Imagine this guy was a boxer, ABSOLUTE DYNAMITE IN HIS HANDS!

[Big N Bad]

Imagine this guy was a boxer, he imo has heavier hands than tyson (who i dont consider to be a murderous puncher- just a puncher)
he's only 5'8
his heavy hands reminds me of a george foreman..just watch.
when he hits em they usually out before they hit the ground.

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[Sweet Pea]

Igor was a beast, but he was too lacking in real technique to be a top notch boxer, even if he did have murderous power. He did NOT hit harder than Tyson though, but then he was a more skilled fighter overall.

[Jazzo]

According to Zak that guy can't hit at all.

His opponent had a Grade A China Chin though :nod

[gigogreco]

he wasnt close to tyson, not as a puncher, not in terms of power, technique or being able to throw combinations.. far from.. the average hw hits as hard or harder..

[GPater11093]

it looks like he pushes when he punches

[Russell]

Not too terribly hard to be a murderous puncher when your gloves are multiple times smaller then boxing gloves, on top of your hands being wrapped as well.

Not saying the guy can't bang, but it's relative.

[ChrisPontius]

He looks very crude in his technique, i think he'd lose to quite a few mediocre boxers when it's 12 rounds with bigger gloves. His power can't be denied, but more power than Tyson based on what?

[Russell]

but more power than Tyson based on what?

Kimbo Slice logic. Duh.

[werety]

You guys should watch his fight with ernesto hoost if you want to see what leg kicks can do to even the strongest of guys.

[brickfists]

this is bs.

he wouldnt be doing that if he had to wear 8 or 10oz gloves and use technique fighting a skilled boxer as an oppenent instead of some overated bar room brawlers like all mma guys are.

do us a favour and WAKE UP!

[josak]

^
ya i gotta be honest , i cant stand mma. It's like watching a street fight, with barely any more technique or skill.

There are a few MMA guys who I can watch and be genually impressed , but for the most part , it's like watching a bar room brawl, as you say.

[fists of fury]

The guy has immense thighs, maybe bigger than Tua's. They look like tree trunks!

He looks to be a God-given puncher, but the above posts do put things into perspective. It's not easy to evaluate someone on a 6 minute clip.

[aj415]

Those are the thickest legs I've ever seen on a fighter. I don't doubt his power could rival the likes of Tyson if he was taught proper technique.

[Big N Bad]

im not talking about igor's skill im talking about his immense power. just picture him at 205 with skill and that kinda power! :yikes

im not gonna sit here and argue about igor having more power than tyson. :nono

but what is true, that that tyson wasnt a murderous/heavy puncher. he was just a puncher, if he hurt you, he would finish you with hard combos.

guys who fought tyson didnt think much of his power when they got hit. guys like green, holmes, thomas. tyson put holmes and thomas away but it was with vicious combos after he hurt them.

holmes has said norton and shavers both hit harder than tyson. berbick didnt think much of his power but was impressed with his combos. pinklon thomas also has said that tommy morrison hit harder than tyson.
tyson wasnt the heaviest puncher, guys like tua or foreman punch way harder!

peace:thumbsup

[fists of fury]

guys who fought tyson didnt think much of his power when they got hit. guys like green, holmes, thomas. tyson put holmes and thomas away but it was with vicious combos after he hurt them.

holmes has said norton and shavers both hit harder than tyson. berbick didnt think much of his power but was impressed with his combos. pinklon thomas also has said that tommy morrison hit harder than tyson.
tyson wasnt the heaviest puncher, guys like tua or foreman punch way harder!

peace:thumbsup

I could provide a variety of quotes from fighters who claimed Tyson was a massive puncher.

I don't put much stock into what Holmes said because Tyson beat him. Obviously he's going to pick guys whom HE beat as the best puncher he faced.
Shavers I can understand, but Norton? Come on...
Mitch Green also despised Tyson, so no surprises that he'd claim that.

As for Morrison, well who can say? Tommy had huge power. Mercer claimed Morrison hit harder than Lennox Lewis, so it's not out of the question.
(Of course, note the "I beat the guy who punched harder than the guy I couldn't beat" irony again.)

[flamengo]

He looks very crude in his technique, i think he'd lose to quite a few mediocre boxers when it's 12 rounds with bigger gloves. His power can't be denied, but more power than Tyson based on what?

Pontious.. I wonder if this monkey would be able to last more than 6 rounds.. I DOUBT IT...... this tool is not going to see his 50th B/Day. Another heart attack victum.. or Liver shut down. Ask Andy Hugg about it.. Im suprised that you would suggest that he would even compete in 12 round bouts, even with mediocre oposition... I actually respected a lot of your opinions..... inadvertaintly.

[ChrisPontius]

As for Morrison, well who can say? Tommy had huge power. Mercer claimed Morrison hit harder than Lennox Lewis, so it's not out of the question.
(Of course, note the "I beat the guy who punched harder than the guy I couldn't beat" irony again.)

Right after getting stopped by Wladimir Klitschko, he was asked if he was the hardest puncher he ever faced, and he replied "No, Lennox Lewis was.".

Without making a judgement on whom of the two hits harder, i think this is another case of praising the one who you think you've beaten instead of the guy who beat you from pillar to post.

And there he did choose Lewis over Morrison.


Even though they were the ones getting hit, i think you can't put too much stock into what they say. It's comparing events from several years ago and often a lot of it is emotionally based reasoning.

[El Puma]

Pontious.. I wonder if this monkey would be able to last more than 6 rounds.. I DOUBT IT...... this tool is not going to see his 50th B/Day. Another heart attack victum.. or Liver shut down. Ask Andy Hugg about it.. Im suprised that you would suggest that he would even compete in 12 round bouts, even with mediocre oposition... I actually respected a lot of your opinions..... inadvertaintly.:yikes:nonoI feel you misread his post. He never said he would go 12 rounds and mentioned the bigger glove scenario igor would face. Steroids? Legal in Japan,yes but SOME proof igor was doping would be appreciated.

[Ted Stickles]

He seems to have natural power and heavy hands but his technique is not so good if he had better technique he would have even more power.....he pushes some punches....he could definately be a even bigger puncher thats for sure....I like the 2nd guy he fought they said he was trained by Marcianos trainer....MArcianos trainer was Charlie Goldman and he died like 40 years ago( hahaha)

[flamengo]

:yikes:nonoI feel you misread his post. He never said he would go 12 rounds and mentioned the bigger glove scenario igor would face. Steroids? Legal in Japan,yes but SOME proof igor was doping would be appreciated.

"Read between the lines"... This is my personal favourite means of having an open mind, or being a REALIST.
Regarding Olev, take a look at him.... a very very very unnatural physique, combined with the speed and fire... the man IS A JUICE HEAD.
IF a cop sees a car swerving all over the road, the first though is 'drink driver'. ... in most cases, its proven... Oleg is an obvious user.
Regarding steroids being legal in Japan... child pornography was also legal there until a few years ago. japan is famed for its 'over broadened acceptance of questionable activities'..

Olev is just a short term combatant.. and the memory of him might be impressive for the common folk, however, he leaves no lasting impressions in the minds of realists.

[El Puma]

"Read between the lines"... This is my personal favourite means of having an open mind, or being a REALIST.
Regarding Olev, take a look at him.... a very very very unnatural physique, combined with the speed and fire... the man IS A JUICE HEAD.
IF a cop sees a car swerving all over the road, the first though is 'drink driver'. ... in most cases, its proven... Oleg is an obvious user.
Regarding steroids being legal in Japan... child pornography was also legal there until a few years ago. japan is famed for its 'over broadened acceptance of questionable activities'..

Olev is just a short term combatant.. and the memory of him might be impressive for the common folk, however, he leaves no lasting impressions in the minds of realists.Do you mean Igor or is that his middle name? In regards to his physique, we all come in many shapes and sizes so it does not appear to me to be a "steroid" physique. Of course i am no expert on the matter and someone like Scurlaruntings has a MUCH better understanding of it.

Yes, Japan is a bit strange on many things and I do not feel Igor would be very successful in pro boxing because the bigger gloves would nullify his power greatly. That is not speaking of his crude technique and power drunk dependence on that right hand.

[flamengo]

Do you mean Igor or is that his middle name? In regards to his physique, we all come in many shapes and sizes so it does not appear to me to be a "steroid" physique. Of course i am no expert on the matter and someone like Scurlaruntings has a MUCH better understanding of it.

Yes, Japan is a bit strange on many things and I do not feel Igor would be very successful in pro boxing because the bigger gloves would nullify his power greatly. That is not speaking of his crude technique and power drunk dependence on that right hand.

Got me... my mistake, Igor is the name I had mistaken. Anyway, thanks for the correction, and response.

[El Puma]

Got me... my mistake, Igor is the name I had mistaken. Anyway, thanks for the correction, and response.:thumbsup

[fists of fury]

Right after getting stopped by Wladimir Klitschko, he was asked if he was the hardest puncher he ever faced, and he replied "No, Lennox Lewis was.".

Without making a judgement on whom of the two hits harder, i think this is another case of praising the one who you think you've beaten instead of the guy who beat you from pillar to post.

And there he did choose Lewis over Morrison.


Even though they were the ones getting hit, i think you can't put too much stock into what they say. It's comparing events from several years ago and often a lot of it is emotionally based reasoning.

Well there you go...proof that fighters contradict themselves often. I also think fighters, despite actually taking the punches, are often an unreliable source for evaluating this sort of thing, especially if that fighter was knocked out.

[Stonehands89]

im not talking about igor's skill im talking about his immense power. just picture him at 205 with skill and that kinda power! :yikes

im not gonna sit here and argue about igor having more power than tyson. :nono

but what is true, that that tyson wasnt a murderous/heavy puncher. he was just a puncher, if he hurt you, he would finish you with hard combos.

guys who fought tyson didnt think much of his power when they got hit. guys like green, holmes, thomas. tyson put holmes and thomas away but it was with vicious combos after he hurt them.

holmes has said norton and shavers both hit harder than tyson. berbick didnt think much of his power but was impressed with his combos. pinklon thomas also has said that tommy morrison hit harder than tyson.
tyson wasnt the heaviest puncher, guys like tua or foreman punch way harder!

peace:thumbsup
Tyson was a murderous puncher and it is dizzy to say otherwise. His technique, build, malevolent intentions, and fast-twitch fibers combined to make it so.

This Igor guy had the unqualified cooperation of his opponents, especially the last who posted his chin upwards as that wide right was coming in. Igor's technique is trash and Berbick, Norton, Thomas, and Morrison would have zero problem with a 5'8 HW with bad technique.

[Minotauro]

Igor was a quality fighter with serious power but he wouldn't have had much success in boxing he achieved a lot in mma and thats where he belonged, don't try to compare fighters from one sport to the other their different. Put it this way he wouldn't have been as succcessful in boxing as he was in mma.