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jonnytightlips
11-20-2008, 06:26 PM
any1 kno

amy
11-20-2008, 06:55 PM
Yes, for open males. Novice will stay 3-2s and open female will remain 4-2s.

Kolya
11-20-2008, 09:45 PM
Yup what Amy said. Starts in January.

Scorpion
11-20-2008, 09:56 PM
Yup what Amy said. Starts in January.
Is it just in the US or in Canada too?

amy
11-21-2008, 01:49 AM
It's an AIBA rule change so I imagine that it will be affect in Canada as well.

Youngblood
11-21-2008, 03:08 AM
It's an AIBA rule change so I imagine that it will be affect in Canada as well.

Yes. All clubs should have received notification of it already. We did atleast 2 months ago.

The Predator
11-21-2008, 03:47 AM
Yes itīs true and I think itīs the same worldwide. I know it is here in Sweden.
All the best
the Predator

RDJ
11-21-2008, 10:19 AM
Here in Doucheland as well.

Mr. V.I.P.
11-21-2008, 12:34 PM
Its true. We train 4 minute rounds anyways.

GPater11093
11-21-2008, 12:47 PM
yeh i think its coming to britain after january

znaak
11-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Yeah, it's worldwide. :good

And at the Norwegian National Championships next year they are bringing back the 67kg and 71kg divisions. Hopefully AIBA will bring back these divisions too.

Kolya
11-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Yeah, it's worldwide. :good

And at the Norwegian National Championships next year they are bringing back the 67kg and 71kg divisions. Hopefully AIBA will bring back these divisions too.


God, I wish they would bring back 71kg. Light Middleweight is naturally where I fit right now.

znaak
11-21-2008, 06:48 PM
Yeah, it's a too far gap between 69kg and 75kg. I was also stuck in the middle for a long while. They should also consider getting the cruiserweight division that they use in Britain (or is it only in UK?). Anyways... that's 86kg.

znaak
12-02-2008, 10:16 AM
They've already began with 3x3min some places now. Some competitions in Germany and in Latvia. The fights I saw in Latvia were much more tactical than a 4x2min fight, and there was more time for boxing. I also noticed boxers working to the body more than usual. Strenght and conditioning are also more important now. :good

Kolya
12-02-2008, 04:32 PM
They've already began with 3x3min some places now. Some competitions in Germany and in Latvia. The fights I saw in Latvia were much more tactical than a 4x2min fight, and there was more time for boxing. I also noticed boxers working to the body more than usual. Strenght and conditioning are also more important now. :good

Good to have some first hand observations. I'm sure you've noticed as well with the 3x2 or 4x2 it's easy for some guys to just run out, flail away for a minute and a half, get tired the last thirty seconds, and then recover during the rest. I thought thisw ould encourage more boxing and favor people who like to box and set a pace, so I'm looking forward to it.

avk47
12-02-2008, 05:28 PM
Yeah, it's a too far gap between 69kg and 75kg. I was also stuck in the middle for a long while. They should also consider getting the cruiserweight division that they use in Britain (or is it only in UK?). Anyways... that's 86kg.

Yep, 86kg should definitely be brought in internationally as well. There is a big difference between a thick, stocky guy in the mid 80kgs and a guy who weighs in at 91kg, and actually weighs about 94-95.

I boxed at 86kg as a cadet, but had to come up to 91kg when I became a junior. Was pretty tough due to being vertically challenged, and I always felt like I was at the wrong weight. 81kg was also impossible for me, and I'm not the only one like it. In England, cruiserweight always has plenty of entries. Don't see why it shouldn't be there internationally.

znaak
12-04-2008, 04:40 AM
Good to have some first hand observations. I'm sure you've noticed as well with the 3x2 or 4x2 it's easy for some guys to just run out, flail away for a minute and a half, get tired the last thirty seconds, and then recover during the rest. I thought thisw ould encourage more boxing and favor people who like to box and set a pace, so I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, somehow you can always get through two minute rounds, but it's a whole different story with three minutes. :yep More time for boxing!

znaak
12-04-2008, 04:45 AM
Yep, 86kg should definitely be brought in internationally as well. There is a big difference between a thick, stocky guy in the mid 80kgs and a guy who weighs in at 91kg, and actually weighs about 94-95.

I boxed at 86kg as a cadet, but had to come up to 91kg when I became a junior. Was pretty tough due to being vertically challenged, and I always felt like I was at the wrong weight. 81kg was also impossible for me, and I'm not the only one like it. In England, cruiserweight always has plenty of entries. Don't see why it shouldn't be there internationally.
You're absolutely right. Also, women have thirteen weight classes.

avk47
12-04-2008, 08:43 AM
You're absolutely right. Also, women have thirteen weight classes.

The problem is that in multi-sports events like the olympics, they are clamping down on the number of medals that boxing gets. I've heard that when they bring womens boxing in in London 2012, they want to cut the number of competitors in mens boxing, which is a real shame. Thats why it would be tough put 71kg and 86kg through. I honestly dont understand why this is, since sports like swimming or kayacking or rowing get far too many medals, but whatever.

Another argument is that by adding more weight-classes you dilute the talent in each. I disagree with that, since people show their best results when they are boxing at their best weight. In Russia we had an awesome amateur called Mishin, who was perfect at 71kg and won the Europeans and was really fun to watch, but he just wasn't big enough for 75kg. Guys like him missed out on international boxing after the changes.

avk47
12-04-2008, 08:43 AM
And also, somebody has to take care of the corruption and bad judging at both the international and club level. It's killing the sport.

znaak
12-04-2008, 09:34 AM
The problem is that in multi-sports events like the olympics, they are clamping down on the number of medals that boxing gets. I've heard that when they bring womens boxing in in London 2012, they want to cut the number of competitors in mens boxing, which is a real shame. Thats why it would be tough put 71kg and 86kg through. I honestly dont understand why this is, since sports like swimming or kayacking or rowing get far too many medals, but whatever.

Another argument is that by adding more weight-classes you dilute the talent in each. I disagree with that, since people show their best results when they are boxing at their best weight. In Russia we had an awesome amateur called Mishin, who was perfect at 71kg and won the Europeans and was really fun to watch, but he just wasn't big enough for 75kg. Guys like him missed out on international boxing after the changes.
Yeah, I know that's the reason why they got rid of 63,5kg, 67kg and 71kg. Well, that's just nonsense. Other sports get way too many medals. Just see the american swimmer, Michael Phelps. :patsch

I've heard about more boxers with exactly the same problem. It wouldn't be good for the sport to add as many weight classes as in professional boxing, but the addition of 63,5kg, 67kg, 71kg and 86kg would be greatly welcomed.

znaak
12-04-2008, 09:37 AM
And also, somebody has to take care of the corruption and bad judging at both the international and club level. It's killing the sport.
Hasn't it always been that way? Sadly enough I don't see how it will ever change....

twoohands
12-05-2008, 02:54 AM
The problem is that in multi-sports events like the olympics, they are clamping down on the number of medals that boxing gets. I've heard that when they bring womens boxing in in London 2012, they want to cut the number of competitors in mens boxing, which is a real shame. Thats why it would be tough put 71kg and 86kg through. I honestly dont understand why this is, since sports like swimming or kayacking or rowing get far too many medals, but whatever.

Another argument is that by adding more weight-classes you dilute the talent in each. I disagree with that, since people show their best results when they are boxing at their best weight. In Russia we had an awesome amateur called Mishin, who was perfect at 71kg and won the Europeans and was really fun to watch, but he just wasn't big enough for 75kg. Guys like him missed out on international boxing after the changes.
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why didnt michin go down to 69kg for international competition, my natural weight is 71kg but i get down to 69kg for competition, it sounds a bit rediculouse he wouldnt drop 2 kg for international competition apposed to fighting opponents 4kg heavier.

znaak
12-05-2008, 07:28 AM
Maybe he already was a bit weight drained in 71kg. The two extra kilos can be very hard to take off.

avk47
12-05-2008, 08:40 AM
Maybe he already was a bit weight drained in 71kg. The two extra kilos can be very hard to take off.

Exactly. Any outside of his specific situation, 71kg is the weight of an average man. It seems silly that there isn't an amateur weight class for this...