~~~Is Kessler's biggest nightmare that the fight is stopped early?~~~

[Decebal]

Tell you what...that would really piss me off. The last thing I want to see is Kessler staring in disbelief, telling the ref he's fine and WTF is going on!?

Needless to say, if the fight were to be stopped early, it would do Joe no favours whatsoever - after all, JC is fighting to redeem himself in the eyes of the public and fans, and is fighting for his legacy - a fight stopped early/controversially might be worse for him in the long run than a toe-to-toe classic that he loses on a SD or narrow UD.

If I were Kessler, I would make sure the whole world knows that if it comes to it, I would happily take a lot more punishment than usually allowed, this fight being so important; I would be telling everyone that if the fight is stopped on a TKO, it has to be because I was on the verge of being long-term damaged and almost falling down like a rag doll anyway.

So what do you think? Which aspect of the fight is giving Kessler the worst nighmares?

[Tom_Tocca]

Just make sure that no British ref will be the official in the ring...

[LeedsLad]

Just make sure that no British ref will be the official in the ring...
Coming from a German thats funny:lol::lol: British referring/judging is as good as any in the world, of course there's been a few mistakes but there is everywhere.

It wont be stopped early, you know the referee isnt going to make the mistake O'Connor did.

[AllyT]

I think that is pretty much what will happen, Calzaghe will be too much for Kessler and I fancy an early stoppage. The only possible way for Kessler is if Calzaghe does not take the fight seriously. I have seen him do this before in Edinburgh and it could have cost him.

[GazOC]

Why is Calzaghe 'fighting to redeem himself'? Because a ref stopped an over matched opponent a little early? Hardly Joes fault....

[AllyT]

Just make sure that no British ref will be the official in the ring...

:nut Robin Reid v Sven Ottke said it all for me. :nut

[Decebal]

Why is Calzaghe 'fighting to redeem himself'? Because a ref stopped an over matched opponent a little early? Hardly Joes fault....

no, because JC has entered the ring against quite a few sub-par opponents. Fans say it was either because the best out there were avoiding him or because he was looking to get exposure in the USA (e.g. Manfredo), in order to make it harder for the US big names to avoid him. In any case, JC could have fought better fighters than Manfredo or Bika had he really wanted to. But now he has decided to take on Kessler - the most dangerous opponent for him out there -because he wants to fight for his legacy and make ammends for all those less than challenging fights he has had for very good reasons or not so good reasons through the years.

[Smazz20]

Not really. If Kessler is taking a bit of punishment I can see his corner pulling him out before the ref jumps in. This is a [Only registered and activated users can see links] bigger fight than Manfredo. The ref is gonna know that Kessler can actually throw a punch. The Manfredo fight was stopped because he froze on the night and got completley overwhelmed. It's unlikely the same will happen to Kessler, but even if it did, i'd be pretty sure the ref would give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Decebal]

I really CANNOT see Kessler's corner pulling him out! That would be a complete disgrace in the biggest fight of Kessler's life. Come to think of it, that SHOULD be an even bigger nightmare for Kessler, than an early stoppage.

[David UK]

If kessler does a Manfredo and looks as though he's frozen with fear and can't throw anything back after a 36 punch combo coming his way, then the fight WILL probably get stopped

[GazOC]

The 'legacy' is fair enough, this a a fight for which Calzaghe will be remembered but he def. doesn't need to redeem himself in most peoples eyes.

[Smazz20]

I really CANNOT see Kessler's corner pulling him out! That would be a complete disgrace in the biggest fight of Kessler's life. Come to think of it, that SHOULD be an even bigger nightmare for Kessler, than an early stoppage.


Well, truthfully, neither of us can say whether they will pull him out or not. He's never been in a threatened position. But, for the sake of argument, if he is sustaining a beating and is behind on all cards by the 10th round, I really can't see his corner letting him back out. I wouild imagine they'll have more sense than Dan Birmingham did when he let Lacy go out round after round. The Palle's arent stupid. Even should Kessler lose this, he's still head and shoulders above everyone else. They can pull him out, wait for Calzaghe to retire or move to 175 and then he can be the no.1:D

[Decebal]

Well, truthfully, neither of us can say whether they will pull him out or not. He's never been in a threatened position. But, for the sake of argument, if he is sustaining a beating and is behind on all cards by the 10th round, I really can't see his corner letting him back out. I wouild imagine they'll have more sense than Dan Birmingham did when he let Lacy go out round after round. The Palle's arent stupid. Even should Kessler lose this, he's still head and shoulders above everyone else. They can pull him out, wait for Calzaghe to retire or move to 175 and then he can be the no.1:D

Tell you what though...I respect Lacy for taking all that punishment - even though he won't be the same man ever again. If Kessler were pulled out, after gunning for Calzaghe for so long and saying that he would beat him...that would be a disgrace! I don't want the guy to be hurt either, but if they throw in the towel, I don't think I could respect him anymore.

[Words]

exactly. Kesslers biggest nightmare is the fight not getting stopped and recieving a Jeff Lacy style beating for 12 long, painful rounds. They should've stopped Lacy after about the 7th when it became clear he couldnt win, because its really dangerous to recieve such a large volume of punches for that long.

[Decebal]

exactly. Kesslers biggest nightmare is the fight not getting stopped and recieving a Jeff Lacy style beating for 12 long, painful rounds. They should've stopped Lacy after about the 7th when it became clear he couldnt win, because its really dangerous to recieve such a large volume of punches for that long.

I guess you're right! I shouldn't be really respecting a guy who doesn't go down to stop the pain more than one who fights with heart and won't go down, even though he takes a hell of a beating. In that case, if Kessler does indeed show that much heart whilst he is damaged by JC, I guess his corner should take him out, for his own good.

Thanks guys for leading me back onto the narrow path.:good

[JETSKI]

Well, if Joe starts his slapping routine (which undoubtedly he will) & Kessler just stands there instead of punching back, then he deserves the fight to be stopped permaturely.

[Half-Dane]

No british refs!!!

[China_hand_Joe]

Mikkel Kessler's worst nightmare is that he won't be stopped prematurely.

[THN]

I can't see the problem about the corner throwing in the towel , if your fighter are taken more punishment than good is. Thats what you should expect from the guys in the corner, but i think you guy's are a bit carried away about Kesslers nightmare, as i it is a facth he will loose in one ore another way. I think the one with nightmare is Calzaghe, knowing who he has to face 3 nov. a lot of people will have a chock, when Kessler destroy
Calzaghe like he did to Beyer.

[Decebal]

Mikkel Kessler's worst nightmare is that the he isn't stopped (saved) prematurely.

But that's easily arranged: You keep your hands down, back against the rope and you take about 10-12 punches before going down on one knee - game over.

[LeedsLad]

I can't see the problem about the corner throwing in the towel , if your fighter are taken more punishment than good is. Thats what you should expect from the guys in the corner, but i think you guy's are a bit carried away about Kesslers nightmare, as i it is a facth he will loose in one ore another way. I think the one with nightmare is Calzaghe, knowing who he has to face 3 nov. a lot of people will have a chock, when Kessler destroy
Calzaghe like he did to Beyer.
Dont even compare Calzaghe to Beyer.

[Gsand]

Just make sure that no British ref will be the official in the ring...

1. German refs are notoriously worse
2. American refs are no better based on recent fights

[Nemo]

I don't think this will be an issue...with all the marbles at stake and everthing. And I don't think Joe will manage to ''swarm'' Kessler as so many people seem to think 'round here. Mikkel will not just stand there without responding. I think the biggest ''nightmare'' for Kessler will be that he will have to carry the wba/wbc/wbo and ring belts and we all know he's got a bad back. :yep

[Decebal]

I don't think this will be an issue...with all the marbles at stake and everthing. And I don't think Joe will manage to ''swarm'' Kessler as so many people seem to think 'round here. Mikkel will not just stand there without responding. I think the biggest ''nightmare'' for Kessler will be that he will have to carry the wba/wbc/wbo and ring belts and we all know he's got a bad back. :yep

:D

[Tom_Tocca]

Coming from a German thats funny:lol::lol: British referring/judging is as good as any in the world, of course there's been a few mistakes but there is everywhere.

It wont be stopped early, you know the referee isnt going to make the mistake O'Connor did.

Robin Reid v Sven Ottke said it all for me.
First of all, Reid vs. Ottke wasn't handled by a German ref. Though, I don't like the way German ref's act (it's the same with Italian refs).
For me British refs are one of the best but if you have a British fighter vs. a foreign boxer it should not be a British unofficial inside the ropes. Just in case of fairness there should be appointed a foreign ref as well...

[Words]

Was he not German? what was he then? Austria? That moustache says he's german if you ask me.

He deserved to be sacked for that performance. Either he's totally incompetent or deliberately and purposefully bias for Ottke. Utter disgrace. Reid won that fight 117-110 on my card. CLEARLY.

[LeedsLad]

First of all, Reid vs. Ottke wasn't handled by a German ref. Though, I don't like the way German ref's act (it's the same with Italian refs).
For me British refs are one of the best but if you have a British fighter vs. a foreign boxer it should not be a British unofficial inside the ropes. Just in case of fairness there should be appointed a foreign ref as well...

Ahh, i thought it was a dig at British refereeing. I get your point though:good

[THN]

I don't compare Calzaghe to Beyer, i describe what i can imagine, if Calzaghe
do what you guy's are doing, underrate Kessler!

[thewoo]

I think people are making more out of this early stoppage thing than they should. One fight against a nobody opponent was stopped early. In a fight of this magnitude the ref will know better than to make that kind of mistake. just look at the 12 round ass whoopin that lacy was allowed to take.

[VIP]

Kessler won't have any nightmares about this issue, he is not Peter Manfredo or even Bryon Mitchell for that matter.

[AllyT]

First of all, Reid vs. Ottke wasn't handled by a German ref. Though, I don't like the way German ref's act (it's the same with Italian refs).
For me British refs are one of the best but if you have a British fighter vs. a foreign boxer it should not be a British unofficial inside the ropes. Just in case of fairness there should be appointed a foreign ref as well...


The ref in that fight is I think Belgian but because officials tend to be in the employ of the promoters this does not seem to help. Officials should be from neutral countries, but the current system means officials are never truly neutral. Kevin Andersons only loss was down to the Scottish judges in his bout and not the 'neutral' ones. The current system stinks.

[Boyd]

Well, if Joe starts his slapping routine (which undoubtedly he will) & Kessler just stands there instead of punching back, then he deserves the fight to be stopped permaturely.no doubt. he knows what will happen if he doesn't throw back.