of indicating that I was being sarcastic. That nonsense about racism actually came out of Lesnar's mouth when he was being asked about steroids by a reporter. Instead of answering the question he got pissy, started whining and then stormed off.
Like Tko4 wrote, he may be clean now, but it's pretty obvious that he was on gear in the past.
The sheer irony of this is that nobody's bothered to ask Randy Couture how he packed on 20 pounds of pure muscle in his 40's :lol:.
Don't get me wrong, I'm certain Brock was on something before (could've been tonight, but he looked a little "deflated" compared to his WWE days)- it's just funny because alot of fighters are on them, they just all don't look as cartoonish as Lesnar or Randleman.
Whats with this Nog beats Brock?? Nog barely escaped with his life against Bob Sapp when Nog was in his prime and although Sapp was bigger than Brock, he was stiff and cannot strike and nowhere near the athlete.
How long have you guys been watching MMA? Are you talking about this Nog? the half dead version of Nog that the UFC and Dana is trying to resuscitate? The guy that Heath Herring defeated but Dana gave the signal to let the fight go on??
You guys need to give Brock the credit..I know you MMA purist are hurt.. Im not, and Ive watched UFC#1...Ive watch Olympic Gold medalist Mark Schultz take on Gary Goodridge on a weeks notice and dismantle him..and he was past his prime. I like the game to evolve and have the best in the world. Believe me Im not naive enough to think that MMA has the best athletes in the world. When they can start paying 1 million dollars per fight, you'll see more world class athletes in their "prime" join in. You make it seem like Brock is some young cat that killed a legend, Brock is 31 years old arguably past his prime as well.
Give props to Brock, he was from WWE but hes as legit as they come.
I agree and to think Brock will be an easy sub victim again is a bit naive and he is quickly getting better.
billyconn
11-16-2008, 04:20 AM
Actually it's 'cos this was my first UFC PPV and I couldn't believe a guy that height and build could be THAT heavy through a natural dietary regime. But now I know better. Fuck, David Haye needs to get some tips from Lesnar; they are the same height after all.
He's as clean as Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Shane Mosley, Andrew Gollota, and Vargas ever were....:good
BewareofDawg
11-16-2008, 01:58 PM
I wanna see Tim Sylvia vs Lesnar. Gonzaga vs Lesnar. Kongo vs Lesnar. Cro Cop vs Lesnar. But there are four guys that I know would beat his ass are Nog, Arlovski, Barnett and ummm ------- FEDOR!
I'm not sure besides Fedor how "you know" they will beat his ass Nog was lucky to survive Herring and Sylvia and I'm not sure he will get by Mir and I think AA and Barnett would be great fights.
BewareofDawg
11-16-2008, 09:22 PM
I'm not sure besides Fedor how "you know" they will beat his ass Nog was lucky to survive Herring and Sylvia and I'm not sure he will get by Mir and I think AA and Barnett would be great fights.
Nog beat Herrings ass for 14 out of 15 minutes of that fight. Mir will get his ass knocked out standing next time he fights brock.
jimmie
11-16-2008, 09:33 PM
Brock is a bad man obviously. Id give the good strong BJJ guys like Nog,Mir,Gonzaga the best shot if they can get hurt or taken down they are smart enough and skilled enough to maybe slide a knee in when Brock has seem in side control so they can pull guard and hes still very green there. Gonzaga to me would be the most interesting all around fight due to Gonzagas own size and strength and his heavy hands and feet along with his World Championship BJJ skills.
angelos
11-16-2008, 10:30 PM
I think Brock can only be defeated through submission. The man has a tough chin and head. He even survived a fall with his neck first.
geppy
11-17-2008, 07:39 PM
What nationality is Lesnar? Is he German, Scandanavian heritage or something? He is like a gorilla.
I have to give him credit, Lesnar was wrote off as a joke losing his first UFC fight so quick and being a pro wrestler.
But really Lesanr was the best amateuer wrestler in the 'United States'. He always had a strong fundamental base to move to MMA. There has been so many very successful amatuer werstlers from eastern europe at the 'World' level, some even make Lesanr look like Micky Mouse. But none have ever turned pro unfortunatly.
Beebs
11-17-2008, 11:59 PM
Karam Ibrahim Gaber tried.
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geppy
11-18-2008, 12:51 AM
Karam Ibrahim Gaber tried.
59YNXojXe_4
That guy is Egyptian, I couldn't care less that he got knocked out. Ibrahim fought a stupid fight. He is a World class wrestler who fought like he was a boxer, when he has no boxing experiance or skill. So, he got knocked out.
At the 2008 Olympics, Russia won 11 medals (6 Gold) in Wrestling. The United States won 3 total medals in Wrestling. Ukraine won 5 medals, Kazakhstan won 5 medals, Georgia won 4 Medals, Bulgaria won 4 medals. The United States is so badly far behind Eastern Europe, which dominates amatuer wrestling. It would be nice to see some of these wrestlers try out MMA.
Beebs
11-18-2008, 12:59 AM
I agree, just making the point that its not only his wrestling ability that makes Brock Brock.
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