Great fighters who were never dominated or stopped

[Rumsfeld]

Can we come up with a complete list?

Off the top of my head:

Hagler
Marciano
Hopkins
Tunney

Who else?

[Addie]

Can we come up with a complete list?

Off the top of my head:

Hagler
Marciano
Hopkins
Tunney

Who else?

Joe Calzaghe
Salvador Sanchez
Floyd Mayweather Jr

[GoldenChild]

Margarito
Joshua Clottey

He did say great, didn't he? :bart

[Rumsfeld]

Am I actually wrong about Tunney? When he lost to Greb, what was the scenario?

[Addie]

He did say great, didn't he? :bart

:good I missed that part.

[GoldenChild]

:good I missed that part.

:D

[Joe E]

Am I actually wrong about Tunney? When he lost to Greb, what was the scenario?Decision.

[Adaptation]

Ricardo Lopez,

Im thinking Vitali, but i guess the Lennox fight counts as ''stopped''

[Thread Stealer]

Ricardo Lopez

I'm sure he had fights where he was dominated (on the official cards I know he was), but Kid Gavilan was never stopped. Same with Carlos Palomino. Duran kicked his ass, but Palomino was never stopped.

[Russell]

Bernard Hopkins

[slipnduck]

Ricardo Lopez

I'm sure he had fights where he was dominated (on the official cards I know he was), but Kid Gavilan was never stopped. Same with Carlos Palomino. Duran kicked his ass, but Palomino was never stopped.
Which fights? I've seen quite a few of Lopez fights and the only ones I think that you could be alluding too are the two against Alvarez - 1st one a technical draw and the 2nd one a split decision in favour of Lopez. I don't think I've seen that first one but I think you could say he went through his career without being dominated - certainly never stopped cos he never lost.

[Senya13]

Which fights?
The statement is about Kid Gavilan.

[dmille]

Carlos Monzon

[slipnduck]

The statement is about Kid Gavilan.

My aplogies Thread Stealer:oops:.
Have to stop reading commas as fullstops.

[ChrisPontius]

Am I actually wrong about Tunney? When he lost to Greb, what was the scenario?

During their first fight he was busted up pretty bad from what i've read. A bad cut opened early in the fight and stopped Tunney from doing much. No one has seen the fight though, so it's hard to know if he was truly dominated, but a guy like Mayweather or Marciano has never been beaten as badly. It's pretty rare for a boxer to retire before taking that last cheque while being washed up and end up getting a beating.

[young griffo]

Edar Jofre

Carlos Monzon

Jimmy McClarnin

Mike McCallum

Johnny Famechon

Riddick Bowe (remember he technically "won" both Golota fights)

Les Darcy

Charley Burley

Naseem Hamed

[laxpdx]

Hagler
Monzon
Marciano
Camacho
Hopkins
McCallum
young Tony Ayala (couldn't resist that one!)

[TBooze]

Joe Calzaghe
Salvador Sanchez
Floyd Mayweather Jr

Calzaghe is not great... yet; Mayweather Jr probably did not do enough either.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Hagler was dominated by Willie Monroe (first time), Monzon was dominated in an early fight by Felipe Cambeiro by all accounts.

[stonerose]

chris eubank was only stopped once due to a huge boulder sized lump growing out of his head , never once dominated. and he is a british great .so there.

[DamonD]

Riddick Bowe (remember he technically "won" both Golota fights)
Yeah, but he was certainly dominated in them.

[DINAMITA]

Edar Jofre

Carlos Monzon

Jimmy McClarnin

Mike McCallum

Johnny Famechon

Riddick Bowe (remember he technically "won" both Golota fights)

Les Darcy

Charley Burley

Naseem Hamed

Bowe did "win" both, but he was dominated both times, so he surely cannot be included in this.

It can be argued that Hamed was dominated by Barrera. It wasn't a shutout on the scorecards, but he was very convincingly beaten, never really in the fight, and got carried over to the ringpost and his face bounced off of it to show who was the daddy!

[McGrain]

Am I actually wrong about Tunney? When he lost to Greb, what was the scenario?

He was busted up pretty seriously. I think it's fair to say he was dominated. A one-eyed Greb hit the town after the fight, Tunney went into hiding for a fortnight.

[McGrain]

Charley Burley


Burley was dominated pretty soundly by Marshall, who dropped him twice. Burley won only a single roung.

[McGrain]

Clzaghe is not great... yet; Mayweather Jr probably did not do enough either.

I rate both as great fighters .

[bladerunner]

Winky Wright.

[Bad_Intentions]

Ricardo Lopez
Kid Gavilan
carlos monzon
marvin hagler
mike mccallum
naseem hamed

[Drew101]

Which fights? I've seen quite a few of Lopez fights and the only ones I think that you could be alluding too are the two against Alvarez - 1st one a technical draw and the 2nd one a split decision in favour of Lopez. I don't think I've seen that first one but I think you could say he went through his career without being dominated - certainly never stopped cos he never lost.

I think he was referring to Gavilan, not Lopez.

Lopez wasn't ever dominated, per se, in his career, even if you consider his two fights with Alvarez to be losses (and I don't.)

Panama Al Brown might have been dominated, but he was never stopped.

[Drew101]

Might throw in Marlon Starling, because his only stoppage was due to being clocked after the bell by Tomas Molinaries, and that was changed to a no contest. And while he lost clear decisions against Donald Curry, I wouldn't say he was completely dominated in either of those fights (he certainly had his moments in both.)

[Sweet Pea]

mike mccallum
naseem hamedBoth have been dominated.

[McGrain]

Both have been dominated.

Where do you find these gay pictures of Whitaker?

[Russell]

McCallum
young Tony Ayala (couldn't resist that one!)

Jones took about every round against McCallum, you know.

[Russell]

chris eubank was only stopped once due to a huge boulder sized lump growing out of his head , never once dominated. and he is a british great .so there.

Eubank was taken apart by Micheal Watson the first time around and stopped by Carl Thompson.

[stonerose]

Eubank was taken apart by Micheal Watson the first time around and stopped by Carl Thompson.

taken apart ? he won the fight !
he was stopped by thompson due to an injury to his head .

[radianttwilight]

Juan Manuel Marquez is a great choice. All of his losses were close and he's never been stopped.

The farther you look back, the harder it is to find guys... it seems that old-timers were, in addition to being matched much more harshly and being stopped/dominated by fellow ATGs, prone to keep fighting on after their best.

[PowerPuncher]

Eubank was taken apart by Micheal Watson the first time around and stopped by Carl Thompson.

Myth, Eubank landed the bigger better shots

[radianttwilight]

He was still stopped, though.

[TBooze]

Can we come up with a complete list?

Off the top of my head:

Hagler
Marciano
Hopkins
Tunney

Who else?

Hagler was beaten convincingly by the Worm, but probably not dominated.

Marciano was taken apart in his first fight and was lucky to be only dq'd.

Jones probably did not dominate Hopkins but did beat him well....

But if Marciano is rightly on the list, then apart from a near meaningless early loss (fight two) Sandy Saddler is a name that perhaps deserves discussion about being here.

[TBooze]

I rate both as great fighters .

:nono Standards!

No, you have a fair point.

[Sweet Pea]

Where do you find these gay pictures of Whitaker?You're gay!:twisted:

These pics are classic, that's a young Olympian Whitaker, pre-fame right there. Rare pic, great stuff IMO. I get most of them from Robbi, he's the man when it comes to getting quality avatars.

[Sweet Pea]

Jones took about every round against McCallum, you know.As did Kalambay in their first fight, against a prime McCallum at that.

[McGrain]

You're gay!:twisted:

These pics are classic, that's a young Olympian Whitaker, pre-fame right there. Rare pic, great stuff IMO. I get most of them from Robbi, he's the man when it comes to getting quality avatars.

He looks like he's waiting for his turn in the shower with "Big Daddy" in that one.

I remember you had another dead gay one too.

[Rumsfeld]

Was just thinking, would someone like Mosley technically qualify? He kept it fairly competitive against Cotto, twice against Wright, and certainly in the rematch with Forrest. I guess that first bout with Vernon is a matter for debate. He did get floored twice, but he still managed to win some rounds along the way.

Actually, the more I think about it, Vernon fucked him up that night.

[young griffo]

Winky Wright.
Winky got his arse kicked by Julio Cesar Vasquez,being floored 4 or 5 times I think and being lucky not to be stopped.

He was dominated in that one for sure.

[Rumsfeld]

Jones probably did not dominate Hopkins but did beat him well....


There was no dominating in that one. Jones won, but that fight was extremely boring. Not nearly enough happened for any reasonable observer to call that a dominant victory for Jones.

[young griffo]

Was just thinking, would someone like Mosley technically qualify? He kept it fairly competitive against Cotto, twice against Wright, and certainly in the rematch with Forrest. I guess that first bout with Vernon is a matter for debate. He did get floored twice, but he still managed to win some rounds along the way.

Actually, the more I think about it, Vernon fucked him up that night.
I think Vernon just floored Shane the once but he pretty much won every round besides the first in what was a very dominant display.

[dmille]

Edar Jofre

Carlos Monzon

Jimmy McClarnin

Mike McCallum

Johnny Famechon

Riddick Bowe (remember he technically "won" both Golota fights)

Les Darcy

Charley Burley

Naseem Hamed

Ray Miller TKO7 Jimmy McLarnin

[young griffo]

Ray Miller TKO7 Jimmy McLarnin
Shit.
I thought McLarnin was a good one.

How about Ike Quartey?

[john garfield]

Billy Graham good enough to qualify for this thread?

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[sthomas]

Hopkins was dominated by Calz. late in the fight, faking low blows and unwantingly participating in the "Brokeback Mt." ride.

[young griffo]

I think some people's definition of "dominated" is a lot different to mine.

Yes Hopkins has lost but he's never been dominated. Jones beat him comfortably but Bernard wasn't humiliated and as for Calzaghe I'd hardly call a split decision win a dominant display.

Bernard is too skilled,tough and crafty to ever get dominated imo.

[red cobra]

Can we come up with a complete list?

Off the top of my head:

Hagler
Marciano
Hopkins
Tunney

Who else?
Carlos Monzon.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Carlos Monzon.

He was dominated early on by Cambeiro wasn't he? I haven't read otherwise.

[TBooze]

There was no dominating in that one. Jones won, but that fight was extremely boring. Not nearly enough happened for any reasonable observer to call that a dominant victory for Jones.

Hence, I conceded Hopkins probably was not dominated!