Bet The House on Holyfield!

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Take those odds and take your winnings to the bank (or the casino). Evander Holyfield, new WBO Champion!

[rendog67]

what odds?

[WhataRock]

Unless theres a fix I cant see it happening. As much as Id like to.

[Tanner]

The odds making Holy the underdog...

[DamonD]

Long enough odds on anyone are always worth a shot anyway.

So what are the actual odds for this fight, then?

[Tanner]

None I've seen yet, but I would assume Iggy will be a -200 fav...

[psychopath]

None I've seen yet, but I would assume Iggy will be a -200 fav...

I don't know I'm not too impressed with Holy lately but if he turns out to be a big underdog . . . that risk is worth taking. :yep

[dave]

Yea if Holyfield is a big underdog I would definetly bet on him...he will win, but I think if he goes after Vlad he will be beaten badly.

[0-1]

It's too early for there to be competitive odds, but 2:1 is available on Holyfield, which is alright.

[lamont zero]

i really believe that holyfield will win the wbo-bellt by UD.

[DamonD]

Man, it would almost be better if Sultan got kayod...losing a points decision to Holyfield would arguably be worse. It's one thing to get punched out, another to get outboxed by a 44-year-old over 12 rounds.

[lamont zero]

yeah, if holyfield lands a bomb a few bombs will follow and its bye bye iggy.

[fatcity]

Fools rush in where wise men never tread.Nuff said.:deal

[achillesthegreat]

If the odds are good I'll put a tenner on him.

[Zakman]

Ibragimov is rather mediocre, so even today's Holyfield COULD win this. In fact, I think he will. If Ray Austin can put Sultan on the deck and make it close, it's hardly inconceivable that Evander could win.

[geppy]

When you are broke and in the gutter, we will start a collection fund for you in the lounge.

Sultan is going to destroy Holyfield. Too much footspeed, handspeed, and power for this verison of Holyfield. Sultan is not going to stand there and get hit like chumps like Vinny Maddalone, Jeremy Bates, Lose Saverese. Sultan knows how to box in and out , and pick his shots with speed , (speed) which something Saverese/ Maddalone have absolutly nothing of.

[geppy]

Ibragimov is rather mediocre, so even today's Holyfield COULD win this. In fact, I think he will. If Ray Austin can put Sultan on the deck and make it close, it's hardly inconceivable that Evander could win.

Ray Austin is a even level fighter with Larry Donald. Infact they had a draw. Compare Sultan struggling and having an even fight with Austin, as to Holyfield losing every second of the fight to Donald and being totally owned and embarressed. You think that was bad , Sultan is going to dominate him and brutally knock him out.

If you say it was a shoulder injury, well shit Holyfield wasnt landing with either hand, nothing. It wasnt like posters, annoucers or anyone , was saying damn that right hand has power, but Holy has no left hook or vice versa.

[41fever]

I see Holy getting his but whipped bad, remember Larry Donald. However, I learned not to mark off Evander. The Old Real Deal by UD.

[El Bombasto]

Long enough odds on anyone are always worth a shot anyway.

So what are the actual odds for this fight, then?

In that case go for a draw.

[bumdujour]

Take those odds and take your winnings to the bank (or the casino). Evander Holyfield, new WBO Champion!

why?? did the boxing4real stooges pick iggy???

cause your prediction defies logic....on any level.

[Butch Coolidge]

Chris Byrd and Michael Moorer were southpaws who gave Holy some trouble. Also, I wouldn't put too much stock into Ibragimov's performance vs Austin. That may have been the Russian's worst professional performance and he was still out of shape but he still had Austin hurt very early, he just wasn't in good enough shape to really finish him. For his own sake, Ibragimov better not waddle into the ring way overweight like Kirk Johnson did vs Vitali Klitschko. Ibragimov ought to perform much better against Holy.

[Butch Coolidge]

why?? did the boxing4real stooges pick iggy???

cause your prediction defies logic....on any level.

Because they got tired of The Islander upstaging them on predictions.

;)

[Loufatski]

Yea if Holyfield is a big underdog I would definetly bet on him...he will win, but I think if he goes after Vlad he will be beaten badly.

Odds or no odds, I like Holyman but I don't see him pulling off a "W" in this fight. And should he win, I don't think he's strong enough to penetrate Wlad.

[Zakman]

Ray Austin is a even level fighter with Larry Donald. Infact they had a draw.

C'mon. Ray Austin drew with an OLD Donald. Comparing Ray Austin with Donald is way off base. Donald was an Olympic medalist, a touted amateur fighter, who, if he had come around in this era, instead of the 90s, would like have won a title belt. Austin is a regional level fighter who started boxing late and was lucky to get hooked up with, and pushed into contention by, Don King. Two different levels of fighter.

[geppy]

C'mon. Ray Austin drew with an OLD Donald. Comparing Ray Austin with Donald is way off base. Donald was an Olympic medalist, a touted amateur fighter, who, if he had come around in this era, instead of the 90s, would like have won a title belt. Austin is a regional level fighter who started boxing late and was lucky to get hooked up with, and pushed into contention by, Don King. Two different levels of fighter.

LMAO , Donald was 4 1/2 month older in his fight against Austin than he was against Holyfield. Austin was Donalds very next fight! You realize that dont you? Donald easily dominated every second and humiliated Holyfield, then in Donalds next fight he was held to a drew with Austin.

[Heavyrighthand]

if he turns out to be a big underdog . . . that risk is worth taking. :yep

Agree. If Holyfield is a big underdog, this fight could mean KA-CHING!.

[Butch Coolidge]

It's difficult to figure out how their respective styles enter into advantages and disadvantage. My inclination is that Ibragimov's awkward southpaw style and quickness will may stack up well against Holy but Ibragimov's seemingly reckless agression plays into Holy's counterpunching ability.

[Heavyrighthand]

Ibragimov's seemingly reckless agression plays into Holy's counterpunching ability.

And a beautiful left hook like the one that Holyfield dropped Savarese with would certianly drop Ibragimov, as well.

[Butch Coolidge]

And a beautiful left hook like the one that Holyfield dropped Savarese with would certianly drop Ibragimov, as well.

Gotta remember SI is a southpaw. He'd have to come wide with el gancho.

[geppy]

And a beautiful left hook like the one that Holyfield dropped Savarese with would certianly drop Ibragimov, as well.

Yeah, because Savarese is know for having an outstanding chin. Right? Kirk Johnsson fucking crushed Lou with a left hook that layed him out badly for a KO .

You cant possibly throw a better left hook and Lou survived it. Lou is also know for his tremendous speed as well, that is at least as fast a land turtle . Holyfield is not even going to touch Iggy.

[Butch Coolidge]

I think timing is more important than actual speed, for a counterpuncher type of boxer.

[geppy]

Come on , it is Savarese! Michael Grant owned him in his prime. Savarese was never that good and he is now in his 40's.

That is like saying look at that left hook Fighter A landed on Cliff Ettiene , that would knock down Chagaev . The differance is Ettinene sucks (and gets KO'd all the time) , and Chagaev can fight.

[Butch Coolidge]

Come on , it is Savarese! Michael Grant owned him in his prime. Savarese was never that good and he is now in his 40's.

That is like saying look at that left hook Fighter A landed on Cliff Ettiene , that would knock down Chagaev . The differance is Ettinene sucks (and gets KO'd all the time) , and Chagaev can fight.

Ibragimov is opposite of Savarese.

[KobeIsGod]

i think we'll be able to tell at the weigh-in. If Iggy comes in around 230, we could have an upset. Around 220, he should win a pretty comortable decision. I don't see a stoppage either way since neither have great power.

Iggy's handspeed and foot movement should win him a competitive but close UD 8-4ish. For the most part, Holyfield is just one and done nowadays.

[Butch Coolidge]

I think Sully will stop Holy, mid rounds is my guess.

[fightking12]

I bet on Holyfield:happy

[Tanner]

By 'house' you don't mean that refridgerator cardboardbox you live in , do you, Tanner?

Just an expression, Donato. :hi:

[DamonD]

I do think Sutlan being a southpaw makes this a lot more awkward for Holy.
His bread-and-butter is the left hook, not his right. He needs to make Sultan pay up close.

[DobyZhee]

In boxing, always bet on the underdog...the ridiculously underdog.

I'm gonna bet on holyfield based on his hard work ethic during 'Dancing with the Stars'.:hey

[sugar_ray]

if ray austin can manage a draw, holyfield can win by ud

[Zakman]

if ray austin can manage a draw, holyfield can win by ud

Exactly. This is a VERY winable fight for Holyfield. VERY winable.:yep

[geppy]

Exactly. This is a VERY winable fight for Holyfield. VERY winable.:yep

Holyfield got beat by John Ruiz. You seem to think Ruiz is the worst fighter on the face of the planet, lol.

[Zakman]

Holyfield got beat by John Ruiz. You seem to think Ruiz is the worst fighter on the face of the planet, lol.
Among fighters who have become rated or won titles, Ruiz undoubtedly has the least ability of any fighter since I've been following boxing.

And because he has minimal skills, he cheats to "win." As he did against Holyfield when he faked a low blow in their second fight to keep from being counted out. Their third fight was a joke. Evander clearly won the fight, but King got Ruiz the decision.

[geppy]

Among fighters who have become rated or won titles, Ruiz undoubtedly has the least ability of any fighter since I've been following boxing.

And because he has minimal skills, he cheats to "win." As he did against Holyfield when he faked a low blow in their second fight to keep from being counted out. Their third fight was a joke. Evander clearly won the fight, but King got Ruiz the decision.

Really, what about Holyfield constantly using his head as battering ram ,and worst of all being caught buying HGH and steroids. I find it ironic you complain about Ruiz so bad , but Holyfield himself is the poster boy for a dirty fighter and steroid cheater.

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[geppy]

Irony? Nearly every fighter that has fought Holyfield complains about headbutts from Holyfield. They say he is a dirty fighter, who does not fight within the rules, even Ruiz.

"Opponents of Evander Holyfield have repeatedly complained that the former heavyweight champion is a dirty fighter frequently given to head-butting. So outraged was Mike Tyson by Holyfield's alleged cranial transgressions during their second bout, in '97, that he wrote a formal letter of protest to the Nevada state athletic commission -- oh, wait ... no ... he bit off part of Holyfield's ear. Well, who can blame him? Being faced with such blatant unsportsmanlike conduct can really peeve a guy.

Holyfield has also been accused of working an elbow or two, as well as the occasional shoulder, into his combinations. Of course, that's just the sort of rough and ready action that falls into the gray area between blatant cheating and a strict adherence to the Marquess of Queensberry Rules. "The way that I describe Holyfield is [as] an opportunist," was how heavyweight John Ruiz --who faced the Real Deal three times -- put it to RingsideReport.com earlier this month. "If he sees things aren't going his way, he will throw an elbow or hit you with a head butt. "

[D-FENS]

Ibragimov struggled with Ray fucking Austin. Holyfield does have a chance.

[geppy]

Ibragimov struggled with Ray fucking Austin. Holyfield does have a chance.

Holyfield was almost out against Bert " journeyman" Cooper. Cooper had him fucked up bad. So it is subjective, every fighter has off nights.

[maciek4]

Unless the odds are 40:1 I aint betting on this grandpa.

[Bubba]

Really, what about Holyfield constantly using his head as battering ram ,and worst of all being caught buying HGH and steroids. I find it ironic you complain about Ruiz so bad , but Holyfield himself is the poster boy for a dirty fighter and steroid cheater.


Holyfield has never been caught using steroids!!

Unlike others ... RJJ, Toney (twice), Botha, etc.

[geppy]

Holyfield has never been caught using steroids!!

Unlike others ... RJJ, Toney (twice), Botha, etc.

The FBI watched Holyfield pick up his drugs. Those that ran the pharmacy are facing felony charges.


"Do you know which drugs were involved?
Llosa/Wertheim: In June 2004, an individual that authorities believe to be Holyfield picked up three vials of testosterone, two vials of Glukor and injection supplies. Less than a week later, according to the document, he picked up five vials of Saizen, a brand of human growth hormone (HGH), and related supplies. In Sept. 2004, he returned for a follow-up visit for hypogonadism.
SI.com: Does Holyfield have an explanation?
Llosa/Wertheim: We contacted him today. He denied knowledge and offered to get back to us, which he never did. "