What improvements do you think Roach will have made to the Khan express?

[brown bomber]

and how do you expect him to box in this fight?:good

[Beeston Brawler]

I think he will have made plenty of improvements to Khan......

But it will all go straight out of the window once the bell rings - he is, still, essentially a novice, and the fighting brain of a goldfish.

The way to beat him is simply jump on him, throw all kinds of shots to head and body - because his chin is awful and he cannot fight on the inside full stop!

Whether Fagan can do that I don't know having not seen him, but by Boxrecing he hardly looks like a pudding, so I will look forward to it.

[dwilson]

I expect him to have shown no improvements but win by stoppage mid fight.

[Hagler/Pryor]

From the videos I saw, I don't think Roach helped Khan tackle his main deficiencies. The things they concentrated on will not make Khan a better fighter. Khan knows he's made a mistake and will try not to repeat it, and that has nothing to do with Roach either. However, training with Roach and Pacquiao in Las Vegas will have inspired Khan and given him his confidence back, whilst taking away all the pressure he was under. In my view, Khan needs a trainer who will concentrate on him and get to know him inside out. Roach is not that man. He doesn't have the time or energy to commit to Khan fully. In the meantime, the change of air will have done Khan a world of good. If I were him, I'd stay in Las Vegas and train and spar there but with a trainer who is prepared to focus on me 100%. Roach could still act like his mentor.

[phonk]

He'll have told Khan not to come out at the first bell and start swinging. He'll have told him to take a couple of rounds and try and get a measure of what his opponent can do.

[Paddy]

Roach is busy with a real fighter FFS Khans just on holiday there, the arrogant punk is talking about how he has a good chin and "sparring" proves it, he will be KOed again nicley soon enough.

does that mean he used to get KO'd in sparing ?

Im not sure Roach is the right man for Khan.

Its been said a million and one times Khan needs to work on his defense as he has always had an excellent offense prehaps one of the mayweathers would have been a better choice for him?

[Paddy]

and how do you expect him to box in this fight?:good

Well Jeff How do you expect Khan to box?

[TehRileh]

Jab and move, Double Jab, 3 and 4 combos. Roach kinda loves his Jab and thinks its his best weapon. And at Lightweight with his height and reach he bloody should work off it.

[robpalmer135]

i think it will do khan allot of good justy being another fighter, not the big star.

[BIG WORM]

hes slimed khan down apparently on his back and upper body, and has put more muslce on his legs..

he used to be proper bulky up top, like a fucking body builder, and got hit too easily

[Darni187]

I would like to see Khan jab is heart out and fight for 12 rounds, i want to see head movement so he can slip shots, be more cooler headed and take his time.

JAB , JAB, RIGHT..

[Primadonna Kool]

Amir Khan will own this Fagan within 2 - 3 rounds.

[brown bomber]

Well Jeff How do you expect Khan to box?That would be telling now wouldn't it.....:tong ... Heard one or two things on the grape vine.... let just say it wasn't entirely positive.

[Decebal]

That would be telling now wouldn't it.....:tong ... Heard one or two things on the grape vine.... let just say it wasn't entirely positive.

You always hype Khan's opponents, though, jeff, and they lose almost every time.;)

[Grendal]

Khan`s best defence will be his jab. More fighters should be taught this lesson. Roach will not try to change khan radically but he will know that if khan is hit clean and hard he will go down. Was it Khan who was saying that he was chinny because in sparring he was not getting hit and therefore wasn`t used to it? If it was then it is daft-talk.
Khan also needs to keep his hands up and use the early rounds to weaken his opponent. I think its too late to teach him better head movement but if he is a good learner then it would be a good long term project.
I think Khan will win some massive bouts , spectacularly, but i also think he will lose others, ignominiously. One thing is for sure, it won`t be a dull ride.
BTW the word from the Wildcard is that he was a great guy and sparred brilliantly with Pacquiao. However he hated Hollywood and missed his friends and family.

[brown bomber]

You always hype Khan's opponents, though, jeff, and they lose almost every time.;)lol The one guy I didn't hype was Prescott :D :lol:

[digregorio1.]

Anyone seen episode 2 of ODLH Pacman 24/7, they've got clips of Khan and Pacman sparring on it and they looked to be going all out at each other, and if Khan could knock him down he won $1000, was pretty good to watch Khan in there with one of the top guys.

There is no doubting his offensive abilities, he has all the tools to go all the way, it's just that questionable chin, but like someone has sad before me - it will be entertaining watching him try and get to the top, just like it will be with David Haye, although at this moment in time i'd back Haye to do it if i had to choose one.

[brown bomber]

Every credit....I hope Khan does well but it doesn't help that he keeps fighting guys that I like... Maybe they should match him with .... Zelenoff then i'll be right behind him.

[achillesthegreat]

It can be seen and its already known that Roach likes his speed and will make him live behind his jab. He's also trying to help him use his feet better and block punches more.

I have no doubt Khan has the talent to do anything he wants in training BUT he needs to be taught to execute in the ring. If he can then we have a potential animal on our hands even with a weak chin. Hide, Hearns, Tito and many other fighters with differing levels of durability went far. Khan can at the very least make himself the best lightweight in the UK and maybe Europe. That deserves respect. Not everyone can be invincible.

[Paddy]

Every credit....I hope Khan does well but it doesn't help that he keeps fighting guys that I like... Maybe they should match him with .... Zelenoff then i'll be right behind him.

Wernt you ment to fight Khan a few years back Jeff?

[brown bomber]

Wernt you ment to fight Khan a few years back Jeff?Yep HE WAS DAMN LUCKY!!! :lol:

[Paddy]

Yep HE WAS DAMN LUCKY!!! :lol:

You could have "exposed" him!

[Paddy]

Here we go with this again:huh

Khan did not go out swinging, he walked out took a jab and his fucking legs wobbled!!

This myth that he went out for a violent fight is pure crap, there was no fight Khan wasn't in it and didn't SWING for shit.

Did you not watch the fight???

allow me

HWX2CVv-CEw

[brown bomber]

You could have "exposed" him!I'm pretty sure i'd have had a very good go but I very much doubt i'd have been the man. I've got a good crack though especially for a guy with 1... stoppage in 16. :lol:

[brown bomber]

allow me

HWX2CVv-CEw shit i blinked.

[Paddy]

I'm pretty sure i'd have had a very good go but I very much doubt i'd have been the man. I've got a good crack though especially for a guy with 1... stoppage in 16. :lol:

you'd need to be careful im sure your mammy told you never to punch glass when you were younger! ;)


Im hoping to see khan get stopped again next week to make my trip to london worth while!

[brown bomber]

you'd need to be careful im sure your mammy told you never to punch glass when you were younger! ;)


Im hoping to see khan get stopped again next week to make my trip to london worth while! By the sounds of it Khans team have got the strategy correct, I sincerely hope Oisin pulls it off but at this stage I give him about a 25% chance. But i've heard nothing from him re his training camp so i'm only getting half the info I need to make an accurate assesment.

[Paddy]

Maybe they should match him with .... Zelenoff then i'll be right behind him.


They wont put him in with another big puncher imagine Khan if Zelenoff landed that 700lb hook...........

[brown bomber]

They wont put him in with another big puncher imagine Khan if Zelenoff landed that 700lb hook...........:lol: TRUE

[dwilson]

Zel has fought heavyweights so I doubt Khan will want to make that fight happen.

[Paddy]

By the sounds of it Khans team have got the strategy correct, I sincerely hope Oisin pulls it off but at this stage I give him about a 25% chance. But i've heard nothing from him re his training camp so i'm only getting half the info I need to make an accurate assesment.

Yeah hes keeping his head down during the week send him a msg on facebook there I think hes back in dublin for the weekend. Im sure the boy will be more than happy to accept any help you can give him regards Khan.

[Healy]

By the sounds of it Khans team have got the strategy correct, I sincerely hope Oisin pulls it off but at this stage I give him about a 25% chance. But i've heard nothing from him re his training camp so i'm only getting half the info I need to make an accurate assesment.
Last time i mailed him he was going p to Belfast to spar with Magee.

Heard anything else?

[brown bomber]

Last time i mailed him he was going p to Belfast to spar with Magee.

Heard anything else? He's been training with John Breen thats for sure... nothing else i'm afraid. He'll give it 110% i'm certain of that.

[ninebar]

He's been in Hollywood maybe Freddie Roach can hook him up with a good surgeon and get a titanium plate put in his jaw.

[Vantage_West]

thing is that i dont think roach could do any different.

khan didnt do anything odd or out of the ordinary in the prescott fight. he has always been an offencive fighter with immense handspeed.

in the prescott fight he was caught with some heavy punches and i doubt his chin is as weak as everybody claims but............he dropped horribly and a jab isnt ment to buckle the knees

what was wrong with khans defence?....he threw everything right just kept getting caught thats a clear sign that he is fighting people who didnt fight back or have the velocity on there punches to give back the damage.he seems good in defence at a standstill. but once he throws punches he is so open. look how he doesnt use his shoulder or footwork to get himself out of reach after he throws the right hand.

all i know is that roach will give him a basic of jab and move. it makes sense for a guy who is 5'9 and has a middleweight reach.

[Akxtinguish]

It will be a repeat of the Kristjansen fight. He'll hang around for a few rounds to prove that he can box, and then eventually go for the KO in the latter rounds.

Of course, if Fagan decides to come in swinging from the first then either he gets clocked or he finds Khans chin and the fight will be over very quickly.