Mayweather should take notes..

[Outboxer]

From this guy, for how to get people to come to his matches --

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Mayweather is, of course, far more skilled and accomplished, but I'm talking about promoting himself -- he's the P4P 1 and he's not a household name. The guy above doesn't even come from America, and he's most likely better known there, even though he's retired.

[bigtime9]

Mayweather is, of course, far more skilled and accomplished, but I'm talking about promoting himself -- he's the P4P 1 and he's not a household name. The guy above doesn't even come from America, and he's most likely better known there, even though he's retired.

has this guy you posted about been in the biggest boxing ppv of all-time:admin

don't worry I'll wait:deal

[RDJ]

Hamed was a clown.

[Jose FM]

MAB prison raped this guy...

[Jose FM]

has this guy you posted about been in the biggest boxing ppv of all-time:admin

don't worry I'll wait:deal
That was a DLH fight not a Mayweather fight. PBF has never even cracked 500k...

[Outboxer]

I would say Mab is greater, too. Not in terms of raw talent, but definitely so in terms of skill and accomplishments. Mab rocks, sad to see that he and Morales are now far past their destructive best.

Oh, and this isn't a Mayweather hate thread -- Mayweather is my favourite active fighter. I just think it's strange how little known he is considering his skills; it's true that the DLH fight definitely boosted his popularity a hell of a lot more though.

[Alo2006]

From this guy, for how to get people to come to his matches --

pfUFYtXNN0A

Mayweather is, of course, far more skilled and accomplished, but I'm talking about promoting himself -- he's the P4P 1 and he's not a household name. The guy above doesn't even come from America, and he's most likely better known there, even though he's retired.

Are u serious, I know many of people who don't know him. Mayweather is a house hold name, but not like DLH, Roy Jones, or Tyson, but he is well known.

[Marnoff]

Bleh, I'd rather he just does what works and not change his personality, then got rocked when he loses focus.

[Jose FM]

Pacquiao prison raped MAB, that doesn't take away what he did.
Jus' Imagine what Pacquiao wouldda done to Hamed...:yep

[Doc BNB]

Bleh, I'd rather he just does what works and not change his personality, then got rocked when he loses focus.

That's the common sense answer. Besides, what he does is already out there. The man came off as a complete ass in the buildup for his last PPV fight with DLH, and it was STILL the most successful PPV ever in terms of cash.

For those pointing out that it was a DLH PPV, not a Mayweather PPV...um, last I checked, all of DLH's PPVs up to that point also included DLH and couldn't do that number. Maybe, just maybe, the other opponent, albeit just slightly, may deserve the tiniest liliputian amount of credit for his oh so small contribution to that one? Ya think? Jeeze.

[Toopretty]

Hell yeah.. Everybody was talking about Floyd after the 24/7 shit. I mean that was girls regular folk that dont even watch boxing. The disorderly mayweathers brung in about 1/4 of the viewers. ODH never ever did that much and that is with mega fights with tito and the super hyped mayorga fight which had all kinds of promotion angles. Nobody is a better villian then mayorga and he dont even speak english.

[a.arthur.h]

Hamed sure had a hell of a good time in the ring whenever he fought(aside from Barrera). I can't remember anyone who had so much fun while fighting. Unfortunately after getting defeated badly by Barrera he seemed to lose that ability to have fun. His fight after Barrera against Calvo showed that he just wasn't the same guy.

I think the topic creator basically meant, if Mayweather did some of the things that Hamed did, ON TOP of what he does now, he would be a bit bigger an attraction. People would hate him even more, but at least he would be slightly more entertaining.

[Toopretty]

Hamed sure had a hell of a good time in the ring whenever he fought(aside from Barrera). I can't remember anyone who had so much fun while fighting. Unfortunately after getting defeated badly by Barrera he seemed to lose that ability to have fun. His fight after Barrera against Calvo showed that he just wasn't the same guy.

I think the topic creator basically meant, if Mayweather did some of the things that Hamed did, ON TOP of what he does now, he would be a bit bigger an attraction. People would hate him even more, but at least he would be slightly more entertaining.

If floyd clowned around in the ring, he would be assassinated by a die hard hater. Floyd haters hate him with passion. They post a deragatory floyd article every single day. NO FIGHTER GETS THAT KIND OF LOVE. lol

[a.arthur.h]

If floyd clowned around in the ring, he would be assassinated by a die hard hater. Floyd haters hate him with passion. They post a deragatory floyd article every single day. NO FIGHTER GETS THAT KIND OF LOVE. lol

:lol: True. I kind of wish he did though. Like when Toney stuck his tongue out at Holyfield, then effortlessly dodged Evander's next shot. Mayweather can definately get away with that type of thing, and it would be funny as hell to watch everyone's hate towards him swell up to as yet unseen levels :rofl.

[Marnoff]

That's the common sense answer. Besides, what he does is already out there. The man came off as a complete ass in the buildup for his last PPV fight with DLH, and it was STILL the most successful PPV ever in terms of cash.

For those pointing out that it was a DLH PPV, not a Mayweather PPV...um, last I checked, all of DLH's PPVs up to that point also included DLH and couldn't do that number. Maybe, just maybe, the other opponent, albeit just slightly, may deserve the tiniest liliputian amount of credit for his oh so small contribution to that one? Ya think? Jeeze.

Exactly. I bought that PPV solely to watch the best, Floyd, go to work. Acting like the entire PPV numbers are because of Oscar is a joke.

[Outboxer]

I've seen Mayweather do some mild clowning I think -- like beckoning for Judah to hit him on the chin in the final round of their fight, or sometimes talking to the commentators while in the middle of fighting. Mostly though, he does play it safe, and I guess that's part of the reason why he's so good. His chin seems sturdy enough from the few times I've seen him hit flush, but there's always the risk of catching that perfect punch, and he's too smart to give an opening for that.

[jecxbox]

America doesn't even know boxing nor follow it. It just isn't main stream here so I don't even know why we would even care if "americans know so and so fighter" Honestly who cares..This is like soccer its huge across the globe but it doesn't mean shit here in the states but the world doesn't give a damn about the United States opinion about a sport. I mean the best match ups in boxing are basically foreign fighters or have foreign decent. IDK I just completely ignore the whole "boxing not main stream" bullshit. It would be nice if America supported their American fighters because the greats do come out of America btu there just isn't any passion to support. When you got Cotto selling out MSG and Hatton bringing over his Brits over seas to sell out arenas...and then Floyd doesn't sell out shit out here, America just doesn't get routy for their boxers.

[a.arthur.h]

America doesn't even know boxing nor follow it. It just isn't main stream here so I don't even know why we would even care if "americans know so and so fighter" Honestly who cares..This is like soccer its huge across the globe but it doesn't mean shit here in the states but the world doesn't give a damn about the United States opinion about a sport. I mean the best match ups in boxing are basically foreign fighters or have foreign decent. IDK I just completely ignore the whole "boxing not main stream" bullshit. It would be nice if America supported their American fighters because the greats do come out of America btu there just isn't any passion to support. When you got Cotto selling out MSG and Hatton bringing over his Brits over seas to sell out arenas...and then Floyd doesn't sell out shit out here, America just doesn't get routy for their boxers.
Mayweather doesn't have anywhere near the casual fan friendly style that Cotto does..so thats not much of a surprise.

[Thread Stealer]

Mayweather doesn't play the heel role as well as Hamed.

Hamed was great at being "the guy you loved to hate".

[digiram]

Hamed accomplished quite a lot as well, while MAB is the greater fighter no doubt, it doesn't mean Hamed sucks. Hamed at his best(if he had actually trained to the best of his abilities instead of being a slacker) would've beaten MAB if you ask me.

But he didn't, so there's no need to ask you.

[1lehudson]

Jus' Imagine what Pacquiao wouldda done to Hamed...:yepI think that would have been a great fight, not sure that Pac would have beat Hamed. Pac's chin is abit more questionable, having been stopped several times. Hamed I think was faster then pac which believe it or not was the major advantage that he held over Morelas and Berrera.

[rendog67]

i enjoyed the video great to watch he had explosive power in both hands and was extremely arrogant who doesnt want to watch a fighter with that package.

I think this post was about if Floyd conducted himself in this manner he would be a far bigger name in the states and i have no doubt he would be

[bill poster]

Jus' Imagine what Pacquiao wouldda done to Hamed...:yep

Not sure about that-Barrera was Hameds worst nightmare- very technical pressure fighter- Hamed got his that night!! Styles make fights and Pac's chin is not as good as MABs; I think Hamed would have got to Pac. Both Pac and Hamed have offensive styles which don't rely much on defence. Would have been a great fight!!

[boxbox]

I think that would have been a great fight, not sure that Pac would have beat Hamed. Pac's chin is abit more questionable, having been stopped several times. Hamed I think was faster then pac which believe it or not was the major advantage that he held over Morelas and Berrera.

several?? yes he could have tagged pac, hamed had that odd style...:rofl

[chliJs]

Pacquiao prison raped MAB, that doesn't take away what he did.

bullshit.

no further description needed.

[1lehudson]

several?? yes he could have tagged pac, hamed had that odd style...:rofl:huh

[Illmatic]

From this guy, for how to get people to come to his matches --

pfUFYtXNN0A

Mayweather is, of course, far more skilled and accomplished, but I'm talking about promoting himself -- he's the P4P 1 and he's not a household name. The guy above doesn't even come from America, and he's most likely better known there, even though he's retired.

damn, I loved watching Hamed, very exciting. A couple sidenotes, that clip where hes breakdancing in the ring, they actually ended that round a minute early---it was that embarassing.

Another, I agree with you in that Mayweather shouldnt give a shit who likes him, like Hamed. Hamed was entertaining as hell, the showboating, the entrances, the unorthodox fighting style, and he wasnt afraid to get him. Be the bad guy, who cares?

[Illmatic]

MAB prison raped this guy...

116-111 in a tactical boxing match...:roll:, wow, what a prison raping

[Illmatic]

LOL, I can promise that not one person in America knows who this guy is. I mean I follow boxing fairly closely, and he means nothing to me, the joe schmo off the street would give you a blank stare if you asked him about Hamed. Nobody knows boxers in America except De La Hoya, but if you were to make a list, PBF would be #2 most popular boxer in the states. The gap between #1 and #2 may be huge, but PBF is #2.

Hamed when fighting was as big a name in boxing (outside of DLH and Tyson and Ali) as there could be. Mostly because everyone hated his guts...:lol:

[Illmatic]

Also, swarmers are always at a big disadvantage against powerful punchers like Hamed. You have to outbox someone like that, like Barrera did, and pure boxing is not Hamed's strong suite. I think Hamed may've KO'd him.

ANY fighter that came straight at Hamed gets knocked out cold, unless you have Wayne McColough's chin. Pac wouldve caught huge punches coming in and lights out. Barrera won with a high gaurd and counterpunching, not brawling like he did with Morales...has anyone ever actually seen the fight or are you all going off of little clips?

[Scar]

That was a DLH fight not a Mayweather fight. PBF has never even cracked 500k...

Funny how you say it was a DLH PPV, tell me of other DLH PPVs that came close to his last. Why didn't DLH/Hopkins make more?, why didn't DLH/Mayorga make more?, weren't they all DLH PPVs?, Mayweather played a major role in attracting people so please don't try to totally make it him sound like he wasn't given a damn about and all people came because DLH is fighting someone "they don't even care about" like you're hinting. It's the fact that Mayweather was sharing the ring with him that made it the biggest boxing PPV ever.

[Scar]

I think that would have been a great fight, not sure that Pac would have beat Hamed. Pac's chin is abit more questionable, having been stopped several times. Hamed I think was faster then pac which believe it or not was the major advantage that he held over Morelas and Berrera.

Pacquiao didn't lose because of his chin, first KO loss was a clear low blow and the second was a body punch so his chin is iron in my opinion. Being able to take punches from class A fighters like MAB/Morales/JMM and many others is the proof.

[Outboxer]

Barrera used the perfect gameplan.

Box on the back foot, circling to the left of Hamed and using stinging jabs, opening up with very quick combinations before disengaging once more. This is the best way to beat someone with the qualities that Hamed had; namely, crushing power in both hands and excellent reflexes/speed, but in a raw, unorthodox fashion that left him vulnerable to top tier boxers who stuck to the fundamentals.

Can you really imagine Pac boxing off the back foot, and never coming in to finish Hamed, even if he had him hurt ot wobbled? Because that's what Barrera did -- he was very, very careful of Naseem's power. Since Pac's strategy is to rush headlong into exchanges with little regard for defense, there is ALWAYS a chance that Hamed would land one of his bombs and knock him out, even if he had to get off the deck a few times to do so. Pac's style isn't a good match up for Naseem's, in my opinion. I think Morales would do better, because he has better technical boxing ability than Pac.

[1lehudson]

Pacquiao didn't lose because of his chin, first KO loss was a clear low blow and the second was a body punch so his chin is iron in my opinion. Being able to take punches from class A fighters like MAB/Morales/JMM and many others is the proof.Lowblow my a$$, the shot started low but ended on pac's chin. you cats are crazy when was the last time you seen someone react to a lowblow like he got hit on the chin??? NEVER that is because the shot clipped his chin and put him to sleep.

[Scar]

Lowblow my a$$, the shot started low but ended on pac's chin. you cats are crazy when was the last time you seen someone react to a lowblow like he got hit on the chin??? NEVER that is because the shot clipped his chin and put him to sleep.

You must be joking, I saw both of his losses and I said that I THOUGHT it was a lowblow, so that's clearly my opinion and calling me "Crazy" for it wasn't appreciated. BOTH knockouts were from body punches(if that's how you want me to put the first fight), I don't remember it being a punch to the chin.

[Scar]

Why would he be out of it and dazed from a low blow? Wouldn't he be holding hid groin in pain crouching over? And why wouldn't he say it was a low blow?

It hit him on the chin and ricocheted off so it looked kinda like a body punch, but look at the vid. You can't get knocked unconscious from a low blow or a body shot.

Yes you can get knocked out from a body punch, not unconscious but totally out, it's called the liver shot if you ever heard of it or felt it.