View Full Version : Hatton has nothing to lose......
digiram
08-09-2007, 04:19 PM
but everything to gain. This is the truth. Even if he loses, he's still the best at 140, and can still go back to dominating that division. If he wins, he's beaten the best and moves up considerably in the p4p rankings. It's a win/win situation for him.
If Floyd wins, it's againsts a guy that was out of his league...blah blah blah. He should be fighting real welters..blah blah. He's picked the easiest comp...blah. If Floyd loses, it's the coming of Jesus for the haters.
Illmatic
08-09-2007, 04:24 PM
true.....you cant lose by fighting the best fighter in the world...especially when you retain your world title either way. Mayweather has everything to lose, b/c he's the one on top
Thread Stealer
08-09-2007, 04:24 PM
He has his undefeated record to lose, maybe some confidence if he loses, and his health.
Every fighter has SOMETHING to lose.
bumdujour
08-09-2007, 04:28 PM
depends how he loses. if floyd outclasses his ass and makes him look like a bum, then all hattons previous wins will be instantly forgotten.
like norton vs bobick.
C Money
08-09-2007, 04:31 PM
I have to respectfully DISAGREE!!!
Both men have something to lose, their 0!!!! More than that?? This is a fight between two prime undefeated Champions whose legacies will swing in the balance. If Hatton loses?? Well, to most, he'll be that lesser skilled wrestler who gt by a a lower weight. If PBF loses?? Then the shroud on invinciblitty ans super human, AT GREATEST BULLSHIT will come tumbling down like the Berlin Wall:good
Yes, both men can go on and hold titles again/still, but this is a LEGACY fight more than a TITLE Fight and the respect earned here will follow both foreever. That said??? It isnt the BE ALL for either and there will still be big fights and legacy test's for both. Yet, the winner moves forward in a MUCH BIGGER WAY:yep
digiram
08-09-2007, 04:32 PM
depends how he loses. if floyd outclasses his ass and makes him look like a bum, then all hattons previous wins will be instantly forgotten.
like norton vs bobick.
Honestly, I agree to an extent, with many of the Hatton backers and Hatton himself. He does present a ruthless style that can throw good boxers off thier game.
I don't he will be able to throw off PBF, but I don't this will be an easy blow out for him.
I think Floyd will pull through in the end, but he's in for a rough night early in the fight.
I'm pretty excited about this fight....Can't wait till Dec. 8th.
BTW....Can Floyd get some credit for at least taking this fight?
Its the biggest fight of his career, and the one which will most define his legacy. He is a great athlete and competitive as hell, of course he has something to lose.
BTW....Can Floyd get some credit for at least taking this fight?
You sound like the one taking credit away from Hatton for taking the fight.
Both deserve great credit, its the fight legacies are made of.
digiram
08-09-2007, 04:36 PM
I have to respectfully DISAGREE!!!
Both men have something to lose, their 0!!!! More than that?? This is a fight between two prime undefeated Champions whose legacies will swing in the balance. If Hatton loses?? Well, to most, he'll be that lesser skilled wrestler who gt by a a lower weight. If PBF loses?? Then the shroud on invinciblitty ans super human, AT GREATEST BULLSHIT will come tumbling down like the Berlin Wall:good
Yes, both men can go on and hold titles again/still, but this is a LEGACY fight more than a TITLE Fight and the respect earned here will follow both foreever. That said??? It isnt the BE ALL for either and there will still be big fights and legacy test's for both. Yet, the winner moves forward in a MUCH BIGGER WAY:yep
Point taken by what you've mentioned as well as Erratic, but Floyd, imho, still has much more to lose in this fight than Hatton.
Also, this is def. a legacy fight, and a fight that had to be made. Regardless of what the naysayers have to say.
bumdujour
08-09-2007, 04:37 PM
Honestly, I agree to an extent, with many of the Hatton backers and Hatton himself. He does present a ruthless style that can throw good boxers off thier game.
I don't he will be able to throw off PBF, but I don't this will be an easy blow out for him.
I think Floyd will pull through in the end, but he's in for a rough night early in the fight.
I'm pretty excited about this fight....Can't wait till Dec. 8th.
BTW....Can Floyd get some credit for at least taking this fight?
personally, i give hatton credit for taking this fight. floyd is in my opinion an at least 3-1 favorite with the bookies. i would go even longer on those odds.
last time hatton stepped up to welter, he lost to collazo and admitted later that collazo had hurt him badly. thats why he went south to 140 as fast as he could even if he had to cut off a leg. so humbeling was the experience.
and floyd is much much much better than collazo. and hatton knows this.
he knows he is the longshot. but he fights. respect.
digiram
08-09-2007, 04:39 PM
You sound like the one taking credit away from Hatton for taking the fight.
Both deserve great credit, its the fight legacies are made of.
Nah...I'm not taking anything away from Hatton from taking and even wanting to make the fight. Muchos props for fullfilling the desire of us boxing fans. I'm one that felt that the fight should've been made 2 years ago, but truly agree that the idea of giving Hatton time to gain some US exposure before making this fight was great!!!
He's had impressive wins against Zoo and Castillo, despite what many say, and truly deserve his chance against the best.
Even though I can't stand his style, I have to say that he's more than earned his shot at beating boxing's lb4lb best.
psychopath
08-09-2007, 04:40 PM
Hatton has nothing to lose......
Yeah except his "0" LOSS record. :yep
psychopath
08-09-2007, 04:41 PM
true.....you cant lose by fighting the best fighter in the world...especially when you retain your world title either way. Mayweather has everything to lose, b/c he's the one on top
:yep :good
Nah...I'm not taking anything away from Hatton from taking and even wanting to make the fight. Muchos props for fullfilling the desire of us boxing fans. I'm one that felt that the fight should've been made 2 years ago, but truly agree that the idea of giving Hatton time to gain some US exposure before making this fight was great!!!
He's had impressive wins against Zoo and Castillo, despite what many say, and truly deserve his chance against the best.
Even though I can't stand his style, I have to say that he's more than earned his shot at beating boxing's lb4lb best.
:good
EL BULLY
08-09-2007, 04:47 PM
Floyd will regret coming out of retirement.
He will loose his '0' and tarnish his legacy.
For real his hands are fucked, and against the best pressure fighter out there - that aint good. Hatton wont waste punches on the outside and wont tire all night.
Hatton/Graham are the tightest and most calculating force in boxing. They only take BIG fights they know they can win. Hence Hattons worst performances have been against his smallest named opponents. They have been somewhat an unknown quantity.
Believe me when they do their homework that are tactically streets ahead of PBF and his uncle. PBF is fucked and I can't wait.:happy
C Money
08-09-2007, 04:59 PM
Point taken by what you've mentioned as well as Erratic, but Floyd, imho, still has much more to lose in this fight than Hatton.
Also, this is def. a legacy fight, and a fight that had to be made. Regardless of what the naysayers have to say.
:good
From a fighter's perspective?? Ricky definitely feels he has something to lose and a loss is throwing away the respect and fortune's he undoubtedly feel's he is worthy of and has earned. Which will certainly be achieved by breaking the myth of Supalips, if he can achieve it.
I understand you're point of view and imagine many will agree on that perspective. As i said, I respectfully disagree, it's all good.
Alo2006
08-09-2007, 05:03 PM
Floyd will regret coming out of retirement.
He will loose his '0' and tarnish his legacy.
For real his hands are fucked, and against the best pressure fighter out there - that aint good. Hatton wont waste punches on the outside and wont tire all night.
Hatton/Graham are the tightest and most calculating force in boxing. They only take BIG fights they know they can win. Hence Hattons worst performances have been against his smallest named opponents. They have been somewhat an unknown quantity.
Believe me when they do their homework that are tactically streets ahead of PBF and his uncle. PBF is fucked and I can't wait.:happy
:-(
EL BULLY
08-09-2007, 05:10 PM
:yep :-(
Alo2006
08-09-2007, 05:20 PM
^ U must be a really big fan of Hatton to say this crap! Holla at me after Dec 8 :yep :bbb
rodney
08-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Ya --- your right.
His face is pretty ugly anyway which of course Pretty Boy will do a number on.
He will get good money for taking a good licken.
Your right --- nothin to lose.
Toopretty
08-09-2007, 09:25 PM
Floyd will regret coming out of retirement.
He will loose his '0' and tarnish his legacy.
For real his hands are fucked, and against the best pressure fighter out there - that aint good. Hatton wont waste punches on the outside and wont tire all night.
Hatton/Graham are the tightest and most calculating force in boxing. They only take BIG fights they know they can win. Hence Hattons worst performances have been against his smallest named opponents. They have been somewhat an unknown quantity.
Believe me when they do their homework that are tactically streets ahead of PBF and his uncle. PBF is fucked and I can't wait.:happy
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl more :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl and just for the record:patsch:tired:tired:tired:tired
Toopretty
08-09-2007, 09:29 PM
Hatton more tactical then Floyd..that just dont sound right, let me say it again. Hatton more technical then Floyd..nah..doesnt even roll of the tongue well. That is the dumbest shit I have ever read. Hattons only chance is relentless mauling. If he stops to think and execute a gameplan floyd will smell it and dismantle it. Thats how he fights. A mental fight, hatton does too. But Floyd has faced a wide variety of opposition and all with contrasting styles and he beat all of them. Hatton sticks to the flat footed guys. Never fought a guy that aint there to be grabbed. Hatton is going to eat overhand rights so much he will see it the next day.
splatter69
08-09-2007, 09:54 PM
Cant wait for this fight. Hattons pressure vs PBF accuracy and mobility.
Will be a great fight. They both have alot to lose in my opinion. However Id rather be in Hattons shoes....take a bit of pressure off when you are such a big underdog. Just stick to buisness at hand.
Ok Alo2006. I will keep my bad thoughts at bay and ask a simple innocent question. How much will it cost me for the girl in your avatar to let me use that booty as a pillow for one night? Its just the right size for myself and a girl I know to be comfortable. I claim left cheek lol
That ass is AMAZING
David UK
08-10-2007, 07:12 AM
I've been saying this all along. If the fight is at 147 Hatton really has nothing to lose besides the 0. He is primarily a 140 fighter and when all is said and done he will be judged by his 140 accomplishments. I compare this situation with the one Chavez was faced with when he went up to fight Whitaker at Welterweight. Did him getting schooled by the #1 p4p fighter at the time at 147, even tho like PBF Sweat Pea wasn't a natural Welter, take away from what he did at 140? No. Many still regard JCC as the greatest ever there.
It's all to gain for Hatton with a 147 lineal title on the line. Whereas for Floyd, if he beats Hatton easy at 147 people will blame the weight issue, if he beats him in a tough, close fight people will say Hatton would've prolly beat him if the fight was at 140. If PBF beats him at 140, easily or not, there would be no question marks and it would legitimize PBF's claim that he beat the best at 140. Beating Hatton at 147 won't do much for Floyd's 140 legacy, nor will it add anything to his legacy at 147. If he loses to Hatton at 147, well there goes the GOAT multi-divionsal champ claims. It's a lose-lose for Floyd imo. He shoulda just fought him at 140.
Spot on. A good assessment.
Gayrunner will look even more stupid than he does already if he doesn't win
heerko koois
08-10-2007, 07:14 AM
I give Hatton 55% chance to beat Pbf ........
skellington
08-10-2007, 03:56 PM
How much does Floyd actually weigh? Surely it would be difficult to lose enough muscle mass to get down to 140...
younghov2k4
08-10-2007, 04:03 PM
he has his pfp ranking to lose.
right now Hatton is considered around #6 to #10 by most people in the pfp rankings. (which i think is bullshit)
after he loses, he won't ever reach those spots again. :yep
edit: on another note, this obviously another Hatton fan thread trying to make excuses and discredit to Floyd if Hatton loses.
i say this is what yall wanted, so take the loss when it comes and give Mayweather credit.
he has his pfp ranking to lose.
right now Hatton is considered around #6 to #10 by most people in the pfp rankings. (which i think is bullshit)
after he loses, he won't ever reach those spots again. :yep
edit: on another note, this obviously another Hatton fan thread trying to make excuses and discredit to Floyd if Hatton loses.
i say this is what yall wanted, so take the loss when it comes and give Mayweather credit.
if hatton loses, it won't affect his p4p ranking that much i wouldn't say unless he's completly embarassed, cotto would probably rise above him if he beat mosley and hatton lost but not much lower as p4p rankings stand currently.
igotJUIC3
08-10-2007, 05:39 PM
I've been saying this all along. If the fight is at 147 Hatton really has nothing to lose besides the 0. He is primarily a 140 fighter and when all is said and done he will be judged by his 140 accomplishments. I compare this situation with the one Chavez was faced with when he went up to fight Whitaker at Welterweight. Did him getting schooled by the #1 p4p fighter at the time at 147, even tho like PBF Sweat Pea wasn't a natural Welter, take away from what he did at 140? No. Many still regard JCC as the greatest ever there.
It's all to gain for Hatton with a 147 lineal title on the line. Whereas for Floyd, if he beats Hatton easy at 147 people will blame the weight issue, if he beats him in a tough, close fight people will say Hatton would've prolly beat him if the fight was at 140. If PBF beats him at 140, easily or not, there would be no question marks and it would legitimize PBF's claim that he beat the best at 140. Beating Hatton at 147 won't do much for Floyd's 140 legacy, nor will it add anything to his legacy at 147. If he loses to Hatton at 147, well there goes the GOAT multi-divionsal champ claims. It's a lose-lose for Floyd imo. He shoulda just fought him at 140.
Nah...first Hatton and his dad say Welter is not a problem. Secondly people who say he has problems at 147 are only basing this off ONE fight against a much bigger man who is naturally a welter...floyd is neither....so Hatton fighting at 147 should not mean anything in this case because he is still the bigger man of the two weight wise not height wise.
Secondly.....Hatton and his fans believe he is a great champion and Hatton talks a big game...its a fact all champions move up and down in weight during their careers....Hatton doing so should not be an asterisks when or if he loses if he goes up or down any weight. ALL of Hattons best fights are at 147...period. So steping up is nothing that should penalize either fighter nor should their be any excuses because moving around in weight is what fighters are supposed to do..besides its not like he is jumping 2 weight divisions.
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