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Slothrop
08-08-2007, 04:39 PM
Holyfield against Lewis?

Jose FM
08-08-2007, 04:48 PM
Vargas against DLH.
Castillo vs. Hatton.

MacManJr.
08-08-2007, 04:49 PM
Morales vs Diaz

nezy37
08-08-2007, 04:53 PM
Morales vs Diaz

You dont think Morales was done? Are you serious he has been done since his second fight with Pac.

Thread Stealer
08-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Evander Holyfield against Mike Tyson

The general consensus when the fight took place was that Holyfield was a shot fighter.

lefthook
08-08-2007, 05:32 PM
Hopkins after his fights with Taylor.

Jinx
08-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Tszyu was HEAVILY favored to destroy Hatton inside the distance, but right after the fight all of a sudden he's shot...i never bought it, never will...

Tyson wasn't shot against Lewis...he didn't train very hard for the fight because mentally he was scared and figured he'd lose anyway...you can't be 'shot' looking the way he looked against Ettienne, and Williams before the knee went out...i'm not buying that one either...

there is a difference between past your best, and shot...Hopkins has been past his best physically since the Trinidad fight and he's still winning most of the time...

Alo2006
08-08-2007, 10:09 PM
Vargas against DLH.
Castillo vs. Hatton.

Castillo was done. He looked terrible in the fight before Hatton.

Words
08-08-2007, 10:29 PM
Castillo was definitely past his best, although I wouldnt say he was totally shot either. The best Castillo might've gone 12 with Hatton, but I'd still favour Hatton over "prime" Castillo. He would never have recovered from that body shot at any age.

Holyfield wasnt shot when he fought Tyson or Lewis, the second fight proved that. Old Man (37? 38?) Holyfield gave a prime Lennox Lewis a close and competetive fight that lasted the distance, unlike say David Tua (shutout) Michael Grant and Francois Botha (rape). Holy didnt look totally shot to me til after he lost to Chris Byrd and well and truly after James Toney beat him.

Kostya Tszyu was definutely not shot, the guy fought well against Ricky Hatton he didnt look shot to me or even mildly past his bes to me. Castillo did, but not Not many boxers would've lasted that long against Hatton on that night.

Larry Holmes was not shot when he fought Tyson, he had some limited success in the first few rounds. Larry Holmes was a reliable campaigner well into his 40's and kept himself in great condition. I rank that as amongst Tysons best victories.

IrnBruMan
08-09-2007, 12:00 AM
Antwun Echols

Slothrop
08-09-2007, 12:18 AM
Tszyu against Hatton was another one I had in mind. He looked really good.

JMotrain
08-09-2007, 12:22 AM
Frazier vs Ali in the third fight

Frazier was said to be done but gave Ali the fight of his life.

theHawtness
08-09-2007, 12:37 AM
You dont think Morales was done? Are you serious he has been done since his second fight with Pac.
i think morales is not shot. he's too young to be shot. but i think, he's showing signs of being shot. i don't know. maybe pac just made him look shot.

i hope for a rematch with diaz. seriously.

gold_gloves
08-09-2007, 03:12 AM
def Kostya

rendog67
08-09-2007, 03:27 AM
you would have to say Foreman vs Moorer

nezy37
08-09-2007, 10:26 AM
i think morales is not shot. he's too young to be shot. but i think, he's showing signs of being shot. i don't know. maybe pac just made him look shot.

i hope for a rematch with diaz. seriously.

It's not necessaraly age that defines a fighter as shot B-Hop is a perfect example of this. Morales has been in alot of wars, been hit in the head too much, thus effecting his reflexes and hand speed. Morales is my favorite fighter and I hope to God he stays retired he doesn't need to get hit anymore

George W Hedge
08-09-2007, 10:26 AM
Morales vs most fighters post barrera 1.

Erik proved them wrong time & again.... until the inevitable.

:good

thewoo
08-09-2007, 10:28 AM
Kostya against Hatton
Tyson against Douglas


Along the same note. Hopkins was not too green against Jones.