Kimbo Slice already got his butt kicked by a real boxer. [Archive]

lightsout

06-21-2007, 05:20 PM

I can't understand how anyone can even give this Kimbo Slice guy a chance against Ray Mercer. Sure Mercer is 46 years old and shot, and this is an MMA fight. However, anyone who has seen Kimbo Slice fight knows what he is really all about. Yes the guy is big and strong, 6-3 about 240lbs and probably juiced up. And yes he can hit hard. But against who? If you look at the guys Slice has fought most of them look like they don't have any fighting skill at all. The one guy that did have a bit of skill, the Boston cop actually beat Slice. And in the other fights Slice has shown that he has no stamina at all. After about 2 mins of fighting he is dead tired. Which brings me to this:

A couple of friends that I know who live in Miami, FL and train for leisure in some of the boxing gyms there have actually seen Slice come in and work out. He hits the heavy bag and punching mitts and occasionally spars. They have all told me that he is just a one round fighter that tiers after a few minutes.

A few years back, Slice actually sparred with a washed up, old ex cruiser weight champ Uriah Grant. After holding his own in the first round, he got completely hammered in the second round by Grant. Apparently he got beat up so bad by Grant that he couldn't make it through the end of the second round. His face was all busted up and he was really hurt. Grant was just starting to break a sweat and warm up.

Now if an old Cruiser weight like Uriah Grant can do that to him in sparing imagine what an old heavyweight like Mercer can do to him!

mann187

06-21-2007, 05:23 PM

Kimbo will get KTFO against Mercer especially if he tries to stand toe to toe. But yeah credit to Kimbo at least he gonna try it and remember he only doin it for the money

bhwbj

06-21-2007, 05:25 PM

I don't doubt this for one second, but where did you find this info?

geppy

06-21-2007, 05:26 PM

Shannon Briggs beat Mercer and he has about the same stanima as Kimbo ,so that might not be a problem.

lightsout

06-21-2007, 05:27 PM

I don't doubt this for one second, but where did you find this info?

I told you in my post. I have some friends that live in Miami that go to the boxing gym, and one of them was there when it happend. It was the joke and talk of the gym for weeks.

lightsout

06-21-2007, 05:30 PM

Shannon Briggs beat Mercer and he has about the same stanima as Kimbo ,so that might not be a problem.

Yeah but Shannon Briggs has allot more skill than Kimbo Slice.

MachineGunMitch

06-21-2007, 05:31 PM

PAYDAY for Kimbo,a few extra bucks for Mercer thats all it is......
I suspect mercer will get him outta there in 2 -3 rounds-

nulty

06-21-2007, 05:40 PM

Kimbo is doing his thing. He's entertaining, and becoming rather successful. Hat's off to Kimbo.

Power of the internet. Fair play to him. If a man can make money he should.

Beebs

06-21-2007, 05:45 PM

Kimbo would lose a boxing match in a bad way, but this isn't a boxing match, and while Kimbo seems to be taking his training very seriously with top MMA trainers like Shawn Tompkins and Bas Rutten, Mercer seems to think that his boxing will be enough. If Mercer doesn't get serious he could wind up getting beat pretty bad.

El Bombasto

06-21-2007, 06:47 PM

I don't doubt this for one second, but where did you find this info?

Whatever buddy, Kimbo is getting KTFO'd

Pimp C

06-21-2007, 06:51 PM

Kimbo has a better chance of being a MMA fighter than he does a good pro boxer. It wouldn't surpise me at all in a year or two that we hear about Kimbo schooling guys in the uFC.

swedeone

06-21-2007, 07:07 PM

:huh

Slice is a huge favorite in Vegas. :think

2smart4u

06-21-2007, 07:41 PM

:huh

Slice is a huge favorite in Vegas. :think:huh Your not serious ?

swedeone

06-21-2007, 07:54 PM

:huh Your not serious ?

Sure am.

Bet $205 to win 100 on Slice

Bet $100 to win $165 on Mercer

I ain't lyin'. ;)

Fighting Weight

06-21-2007, 07:55 PM

I don't care who wins personally, it's not going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things is it?

I don't understand all the hatting on Slice though, I think it's great that for such a small outlay he's become something of a star at his age. Respect to him I hope he makes a fortune.

Muskyrat

06-21-2007, 07:57 PM

thought this was a boxing forum
nuff said

swedeone

06-21-2007, 08:01 PM

thought this was a boxing forum
nuff said

Last I checked, Mercer was/is a boxer. That is why the curiousity arose.

Muskyrat

06-21-2007, 08:03 PM

Last I checked, Mercer was/is a boxer. That is why the curiousity arose.

its an mma fight with a streetfighter against an ex boxer innit?

running man

06-21-2007, 10:13 PM

i would love to see kimbo fight tyson, talk about haymakers being thrown.

theunderdog

06-22-2007, 12:24 AM

I have never seen Kimbo Slice throw a high kick.

That said i don't think handpicked Mercer.
I don't think they had a menu too large to choose from of name fighters.
Mercer was probably the best option but not "handpicked" among Lennox Lewis, Oliver McCall, etc.

i don't know if it is even possible for him to throw a high kick because he i so wide. anyway, you still got to respect kimbo. he's earning money by the only way he know how. as i said before, kimbo should pray he lands 4-5 of his powe punches before mecer lands one of his

Jinx

06-22-2007, 01:00 AM

Mercer KO1

Raggamuffin

06-22-2007, 05:28 AM

Whatever Slice is or isn't people have to understand one thing which they don't.

He don't give a fuck if he gets KO'ed.

Nobody is making him out to be an ubeatable Marciano/Liston
just a big mean guy who will fight whoever, and not go cry about it after he losses.

Yea he got his ass kicked by that mediocare but guess what he is still fighting Mercer.

If Mercer beats him guess what?
He will probably fight Chagaev or Emelianenko if they offer it to him.
He will more then likely get beat up again but he will fight.

He will make good money for it and keep chugging along.
THAT is in a sense admirable because i don't think he will ever be weighted down by managers looking to set up something big or what not.

he is like a rich man's version of Joe Grim.

Nice to see that someone knows his classics.
Joe Grimm, the human punching bag
This erratic figure whas known to do cartwheels after a fight when he succeeded to absorb massive blows without being knocked out.

Question: Which ATG fought this guy and could not ko him ?

albaneze

06-22-2007, 05:39 AM

I Saw one video a while ago Kimbo was fighting with another guy and he did beat Kimbos Ass. He aint a boxer he is some kind of street fighter but with not enough endurance as a boxer.
I say Kimbo Loses..

joe the great

06-22-2007, 05:45 AM

I am suprised that Kimbo made it out of 1 round of sparring with Grant. Maybe if he's actually training his staminia will be better. Still I am 80 percent sure that Mercer wins this bout. I'll give Kimbo a small chance due to Mercer's age and a small possibility of being taken down.

albaneze

06-22-2007, 05:57 AM

Kimbo VS Gannon, was the fight that Kimbo got his ass kicked. The other guy doest seem so fit as kimbo but he looks like a boxer.

good right hand

06-22-2007, 06:02 AM

kimbo is very strong but his muscles need oxygen and like others have said he would be able to hold up his guard after about 4 minutes.

ray mercer is one of the most decieving fighters that i have seen. he doesnt have the greatest physiqe but gold medalist and very debatable fight against lewis makes me think that if anything, mercer will see a window in kimbos defense and use the experience that he has.

im thinking that this will look like tim witherspoon against a very poor mans frank bruno.

Beebs

06-22-2007, 06:30 AM

No mercer never said boxing will be enough, read some articles ffs

He hasn't flat out said it, but he doesn't seem to really be bringing in top guys or going out to good camps. He keeps saying things like "one punch in 4oz gloves..." and "I'm a boxer, I tend to use that as my main game plan" which while both are true, both are also usually what you hear from fighters who lack a backup gameplan, he hasn't come right out and said only boxing will be enough, but he sure hasn't made it clear if he is taking the other parts of the game seriously at all.

Beebs

06-22-2007, 06:35 AM

Kimbo VS Gannon, was the fight that Kimbo got his ass kicked. The other guy doest seem so fit as kimbo but he looks like a boxer.

Gannon is a pretty good boxer, multiple time golden glove winner in Boston, but never really a pro prospect or anything. He also is a state Judo champ and has won a few grappling tournaments in New England. He seems like a guy who is pretty good at everything but can't really either focus on one thing and be great at it, or put it all together and be great at MMA.

He got the ever loving shit beat out of him by Brandon Lee Hinkle at UFC 55, but thats not too big of a knock against him, Hinkle is a fucking beast of a wrestler and has been fighting MMA since the bare knuckle Vale Tudo days in Brazil.

Nokstar

06-22-2007, 08:22 AM

subs so i can come in here and talk trash when whatever happens

barneyrub

06-22-2007, 08:30 AM

He hasn't flat out said it, but he doesn't seem to really be bringing in top guys or going out to good camps. He keeps saying things like "one punch in 4oz gloves..." and "I'm a boxer, I tend to use that as my main game plan" which while both are true, both are also usually what you hear from fighters who lack a backup gameplan, he hasn't come right out and said only boxing will be enough, but he sure hasn't made it clear if he is taking the other parts of the game seriously at all.

Just because kimbo has brought in a famous name for the last 2 weeks of his training doesnt mean that mercer hasnt been working with good coaches. How many boxers reveal what they have done in training? Mma is funny, they all join teams, whereas in boxing they set up their own training camps in secluded places.
Mercer has been working with coaches from ATT, joe Diamond`s acmma and shore kick karate mma for his jj, as well as boxing trainer mike hall.

fists of fury

06-22-2007, 08:53 AM

Question: Which ATG fought this guy and could not ko him ?

Jack Johnson.

smokey

06-22-2007, 09:11 AM

Kimbo is just a ghetto dude who found a way to legitimately make some cash. I'm not going to sing his praises as a fighter, but I give him the best wishes in making enough cash that he won't have to end up in jail.

Guru_Too_You

06-22-2007, 09:29 AM

Whatever Slice is or isn't people have to understand one thing which they don't.

He don't give a fuck if he gets KO'ed.

Nobody is making him out to be an ubeatable Marciano/Liston
just a big mean guy who will fight whoever, and not go cry about it after he losses.

Yea he got his ass kicked by that mediocare but guess what he is still fighting Mercer.

If Mercer beats him guess what?
He will probably fight Chagaev or Emelianenko if they offer it to him.
He will more then likely get beat up again but he will fight.

He will make good money for it and keep chugging along.
THAT is in a sense admirable because i don't think he will ever be weighted down by managers looking to set up something big or what not.

he is like a rich man's version of Joe Grim.

Of course he doesnt care. I've seen him show up to fights in about 5 or 6 different $50k vehicles to his various fights.

The other thing people dont understand is that Kimbo has been doing this for over a decade. Its only since YouTube came around that people started learning about Kimbo, even though he's been streetfighting since he was big enough to do so.

barneyrub

06-22-2007, 10:01 AM

Of course he doesnt care. I've seen him show up to fights in about 5 or 6 different $50k vehicles to his various fights.

The other thing people dont understand is that Kimbo has been doing this for over a decade. Its only since YouTube came around that people started learning about Kimbo, even though he's been streetfighting since he was big enough to do so.Surely the FBI, IRS or somebody should be chasing this guy, illegal betting, tax evasion, breach of the peace, assault, gbh, and the evidence is all on tape.

pit

06-22-2007, 10:14 AM

Kimbo VS Gannon, was the fight that Kimbo got his ass kicked. The other guy doest seem so fit as kimbo but he looks like a boxer.

Palese Gannon did everything but box when he fought Kimbo , even when he did throw hands he absolutely sucked and then resorted to knees and chokes in a "bare knuckle boxing match".

Zakman

06-22-2007, 12:15 PM

I can't understand how anyone can even give this Kimbo Slice guy a chance against Ray Mercer.

...imagine what an old heavyweight like Mercer can do to him!

Mercer is gonna annihilate this clown. It's professional against amateur. No contest.

swedeone

06-22-2007, 12:21 PM

Mercer is gonna annihilate this clown. It's professional against amateur. No contest.

So please explain to me then why this guy, Kimbo, is a 2-1 FAVORITE??????? :huh :shock:

Anyone???????????????

Darthmage

06-22-2007, 12:52 PM

I dunno but the name KIMBO slice to me is funny as hell. I don't know why.

Zakman

06-22-2007, 12:58 PM

So please explain to me then why this guy, Kimbo, is a 2-1 FAVORITE??????? :huh :shock:

Anyone???????????????

That's insane. They must be going on age alone. If I was a betting man, I'd put down a hefty wager on Mercer - wouldn't bet the farm, because Mercer is old. But the odds of a crude amateur like Slice beating a trained fighter like Mercer are MINIMAL.

getup

06-22-2007, 01:03 PM

nercer has gone 12 hard and 10 hard against world class athelets.kimbo cant go 3 hard.how long are the rounds?

i would make mercer a 5-1,6-1 fav if i was rollin this fight.

mercer ko1

joe the great

06-22-2007, 04:54 PM

Maybe Mercer ought to have John Ruiz as a sparring partner.

barneyrub

06-22-2007, 05:04 PM

So please explain to me then why this guy, Kimbo, is a 2-1 FAVORITE??????? :huh :shock:

Anyone???????????????because its not a boxing match, kimbo ihas been trained to kick and take him down onto his back.

barneyrub

06-22-2007, 05:05 PM

Maybe Mercer ought to have John Ruiz as a sparring partner.
He has been sparring with Virgil Hill.

SERGEANT_WRIGHT

06-22-2007, 05:12 PM

how old is kimbo slice anyways i think kimbo might win cuz mercer should b way slow at 46and it is mma rules but in another way kimbo aint gonna grapple an mercers way more skilled an hits harder than kimbo an at his age should still av better wiskers jut look wen kimbos protege get beat by the way lighter man jorge twice on youtube and that jorge blatently has a boxin background i can tell for a fact hes fought as a amatuer boxer defo whos seen them ones

dangerousity

06-22-2007, 05:25 PM

So please explain to me then why this guy, Kimbo, is a 2-1 FAVORITE??????? :huh :shock:

Anyone???????????????

Because Kimbo grappling skill>Mercer grappling skills.

All Kimbo will need to do is to survive 5 or so shots from mercer, grab him and its over. If mercer hasnt trained grappling defense, hes screwed. Boxing is not enough, specially against someone who has "some" boxing skills. Just think of a really pathetic HW top 100, put him in there with the best who is Wlad. Sure Wlad is 10 leagues ahead of him in terms of boxing skill, but do you really think that guy is not capable of grabbing Wlad at all? Specially considering how many *unintentional* clinches there are in HW boxing, nevermind how many there would be with intentional clinches.

SweetScienceFan

06-22-2007, 05:29 PM

Kimbo is most likely going to take Mercer down and pound the shit out of him. That is my guess.

06-22-2007, 06:47 PM

dangerousity

06-22-2007, 06:53 PM

When has Kimbo ever takn anyone down? usually s his ''oponents'' do anuything against his rules that start bitchin and moaning.

Slice is not an MMA fighter, he's a bully who bashes up computer geeks for fun. Even an old shot Mercer should win this!

Hes been training grappling more recently. With those guys he was fighting, he didnt need to take them down as he was able to KTTFO, with Mercer he would be at disadvantage on feet so he would take it on ground. If combat was like a game of chess, it would be the same advantage of having more pieces (rook, knight, bishop) vs simply having 1 powerful piece in a queen. A knight for example would be much more useful in some situations than a queen.

swedeone

06-22-2007, 09:07 PM

Hes been training grappling more recently. With those guys he was fighting, he didnt need to take them down as he was able to KTTFO, with Mercer he would be at disadvantage on feet so he would take it on ground. If combat was like a game of chess, it would be the same advantage of having more pieces (rook, knight, bishop) vs simply having 1 powerful piece in a queen. A knight for example would be much more useful in some situations than a queen.

As much as I would like to read your posts, I can't take my eyes off of your damn avitar! Who the hell is that????? :shock: :good

Nokstar

06-26-2007, 11:15 PM