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achillesthegreat
08-07-2007, 03:35 PM
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WBA SUPER CHAMPIONSHIPS

DEFINITION

The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization (WBO).

The creation of the category of SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS or UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPIONS was born from a suggestion sent to us by Lennox Lewis, World Boxing Association former Heavyweight Champion, which we have considered convenient in order to give the Unified Champions a more flexible time to defend their titles as well as the challengers the chance to fight for the title.

PROPOSED REGULATION

We are still working to set the regulation that shall rule the SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS, and we have considered it convenient to establish the following:

The SUPER CHAMPIONS will be obliged to make the mandatory defense of their titles in a period no longer than 18 months against the boxer recognized as the World Boxing Association Champion of the corresponding division.
In the intermediate period between the mandatory defenses, the UNDISPUTED SUPER CHAMPION will be able to defend his title against any recognized opponent chosen from the official ratings list of the WBA or from the organizations it recognizes and with the approval of those organizations.
The WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO will coordinate whenever necessary their respective ratings, to minimize any incompatibility in them for the Unified Titles, thus easing the optional fights of the UNIFIED SUPER CHAMPIONS.
In those cases of controversies that make difficult the selection of the mandatory contender to fight with the SUPER CHAMPION, the organizations will be able to order mandatory fights (Box-off suggested by Lennox Lewis) to determine the mandatory contender –previously agreed-. In those cases when they do not reach an agreement to make the mandatory fight as it is stated in point ‘a’ and ‘b’ previously stated in this provisional regulation, the Purse Bid Procedure will be ordered.

Jazzo
08-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Undisputed Super Champion :lol:

I hope that this is Parody.

RDJ
08-07-2007, 04:52 PM
Soon we'll have Überchampions.

RDJ
08-07-2007, 04:53 PM
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RDJ
08-07-2007, 04:54 PM
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cross_trainer
08-07-2007, 04:56 PM
Wlad should be declared extra-super-junior-megaweight Gigantochampion.

kg0208
08-07-2007, 05:03 PM
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WBA SUPER CHAMPIONSHIPS

DEFINITION

The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization (WBO).

The creation of the category of SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS or UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPIONS was born from a suggestion sent to us by Lennox Lewis, World Boxing Association former Heavyweight Champion, which we have considered convenient in order to give the Unified Champions a more flexible time to defend their titles as well as the challengers the chance to fight for the title.

PROPOSED REGULATION

We are still working to set the regulation that shall rule the SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS, and we have considered it convenient to establish the following:

The SUPER CHAMPIONS will be obliged to make the mandatory defense of their titles in a period no longer than 18 months against the boxer recognized as the World Boxing Association Champion of the corresponding division.
In the intermediate period between the mandatory defenses, the UNDISPUTED SUPER CHAMPION will be able to defend his title against any recognized opponent chosen from the official ratings list of the WBA or from the organizations it recognizes and with the approval of those organizations.
The WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO will coordinate whenever necessary their respective ratings, to minimize any incompatibility in them for the Unified Titles, thus easing the optional fights of the UNIFIED SUPER CHAMPIONS.
In those cases of controversies that make difficult the selection of the mandatory contender to fight with the SUPER CHAMPION, the organizations will be able to order mandatory fights (Box-off suggested by Lennox Lewis) to determine the mandatory contender –previously agreed-. In those cases when they do not reach an agreement to make the mandatory fight as it is stated in point ‘a’ and ‘b’ previously stated in this provisional regulation, the Purse Bid Procedure will be ordered.

Actually he is sorta both.

He helped create the super champion of the WBA yes. But due to the WBA's prior regulations, it made it very hard for someone to unify because they got stipped for not fighting mandatories. Because of this ruling, it makes it easier for the Super champion to unify with other champions.

That said, the WBA is at fault to me like all the other ABC orgs. They should make exceptions for fighters looking to unify.

cross_trainer
08-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Actually he is sorta both.

He helped create the super champion of the WBA yes. But due to the WBA's prior regulations, it made it very hard for someone to unify because they got stipped for not fighting mandatories. Because of this ruling, it makes it easier for the Super champion to unify with other champions.

That said, the WBA is at fault to me like all the other ABC orgs. They should make exceptions for fighters looking to unify.

...Which, at least, they appear to be doing.

barneyrub
08-07-2007, 05:49 PM
Has there been a heavyweight super champion? I dont believe that tile has been bestowed.

barneyrub
08-07-2007, 05:49 PM
This was in the aftermath of Lewis having the WBA belt taken off of him by the court after Don Kings court case due to the wording of the Lewis Holyfield contract. The WBA did not strip, contrary to widespread belief, the WBA gave him permission to fight Grant before Ruiz. They were powerless after the court ruled with King so they came up with this idea after Lewis`s written complaints over the situation.

KobeIsGod
08-07-2007, 05:51 PM
we will never have to worry about this rule cause unification is a pipedream at this point :yep

achillesthegreat
08-08-2007, 05:12 PM
It is a moronic system. If the man unifies then just give him more time to make mandatories or be even more clever and make the mandatories fight each other. No need for a super duper belt and normal champs.

Lewis helped give them a reason to have more sanctioning fees.

The Master
08-08-2007, 10:23 PM
Yeah. IIRC. Lennox ditched the WBA for not fighting Ruiz. Then ditched the IBF for not fighting Byrd.
As far as I'm concerned there is no excuse to justify this. This is just me speaking as a boxing fan.
Sure, it lengthened his tenure as champ and increased his $. But the sport is now paying for his decisions.
IIRC Don King advised him.
What did the fans get?
Michael Grant!?!? (Our own fault. That is what we wanted right?!?! Hindsight is 20/20)
I think he thought he was gonna get a rematch with Tyson ($$$). That's why he let the IBF go. (Like Tyson belonged in the ring with him the first time. The LOSER is supposed to ask for the rematch).
I am in no way saying he would have lost to Ruiz or Byrd. That's really not relevent.

The Master
08-08-2007, 10:45 PM
Yeah. IIRC. Lennox ditched the WBA for not fighting Ruiz. Then ditched the IBF for not fighting Byrd.
As far as I'm concerned there is no excuse to justify this. This is just me speaking as a boxing fan.
Sure, it lengthened his tenure as champ and increased his $. But the sport is now paying for his decisions.
IIRC Don King advised him.
What did the fans get?
Michael Grant!?!? (Our own fault. That is what we wanted right?!?! Hindsight is 20/20)
I think he thought he was gonna get a rematch with Tyson ($$$). That's why he let the IBF go. (Like Tyson belonged in the ring with him the first time. The LOSER is supposed to ask for the rematch).
I am in no way saying he would have lost to Ruiz or Byrd. That's really not relevent.

Once again I've jumped the gun and misread the title of the post. Thought it said "too many champs".