Is boxing a team or solo sport??

[SouthPaw_Swamer]

what do you guys think. is it all on the sholders of the person in the ring to win or does he trainer, cutman ect.. have somthing to do with it. VOTE NOW!

[a.arthur.h]

If it was a solo sport you wouldn't have trainer's or cutmen. If the cutman doesn't perform the fighter will lose. A good trainer can give insight on how to deal with an opponent that the fighter might not notice otherwise.

If you get a cut or swelling you are relying on someone else to deal with it. So it is a team. A fighter without his team behind him will not go very far. Just because the fighter is throwing the punches does not mean others aren't involved. I'd like to see a fighter try to stop bleeding or swelling while holding up a mirror for himself to see.

[PH|LLA]

what do you guys think. is it all on the sholders of the person in the ring to win or does he trainer, cutman ect.. have somthing to do with it. VOTE NOW!
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[psychopath]

what do you guys think. is it all on the sholders of the person in the ring to win or does he trainer, cutman ect.. have somthing to do with it. VOTE NOW!

I don't know where you're coming from friend. How can you consider boxing a team sports? :lol:

Of course the trainer and the cutman have something to do with the fighter winning but still you can't call boxing a team sports because only the fighter is competing. Same with tennis, Marathons and Judo and the likes. They have trainers, maseurs, medical back-up personnel etc etc but you can't count them because they don't compete like in basketball, volleyball or soccer. :yep

[kNIVEK]

I don't know where you're coming from friend. How can you consider boxing a team sports? :lol:

Of course the trainer and the cutman have something to do with the fighter winning but still you can't call boxing a team sports because only the fighter is competing. Same with tennis, Marathons and Judo and the likes. They have trainers, maseurs, medical back-up personnel etc etc but you can't count them because they don't compete like in basketball, volleyball or soccer. :yep

what he said

[psychopath]

what he said

Do you know how to read? :deal

:lol:

[China_hand_Joe]

If boxing isn't a solo sport, then no solo sport exists.

[PH|LLA]

If boxing isn't a solo sport, then no solo sport exists.
boxing is a solo sport but tennis is even more a solo sport.

In tennis the coach is not allowed to give the player advice during the match.

[a.arthur.h]

Guess there is both sides of the coin though. In hockey or nfl i consider the coach part of the team. Even though he isn't competing on the field he is still influencing what is going on, and in effect, competing against the other teams coach, just as the players are competing against each other. Its just varying types of participation.

Tennis, its just the player out there. In boxing the trainer is actively assisting the boxer throughout the match and in the cases of good trainers/cutmen, influencing the outcome. Whether it be stopping a TKO on cuts/swelling from happening, or pointing out an opening that the fighter may not see.

*shrugs* Thats just how I see it.

[pipe wrenched]

I have always heard them called Team Calzaghe, Team Pavlik, Team etc,etc,etc,etc.

[brooklyn1550]

Preparation is a team effort, but come fight time, its you as an individual and the other guy across the ring.

[boxingcar]

Team sport , in which one of the members of a team is active (forced to apply the gameplan) while the other members of his team are passive. (not fighting but guiding him , training him , preparing him etc..)

the boxer is their weapon. It's a bit like a chess game.

Perfect example of this. Mike Tyson.
Tyson , without Cus D'amato wasn't the same.

Wladimir Klitschko without Emmanuel Steward would be different.
etc...etc..

[lobk]

Team sport , in which one of the members of a team is active (forced to apply the gameplan) while the other members of his team are passive. (not fighting but guiding him , training him , preparing him etc..)

the boxer is their weapon. It's a bit like a chess game.

Perfect example of this. Mike Tyson.
Tyson , without Cus D'amato wasn't the same.

Wladimir Klitschko without Emmanuel Steward would be different.
etc...etc..

Its still solo. Tyson mentall problem was his and not anyone else. Losing Cus and losing your mental edge is Tyson. Also Wlad learning technique from Steward is again all WLad. The best trainer in the world can't make YOU better. Its up to the individual to absorb and learn cause in the end its your ass in the ring and not anyone else from your team.

[DanePugilist]

Great question - even better than I first anticipated.

Boxing is of course performed in the rounds by two sole performers, but in between rounds this alters mostly.

A lot depends on how well the communication and the teamwork as a whole on the outcoming success. If the teamwork fails - the solo performance is lessened.

Great teamwork is a great key to success - but its up to the boxer put it all to good use.

I voted Teamwork - but if the communication is suffering - it turns into solo only.

[boxingcar]

Its still solo. Tyson mentall problem was his and not anyone else. Losing Cus and losing your mental edge is Tyson. Also Wlad learning technique from Steward is again all WLad. The best trainer in the world can't make YOU better. Its up to the individual to absorb and learn cause in the end its your ass in the ring and not anyone else from your team.

Solo YES if you're comparing it to "team" sports such as what we usually see (in the NFL , NBA , NHL , soccer etc...)

but the principle is the same. Only , instead of guiding several players , the cornerman / trainer is in charge of one guy.

Obviously , ONE guy is doing the fighting.
But at the same time , you can't ignore who's pulling the strings. (and im not talking about don king here). But you get the point.

Let's say , if it's really just a pure "solo" sport.
Then let's imagine the very same sport , only without a single trainer , without cornermen , without sparring partners , without guidance , without etc....etc...

Trust me , 99% of these guys would be different. Very different.
Tyson's mental weaknesses were one thing.
But how did that shit all started?...He was already showing signs of being mentally fragile as soon as D'amato was gone.

[psychopath]

I have always heard them called Team Calzaghe, Team Pavlik, Team etc,etc,etc,etc.

Yeah but that is during negotiations :lol: :D not during the actual competition.

[lobk]

Solo YES if you're comparing it to "team" sports such as what we usually see (in the NFL , NBA , NHL , soccer etc...)

but the principle is the same. Only , instead of guiding several players , the cornerman / trainer is in charge of one guy.

Obviously , ONE guy is doing the fighting.
But at the same time , you can't ignore who's pulling the strings. (and im not talking about don king here). But you get the point.

Let's say , if it's really just a pure "solo" sport.
Then let's imagine the very same sport , only without a single trainer , without cornermen , without sparring partners , without guidance , without etc....etc...

Trust me , 99% of these guys would be different. Very different.
Tyson's mental weaknesses were one thing.
But how did that shit all started?...He was already showing signs of being mentally fragile as soon as D'amato was gone.

Man it is purely solo. Again no matter who you have training him or in his corner but if the guy still has to grasp what is being taught or listen to what the corner is saying. A great team does help but only if the guy actualy has the mental capacity to learn. There have been many great prospect with great trainer who have fizzeled. Bojado is one that comes to mind.

[boxingcar]

Man it is purely solo. Again no matter who you have training him or in his corner but if the guy still has to grasp what is being taught or listen to what the corner is saying. A great team does help but only if the guy actualy has the mental capacity to learn. There have been many great prospect with great trainer who have fizzeled. Bojado is one that comes to mind.


Well obviously , the guy has to be up to the task and deliver the goods and show that he's capable to put in action his trainer's gameplan and show the results of their hours of training sessions etc...

But it's still a team sport.

Answer me this ,
Imagine the same sport , WITHOUT the existance of any trainers , without sparring partners , without cornermen.

Why do you think people bother to mention the trainer's name in the first place?

It's a team sport. not a "team" sport comparable to what we see in basketball etc.. but the principle IS THE SAME.
Only difference , the trainer , is guiding a single athlete. (who's obviously supposed to be capable to apply the gameplan).

But it's the same in every sports..
The trainer ain't gonna waste his fucking time training an entire NHL team if they're all bums in the first place.

same goes with boxing.

[SouthPaw_Swamer]

see, it wasn't a stupid poll.
I see boxing a lot like F1 racing. Ask anyone who knows anything about F1 and they'll say it's a team sport. you could have an average boxer, but if he has a great trainer who watches tape of his next opponent and tells the boxer exactly what he has to do, he can become a very powerful force. Same goes for Cutmen. Better cutman the faster the recovery, thus gaining another advantage.

[kNIVEK]

Do you know how to read? :deal

:lol:

?? i said "what he said" meaning i agree with what you said