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shommel
12-01-2008, 12:12 PM
what champion had the worst amateur record yet still obtained a world title as a professional, and how did he get that much improvement?

Russell
12-01-2008, 12:19 PM
Might not be a champion, but Librado Andrade lost all but one of his amateur fights I believe. Was twenty something and one.

catasyou
12-01-2008, 12:21 PM
Might not be a champion, but Librado Andrade lost all but one of his amateur fights I believe. Was twenty something and one.Actually he was 3-13

GPater11093
12-01-2008, 12:24 PM
didnt julio cesar chaves no even fight as an amatuer and if he did he didnt have a lot of fights

Russell
12-01-2008, 01:04 PM
Actually he was 3-13

My points remains! :lol:

la-califa
12-01-2008, 06:25 PM
Did Rocky Marciano fight as an Amatuer? I believe he turned pro rather late in age?

FromWithin
12-01-2008, 07:00 PM
Rocky in the amateurs :
Amateur circuit
While awaiting discharge, Marciano, representing the army, won the 1946 amateur armed forces boxing tournament. His amateur career was interrupted on March 17, 1947, when Marciano stepped into the ring as a professional competitor. That night he beat Lee Epperson by a knockout in three rounds. In an unusual move, however, Marciano returned to the amateur ranks and fought in the Golden Gloves All-East Championship Tournament in March 1948. He was beaten by Coley Wallace during the tournament.[2] He continued to fight as an amateur throughout that spring and competed in the AAU Olympic tryouts in the Boston Garden. There he knocked out George McGinnis, but hurt his hands during the bout and was forced to withdraw from the tournament. The McGinnis fight was his last amateur bout.[3] His amateur years, with an 8-4 record, would be the last time Marciano experienced a loss.[4]

In late March, 1947, Marciano and a few of his friends traveled to Fayetteville, North Carolina, to try out for the Fayetteville Cubs, a farm team for the Chicago Cubs baseball team.[5] Marciano lasted three weeks before being cut from the team. After failing to find a spot on another team, he returned to Brockton and began boxing training with longtime friend, Allie Colombo. Al Weill served as his manager and Charley Goldman as his trainer and teacher.

TBooze
12-01-2008, 07:26 PM
Larry Holmes quit like a dog against Duane Bobick as an amateur.

Russell
12-01-2008, 07:33 PM
Larry Holmes quit like a dog against Duane Bobick as an amateur.

The fight I've seen between them in the AM's went the distance? :patsch

TBooze
12-01-2008, 07:44 PM
The fight I've seen between them in the AM's went the distance? :patsch

No Holmes was dq'd

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rekcutnevets
12-01-2008, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by la-califa
Did Rocky Marciano fight as an Amatuer? I believe he turned pro rather late in age?
Marciano did fight as an amateur. In fact, he lost as an amateur after turning pro. Back then, you could have one fight fight as a professional and return to the amateurs if you felt the need to further hone your skills.

I think I read Rocky's amateur record was around 8-4, but I'm not certain.

good right hand
12-01-2008, 08:57 PM
freddie pendelton won one fight out of 6 amature matches and then went on to beat roger mayweather, jorge paez, tyrone trice, tony lopez, livingston bramble and tracy spann for the ibf lightweight title.

Vantage_West
12-02-2008, 11:55 AM
i heard qawi's was nil....i dunno if that gets around the thread title becuase a pro kickboxer would technically have no wins as an amtuer boxer

Qawi, born Dwight Braxton on January 5, 1953, learned how to handle himself on the tough streets of Camden, N.J., where he was convicted of armed robbery at age 19. He spent more than five years in prison where he learned to meld his street fighting background with elements of the Sweet Science.

Inside prison, a fellow inmate named Malcolm Lewis taught him how to use his feet, how to move and have a good center of balance, something that proved to be very valuable to the 5-foot-6 and a half-inch brawler who came to be known as the "Camden Buzzsaw."

"I learned how to fight on the streets," Qawi told MaxBoxing.com from his home in Somers Point, N.J. "I was a street fighter and boxing was always plan C for me when I got out of prison."

Qawi was 25 when he was released and with no amateur experience, he figured going to trade school was his best option. That was until fate stepped in and a man named Ike Hammonds, who saw Qawi bust people up in the streets, approached him shortly after he was released from prison.

"I was walking down the street and this guy who seen my work on the street drove by," Qawi said. "He jumped out of his car and told me I'd be a champion."

Hammonds bought Qawi his first pair of trunks, hand wraps and other equipment, and brought him to Joe Frazier's gym in Philadelphia. After only a month of working out, he had his first professional bout in 1978. Three years later he was on the threshold of greatness when he took on Matthew Saad Muhammad for the WBC light heavyweight championship.

teeto
12-02-2008, 12:59 PM
I think Conn never fought as an amateur, if im right and correct that is amazing.

Rebel-INS
12-02-2008, 05:10 PM
didnt julio cesar chaves no even fight as an amatuer and if he did he didnt have a lot of fights

Chavez jr had no amateur career, not sure about sr.

he grant
12-02-2008, 06:08 PM
Holmes did not quit like a dog against Bobick. The olympic commitee was originally forcing Holmes to fight at light heavy. They then, on short notice, positioned him at heavyweight. He was too light for the fight and got beat but did not quit. Anyone that knows Holmes knows he never had any dog in him.

TBooze
12-02-2008, 06:16 PM
Holmes did not quit like a dog against Bobick. The olympic commitee was originally forcing Holmes to fight at light heavy. They then, on short notice, positioned him at heavyweight. He was too light for the fight and got beat but did not quit. Anyone that knows Holmes knows he never had any dog in him.

Holmes was very much dogged with being a dog because of the Bobick fight, early on. Hence the amazing Norton performance where Holmes sucked it up and did not cry off with a torn bicep and got the job done and redemption to boot.

Vantage_West
12-02-2008, 07:12 PM
Holmes was very much dogged with being a dog because of the Bobick fight, early on. Hence the amazing Norton performance where Holmes sucked it up and did not cry off with a torn bicep and got the job done and redemption to boot.holmes: i just wanna say fuck you, fuck the judges fuck spinks and kiss my ass




paraphrased by eddie murphy

Sonny Carson
12-02-2008, 07:23 PM
holmes: i just wanna say fuck you, fuck the judges fuck spinks and kiss my ass




paraphrased by eddie murphy
He really said "ya'll can all kiss where the sun don't shine, and for those that don't know that's my big black behind.

SteveO
12-02-2008, 07:33 PM
holmes: i just wanna say fuck you, fuck the judges fuck spinks and kiss my ass




paraphrased by eddie murphy

w8b7n9U6D3Y

Skip to 1:10 :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

TBooze
12-03-2008, 07:53 PM
holmes: i just wanna say fuck you, fuck the judges fuck spinks and kiss my ass




paraphrased by eddie murphy

Hey Spinks was an engaged man, it did matter how sexy Holmes ass was, Spinks was just not that type.;)