Top 230+ lbs technicians?

[Bokaj]

This list shoudln't be longer than one of delicious English food courses, but there are a couple...

Douglas (his perfomance of Tyson is almost as school book as it gets), Tony Tubbs, Buster Mathis, Bowe, W. Klitschko, Lewis...

Help me out here!

[RDJ]

James Toney? Perhaps not what you're looking for but he is a technician and he doesn't make 230 :D

[Bokaj]

James Toney? Perhaps not what you're looking for but he is a technician and he doesn't make 230 :D

Well, even at 230+ I suspect he outshines most at that weight in terms of technique:good

[TBooze]

Plenty of podgy South Africans come to mind; plus TNT Tubbs.

[Loewe]

Primo Carnera :deal

[Bokaj]

Primo Carnera :deal

He doen't make mine. I'm distinctly unimpressed by him.

[janitor]

Beyond the obvious:

George Godfrey perhaps deserves a mention.

[Bokaj]

Beyond the obvious:

George Godfrey perhaps deserves a mention.

Could you tell me something about him? Do you have some footage?

[fists of fury]

Does a fat, old Larry Holmes count?

[Russell]

Tony Tubbs. Made Bowe, who was skilled for a superheavy himself, look absolutely foolish.

[mattdonnellon]

Leroy Jones? More quick than a technican maybe.
Tubbs for sure.

[achillesthegreat]

Lennox Lewis.

[Bigcat]

Riddick Bowe, Mike Dokes, Buster Mathis sr.....

[The Kurgan]

Buster Mathis sr.....

Jnr. also qualifies as well, I think, since he had very little going for him beyond his skill. Buster Mathis Jnr. had appaling conditioning, a dentable chin, little power and wasn't even particularly fast, but he had excellent defensive skill and counter-punching ability. People blame Tyson looking ridiculous against Mathis on Tyson's ring rust, but given how much better Tyson would look in his next fight against Bruno, I think a lot of it had to do with Mathis being an excellent- albeit unusual- technician.

[Unforgiven]

Jnr. also qualifies as well, I think, since he had very little going for him beyond his skill. Buster Mathis Jnr. had appaling conditioning, a dentable chin, little power and wasn't even particularly fast, but he had excellent defensive skill and counter-punching ability. People blame Tyson looking ridiculous against Mathis on Tyson's ring rust, but given how much better Tyson would look in his next fight against Bruno, I think a lot of it had to do with Mathis being an excellent- albeit unusual- technician.

Mathis Jr. gave Bowe problems too if I remember rightly.

People say Tyson's timing was off because of the layoff. Maybe. But I figure Tyson also had a lot of difficulty because Buster was a good defensive fighter and was a small and low target. Tyson's style was geared towards chopping down big tall guys. If Buster had had a powerful punch he might have beaten Mike Tyson.

[The Kurgan]

Mathis Jr. gave Bowe problems too if I remember rightly.

People say Tyson's timing was off because of the layoff. Maybe. But I figure Tyson also had a lot of difficulty because Buster was a good defensive fighter and was a small and low target. Tyson's style was geared towards chopping down big tall guys. If Buster had had a powerful punch he might have beaten Mike Tyson.

Even if Tyson's timing was off, he looked AWFUL against Mathis in a way that he didn't look awful against McNeeley, Bruno or Holyfield. Until he landed that that one punch, he was missing like a drunk.

[fists of fury]

Good spot on Mathis jnr. Not a likely candidate but it makes sense when you think about it.
Pity the guy had shitty power for a heavyweight.

[The Kurgan]

Good spot on Mathis jnr. Not a likely candidate but it makes sense when you think about it.
Pity the guy had shitty power for a heavyweight.

If he'd had good power and better conditioning, I suspect we'd be talking about him in any list of "most avoided boxers of all time". He, along in fact with a prime Tyson and a prime Frazier, stands as one of the heavyweights who managed to turn their short stature in a big advantage over their taller opponents. A short boxer with good head movement is just as difficult to handle as a tall boxer with good reflexes.

[Russell]

How about Lawrence Clay Bey?

I've seen him described as a (natural) heavyweight James Toney, and it fit.

Damned slick fighter.

Dropped Wlad as an amateur and supposedly should have been given the nod over him.

[The Wanderer]

I'm a little surprised to see Lewis not getting mentioned more. And I'm very surprised to see Bowe being given so much love. Bowe had good boxing skills, and an excellent jab, but in other areas he was woeful from a technical standpoint. He couldn't even throw a straight right hand properly, he always had to throw it as a looping, overhand right.

[Unforgiven]

John Tate was a good boxer

[Bigcat]

A very awkward technician who never got as far as he probably could have if he would have taken his career a lot more serious was Mike the bounty Hunter sr.. RIP.

[ljj]

Gerry Cooney was so what underrated also, with great power in the left hook.