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Bigcat
06-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Is Alex Povetkin ready for a test like this..?
Larry Donald is the first proper long distance fight test for the 2004 Olympic champion. Can he show the maturity to overcome the usually sturdy chinned Donald.. Bostice was overwealmed, Mayfield Outgunned, Castle and Bango dominated, Chapman ground down, Ahunanya outworked.. Can Larry Donald use his wiley skills to take the relative newcommer late into a fight where he may find it uncomfortable..
Larry took Riddick Bowe the full trip at Bowes meanest..
Larry also came a very close second to the then WBA champ Valuev.
Larry dominated former Cruiser and heavyweight legend Evander Holyfield (all be it a past his finest years Holyfield..)
It would be very impressive if Sasha got a stoppage victory..
What do you all think.. IMO i say Povetkin takes a decisive points win..:good
justaboxingfan
06-21-2007, 07:32 PM
I saw povetkins last fight and he looked great. He's not that well built or ripped but the guy is deceptively fast plus he's strong and has good boxing skills. I predict Povetkin wins by mid round KO
The question isn't "is Povetkin ready for someone like Donald so early in his career?", it's "is Donald ready for someone like Povetkin so late in his career?". Donald will learn that he is not a guy he can just box circles around. Povetkin is headlining a fight in Moscow, his determination is at its peak.. anything less than a KO will be a big surprise. He will take him out faster than Wlad did and figure the old man out quick. Povetkin KO6.
Goose
06-21-2007, 08:46 PM
This is a tough test for Povetkin who never went more than 6 rounds. While Donald is the man who should take Povetkin full 10/12 rounds. The question is Povetkin ready to go for 10/12 rounds with a good boxer like Donald?
brooklyn1550
06-21-2007, 09:14 PM
I have a feeling that this will be Povetkin's coming out fight, and if Povetkin were to win big (by TKO or KO), I would believe all the hype and then some. Donald is a skilled fighter who can take a shot, but this isn't the Donald of the 1990s or early 2000s. His long ring absence leads me to believe he will be rusty, sluggish, and probably off with his timing. I like Povetkin by clear UD (116-112, 116-112, 117-111).
Am I the only one who can't even tell all these Russians apart? I'm not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure you're the only poster here that has a Chris Byrd avatar.
o_money
06-21-2007, 10:06 PM
I don't think that the question is "is AP ready for Larry donald" I thinkn the question is "is AP ready to face the guys that come after donald?". With only 13 pro fights under his belt and at most one long distance fight will he be ready to face the Ruiz's, the Rahmans, and the brewsters of the world?
Currently, he's on a pace to be a champ after only 15 or 16 fights. Is he ready for this?
Personally I thing that there is still an upper eschelon of top guys that he is not going to be ready for for at least 6 or seven fights.
Is Alex Povetkin ready for a test like this..?
Larry Donald is the first proper long distance fight test for the 2004 Olympic champion. Can he show the maturity to overcome the usually sturdy chinned Donald.. Bostice was overwealmed, Mayfield Outgunned, Castle and Bango dominated, Chapman ground down, Ahunanya outworked.. Can Larry Donald use his wiley skills to take the relative newcommer late into a fight where he may find it uncomfortable..
Larry took Riddick Bowe the full trip at Bowes meanest..
Larry also came a very close second to the then WBA champ Valuev.
Larry dominated former Cruiser and heavyweight legend Evander Holyfield (all be it a past his finest years Holyfield..)
It would be very impressive if Sasha got a stoppage victory..
What do you all think.. IMO i say Povetkin takes a decisive points win..:good
I bet my money on a point victory for Povetkin.Donald will be a tough test for the rising shooting star from Russia.Donald has a proven track record,and he for sure can be competitive against a lot of top guns.
Povetkin's stamina is still a question mark.Would be great for Povetkin to go the full route of 12 rounds with Donald.Povetkin needs some rounds against a good opponent.Donald is still a good fighter who can give hell to anyone who takes him lightly.
Povetkin's promoter and his matchmaker should match Povetkin with 1-2 teak tough journeymen after his encounter with Donald!
Sedrick Fields,Sherman Williams,Saul Montana,or Denis Bakhtov would be decent foes for Povetkin in order to test his stamina a bit.
aliwasthegreatest
06-22-2007, 11:01 AM
donald has been too inactive to outbox AP for the distance. he'll get KOed i think. and if not he'll just survive i think. though i woul dlove to see him win
ChrisPontius
06-22-2007, 11:21 AM
Interesting fight. This is definitly Povetkins best opponent so far.
Donald is past his best (39?) but he showed he had a lot left when he beat Holyfield handily and, on my scorecard, beat Valuev by a round.
He is also very tough, was only stopped once in his career by Vitali Klitschko after 11 rounds and 4 knockdowns, who needless to say is a very hard accumulative puncher.
I predict a points win for Povetkin. Based on pressure, speed and his technical ability, he should be able to beat Donald. He should pace himself well (is it 12 rounds?) and keep his cool when Donald turns out to be hard to hit or able to absorb a beating.
DamonD
06-22-2007, 01:24 PM
It's definitely a step up, but Donald is pushing 40 now and he's been out of the ring for the better part of 21 months.
Plus Donald's eternal problem - he's too gun shy.
If Povetkin stops him that'll be a feather in his cap, but 'just' a points win would be the biggest of his pro career to date and I definitely favour him to do it. I think he'll pressure Donald and score some eye-catching combos in close, and it'll get him the nod.
Bigcat
06-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Donald is a respectful opponent.. But The one first pencilled in "Monte Barret" Is the guy that would have probably posed a great threat to the young russian.. Barrett always pulls the underdog upset..
He dropped Mesi..
and handed Guinn his first loss in front of Guinns home fans..
Imagine Barrett doing the same in front of Povetkins home fans in Moskow..
God bless...
Asterion
06-22-2007, 03:12 PM
Sasha will beat Donald by UD. The other option is an early KO.
I wanted Sasha to face Barrett, who I rank in my Top30..but I guess Donald is a fine/underrated opponent.
curmudgeon
06-22-2007, 03:12 PM
Larry Donald is the first proper long distance fight test for the 2004 Olympic champion.
Is winning a pro-kickboxing Euro title in a 10 round fight 7 years ago not considered a proper long distance test?
DamonD
06-22-2007, 03:52 PM
In terms of pro boxing, then.
SweetScienceFan
06-22-2007, 06:42 PM
I was suprised to hear this fight was coming off. Hell, I wouldn't be surpised to see Donald outbox any of the current Champs outside of Klitschko.
The only question mark about Povetkin right now might be his stamina. He looks like the perfect fighter to me in all other aspects. Wladimir Klitschko and his brother are two of the greatest heavyweights of all time and Povetkin will eventually eclipse them. He is THAT good.
You are right,flabby!
Povetkin's weak spot may be his stamina.But I guess that Donald will test Povetkin's stamina.Donald's chin is okay,and so is his stamina.I dont think that Povetkin will be able to stop the experienced vet within the distance.
Hopefully,this upcomming bout against Donald will tell us a bit about Povetkin's stamina.I for my part would like to see him share the ring with 1-2 teak tough journeymen like Sherman Williams,or Sedrick Fields before taking on -again-fighters of the upper echelon of his weight division.
A fight against his durable stable mate Timo Hoffman would be desireable IMO.This fight could be staged without any trouble,and Hoffman is a decent heavy in his prime with a proven track record.
El Bombasto
06-23-2007, 10:41 AM
Povetkin should win, but a stoppage is unlikely.
Bigcat
06-23-2007, 12:05 PM
What the hell does kickboxing have to do with the Larry Donald fight....
Boxing bro..
not kick boxing
not thai boxing
not ufc..
not wwf wrestling
not horse racing
or base jumping
Boxing............
God bless....
Bigcat
06-23-2007, 12:11 PM
Is that him in the Avatar, that skinny guy crouching like he is about to take a shit.........
Bigcat
06-23-2007, 01:16 PM
he looks like he smokes cigarettes too
He would be smoked by Povetkin in a mere half a round..
He would be completely out of his depth..
Chilli
06-23-2007, 03:18 PM
I don't know if Larry could make it competitive. Much depends on his frame of mind. In his recent interview he stated he's never seen Povetkin fight. Larry only knows that he's Olympian. He took a fight on a short notice. Likely of despair. King didn't feed him any fight for a while.
chliJs
06-23-2007, 03:58 PM
povetkin by early ko..
DamonD
06-23-2007, 05:04 PM
I don't know if Larry could make it competitive. Much depends on his frame of mind. In his recent interview he stated he's never seen Povetkin fight. Larry only knows that he's Olympian. He took a fight on a short notice. Likely of despair. King didn't feed him any fight for a while.
Hmm. That really makes it sound like a "turn up for a payday and hope I get lucky" attitude from Donald...
Butch Coolidge
06-23-2007, 05:11 PM
Povetkin has the pressure of fighting in front of a hometown crowd. Sometimes that can make a boxer punch himself out trying to make himself look impressive. There are a few intangibles at work here that a crafty veteran like Donald can take advantage of it the opportunity presents itself.
My guess for the fight is it will be surprisingly close with Povetkin's homecooking paying off. Povetkin via a point or two.
Povetkin has the pressure of fighting in front of a hometown crowd. Sometimes that can make a boxer punch himself out trying to make himself look impressive. There are a few intangibles at work here that a crafty veteran like Donald can take advantage of it the opportunity presents itself.
My guess for the fight is it will be surprisingly close with Povetkin's homecooking paying off. Povetkin via a point or two.
Povetkin isn't Wlad. In front of his home crowd, he would never allow himself to burn out, even if he was inches away from death. No homecooking will be needed either, he doesn't fight at home to steal decisions. Donald will be KO'ed.
El Bombasto
06-23-2007, 08:25 PM
povetkin by early ko..
You either don't know much about Donald, or you're way overestimating Povetkin
Butch Coolidge
06-23-2007, 08:30 PM
Povetkin isn't Wlad. In front of his home crowd, he would never allow himself to burn out, even if he was inches away from death. No homecooking will be needed either, he doesn't fight at home to steal decisions. Donald will be KO'ed.
If Povetkin KOes Donald I will handcraft a golden icon of Povetkin and put it on the dashboard of my truck and worship it while I'm waiting at traffic lights and railroad crossings.
If Povetkin KOes Donald I will handcraft a golden icon of Povetkin and put it on the dashboard of my truck and worship it while I'm waiting at traffic lights and railroad crossings.
Haha! You are exaggerating,butch! Could be quite annoying to have Povetkin's face in front of your eyes for hours and hours!
Butch Coolidge
06-23-2007, 08:46 PM
Haha! You are exaggerating,butch! Could be quite annoying to have Povetkin's face in front of your eyes for hours and hours!
Maybe Povetkin will make me a prophet without even betting on him...sorry I couldn't resist that one.:rofl
Stovepipe
06-23-2007, 09:13 PM
If Donald shows up in the same shape he was in vs Valuev, he has a chance, if he hasn't too much rust. I read he sparred with McCline for Jameel's Valuev fight. So maybe he has remained active boxing wise outside the ring.
I put a few bucks on Donald, I expect the odds to narrow as we inch close to fight night. Donald is better than the guys Povetkin has defeated.
Donald beat Valuev by four points on my card. I don't know that Chagaev did better vs Valuev than Donald did. Is Povetkin ready for Chagaev?
Also, I have a feeling Donald is going to be training hard for this one and wanting redemption after getting jobbed. Chagaev got the title and the respect for doing something that Donald already did, that nobody acknowledges (beat Valuev).
Donald at +500 seems like its worth a shot at least.
boxingcar
06-23-2007, 10:39 PM
You either don't know much about Donald, or you're way overestimating Povetkin
or maybe you're underestimating Povetkin.
valdosta
06-24-2007, 02:34 AM
Donald is 40 years old and hasn't fought in more than a year and a half. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that Povetkin could stop him. Povetkin isn't a great puncher but he is a good puncher and will land enough to do some damage.
If Povetkin KOes Donald I will handcraft a golden icon of Povetkin and put it on the dashboard of my truck and worship it while I'm waiting at traffic lights and railroad crossings.
Would you at least put an avatar I choose for 2 weeks after Povetkins KO's him?
chliJs
06-24-2007, 06:53 AM
You either don't know much about Donald, or you're way overestimating Povetkin
we'll have the answer soon. donald is able to absorb a lot of punishment, but he won't be willing. it's going to be his last fight, he hasn't fought for over a year, i think maybe two, while his last opponent was the massively overrated valuev, who can't knock anyone out for shit, at least if you're judging him right and not by some youtube-highlight-clips.
then there is povetkin.. a fighter who improved immensly in the last fights, who completely crushed bostice (no one expected that to happen the way it did, it's basically the same situation), and who can prove his worthiness of being a contender for truly big shots in his next two or three fights.
Butch Coolidge
06-24-2007, 09:29 AM
Would you at least put an avatar I choose for 2 weeks after Povetkins KO's him?
I'll put up a Povetkin avatar if he KOes Donald. How's that?
I'll put up a Povetkin avatar if he KOes Donald. How's that?
Great, I already have something ready for you when it happens.
Novirasputin, first of all, the fight is in Russia, not Germany. Second, Chapman would have been stopped anyways. Is it hard to believe that Povetkin, a great finisher, would have hurt him even worse than he already did at the end of that fight? Find a better example of where a Povetkin fight would have gone the distance if it was in America. You don't think Povetkin would get a stoppage win against someone like Bostice if it was in the US? Donald will be KO'ed.
Danny Ocean
06-24-2007, 04:05 PM
donald fought well v valuev and i think he will again vs povetkin
his rust will stop him maintaining a fast pace he needs
povetkin ko when hes behind on the cards
does anybody really believe Donald stands a chance. He forty freakin years old and if he stops for a second he's gonna get clocked. His time has passed and he wasn't all that great even during his prime. This fight has knockout written all over it and if Povetkin loses then he really is not as good as we all think he is. By the way the Holyfield fight was quite a while ago....stop bringing it up.
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