Aron Pyror vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 140, who wins?

[Canibus81]

I'd take Pryor by stoppage in the 12th.

[Sweet Pea]

Pryor would win, of that I'm pretty sure, though I'd probably pick him by decision, something like 8 rounds to 4.

[Canibus81]

Pryor would win, of that I'm pretty sure, though I'd probably pick him by decision, something like 8 rounds to 4.

How bout if it was 15 rounds?

[WhataRock]

Still go with Pryor by decision over 15, just probably more decisive.


More chance of a stoppage...In my opinion it just wouldnt be likely though.

[laxpdx]

Aaron roughs Floyd up and leaves him not so pretty. Pryor by lopsided UD.

[BlackWater]

Pretty Boy wouldn't be pretty anymore :lol:

[Holmes' Jab]

Pryor, UD over 12. Late stoppage over 15. :good

[JM22]

How bout if it was 15 rounds?The Hawk will stop him in a 15 round fight.

[ghettowizard]

I cant see Floyd stopping, hurting or deterring that whirlwind

[Stonehands89]

Pryor's is precisely the style to beat Floyd -and a KO is not out of the question. Pryor could be counted on to take Floyd to places where Floyd does not want to go.

[Adaptation]

I will give a close UD to Pryor, Floyd still had strong goods at 140lbs.

[heehoo]

Floyd wouldn't be able to run away from the ever-charging, ever-swinging Pryor. He'd be KTFO in the late rounds.

[GPater11093]

i would have to disagree with everyone

i think floyd would out box him i have watched alot of floyd and i dont think pressure fazes him and he likes to counter busy fighters

i think the way to beat floyd is you need a tall southpaw and he would have to out jab floyd (TO BEAT FLOYD YOU DONT NEED PRESSURE)

i think pryor would be countered and out boxed by FMJ

[DINAMITA]

Mayweather was not the same fighter at 140-47 that he was at 130. Pryor at 140 was a beast, I feel confident he would outpoint PBF, and hurt him pretty badly en route.

[Shake]

Pryor would win, and he would hurt him doing it. I even think Pryor would physically hurt Floyd more at 140 than Duran would at 135. Just an awful, awful style for Floyd to fight.

[Stonehands89]

Pryor would win, and he would hurt him doing it. I even think Pryor would physically hurt Floyd more at 140 than Duran would at 135. Just an awful, awful style for Floyd to fight.
Interesting. Upon thinking about it, I'd have to agree. Duran was a bit more deliberate than Pryor which would spare Floyd from some of the punishment that Pryor would revel in inflicting, nonstop.

[JohnThomas1]

Interesting. Upon thinking about it, I'd have to agree. Duran was a bit more deliberate than Pryor which would spare Floyd from some of the punishment that Pryor would revel in inflicting, nonstop.

Duran was also a lot less reckless and technically sound. I think Floyd's great speed and sharpness would stop him from being overwhelmed here. He's a good puncher too, perhaps underrated. I would not be surprised at all to see him put a couple of balance KD's on Pryor.

[Bigcat]

Floyds more technically sound skills would be the tiny factor in his just taking the shine away from Pryor.. A fight that i would dig deep into my wallet to watch though...

[PowerPuncher]

Pryor never fought anyone like Mayweather, who could beat him to the punch, make him miss and catch him with flush counters. This would slow his output and could confuse Aaron as he'd get beaten to the punch, miss and have new angles presented time and again.

Mayweather fought similar styles to Pryor but never anyone as good. FMJ can slow the pace of a pressure fighter. HE proved against Hatton he can outfight a pressure fighter, using superior punching technique and defense. Mayweather is a better puncher than Pryor too and ofcourse has a far superior defense. Against Castillo he proved he can move, cover and roll and counter off the ropes aswell as ofcourse boxing Castillo's ears off at times whenever it was in the middle of the right. Against all the pressure fighters he faced he landed. Ofcourse neither are as good but the fight pattern would be the same, just Aaron would have more success with his better faster punches and better movement.

If we do a competition analysis neither fighter has beaten someone that the other wouldn't have beaten. Although Mayweather wouldn't have struggled against Arguello who is basically another Corrales with a better chin.

Overall Mayweather has too many advantages over Pryor - defense, speed, footwork, timing, 2 inches in height and a greater reach (funny how no one looks at that). Mayweather strength, power, chin get underrated because of his style and other strengths, all are top notch.

Mayweather 8-4 UD - It should be noted Mayweather rates Pryor very highly

[JohnThomas1]

Pryor never fought anyone like Mayweather, who could beat him to the punch, make him miss and catch him with flush counters. This would slow his output and could confuse Aaron as he'd get beaten to the punch, miss and have new angles presented time and again.


Great paragraph. Tho i won't go out and out to pick Pryor, he's going to be a lot more live than he's getting credit for.

[Minotauro]

Great paragraph. Tho i won't go out and out to pick Pryor, he's going to be a lot more live than he's getting credit for.

Pryor always get more credit then he deserves he never beat a quality fighter in there prime and yet many place him as the greatest 140lbs fighter. He was an excellent fight but is overrated due to his exciting style and the fact many people believe Leonard ducked him even though he didn't really. This would a close fight I think Mayweather looked better at 140 then he did at 135 for me this could go either way.

[JohnThomas1]

Pryor always get more credit then he deserves he never beat a quality fighter in there prime and yet many place him as the greatest 140lbs fighter. He was an excellent fight but is overrated due to his exciting style and the fact many people believe Leonard ducked him even though he didn't really. This would a close fight I think Mayweather looked better at 140 then he did at 135 for me this could go either way.

I am definitely buying what you are selling.

[Stonehands89]

Duran was also a lot less reckless and technically sound. I think Floyd's great speed and sharpness would stop him from being overwhelmed here. He's a good puncher too, perhaps underrated. I would not be surprised at all to see him put a couple of balance KD's on Pryor.
If I remember right, you and I share the opinion that Pryor is a bit overrated. However, styles make fights and his style was hellish. Duran -a technician with fire and underrated physical strength would exploit Pryor's style probably better than anyone I can think of. He'd be throwing smartbombs in all those open windows. I agree that Floyd had a good command of the fundamentals and was a technician underneath all that style and flash, but my concern for him here is that he has neither the firepower which Pryor would be forced to respect, nor the physical strength to keep him off or negotiate in close. Mayweather would be forced to move and stay away and Pryor was too strong and too relentless to allow that.

[JohnThomas1]

If I remember right, you and I share the opinion that Pryor is a bit overrated. However, styles make fights and his style was hellish. Duran -a technician with fire and underrated physical strength would exploit Pryor's style probably better than anyone I can think of. He'd be throwing smartbombs in all those open windows. I agree that Floyd had a good command of the fundamentals and was a technician underneath all that style and flash, but my concern for him here is that he has neither the firepower which Pryor would be forced to respect, nor the physical strength to keep him off or negotiate in close. Mayweather would be forced to move and stay away and Pryor was too strong and too relentless to allow that.

Fair enough, we rate Floyd's power, snap and sharpness differently. Duran would kill the guy. He IMO would be the worst match for Pryor in history at 140.

[Stonehands89]

Fair enough, we rate Floyd's power, snap and sharpness differently. Duran would kill the guy. He IMO would be the worst match for Pryor in history at 140.
Don't mistake me, Floyd was a good puncher, I just don't think he had enough to keep Pryor off of him. We are tending to agree more here.... ?

[JohnThomas1]

Don't mistake me, Floyd was a good puncher, I just don't think he had enough to keep Pryor off of him. We are tending to agree more here.... ?

I think Floyd's sheer sharpness AND underrated power would keep Pryor a bit more honest than many foresee. I might be wrong.

[PowerPuncher]

Don't mistake me, Floyd was a good puncher, I just don't think he had enough to keep Pryor off of him. We are tending to agree more here.... ?

Yet bigger stronger men like Delahoya, Hatton did respect Floyd's firepower and got ko'd/buzzed and in Delahoya's case stopped looking to exchange. Gatti a lesser fighter with a top chin wasn't supposed to have to worry about Floyd's power either

The argument of 'walking through' an elite opponent rarely pans out, and it wouldnt here

[Shake]

Could you expand upon your argument that Arguello was basically a "Corrales with a better chin"?

I'm not completely hating it, since I suspect I understand how you meant it, but perhaps I'm missing something and I'd like to learn. I certainly thought Arguello was a much more cerebral boxer than Corrales.

[WhataRock]

Thats a pretty poor comparison PowerPuncher...maybe you meant something else by it...massive oversimplification.

[sweet_scientist]

Pryor never fought anyone like Mayweather, who could beat him to the punch, make him miss and catch him with flush counters. This would slow his output and could confuse Aaron as he'd get beaten to the punch, miss and have new angles presented time and again.

Mayweather fought similar styles to Pryor but never anyone as good. FMJ can slow the pace of a pressure fighter. HE proved against Hatton he can outfight a pressure fighter, using superior punching technique and defense. Mayweather is a better puncher than Pryor too and ofcourse has a far superior defense. Against Castillo he proved he can move, cover and roll and counter off the ropes aswell as ofcourse boxing Castillo's ears off at times whenever it was in the middle of the right. Against all the pressure fighters he faced he landed. Ofcourse neither are as good but the fight pattern would be the same, just Aaron would have more success with his better faster punches and better movement.

If we do a competition analysis neither fighter has beaten someone that the other wouldn't have beaten. Although Mayweather wouldn't have struggled against Arguello who is basically another Corrales with a better chin.

Overall Mayweather has too many advantages over Pryor - defense, speed, footwork, timing, 2 inches in height and a greater reach (funny how no one looks at that). Mayweather strength, power, chin get underrated because of his style and other strengths, all are top notch.

Mayweather 8-4 UD - It should be noted Mayweather rates Pryor very highly
Just to pick up on the stuff in bold:

No, Floyd is not a better (nor even as good) puncher than Pryor.

Arguello and Corrales are on different levels and it's not just chin that separates them. Arguello has better timing, power and defense.

And whilst it's arguable that Floyd might not have struggled with Arugello, what is not arguable is that Pryor would have knocked Castillo out 10 times out of 10, and would not have arguably lost to him in any fight.

2 inches of height is not going to be a factor in the fight.


To the thread question: Pryor 8 rounds to 4, with Floyd getting a knockdown to his credit.

[JohnThomas1]

Great paragraph. Tho i won't go out and out to pick Pryor, he's going to be a lot more live than he's getting credit for.

I'll just edit this. I mean tho i wouldn't go out and out and pick Floyd not Pryor.

[ChrisPontius]

Yet bigger stronger men like Delahoya, Hatton did respect Floyd's firepower and got ko'd/buzzed and in Delahoya's case stopped looking to exchange. Gatti a lesser fighter with a top chin wasn't supposed to have to worry about Floyd's power either

The argument of 'walking through' an elite opponent rarely pans out, and it wouldnt here
I agree, even though Floyd is not a one-punch knockout artist, his incredible accuracy, sharpness and speed has dazzled almost everyone of his opponents, and very few of them have been able to consistently hit Floyd in return.

I don't see this as the whitewash that many on the first page do; not at all. I think Floyd can win it. His technical ability, speed, versatility, adaptability, coolness under fire and stamina are nothing short of amazing in my book. Outside of one punch knockout power, he is the complete fighter. And i expect his stock to rise significantly over the next 5 years now that he's retired (though he might come back), just like Lennox Lewis' has over the past 5 years.


It would be a great fight, by the way. Class match of styles, both seeing new things, etc.

[PowerPuncher]

Just to pick up on the stuff in bold:

1. No, Floyd is not a better (nor even as good) puncher than Pryor.

2. Arguello and Corrales are on different levels and it's not just chin that separates them. Arguello has better timing, power and defense.

And whilst it's arguable that Floyd might not have struggled with Arugello, what is not arguable is that Pryor would have knocked Castillo out 10 times out of 10, and would not have arguably lost to him in any fight.

3. 2 inches of height is not going to be a factor in the fight.

To the thread question: Pryor 8 rounds to 4, with Floyd getting a knockdown to his credit.

1. Actually Mayweather is the better puncher, Pryor is slightly sloppy in his punching technique (although he throws so much more so you could give this as a reason), Floyd's shots are more compact, better timed and land cleaner. In terms of power I'd rate them equal or in favour of Mayweather. Now as an offensive force Aaron obviously does more damage with his higher workrate, but bringing pressure will also leave more countering opportunities

2. (Also for Shake and Whatarick) Arguello is a better version of Corrales, they have many stylistic similarities though in terms of strengths and weaknesses. I see Mayweather beating him in the same way. I agree Pryor beats Castillo more convincingly than Mayweather but it wouldn't be 1sided and

3. Ofcourse 2inches of height and reach will be a factor in Floyd's favour, it won't be the deciding 1 but when combined with superior hand speed, ATG defense, counters etc etc. Pryor is actually the same height/reach as Hatton and shorter/less rangy than Castillo/Corrales/Judah

DID I MENTION FLOYD IS A PRYOR FAN AND HAS BASICALLY COPYED AND MASTERED MANY OF PRYOR'S TRICKS, MOVES AND TECHNIQUES (albeit as a stylist rather than a pressure fighter)

[Bad_Intentions]

floyd would land some good shots but the more you hit pryor the more madder/furious he gets.

Pryor TKO.

[GPater11093]

i thionk floyd would be a bit too much for pryor

he has the sharper crisper shots and better accuracy and i agree with powerpuncher he has more power but mayweather tends not to use his power until the later rounds but it hink he would be forced to use his power to keep pryor off

i think pryor wouldnt stop coming at him and punch him but i think mayweather would have the skills to pick him off and move out of the way to nullify the swarming attack

but dont get me wrong it would be a great fight

[Cobra33]

Hatton isn't even close to Pryor in ANYTHING.So that comparsion should be thrown out the window.
If Corley gave Mayweather hell Pryor would run right through him.
And lets not forget that Pryor can punch as well and has underrated boxing skills as well.He throws punches from angles that Mayweather has never seen.

[PowerPuncher]

If Corley gave Mayweather hell Pryor would run right through him..

By giving hell you mean failing to win a round and getting knocked down twice?

[guru059]

hawktime all day. too much pressure and perpetual motion for PBF.

[Robbi]

By giving hell you mean failing to win a round and getting knocked down twice?

Agreed. And Corley's biggest moment of the fight was when he stunned Mayweather with a right hand, backed him up, and followed-up with an assualt when Mayweather was backed against the ropes. And Mayweather wasn't as hurt as some people tend to think. He had his senses about him, especially considering Corley's attack against the ropes proved to be unalarming when it ended. And we all know what happened next...............It was Mayweather dishing it out.

[GPater11093]

realy think about it

has mayweather ever been hurt or tired
he dosent so i think pryor would los eheart that this guy can keep going without tiring or hurting

[PowerPuncher]

Agreed. And Corley's biggest moment of the fight was when he stunned Mayweather with a right hand, backed him up, and followed-up with an assualt when Mayweather was backed against the ropes. And Mayweather wasn't as hurt as some people tend to think. He had his senses about him, especially considering Corley's attack against the ropes proved to be unalarming when it ended. And we all know what happened next...............It was Mayweather dishing it out.

From memory didn't Mayweather batter Corley at the end of that round after going to the ropes?

[Robbi]

From memory didn't Mayweather batter Corley at the end of that round after going to the ropes?

Yes, he did. He let Corley shoot his bolt then opened up on him, coming off the ropes, and clubbed him with both hands in the centre of the ring.

[GPater11093]

thats the only fight i havent saw out of mayweathers career

but from watching him i think the fighter that can beat him has to be tall southpaw and has a good jab
THEY DONOT NEED PRESSURE there is a common myth saying to beat mayweather you need pressure you dont

[la-califa]

Could Mayweather really keep Pryor off of him? , I seriously doubt if Mayweather would hurt Pryor, if a powerpuncher like Arguello could not. Especcially if he is fighting off of his backfoot. Mayweather would use plenty of movement, feints. But more than likely, Mayweather would be disheartened as Pryor would keep coming foreward for 15 hard rounds. Whenever Mayweather would stop and fight, He would have to be prepared to be hit as Pryor was always more than willing to take one to give one.

[la-califa]

thats the only fight i havent saw out of mayweathers career

but from watching him i think the fighter that can beat him has to be tall southpaw and has a good jab
THEY DONOT NEED PRESSURE there is a common myth saying to beat mayweather you need pressure you dontCastillo is neither tall nor a southpaw, yet he arguably beat Mayweather in thier first fight.

[brickfists]

pryor would kill him

[GPater11093]

in my opinion for what it is worth i thought mayweather beat castillo in their first fight but i concede it was close but i still thought mayweather had won
he also had hurt his shoulder in that fight (not to make excuses for him)


but the main way to beat mayweather is outjab him or take away his jab

as much as i respect pryor i dont think he would be able to outjab mayweather

[Stonehands89]

Yet bigger stronger men like Delahoya, Hatton did respect Floyd's firepower and got ko'd/buzzed and in Delahoya's case stopped looking to exchange. Gatti a lesser fighter with a top chin wasn't supposed to have to worry about Floyd's power either

The argument of 'walking through' an elite opponent rarely pans out, and it wouldnt here
I didn't say "walk through" -but you are not grasping Pryor's style. Who hit harder -Alexis or Floyd? Any insinuation that Pryor would lay off Floyd like Hatton and Oscar and Gatti (who doesn't belong in this discussion) once he tasted his power --is kooky-talk.

Oscar had moments throughout the fight, his problem was that he would forego them -specifically, when he put Floyd on the ropes his effectiveness went up. He may have gotten frustrated because Floyd was picking some of them off, but that is where he was doing well -you don't allow speed demons to take command in the center -pin him and hammer him. Oscar didn't and I think it was because he was insecure with his stamina. --Point being: Pryor sure as HELL wouldn't be concerned about stamina.

Hatton? His style is only reflective of Pryor at the simplest level and he gives only the faintest, most distant glimpse of what Pryor would bring.

I'll be honest here, I suspect that Floyd would have avoided Pryor.

[RockyJim]

The Hawk wins this...