View Full Version : Danny "little red" Lopez vs Eusebio Pedroza
bumdujour
08-09-2007, 02:43 PM
who wins the battle of these outstanding featherweights.
lopez was perhaps the hardest one shot hitter the devision had ever seen.
pedroza perhaps its greatest bodypuncher.
both were very tall, pedroza 5´8 (average height for a welterweight) and lopez was 5´7.
overall, i think pedroza was the better technitian. he could box at long range behind a jab or he could get inside and fight real dirty. he was not a big hitter, but his bodyblows wore out most opponents.
lopez was a classic one punch hitter. he jused his jab just to set up that big right hand. never cared to much about defense.
but when he hit you.......goodnight.
neither one had great chins. lopez was down more often than i can remember. but one has to remember that pedroza also suffered a couple of ko´s earlier in his career.
i think this would be really exciting. lopez would drop pedroza early, maybe even more than once.
but slowly by the mid rounds i see pedroza turning this around with his sustained bodyattack and eventually stop lopez in a thriller.
pedroza ko14 lopez.
salsanchezfan
08-09-2007, 02:45 PM
I see Pedroza winning a decision.
TBooze
08-09-2007, 02:50 PM
Pedroza would of found a way to win in 78 or 79, by fair means or foul;)
Pedroza WS15
Thread Stealer
08-09-2007, 02:53 PM
Pedroza wins the way I do in Fight Night, by KO via a kidney punch-elbow-low blow combination.
Doc McCoy
08-09-2007, 03:00 PM
Good match-up and I'm a big fan of both guys but I have to agree with Sal and see a Pedroza win by Decision rather than the late TKO that Sanchez realised over Danny. . . . twice.
Pedroza usually found a way to win his bouts whether by dubious methods or otherwise but the guy was in a bit higher class than Lopez who may not have had the greatest chin but had a tremendous heart and was a hugely entertaining fighter.
I was thinking about a Wilfredo Gomez v Danny Lopez fight at 126lb the other day as it was supposedly meant to happen afer Wilfredo beat Nestor Jimenez - apparently Gil Clancy was going to play match-maker. . . . would have been another interesting one.
Drew101
08-09-2007, 05:46 PM
Pedroza UD 15.
la-califa
08-09-2007, 10:11 PM
Pedroza too fast & too slick to get caught by that devistating right hand. Pedroza UD15.
JohnThomas1
08-10-2007, 04:23 AM
I agree with the consensus, Pedroza UD15.
Pat_Lowe
08-10-2007, 06:48 AM
I'm suprised about Lopez, does everyone really think he was a huge hitter? From most accounts yes, but his style was an enigma, he threw heaps of punches yet was a one shot KO artist? :huh Weird
JohnThomas1
08-10-2007, 07:04 AM
I'm suprised about Lopez, does everyone really think he was a huge hitter? From most accounts yes, but his style was an enigma, he threw heaps of punches yet was a one shot KO artist? :huh Weird
Massive right hand.
Pat_Lowe
08-10-2007, 08:40 AM
Do you think he deserves a mention as one of the greatest punchers ever?
JohnThomas1
08-10-2007, 08:44 AM
Do you think he deserves a mention as one of the greatest punchers ever?
More definition, just power or more? But no, i would say not. Certainly mentionable, but i class the likes of an Arguello clearly higher.
The first major televised fight I saw in San Diego after getting out of Navy boot camp was Zamora vs. Pedroza. I knew Zamora's reputation but little about Pedroza, other than that he was given a good shot at taking the bantamweight title away. But Zamora clocked him with that brutal left hook and that's all she wrote.
I gotta admit, I'm a Little Red Lopez fan because I saw several of his fights and admired the way he rebounded from adversity, both to get off the canvas or withstand punishment, and to snap back from a losing streak to claim the title.
I'll go with Lopez on this one. No way it reaches 15 rounds, tho', not the way he and Pedroza fought. Lopez, TKO in 9. And I'll bet Danny would hafta scrape himself off the canvas at least once during the first three rounds - he was a bit of a slow starter.
red cobra
08-10-2007, 10:55 AM
I'm suprised about Lopez, does everyone really think he was a huge hitter? From most accounts yes, but his style was an enigma, he threw heaps of punches yet was a one shot KO artist? :huh Weird
Lopez has been sadly forgotten for the most part by today's fans, that is, if they've ever relly heard of him at all. H e was one of the most dramatic, Julian Jackson type one shot ko artists that I've ever seen. He ranks right up there with Bob Foster, Julian Jackson, and a handful of other one shot specialists. I'll never forget seeing him on the undercard of Ali-Spinks 1 or 2, defending his Featherweight title against Juan Malvarez of Argentina, when he was decked in the early moments of round 1. The Argentine crowd erupted with wild cheers, and probably were anticipating their man to blow out Lopez and bring the crown back to Argentina. Midway through the second round, however, "Little Red" caught Malvarez coming in with the most casual, understated right hand bomb that traveled maybe 6 inches, and the Argentine dropped to the deck as though he were shot. Out cold!!! The ref could have counted to 1000, and Malvarez did'nt move. Lopez barely lifted a glove in acknowledging this spectaular ko win. He was amazing. However, that much said, I doudt if he would be able to figure out Pedroza, one of the dirtiest, trickiest, craftiest and yet, most underestimated fighter of all time. Pedroza by a foul filled 15 round decision.
TBooze
08-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Lopez has been sadly forgotten for the most part by today's fans, that is, if they've ever relly heard of him at all.
Anyone who watched boxing in the late 70s would not of forgotten about Little Red. His influence was big all though the 80s as well, because he was a measuring stick for the TV fighters of the decade.
Pat_Lowe
08-10-2007, 01:31 PM
More definition, just power or more? But no, i would say not. Certainly mentionable, but i class the likes of an Arguello clearly higher.
Should have been more clear, I'm talking about raw power, not finishing skills or punch placement etc.
JohnThomas1
08-10-2007, 06:15 PM
Should have been more clear, I'm talking about raw power, not finishing skills or punch placement etc.
I rate his right hand as genuine one punch power.
mcvey
08-10-2007, 07:00 PM
who wins the battle of these outstanding featherweights.
lopez was perhaps the hardest one shot hitter the devision had ever seen.
pedroza perhaps its greatest bodypuncher.
both were very tall, pedroza 5´8 (average height for a welterweight) and lopez was 5´7.
overall, i think pedroza was the better technitian. he could box at long range behind a jab or he could get inside and fight real dirty. he was not a big hitter, but his bodyblows wore out most opponents.
lopez was a classic one punch hitter. he jused his jab just to set up that big right hand. never cared to much about defense.
but when he hit you.......goodnight.
neither one had great chins. lopez was down more often than i can remember. but one has to remember that pedroza also suffered a couple of ko´s earlier in his career.
i think this would be really exciting. lopez would drop pedroza early, maybe even more than once.
but slowly by the mid rounds i see pedroza turning this around with his sustained bodyattack and eventually stop lopez in a thriller.
pedroza ko14 lopez.
Pedroza was a league above the thunderous hitting lopez ,in all but power ,imo.Lopez was there to be hit and Pedroza was a cynical pro who exploited every ***** inyour armour he had no qualms about giving you bruised nuts or kidneys ,he was also pretty strong along the lines of a Saddler,every one talks about Sanchez,but imo,Pedroza would have given him all he wanted,and he would have stopped Lopez.
Raging B(_)LL
08-10-2007, 11:51 PM
Unlike most big hitters, Lopez was a volume puncher of the highest order because Danny knew he had to work hard to set up the knockout blow. If he didn`t get it (which very rarely happened), he would at least be secure in the knowledge that he outpunched his opponent enough to win on points. To me Danny was like a termite relentlessly boring holes through his opponents defenses, and before long his opponents weakened foundations would crumble in a heap.
Now I readily admit that Pedroza was the better and more accomplished fighter, but I think Lopez brings him to hell and back and I do not think it is far fetched to say that Danny wouldn`t pull a Zamora on him and clean his clock in similar fashion.
Eusebio did have a fairly regular habit of taking rounds off here and there and let his opponent get back into the fight, before going all out the following round or two and then reverting back to coasting for another round.
Now against Danny he would not be able to take any rounds off and he would be fighting at a pace that he is not accustomed to against someone who would have been the hardest hitting opponent he had ever faced in his career in Lopez.
Eusebio had excellent stamina, but he never had the kind of workrate that Lopez did, and it is my feeling that Danny would hurt Pedroza several times and force him into retreat mode for most of the fight and outwork him over 15 to take a decision.
But the thing to remember here is that Danny was willing to walk through any amount of punishment to get the job done because he had unwavering faith in his ability to land his atomic right hand eventually and take his foe out. More often that not, that faith was justified, in fact it was justified 39 times in 42 career victory`s, and I honestly believe that Danny`s belief in his ability to land the big bomb would have proven right against Eusebio as well.
Lopez KO15 Pedroza
salsanchezfan
08-11-2007, 12:03 AM
Good stuff RB, as always. I wouldn't be shocked to see Lopez land something big and end it perhaps even sooner, but my money is on the slicker, trickier guy here.
I would also like to add that Lopez had a really hot wife. Bonnie was smokin'. :smoke
Raging B(_)LL
08-11-2007, 12:26 AM
Good stuff RB, as always. I wouldn't be shocked to see Lopez land something big and end it perhaps even sooner, but my money is on the slicker, trickier guy here.
I would also like to add that Lopez had a really hot wife. Bonnie was smokin'. :smoke
I know I am in the minority here by picking Danny to beat the more accomplished and better overall fighter in Eusebio, but I just don`t see how Eusebio is gonna avoid getting caught by one of Danny`s bombs over 15 rounds even if he is the trickier/slicker fighter of the two.
If Rocky Lockridge could bull Pedroza around the ring for the better part of their two fights, I see Danny doing much the same but unlike Rocky he would have put his man away for keeps once he connected.
And I agree with you 100% on Bonnie, she was a very pretty girl, definately my kind of gal looks wise. But I always thought that Danny`s sister was pretty damn hot as well, you can see her sitting next to Bonnie during the Lopez-Ayala telecast, she was one sexy broad that one.
Doc McCoy
08-11-2007, 09:33 AM
And I agree with you 100% on Bonnie, she was a very pretty girl, definately my kind of gal looks wise. But I always thought that Danny`s sister was pretty damn hot as well, you can see her sitting next to Bonnie during the Lopez-Ayala telecast, she was one sexy broad that one.
HAHA yes indeed - I noticed that in the Ayala bout as well.
Here's a link to a great article on Danny, his brother Earnie (fought Napoles twice) and mentions on Bonnie & Danny's family.
Danny seems like a truly genuine guy.
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salsanchezfan
08-11-2007, 11:20 AM
HAHA yes indeed - I noticed that in the Ayala bout as well.
Here's a link to a great article on Danny, his brother Earnie (fought Napoles twice) and mentions on Bonnie & Danny's family.
Danny seems like a truly genuine guy.
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.............Thanks for posting that; good article. I'm very glad his faculties are still there.
I know what you mean about the cameramen in the Ayala fight; between rounds, they wouldn't pan off Bonnie, just stood right in front and above her. She was always fiddling with her tube top, thinking she might be showing something. :lol:
Titan1
08-13-2007, 09:35 AM
Pedroza wins by UD in 15, but Lopez would make his presence felt, maybe even through a knockdown.
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