View Full Version : who did vitali klitschko ever beat?????
Relentless
08-08-2007, 10:35 AM
kirk johnson?? danny williams??
every time he stepped up in competition he got beaten and injured.
Relentless
08-08-2007, 10:37 AM
well cotto isn't picked to win fights over all time greats such as muhammad ali, joe louis and rocky marciano.
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 10:38 AM
kirk johnson?? danny williams??
every time he stepped up in competition he got beaten and injured.
You son of a bitch :bbb
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 10:38 AM
He won the "event" against Lewis.
Relentless
08-08-2007, 10:39 AM
ray austin won the event against waldo
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 10:40 AM
ray austin won the event against waldo
Klit never even threw a right hand :rofl
Relentless
08-08-2007, 10:40 AM
When was Vitali picked above them?
err dont act like you dont know fool,
infact i dare you to make a thread right now naming it 'vitlay vs _____ (enter an atg heavyweight)'
you will see how vitlay apperantly destroys them all.
Shpion
08-08-2007, 10:41 AM
kirk johnson?? danny williams??
every time he stepped up in competition he got beaten and injured.
You are obviously bored, otherwise you would have at least changed the name to the thread that had been opened already dozen times.
Anyway, if it will make you feel better, I have one name for you - Vlad's Daddy - Corrie Sanders was taken apart by Vitaly.
Relentless
08-08-2007, 10:42 AM
corrie who?? you mean that golfer?
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 10:43 AM
corrie who?? you mean that golfer?
I golf.....and I'll whoop your ass :yep
Shpion
08-08-2007, 10:43 AM
corrie who?? you mean that golfer?
I'll repeat myself again - Vlad's Daddy was his primary profession.
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 10:45 AM
Has Vitali ever even lost a round? maybe one against Lewis. But other than that I don't think he ever even lost a single round.
Relentless
08-08-2007, 10:46 AM
i'm not a vlad fan, i just think he is better of the 2 and has beaten better opposition, he also doesn't act like an ass everytime he loses....or wins?
2smart4u
08-08-2007, 10:49 AM
kirk johnson?? danny williams??
every time he stepped up in competition he got beaten and injured.:smoke Who did LARRY HOLMS ever beat ? Or MIKE TYSON or BIG GEORGE ect ect ! And they are actually considered ALL TIME GREATS !:hi:
Shpion
08-08-2007, 10:51 AM
i'm not a vlad fan, i just think he is better of the 2 ...
I would love to hear Sander's and Purrity's opinions about that. At least their opinions would be based on personal experience and expertise.
barneyrub
08-08-2007, 11:01 AM
Has Vitali ever even lost a round? maybe one against Lewis. But other than that I don't think he ever even lost a single round.He lost 3 rds against Lewis on many peoples scorecards, the associated press had it level, i had it level, the judges had it 4-2 but thats a one round difference in reality, a swing round, and when you look at the judges when did anyone ever agree with a judges score anyway. Lewis definatley won the last 2 rounds, the 4th rd was pretty even and thats the swinger in my opinion. Yeah vitali had the first 2. The myth of him winning big on the sccorecards defies the reality of what happened and the damage Lewis systematically round by round was doing to the eye. After rd 3 there was one cut, after round 5 there was now 2 cuts above the eye, one below and gashes in the lips and mouth, at the end of rd 6 vitali was clinging to Lewis`s waist and not throwing or defending himself. The ref was looking very closely at vitali`s face from the point of the 6th rd uppercut to the bell and clearly saw matters for concern in him.
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 11:03 AM
:smoke Who did LARRY HOLMS ever beat ? Or MIKE TYSON or BIG GEORGE ect ect ! And they are actually considered ALL TIME GREATS !:hi:
Maybe you should look at "Big George's" resume again :good
SweetScienceFan
08-08-2007, 11:13 AM
I agree that Wladimir is the better of the two. However, why is it hard to understand why a good bit of people would pick Vitali over guys like Ali and Marciano?
Let's look at the difference between Vitali and Marciano to break this down in a one on one basis. Remember, this is a head to head match-up, not a ranking system based on accomplishments. Of course, anyone ranking Vitali ahead of Rocky in ATG status has been concussed.
Vitali was a very skilled big man, with a very good defense, good power, good speed, and a very good chin. Not only has Marciano never faced an opponent anything like that, there simply wasn't anyone like that around at those times.
Let's look at the physical match-up.
Vitali
Stands at 6'8 1/2", most accounts have him just a hair under 6"9"
Has a reach of 80", and remember that is coming from a much taller, and larger fram all together, which makes it even bigger compared to Marciano.
Vitali is in great shape at 250 pounds.
Marciano
5'10"
68" reach
Marciano was in great shape at 185 pounds on average.
So, that leaves Vitali with about an 11 inch height advantage, a 12" reach advantage, and a 65lb weight advantage. Marciano would be 15 lbs under the Cruiserweight limit of today, let alone fighting the super heavyweights. Rocky would most likely have been fighting at Light Heavyweight after dropping 10 pounds of water weight rather easily in today's world.
That is simply too much of an advantage for Vitali, especially considering how skilled he is for a man of that size. A 185 pound man simply couldn't beat him.
Now, that doesn't take away anything from Rocky or his status as an ATG. He was GREAT in his era, and is great in the history of boxing. His accomplishments in his era place him well above Vitali in any ATG list imaginable. However, the simple truth is that he doesn't stack up in a head to head atmosphere. Just too small.
BTW, I am a huge Marciano fan. Probably my favorite heavyweight of the past.
2smart4u
08-08-2007, 11:14 AM
Maybe you should look at "Big George's" resume again :good:huh I have !
Snorkel
08-08-2007, 11:21 AM
Herbie Hide won the first round of their fight too. :deal
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 11:31 AM
I agree that Wladimir is the better of the two. However, why is it hard to understand why a good bit of people would pick Vitali over guys like Ali and Marciano?
Let's look at the difference between Vitali and Marciano to break this down in a one on one basis. Remember, this is a head to head match-up, not a ranking system based on accomplishments. Of course, anyone ranking Vitali ahead of Rocky in ATG status has been concussed.
Vitali was a very skilled big man, with a very good defense, good power, good speed, and a very good chin. Not only has Marciano never faced an opponent anything like that, there simply wasn't anyone like that around at those times.
Let's look at the physical match-up.
Vitali
Stands at 6'8 1/2", most accounts have him just a hair under 6"9"
Has a reach of 80", and remember that is coming from a much taller, and larger fram all together, which makes it even bigger compared to Marciano.
Vitali is in great shape at 250 pounds.
Marciano
5'10"
68" reach
Marciano was in great shape at 185 pounds on average.
So, that leaves Vitali with about an 11 inch height advantage, a 12" reach advantage, and a 65lb weight advantage. Marciano would be 15 lbs under the Cruiserweight limit of today, let alone fighting the super heavyweights. Rocky would most likely have been fighting at Light Heavyweight after dropping 10 pounds of water weight rather easily in today's world.
That is simply too much of an advantage for Vitali, especially considering how skilled he is for a man of that size. A 185 pound man simply couldn't beat him.
Now, that doesn't take away anything from Rocky or his status as an ATG. He was GREAT in his era, and is great in the history of boxing. His accomplishments in his era place him well above Vitali in any ATG list imaginable. However, the simple truth is that he doesn't stack up in a head to head atmosphere. Just too small.
BTW, I am a huge Marciano fan. Probably my favorite heavyweight of the past.
Good logical post :good
BewareofDawg
08-08-2007, 11:34 AM
:huh I have !
Oh, so TKOing Frazier and Norton inside of 2 rounds is worthy of your comment "Who did Foreman beat"?
jackiebrown
08-08-2007, 11:47 AM
vitali dosnt have a really good resume .. but the people he did fight ...it was dominateing the way he did it ...
so i guess its a split .. i mean he didnt have the worst resume .. but it wasnt no where near all time status
Drexl
08-08-2007, 11:50 AM
Has Vitali ever even lost a round?
Depends... are we still talking golf?
Scorpion
08-08-2007, 12:15 PM
you know i agreed with some of the things you said of pacman but your just getting stupider.
El Bombasto
08-08-2007, 12:32 PM
kirk johnson?? danny williams??
every time he stepped up in competition he got beaten and injured.
more importantly, why don't you name the fighters from the last 20 years that you think could beat him and why
Napoleon
08-08-2007, 12:37 PM
well cotto isn't picked to win fights over all time greats such as muhammad ali, joe louis and rocky marciano.
Neither is Klitschko. Most of the threads that say that are created by hatters for laughs and other hatters take them seriously.
Cotto TKO Emile Griffin, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, and Pernell Whitaker.
Wouldn't it be cool if Vitali dominated McCline and then just continued a massacre of today's top-ranked heavyweights? (...until he gets injured again)
Mrboogie23
08-08-2007, 01:47 PM
he hasnt beaten any one of note but I like him better then Wlad. Thats for sure.
RUSKULL
08-08-2007, 01:48 PM
err dont act like you dont know fool,
infact i dare you to make a thread right now naming it 'vitlay vs _____ (enter an atg heavyweight)'
you will see how vitlay apperantly destroys them all.
You are a relentless troll aren't you?!
err dont act like you dont know fool,
infact i dare you to make a thread right now naming it 'vitlay vs _____ (enter an atg heavyweight)'
you will see how vitlay apperantly destroys them all.
Relentless those are people giving bad names on purpose to fans of the Klitschkos.
Everytime I see a thread like that, they're are those idiots but then they're the idiots who says Ali dances circles around both of them and wins all 12 rounds :patsch
Ali was the 2nd greatest of all time but all 12 rounds my god please.
more importantly, why don't you name the fighters from the last 20 years that you think could beat him and whychuck norris. roundkicks him back to russia
2smart4u
08-08-2007, 03:05 PM
The best in their division? They were the actual heavyweight champs? Don't be stupid Dick.:lol: Their opposition was garbage and in no way or form indicated they would beat VITALY ! :good
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