View Full Version : The Kessler will beat Calzaghe thread
BigReg
08-08-2007, 11:23 PM
There's been a lot of people mouthing off about how Calzghe is gonna pummel Kessler on Nov. 3(Calzaghe is a hell of a fighter so I can see why so many people are picking him). However, I have alot of faith in Kessler. I think he's etrememly underrated fighter(Dan Rafael has Margarito ranked ahead of him in his p4p rankings). Come Nov. 3 he will be underrated no more as he rains on Calzaghe's parade in front of his fans. So who's with me? Who else is picking the Viking Warrior strip away Calzaghe's "0"?
Korn_06
08-08-2007, 11:33 PM
I am in, Kessler TKO 6-9
BigReg
08-08-2007, 11:34 PM
I am in, Kessler TKO 6-9
Smart man.
DoinDamage
08-08-2007, 11:54 PM
Count me in. Kessler will overwhelm Calzaghe.
Amsterdam
08-09-2007, 12:56 AM
Count me in. Kessler will overwhelm Calzaghe.
:lol:
Since when does a paced fighter overwhelm a swarming fighter who's entire game is overwhelming his opponent and making him fight his fight.
Calzaghe TKO 9, brutal one sided beatdown.
Jose FM
08-09-2007, 01:24 AM
Kessler will beat Joe Calcracky!
Korn_06
08-09-2007, 01:46 AM
:lol:
Since when does a paced fighter overwhelm a swarming fighter who's entire game is overwhelming his opponent and making him fight his fight.
Calzaghe TKO 9, brutal one sided beatdown.
Since Nov. 3 rd.:smoke
boxfan99
08-09-2007, 02:13 AM
:lol:
Since when does a paced fighter overwhelm a swarming fighter who's entire game is overwhelming his opponent and making him fight his fight.
Calzaghe TKO 9, brutal one sided beatdown.
How can you be so sure that Calzaghe will win by stoppage when he wasn't able to stop neither Lacy nor Bika? Do you expect Kessler do recieve a bigger beating than Lacy?:roll:
Kessler has never been stopped in his entire career (including amateur), and he has only been knocked down once, which happened at age 18 or 19 in an amateur fight that he eventually won by stoppage.
The only way I can see Calzaghe win by stoppage is if Terry O'Connor is referee.
But if you are so sure that it will be a stoppage what about an avatar bet then?:D
ChuckYoungblood
08-09-2007, 03:31 AM
Kessler is indeed underrated and 3. November he will win a close UD and in round 3 Calzaghe will be knocked down and get up again. I expect great things from both men!
Fat Tony
08-09-2007, 04:06 AM
I am in, Kessler TKO 6-9
Me, too. Kessler TKO 11.
Teddy Edelman
08-09-2007, 05:34 AM
Kessler will cut calzaghe so bad:vonnecunt :partytime
psychopath
08-09-2007, 06:08 AM
Fuck that! I don't care how . . . I want Kesller to win just to shut the mouths of a lot of his nut huggers here. :rofl
DAMN this board has been flooded by fucki'n Calzaghe, Calzaghe, Calzaghe . . . Calzaghe threads for over three months now. . . with the same bullcraps. :-(
:bart
lillarry
08-09-2007, 07:45 AM
Count me in. Getting kind of annoyed with the Calzaghe people. :good
yesihavearm
08-09-2007, 07:51 AM
i think calzaghe will be in the fight for the first 4-6 rounds then kessler will overwelm him and win by late stoppage or ud 118-112
Based on what ? Kessler's generic win over a very-timid Anthony Mundine ? Who happens to be his best opponent by about a MILLION miles. Or have you based that on his COMPLETE lack of adaptability and a style that is TAILOR MADE for Calzaghe.
Kessler's very rigid, stands very upright and leads in with an admittedly very strong jab and then a very good straight right hand which indeed has power. But whats that going to do when the person in front of you is so much faster and will swarm and shoot off with 3 punches before you can let even 1 off ?
The Lacy fight showed me that fighting on the inside, Calzaghe is virtually unbeatable. In no way is Kessler going to even attempt that. So whats he going to do then ? Stay on the outside behind his jab for the whole fight ? Ok...he could do that, but Kessler got tagged several times hard by Mundine in the early rounds, whats he going to do against someone who's much faster, more experienced and has pintpoint accuracy punches comming in at speed - not only for the first 3 rounds like Mundine but can do it all fight.
If you want a small demonstration of what Kessler's style vs Calzaghe's will be then go watch Calzaghe vs Mario Veit fights. Kessler and Veit are almost identical style wise, granted Kessler does his stuff a lot better but at the end of the same day, better he may be, he's still doing the same stuff.
I understand you guys might be fans of kessler and all that, thats fine. But use logic, and not your heart. I wanted Oscar to beat PBF so much, but back of my mind was telling me otherwise. Do the same thing, and keep your money from the bookies.
AllyT
08-09-2007, 08:02 AM
I look forward to big fights, I cannot wait for Hatton/Mayweather, but I have almost no interest in this fight as I do not see anything other than an easy win for Calzaghe.
Sorry but I do not think your guy has a chance as he is far too slow for Calzaghe.
BigReg
08-09-2007, 08:45 AM
I'm glad to see some some support for Kessler. I also noticed some Calzaghe lovers couldn't resist comming in here and trying to rain on the pro Kessler parade. It's all good. You Calzaghe fans won't have much to say to when your guy is looking down in disgust after the fight, wondering what just happened to him. And don't even bother with any excuses after Calzaghe loses, that shit is not gonna fly.
ThePlugInBabies
08-09-2007, 08:52 AM
I'm glad to see some some support for Kessler. I also noticed some Calzaghe lovers couldn't resist comming in here and trying to rain on the pro Kessler parade. It's all good. You Calzaghe fans won't have much to say to when your guy is looking down in disgust after the fight, wondering what just happened to him. And don't even bother with any excuses after Calzaghe loses, that shit is not gonna fly.
:roll:
the same thing happened in the calzaghe express thread when a couple of kessler nuthuggers showed up talking their usual bollocks.
BigReg
08-09-2007, 08:55 AM
:roll:
the same thing happened in the calzaghe express thread when a couple of kessler nuthuggers showed up talking their usual bollocks.
We're not talking about them. It's up to Calzaghe fans in that thread to put them in their place. Being that this is a pro Kessler thread, anti Kessler sentiments must be addressed
yesihavearm
08-09-2007, 09:01 AM
We're not talking about them. It's up to Calzaghe fans in that thread to put them in their place. Being that this is a pro Kessler thread, anti Kessler sentiments must be addressed
You gonna remove your tongue from Kessler's ass anytime soon and answer to my above post ? Not Anti-Kessler. Just Pro-Calzaghe.
LeedsLad
08-09-2007, 09:06 AM
I actually like Kessler as a fighter, if he was fighting anyone else at 168 id be supporting him 100% and be confident of him winning. However, i think Calzaghe is just better than him. If Kessler does win, il give him the credit he deserves!
China_hand_Joe
08-09-2007, 09:06 AM
Count me in. Getting kind of annoyed with the Calzaghe people. :goodWe cannot even dream of matching Deram and the 50 thousand aliases mate.
BigReg
08-09-2007, 09:07 AM
You gonna remove your tongue from Kessler's ass anytime soon and answer to my above post ? Not Anti-Kessler. Just Pro-Calzaghe.
This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. This is a pro Kessler thread. This thread is for people who believe Kessler will win. I am not about to read some long ass pro Calzaghe rant in a thread meant to show support for Kessler.
Decebal
08-09-2007, 09:07 AM
I actually like Kessler as a fighter, if he was fighting anyone else at 168 id be supporting him 100% and be confident of him winning. However, i think Calzaghe is just better than him. If Kessler does win, il give him the credit he deserves!
:good
ChuckYoungblood
08-09-2007, 09:20 AM
Arm-man: The problem is that you can't compare Lacy and Veit to Kessler like you can't compare Mundine or Beyer to Calzaghe - both are far superior boxers and a step up for them.
IMO Kesslers perfect timing and balance will make Calzaghe pay when he opens up, and Mikkel will land again and again with his pin-point-precise right. Go Kess!:bbb
Kessler knows this fight cannot go to the scorecards. He will do what is necessary to put Joe down for good. kessler cannot match the # of thrown punches by Joe. Likewise, there's no way in hell can Joe do to Kessler what he did to Lacy. Lacy was a 1 trick poney who got overwhelmed by the whole thing. I think we will see Kessler moving around alot more and Joe will be downed by a righthand lead before the 9th. Great fight! cant wait.
Harry
08-09-2007, 09:55 AM
calzaghe´s speed is overrated only hes slapper combinations make him look fast its bollocks, mundine is faster than calzaghe no doubt. this fight will be a lot easier for kessler than all of you expect. kessler by knockout and humiliation :bbb
digiram
08-09-2007, 09:59 AM
Yeah!!! Let's go Kessler.
yesihavearm
08-09-2007, 10:10 AM
calzaghe´s speed is overrated only hes slapper combinations make him look fast its bollocks, mundine is faster than calzaghe no doubt. this fight will be a lot easier for kessler than all of you expect. kessler by knockout and humiliation :bbb
Oh..dear.
Seriously I rarely laugh at loud at the stupidity of internet forum posts, but that just tops the tree.
Im in to, and actually i think it will be an easy fight for Kessler
Rollo
08-09-2007, 10:58 AM
How can you be so sure that Calzaghe will win by stoppage when he wasn't able to stop neither Lacy nor Bika? Do you expect Kessler do recieve a bigger beating than Lacy?:roll:
Kessler has never been stopped in his entire career (including amateur), and he has only been knocked down once, which happened at age 18 or 19 in an amateur fight that he eventually won by stoppage.
The only way I can see Calzaghe win by stoppage is if Terry O'Connor is referee.
But if you are so sure that it will be a stoppage what about an avatar bet then?:D
As far as I know Kessler has only been knocked down once, when he was 14. He got up and stopped his opponent, though.
Half-Dane
08-09-2007, 11:02 AM
i think calzaghe will be in the fight for the first 4-6 rounds then kessler will overwelm him and win by late stoppage or ud 118-112I agree :good
PH|LLA
08-09-2007, 12:06 PM
I'm in and so is my money
henrik
08-09-2007, 12:06 PM
kessler will win this fight,and i think he will knock out joe.c before round 10.
Alo2006
08-09-2007, 07:51 PM
I'm with Kessler :good
ChuckYoungblood
10-11-2007, 07:08 AM
In less than a month boxing will have a new superstar!
:bbb :happy
Rollo
10-11-2007, 07:17 AM
Oh..dear.
Seriously I rarely laugh at loud at the stupidity of internet forum posts, but that just tops the tree.
Is that you Blocky?
In less than a month boxing will have a new superstar!
:bbb :happy
And all the Calzaghe fans hanging around, with nothing left, they'll go crazy( I mean even more than now ) riots on the streets and so on.
Poor bastards!:D :D :D
ChuckYoungblood
10-11-2007, 07:31 AM
And all the Calzaghe fans hanging around, with nothing left, they'll go crazy( I mean even more than now ) riots on the streets and so on.
Poor bastards!:D :D :D
They will sigh, bow their heads and go back to their normal lives: "It sure was fun while it lasted, talking about supernatural speed and shit"
:good
pecks
10-11-2007, 07:45 AM
By round 5, Calzaghe will be wishing that he had done a hell of a lot more with his career while someone like Kessler wasn't around.
Kessler will win with such ease that afterwards Mundine fans will feel wishing that Mundine had had a crack at Calzaghe before Kessler did. :yep
Korn_06
10-11-2007, 07:52 AM
We cannot even dream of matching Deram and the 50 thousand aliases mate.
Yeah Deram is not here anymore, I think he got tired of the likes of Blocky. Anyway Blocky should stay away since he lost the bet, and that also goes for aliases.
Deram was way too proud to use an alias, where as Blicky is just trash with no backbone.
Korn_06
10-11-2007, 07:53 AM
I agree :good
I see you are preparing the right kind of woodoo, Your avatar is pretty close to the looks of Calzaghe. :hey
anderslundgaard
10-11-2007, 08:21 AM
Kessler will beat Calzaghe convincingly. Maybe even with a TKO victory.
Smazz20
10-11-2007, 08:30 AM
Personally I think Calzaghe will win a comfy UD. In saying that though, should Kessler win (very possible) I doubt he'll get the credit he would deserve for it.
He'd be lucky to break Rings p4p ratings.
But fuck me, this is easily the best fight this year and if it lives up to my expectations it'll go down as one of the best fights ever!!!!
ThePlugInBabies
10-11-2007, 08:34 AM
one for kessler fans, who does kessler face next if he wins? and who does he face if he loses?
MrStayman
10-11-2007, 08:42 AM
I'll hop on the express.
:happy:happy:happy
ChuckYoungblood
10-11-2007, 08:43 AM
one for kessler fans, who does kessler face next if he wins? and who does he face if he loses?
If he loses a very wide decision, a tune up fight and then Bute.
It its a close fight win or lose, Joe Calzaghe...
If he wins and Joe retires, an american - Taylor or Hopkins perhaps
boxfan99
10-11-2007, 08:54 AM
one for kessler fans, who does kessler face next if he wins? and who does he face if he loses?
If he wins, I hope he'll fight against the winner of Berrio-Bute next, a fight that will determine the first undisputed SMW ever and only the third person to hold the four biggest ABC's at the same time.
If he loses, then I hope he'll fight Mundine again (If Mundines eye is OK of course) or perhaps still the winner of Berrio-Bute.
HolgerD
10-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Kessler knows very well that winning on points in hostile territory of this magnitude is a lottery with poor odds. He will do whatever it takes to knock JC out resoundingly. I can imagine JC being knocked down early on, come up again with MK all over. The second knock down will leave JC looking for his mouth piece while he only finds a couple of his teeth.
Clearly Cool
10-11-2007, 09:33 AM
I think Kessler will win. But im not 100%.
Kessler by stoppage.
henrik
10-11-2007, 10:08 AM
i think kessler will get hit a lot in the first 3-4 rounds,but then he will start powerpunching for a couple a rounds,and finally he wil catch joe even with a lot of punching-tko or a clean kock out!thats the way i see it.
JETSKI
10-11-2007, 10:14 AM
There's been a lot of people mouthing off about how Calzghe is gonna pummel Kessler on Nov. 3(Calzaghe is a hell of a fighter so I can see why so many people are picking him). However, I have alot of faith in Kessler. I think he's etrememly underrated fighter(Dan Rafael has Margarito ranked ahead of him in his p4p rankings). Come Nov. 3 he will be underrated no more as he rains on Calzaghe's parade in front of his fans. So who's with me? Who else is picking the Viking Warrior strip away Calzaghe's "0"?
As much as I hate the Eagles (sorry dude) I am with you 100% on this one. Slappy Calzaghe might annoy Kessler with his nonsense, but eventually Kessler will land his right hand & Joe will be on the canvas.
Kinda the same way I felt about what Pavlik was gonna do to Taylor.
Can't wait for this one!:good
ThePlugInBabies
10-11-2007, 10:25 AM
a bigger hitter in lacy caught calzaghe with some good rights and he barely blinked, but kessler will take him out with one shot?
a bigger hitter in lacy caught calzaghe with some good rights and he barely blinked, but kessler will take him out with one shot?
Yes!:yep
Look at Beyer, he's selling ice cream in Bremen these days, after he meet Kessler!
Maybe Calzaghe should pick up square dance after nov. 4, after all he's so fast, and he's footwork is so good.:D
Sorry I can't stop :oops:
Look at Beyer, he's selling ice cream in Bremen these days, after he meet Kessler!
Maybe Calzaghe should pick up square dance after nov. 4, after all he's so fast, and he's footwork is so good.:D
Sorry I can't stop :hey
satyriion
10-11-2007, 11:14 AM
The really good thing is the way Kessler will beat him.
I think it will look more like a Siaca beating than a Beyer beating.
I think Joe will realise, rd. 8-10, that he can't take further beating and recognise the inevitable. If he leaves his chair, he will face a devastating KO in front of his fans or his corner will have to give up for him.
Kessler is very confident of the outcome, regardless of some, soon to disappear bogus analyst predictions. Calzaghe is thinking a lot about his demise these days. What to do after a loss.
Kessler i only thinking about beating Joe, not losing to him. This is indeed the perfect scoop for Mogens Palle. Congrats.
By the way. Forget about Veit et al. Kessler is another animal. You should better consider the poor performance the last couple of fights joe had. He really sucked. Even using BS excuses like he fought down to their level. If his so godly good why did he not dispose of them fast and like the young joe. Because his hands are shit and busted up. Hence Kessler does not have to worry about getting ko'ed.
Why could Joe not finish Jeff Lacy. According to Lacy himself (go google if you need evidence) Calzaghe does not hit very hard. He slaps. The reason for all the blood is because of Joe highly irregular slapping makes the tape tear small wounds in the skin.
By the Way, talking of Lacy. His personal winner is Mikkel Kessler by far. As is Andrade, Mundine, Beyer, Bika, and probably most active fighters you ask.
Kessler will not get recognition he deserves because he will be too dominant and people and joe himself will explain his humiliation with old age and bad hands.
The really good thing is the way Kessler will beat him.
I think it will look more like a Siaca beating than a Beyer beating.
I think Joe will realise, rd. 8-10, that he can't take further beating and recognise the inevitable. If he leaves his chair, he will face a devastating KO in front of his fans or his corner will have to give up for him.
Kessler is very confident of the outcome, regardless of some, soon to disappear bogus analyst predictions. Calzaghe is thinking a lot about his demise these days. What to do after a loss.
Kessler i only thinking about beating Joe, not losing to him. This is indeed the perfect scoop for Mogens Palle. Congrats.
By the way. Forget about Veit et al. Kessler is another animal. You should better consider the poor performance the last couple of fights joe had. He really sucked. Even using BS excuses like he fought down to their level. If his so godly good why did he not dispose of them fast and like the young joe. Because his hands are shit and busted up. Hence Kessler does not have to worry about getting ko'ed.
Why could Joe not finish Jeff Lacy. According to Lacy himself (go google if you need evidence) Calzaghe does not hit very hard. He slaps. The reason for all the blood is because of Joe highly irregular slapping makes the tape tear small wounds in the skin.
By the Way, talking of Lacy. His personal winner is Mikkel Kessler by far. As is Andrade, Mundine, Beyer, Bika, and probably most active fighters you ask.
Kessler will not get recognition he deserves because he will be too dominant and people and joe himself will explain his humiliation with old age and bad hands.
My words:good
Alo2006
10-11-2007, 11:19 AM
I am in, Kessler TKO 6-9
:lol: @ your avatar, but I agree with Kessler winning. Possible late TKO :yep
boxfan99
10-11-2007, 11:36 AM
The really good thing is the way Kessler will beat him.
I think it will look more like a Siaca beating than a Beyer beating.
I think Joe will realise, rd. 8-10, that he can't take further beating and recognise the inevitable. If he leaves his chair, he will face a devastating KO in front of his fans or his corner will have to give up for him.
Kessler is very confident of the outcome, regardless of some, soon to disappear bogus analyst predictions. Calzaghe is thinking a lot about his demise these days. What to do after a loss.
Kessler i only thinking about beating Joe, not losing to him. This is indeed the perfect scoop for Mogens Palle. Congrats.
By the way. Forget about Veit et al. Kessler is another animal. You should better consider the poor performance the last couple of fights joe had. He really sucked. Even using BS excuses like he fought down to their level. If his so godly good why did he not dispose of them fast and like the young joe. Because his hands are shit and busted up. Hence Kessler does not have to worry about getting ko'ed.
Why could Joe not finish Jeff Lacy. According to Lacy himself (go google if you need evidence) Calzaghe does not hit very hard. He slaps. The reason for all the blood is because of Joe highly irregular slapping makes the tape tear small wounds in the skin.
By the Way, talking of Lacy. His personal winner is Mikkel Kessler by far. As is Andrade, Mundine, Beyer, Bika, and probably most active fighters you ask.
Kessler will not get recognition he deserves because he will be too dominant and people and joe himself will explain his humiliation with old age and bad hands.
You can add, the soon to become IBF-champ, Bute to that list of fighters who favour Kessler. Manny Steward also said on HBO that he thought Kessler would win.:p And probably most importantly I say so.:yep The only way for Joe to win is a hometown robbery or a BS-stoppage if fatboy O'Connor is ref.:p
SouthLondonsFinest
10-11-2007, 11:47 AM
"according to lacy" haha
ThePlugInBabies
10-11-2007, 11:48 AM
You can add, the soon to become IBF-champ, Bute to that list of fighters who favour Kessler. Manny Steward also said on HBO that he thought Kessler would win.:p And probably most importantly I say so.:yep The only way for Joe to win is a hometown robbery or a BS-stoppage if fatboy O'Connor is ref.:p
didn't most experts say lacy would KO calzaghe?
'oh but mikkel is no lacy', we'll see.
oh, and manfredo aside, what calzaghe fights were stopped too early?
boxfan99
10-11-2007, 11:55 AM
didn't most experts say lacy would KO calzaghe?
Most American "experts" did.
'oh but mikkel is no lacy', we'll see.
That we will. Do you even believe yourself that Kessler is another Lacy?
oh, and manfredo aside, what calzaghe fights were stopped too early?
None of his recent fights, they all went the distance.:lol:
If you think Calzaghe will shut out or KO Kessler, I will be more than happy to make a bet with you, though I feel I have to mention that I already have a bet with Amsterdam regarding this fight.
ThePlugInBabies
10-11-2007, 11:58 AM
i just believe you are reading far too much into so called experts opinions, the actual sportsman themselves often make the worst pundits.
seriously though, nice going avoiding my last question, it's another one of the myths floating around here lately that calzaghe stoppages tend to be bullshit.
Timbermayn
10-11-2007, 12:02 PM
Count me in Kessler TKO 9 :-)
boxfan99
10-11-2007, 12:16 PM
i just believe you are reading far too much into so called experts opinions, the actual sportsman themselves often make the worst pundits.
seriously though, nice going avoiding my last question, it's another one of the myths floating around here lately that calzaghe stoppages tend to be bullshit.
I don't read anything, or more correctly very little, into what the experts are saying (read whose opinion I said was the most important in my post:p ), I just mentioned Bute and Steward as an addition to Satyriion's post. You are right about how sportsmen are often the worst pundits by the way.:good
Regarding your last question, I really didn't try to avoid it, I just stated facts. But let me state that I have never claimed that Calzaghes stoppages in general tend to be BS.
Now answer me this, do you think Calzaghe will beat Kessler as easy as Lacy?
satyriion
10-11-2007, 12:42 PM
Regarding the Lacy fight, which was joe's selfproclaimed "careerdefining" match, his legacy and more BS, Joe had Lacy in trouble from round 1 and could hit after his own choosing. Lacy was slow and wide open he was hit time and again but he did not looking very hurt except from one time in the last rounds. What amazes me is that a superhuman champ, which allegedly is the right term for joe, can not punch a guy out that has no speed or power and walks around like a sleepwalker. Lacy was clearly not dangerous after rd.3 Joe even says that lacy can't "punch fuck all" But no powerpunching just slap after slap.
I would like to see a guy being hit 1000 times by a power puncher in 36 minutes and still be able walk and talk like Lacy.
I think Lacy is telling the truth of how he felt Joe slaps (Manfredo agrees). I don't think he wins anything by belittleling Calzaghe, as he lost so devastating to him.
Could it be that Joe does not hit to hurt, but to impress ?
satyriion
10-12-2007, 04:11 AM
Slapper joe will lose con nov3
Oh and the majority of boxing writers are backing Joe. Read this month's Ring to see why - interesting reading.
As they favored Lacy:good
satyriion
10-12-2007, 06:15 AM
Lacy was seriously rocked a few times and, had it not been for the tape unravelling at the end of the fight, he'd have been stopped.
Guy's tough though and took his beating like a man.
When before has Lacy even looked like getting stopped? never, is the answer.
I notice nobody whinges about Malignaggi taking a beating from Cotto and Cotto not putting him away...
True, but Lacy's really had a padded record and went on to almost lose to Tsykpo lately.
ThePlugInBabies
10-12-2007, 06:19 AM
True, but Lacy's really had a padded record and went on to almost lose to Tsykpo lately.
he was in control of the fight until seriously damaging his shoulder around the 4th round.
satyriion
10-12-2007, 06:20 AM
Oh and the majority of boxing writers are backing Joe. Read this month's Ring to see why - interesting reading.
They have to make up for the Lacy disaster. They got their panaties exposed for what they are.
They think they are avoiding a doublefuck by Calzaghe by maikng him the safe and universally agreed bet.
But he will doublefuck them by going down completely 3nov.
Good for the odds though.
satyriion
10-12-2007, 06:23 AM
he was in control of the fight until seriously damaging his shoulder around the 4th round.
I watched some old Lacy fights some time ago, and he seriously did not impress me as a true champ or anything close to one.
How many succesfull defenses did he master of his title ?
Observer
10-12-2007, 06:23 AM
My 50 cents:
Kessler is a good fighter. But Calzaghe is an extraordinary fighter. Kessler is solid, but what's special about him? Who's going to be more surprised in the ring, Kessler or Calzaghe? How do you prepare for combinations of 7-8 punches coming from a super middleweight?
satyriion
10-12-2007, 06:26 AM
My 50 cents:
Kessler is a good fighter. But Calzaghe is an extraordinary fighter. Kessler is solid, but what's special about him? Who's going to be more surprised in the ring, Kessler or Calzaghe? How do you prepare for combinations of 7-8 punches coming from a super middleweight?
Like Mikkel punched Andrade with 7-8 powerpunches or are you referring to the 7-8 bitchslabs joe can muster nowadays.:nono
ThePlugInBabies
10-12-2007, 06:26 AM
I watched some old Lacy fights some time ago, and he seriously did not impress me as a true champ or anything close to one.
How many succesfull defenses did he master of his title ?
he defended the IBF belt 4 times before he fought calzaghe.
ThePlugInBabies
10-12-2007, 06:27 AM
Like Mikkel punched Andrade with 7-8 powerpunches or are you referring to the 7-8 bitchslabs joe can muster nowadays.:nono
yes, because when joe trades he will be static and not move in the slightest like andrade :roll:
Stickandmove
10-12-2007, 06:27 AM
Kessler is the best looking boxer in the world..............until November 3rd :yep
Seriously though, this is a pick 'em fight that is likely to go the distance. It will depend on:
1. How much Joe has left; he looked shaky against Bika and his speed, reflexes and ability to put the punches together seemed to have declined from his peak.
2. Whether Joe's hands hold out; there is still the chance he could pull out of the fight. He's been talking about retiring if he loses which leads me to think he's having doubts.
3. How Kessler deals with the biggest fight of his life; if he freezes then Joe will likely pepper him with punches and we'll see another Lacy type dominant performance from Joe.
My prediction: Joe has JUST enough left to edge a close fight although he may have to get up off the canvas to win.
Calzaghe SD Kessler in a classic!
satyriion
10-12-2007, 07:08 AM
Kessler prime weapon is his cool. He is extremely focused and controlled. The trip to Sidney illustrates this perfectly. He was unfit and had the whole audience against him. But he won clearly.
Mikkel has no doubts that he is the best. Its not just words and hype, he is convinced about it.
satyriion
10-12-2007, 07:11 AM
yes, because when joe trades he will be static and not move in the slightest like andrade :roll: After he has been hurt, he wont move and dance much more. He will be an old man after rd 5. flat on his feet. Hanging parades and slowed reflexes. Curtesy of his hurt body and Mikkels ramrod bodyjabs and straight right to the chin and body. Then the 7-8 combo comes once. And party is over.
ThePlugInBabies
10-12-2007, 07:18 AM
After he has been hurt, he wont move and dance much more. He will be an old man after rd 5. flat on his feet. Hanging parades and slowed reflexes. Curtesy of his hurt body and Mikkels ramrod bodyjabs and straight right to the chin and body. Then the 7-8 combo comes once. And party is over.
when calzaghe is hurt or stunned he doesn't cover up and look to back away, he fires shots back and looks to go to war, watch his fight with mitchell. mitchell puts him down with a nasty temple shot, calzaghe gets up and mitchell brings the heat but calzaghe doesn't back off, he replies with shots of his own and lays out his opponent with a beast of a left hand.
as mundine showed, kessler doesn't like swarming pressure, but mundine was timid as fuck and never sustained an attack, if joe goes to war and swarms kessler then life will be tough for the dane.
if mikkel is to win he needs to fight from the outside and it is an absolute must that he gets his jab going, if he struggles with calzaghe circling away from his jab he will get torn a new one on the inside. calzaghe can be hit with the overhand right, as robin reid exposed, but reid didn't need a jab to get his right off, kessler does, i do like kessler as a fighter, he's one of my favourites at the moment, but i really struggle to see him winning this one.
satyriion
10-12-2007, 07:39 AM
Well your struggle ends nov3. You will wake up on the 4th and understand why I was so confident in Mikkels skills. This will probably be first time he opens up full throttle and aggression. He does not want a SD.
ThePlugInBabies
10-12-2007, 07:40 AM
well this going nowhere now, i pledge to zip my mouth (or fingers in this case) about the winner of this fight.
satyriion
10-12-2007, 07:57 AM
well this going nowhere now, i pledge to zip my mouth (or fingers in this case) about the winner of this fight.
That not going to hold, i think *LOL* Anyway I am utter and truly convinced Kessler will win....surprise,surprise.. But I will not cry if he loses. Because from the ashes of his defeat will rise a true legend in Calzaghe. And I will respect and hail taht fact, should it happen.
By the way. I was also convinced Joe would beat Lacy back then. But thats the only really impressive fight I have seen with Joe. But then again I did not give much for Lacy's chances back then and I dont give shit for Joe's this time around.
yesihavearm
10-12-2007, 08:04 AM
That not going to hold, i think *LOL* Anyway I am utter and truly convinced Kessler will win....surprise,surprise.. But I will not cry if he loses. Because from the ashes of his defeat will rise a true legend in Calzaghe. And I will respect and hail taht fact, should it happen.
By the way. I was also convinced Joe would beat Lacy back then. But thats the only really impressive fight I have seen with Joe. But then again I did not give much for Lacy's chances back then and I dont give shit for Joe's this time around.
satyriion since your so utterly convinced that Kessler's going to win lifetime ban bet ?
You talk a good talk, actually you dont. But lets see if your willing to back yourself up.
If Calzaghe wins your gone, no posting again. If Kessler wins I go, no posting again.
Deal ?
jammerdk
10-12-2007, 08:49 AM
satyriion since your so utterly convinced that Kessler's going to win lifetime ban bet ?
You talk a good talk, actually you dont. But lets see if your willing to back yourself up.
If Calzaghe wins your gone, no posting again. If Kessler wins I go, no posting again.
Deal ?
Damn.... isn't that hard making such a bet, now that you've got plenty of accountname ain't it Blocky :patsch
satyriion
10-12-2007, 09:13 AM
satyriion since your so utterly convinced that Kessler's going to win lifetime ban bet ?
You talk a good talk, actually you dont. But lets see if your willing to back yourself up.
If Calzaghe wins your gone, no posting again. If Kessler wins I go, no posting again.
Deal ?
First of all. Try to reread your own entry. It does not really make sense.
Neither does the suggestion of a bet with you entertain me much. You have too many aliases and too little hounor and balls to accept and comply with your own premises and stakes in a bet.
What I am saying, your lack of honour and sportsmanship reflects on your character in a way that leaves you stripped and naked for what is the mental and human fabric you are made of. Garbage.
Someone who has lost all selfrespect along with that of his peers.
Pathetic. Its irrrellevant what alias you try to hide under. The bet was made person to person not a handle or a nick.
If I had any faith that you would honour your words then yes. But your trackrecord suggests otherwhise.
Anyway, I am hard pressed to fathom what you would find entertaining on ESB after nov3, If you were a normal human you would shy away, but you are obviously not, so you will probpably be around with another name and avatar anyway.
Somtimes I wonder about what tragedy lies behind a guy with so many aliases and posts in a shitty forum on the net as you do. Most of them spiteful and full of malice and lies.
Go have a good smoke ...peace.:rasta
digiram
10-12-2007, 09:39 AM
In...Kessler for the win.
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 09:49 AM
First of all. Try to reread your own entry. It does not really make sense.
Neither does the suggestion of a bet with you entertain me much. You have too many aliases and too little hounor and balls to accept and comply with your own premises and stakes in a bet.
What I am saying, your lack of honour and sportsmanship reflects on your character in a way that leaves you stripped and naked for what is the mental and human fabric you are made of. Garbage.
Someone who has lost all selfrespect along with that of his peers.
Pathetic. Its irrrellevant what alias you try to hide under. The bet was made person to person not a handle or a nick.
If I had any faith that you would honour your words then yes. But your trackrecord suggests otherwhise.
Anyway, I am hard pressed to fathom what you would find entertaining on ESB after nov3, If you were a normal human you would shy away, but you are obviously not, so you will probpably be around with another name and avatar anyway.
Somtimes I wonder about what tragedy lies behind a guy with so many aliases and posts in a shitty forum on the net as you do. Most of them spiteful and full of malice and lies.
Go have a good smoke ...peace.:rasta
:happy :happy :happy :good
Blocky, you are pure garbage!!! No one respects you anymore you filthy liar.
satyriion
10-12-2007, 09:53 AM
He is just too much really.
Give me a break! yesihaveaarm is not blocky, he offerd me a place to sleep after the figth, he's ok, he just don't see the ligth in Kessler.
But don't accuse him to be that motherfucker Blocky.
China_hand_Joe
10-12-2007, 10:05 AM
First of all. Try to reread your own entry. It does not really make sense.
Neither does the suggestion of a bet with you entertain me much. You have too many aliases and too little hounor and balls to accept and comply with your own premises and stakes in a bet.
What I am saying, your lack of honour and sportsmanship reflects on your character in a way that leaves you stripped and naked for what is the mental and human fabric you are made of. Garbage.
Someone who has lost all selfrespect along with that of his peers.
Pathetic. Its irrrellevant what alias you try to hide under. The bet was made person to person not a handle or a nick.
If I had any faith that you would honour your words then yes. But your trackrecord suggests otherwhise.
Anyway, I am hard pressed to fathom what you would find entertaining on ESB after nov3, If you were a normal human you would shy away, but you are obviously not, so you will probpably be around with another name and avatar anyway.
Somtimes I wonder about what tragedy lies behind a guy with so many aliases and posts in a shitty forum on the net as you do. Most of them spiteful and full of malice and lies.
Go have a good smoke ...peace.:rasta
Does it really matter seeing as Calzaghe has zero chance of winning? Accept the bet.
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 10:23 AM
Give me a break! yesihaveaarm is not blocky, he offerd me a place to sleep after the figth, he's ok, he just don't see the ligth in Kessler.
But don't accuse him to be that motherfucker Blocky.
If I were you, I would make sure to have a backup plan regarding where to sleep.;)
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Does it really matter seeing as Calzaghe has zero chance of winning? Accept the bet.
What about you make an offer yourself? Somebody might accept it.
China_hand_Joe
10-12-2007, 10:33 AM
I have Kessler mate.
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 10:34 AM
I have Kessler mate.
Sure you do.
China_hand_Joe
10-12-2007, 10:38 AM
Sure you do.
Is it so hard to believe I am picking a young, prime, unified champion going into the biggest fight of his life against a 35 year old?
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 10:41 AM
Is it so hard to believe I am picking a young, prime, unified champion going into the biggest fight of his life against a 35 year old?
Not any harder than to believe that you are part of the Illuminati.;)
China_hand_Joe
10-12-2007, 10:47 AM
Illuminati.;)This is kind of inaccurate, the illuminati you are thinking of aren't up to much. Most individuals in my group hold more influence than that outdated joke of an 'organisation'. You can call us the illuminati if you want though, you know no better.
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 11:06 AM
This is kind of inaccurate, the illuminati you are thinking of aren't up to much. Most individuals in my group hold more influence than that outdated joke of an 'organisation'. You can call us the illuminati if you want though, you know no better.
Then neither do you it seems, considering it was you who claimed to be a member of the Illuminati, but I guess you just expressed yourself inaccurately, right?
Amsterdam
10-12-2007, 11:22 AM
Then neither do you it seems, considering it was you who claimed to be a member of the Illuminati, but I guess you just expressed yourself inaccurately, right?
The Calzaghe mafia are the enlightened ones, technically.:lol:
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 11:37 AM
The Calzaghe mafia are the enlightened ones, technically.:lol:
So they tend to think, but that just shows how unenlightened they really are.:D
Amsterdam
10-12-2007, 11:43 AM
So they tend to think, but that just shows how unenlightened they really are.:D
Blockhead was never in this group mate...
Even 'DanePugilist' is in the Mafia.:yep
If I were you, I would make sure to have a backup plan regarding where to sleep.;)
We have :good
China_hand_Joe
10-12-2007, 04:08 PM
Then neither do you it seems, considering it was you who claimed to be a member of the Illuminati, but I guess you just expressed yourself inaccurately, right?
No, I have always claimed to be in the 'New Illuminati' and that the Illuminati are only allowed to exist as they lack influence and act as a decoy.
CHJ Calzaghe was, Kessler is, get used to it!
China_hand_Joe
10-12-2007, 04:20 PM
I said something along those lines earlier in the thread mate.
CHJ Calzaghe was, Kessler is, get used to it!
Is it so hard to believe I am picking a young, prime, unified champion going into the biggest fight of his life against a 35 year old?
boxfan99
10-12-2007, 06:35 PM
No, I have always claimed to be in the 'New Illuminati' and that the Illuminati are only allowed to exist as they lack influence and act as a decoy.
No, you haven't, but unfortunately I can't prove it, because it looks like all posts made before the "forum-crash" have been lost, so I guess you can claim whatever you want considering the "evidence" got lost.:p
Amsterdam
10-12-2007, 06:38 PM
No, you haven't, but unfortunately I can't prove it, because it looks like all posts made before the "forum-crash" have been lost, so I guess you can claim whatever you want considering the "evidence" got lost.:p
I have to ask. Who is the poker girl?:think
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