How will Floyd deal with Hattons' Constant Clinching/Wrestling?

[stillafan]

I think its going to be very interesting to see how Floyd deals with all that holding, and Clinching on the inside.....how does a fighter train for that?? i mean, Hatton has so many combinations of holding....he holds one arm and hits with his other, he holds both arms walks you back quickly lets go throws a combo and quickly holds againso u cant retaliate, then he also just holds until the ref breaks u up.......

Im not trying to knock hatton, i personally hate any clincher, Ruiz, Forrest....i think it takes away from real action...but it the ref allows it, so be it....but how does Floyd deal with that..?? will he have his sparring partners hold him?? clinch him??


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[achillesthegreat]

Who knows. Hattons a mauler and brawler, it is a big part of his game. He'll use good defence to get inside but once he is inside he wants to hold and hit, nudge and shove etc

[Brickhaus]

Floyd won't stay inside to be grabbed, and Hatton's going to need to adjust his gameplan. If he plods forward and tries to grab, he'll get picked apart like Baldomir.

[Danny Ocean]

uppercuts , right hooks

[stillafan]

Personally i think the Hatton has an advantage, because while he is holding and walking you back......hes the only one that knows when he s gonna let go in order to hit you again and immediately clinch....so Floyd has to react to Hattons letting go....sort of like a cornerback in football reacting to a wide reciever...the cornerback is always at a disadvantage....

[Bazooka]

That is an easy one, bring two tubs of Vasiline, inbetween rounds make sure you add a shit load of vasiline to Floyds arms

[Bazooka]

Mayweather is quite a clincher himself! Just watch every fight he's ever had against an opponent that actually had a chance to win...

The REAL question is how will Hatton deal with Floyd's running?!

Not sign the contract.

[stillafan]

yeah Floyd does Clinch, but Hatton takes it to another level....Floy will clinch you if you have him cornered and are trying ot land body shots......thats if you can corner him cause his footwark is nearly perfect...but Hatton Initiates his complete gameplan revolves around clinching and holding......watch the kostya fight, and even the Castillo....i remember saying to myself during the Kostya fight " what the hell is this wrestling"....i mean its effective....but ugly to watch...it neutralizes your opponents offense

[Sweet Jones]

PBF will put that forearm right under Hatton’s chin to get him off of him and create a little punching space, just like he always does to guys running in on him.

[Thread Stealer]

Forearms/elbows, followed by right hands (uppercuts).

Lots of talk before the fight about how Hatton is dirty and holds, to try to get the ref to prevent too much holding.

[EL BULLY]

Funny how you feel Hattons inside fighting detracts from 'real action'. especially when you are talking about Floyd Mayweather. Who has IMO done boxing a great mis-service by turning the casual fan off of boxing. Only an absolute purist who turned a blind eye to zero-class trash-talking could admire such a crass and vulgar asshole.

[Ramshall1]

Mayweather is quite a clincher himself! Just watch every fight he's ever had against an opponent that actually had a chance to win...

The REAL question is how will Hatton deal with Floyd's running?!

take a page outta Mayorgas book and sew a set of balls on him so he'll fight.

[kg0208]

Funny how you feel Hattons inside fighting detracts from 'real action'. especially when you are talking about Floyd Mayweather. Who has IMO done boxing a great mis-service by turning the casual fan off of boxing. Only an absolute purist who turned a blind eye to zero-class trash-talking could admire such a crass and vulgar asshole.

Ummm....the casual boxing fan stopped watching before PBF became prominant. Casual boxing fans had no idea who PBF was until he fought Gatti.

Not to mention, PBF has had pretty good PPV numbers as of late. Just as good as action fighters like Cotto and Pacman.

To answer the question, I think PBF will use that forearm to create space, which is quite illegal BTW.

Something being underestimated here. Hatton has faster hands than given credit for, and he does have good boxing skills when he is on the inside.

[Bazooka]

Floyds numbers on PPV are only because of another big name attached, Floyd to this day can not fight a bum and draw it just wont happen.

[El Bombasto]

by pot-shotting

[samita]

Lots of talk before the fight about how Hatton is dirty and holds, to try to get the ref to prevent too much holding.
this is indeed very useful. toney complained about the rabbit punches for the 2nd peter fight and it was pretty effective.

[samita]

Floyds numbers on PPV are only because of another big name attached, Floyd to this day can not fight a bum and draw it just wont happen. sad thing is he believes he's the main attraction :lol:

[kg0208]

Floyds numbers on PPV are only because of another big name attached, Floyd to this day can not fight a bum and draw it just wont happen.
Really? Baldomir and Judah are big name attractions? I was unaware of this.

They aren't. Cotto is an acton fighter....he just fought Judah. If Judah was an attaction, fighting Cotto on Cinco De Mayo, they would have done more PPV than PBF Baldomir.

People pay to see PBF even if it's only to see him lose. Why is it that PBF-DLH did so much? Not soley DLH. DLH only accounts for a certain portion. DLH-Tito made less in an era when boxing was watched MORE than now.

[twenty1]

uppercuts , right hooks



Your avatar looks exactly like how it'll look Dec. 8th:bbb

[Thom]

Floyds numbers on PPV are only because of another big name attached, Floyd to this day can not fight a bum and draw it just wont happen.
Uhhh...he did 300K+ against Baldomir, and that was up against a free HW "title" fight on Showtime. The Judah fight did pretty well too, and we all know that Zab couldn't draw flies to an arena if he took a shit in the ring.

Mayweather's drawing power is pretty decent for this era. Now, whether or not people are actually tuning in to see him win is a another story.

[BigReg]

Floyds numbers on PPV are only because of another big name attached, Floyd to this day can not fight a bum and draw it just wont happen.

Why would Floyd fight a bum at this point in his career? And when did Baldomir become a big name?

[dragosuhail]

while i get annoyed with hatton's holding at times, i also get annoyed at floyds holding too.

yep i really consider floyd similar to hatton at times. hatton holds more as it's more part of his game whether hurt or not. but floyd holds just as expertly as hatton when he wants a break, reset his opponent or is tempoarily overwhelmed such as in the first castillio fight as an example.

if you cannot see that floyd holds like hatton at times then your simply bias. im a fan of BOTH fighters for their respective styles and admit hatton holds more. but i'd be blind to say floyd doesn't do the same.

this fight might turn out to be spectacular.... or boring. why? because it's possible that the two fighters will hold each other all night long.

hatton holds to stop floyd from getting off with pinpoint accurate shots up close, while floyd holds to stop combinations and to reset hatton.

hatton will go to lock floyds left arm in a lock, while floyd will put his forearm under hattons chin while holding the other arm. it might look like two reeeeally skilled versions of john ruiz in there for a part of the fight. where it will open up more is who is the more fresher down the stretch. and since both have great stamina it will be interesting indeed.

[Jinx]

Hatton can actually fight when he's not molesting his opponent...against Tszyu he mauled alot, but with more punching than clinching...i hope Hatton doesn't turn into the next Ruiz...

[stillafan]

hes more skilled than Ruiz....but he clinches nearly as much....he actually works harder in the clinch....Ruiz does more holding with less hitting.....hatton uses different type of holding, walks you back, hold one arm hits with the other....he lets go then hits you then holds again...

[thewoo]

It will be pretty easy. He will use his foot speed. Look at Roy Jones's fight with John Ruiz and you will see a classic example of a boxer eliminating the clinching from a huggers game plan. John Ruiz will blame it on Nady but in reality it was Jone's speed and footwork that did it.

[stillafan]

i see what your saying...but hatton is a different type of clincher.....Ruiz kept getting warned and broken up because he held on and did nothing...hatton uses different tactics, he lets go hits you then holds again......hopefully your right, i really cant stand constant holding....but its pretty hard to run from a guy that charges you and grabs u......well just have to wait n see..

[psychopath]

I think its going to be very interesting to see how Floyd deals with all that holding, and Clinching on the inside.....how does a fighter train for that?? i mean, Hatton has so many combinations of holding....he holds one arm and hits with his other, he holds both arms walks you back quickly lets go throws a combo and quickly holds againso u cant retaliate, then he also just holds until the ref breaks u up.......

Im not trying to knock hatton, i personally hate any clincher, Ruiz, Forrest....i think it takes away from real action...but it the ref allows it, so be it....but how does Floyd deal with that..?? will he have his sparring partners hold him?? clinch him??


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That's basic dude . . . :lol:

Floyd only needs to be on his toes and counter punch Hatton when he is trying to come in . . . and he needs to connect. When Hatton gets too close . . . clinch and hug him too and continue to go forward and just let the ref separate them. Once they are separated . . . then start the snipping and counter punching again. :D

It could be an eye sore . . . but that's the only way to deal with clinchers. The Ref needs to be pushed too . . . to stop the clinching, by Floyd complaining all the time . . . . expect boooiing from the crowd. :yep

[thewoo]

i see what your saying...but hatton is a different type of clincher.....Ruiz kept getting warned and broken up because he held on and did nothing...hatton uses different tactics, he lets go hits you then holds again......hopefully your right, i really cant stand constant holding....but its pretty hard to run from a guy that charges you and grabs u......well just have to wait n see..

Hattons doesn't charge and grab though not for the most part anyway. He works his way in punching and then grabs after landing a shot or 2. Floyd has the hand and foot speed to counter hatton's attempts to land the shots and then move out of the way before the grab. I expect the jab and lead right hand to be floyd's weapons of preference that night and I also expect him to make a fuss in the locker room to the ref ahead of time about the holding.

[David UK]

Funny how you feel Hattons inside fighting detracts from 'real action'. especially when you are talking about Floyd Mayweather. Who has IMO done boxing a great mis-service by turning the casual fan off of boxing. Only an absolute purist who turned a blind eye to zero-class trash-talking could admire such a crass and vulgar asshole.

:happy :happy :happy Watching Gayrunner get his ugly visage pummelled will do everyone in boxing a huge favour

[JMonster]

by using his jab and boxing from the outside. n when it does happen, using his forearm and right hand

[Alo2006]

Floyd will be ready for anything Hatton throw at him.

[stillafan]

Psychopath....that does make sense:good

If Floyd clinches after being clinched...it will prevent the dirty boxing and make the ref break them up.... i guess initial counter then clinch is probably the game plan he will use, that is if he cannot just get out of the way with his footwork thats nearly perfect....

:good

[rodney]

He makes Hatton eat elbows.

[psychopath]

Psychopath....that does make sense:good

If Floyd clinches after being clinched...it will prevent the dirty boxing and make the ref break them up.... i guess initial counter then clinch is probably the game plan he will use, that is if he cannot just get out of the way with his footwork thats nearly perfect....

:good

Thanks . . . I have seen a lot of clinching matches and it's the most effective. Everytime the other guy tries to clinch then the other fighter should clinch too and make sure the other one can't throw any punches. And if he continues to move forward while clinching the ref will be forced to break it up.

:yep

[MacManJr.]

Floyds numbers on PPV are only because of another big name attached, Floyd to this day can not fight a bum and draw it just wont happen.Only Oscar can do that.

[Tettsuo]

PBF will put that forearm right under Hatton’s chin to get him off of him and create a little punching space, just like he always does to guys running in on him.
100% agree.

[achillesthegreat]

Floyd will definitely put his arm in Rickys face. He ALWAYS does that. He lost a point for it against Castillo. He got a warning for it against Gatti.

Floyd has his own tricks.

[41fever]

PBF is already a track star, he'll run for dear life. If Floyd can dominate on the inside and outside, then........but, we'll see

[41fever]

I like Hatton, he's very rough on the inside. I respect him for that. Your opponent isn't trying to kiss u in there.

[newrp01]

I think its going to be very interesting to see how Floyd deals with all that holding, and Clinching on the inside.....how does a fighter train for that?? i mean, Hatton has so many combinations of holding....he holds one arm and hits with his other, he holds both arms walks you back quickly lets go throws a combo and quickly holds againso u cant retaliate, then he also just holds until the ref breaks u up.......

Im not trying to knock hatton, i personally hate any clincher, Ruiz, Forrest....i think it takes away from real action...but it the ref allows it, so be it....but how does Floyd deal with that..?? will he have his sparring partners hold him?? clinch him??


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Two words = Jay Nady

[Chibuku]

I think its going to be very interesting to see how Floyd deals with all that holding, and Clinching on the inside.....how does a fighter train for that?? i mean, Hatton has so many combinations of holding....he holds one arm and hits with his other, he holds both arms walks you back quickly lets go throws a combo and quickly holds againso u cant retaliate, then he also just holds until the ref breaks u up.......

Im not trying to knock hatton, i personally hate any clincher, Ruiz, Forrest....i think it takes away from real action...but it the ref allows it, so be it....but how does Floyd deal with that..?? will he have his sparring partners hold him?? clinch him??


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Hope you know how he did it now?

[Anglosaxon]

Hope you know how he did it now?
Yep, a backhander to Cortez and the fight plan was out the window for Hatton.

[BoxingFanNo1]

Hope you know how he did it now?

Get Joe Cortez in?