Floyd Mayweather jr vs Mike Mccallum at 154

[quickjab121]

Who wins and why?

[jc]

McCallum was a great light middle, while PBF only flirted with De La Hoya and was pushed very close.

McCallum grinds out a comfortable lead on the way to a pts win.

[stevebhoy87]

Mccallum would win pretty comfortably, either late stoppage or wide points win

[stonerose]

mcallum was too big and strong. not even a fair fight this one.

[Flea Man]

I'd say McCallum punishes Floyd to the body, doesn't drop him, but Uncle Rog' pulls him out before the 9th/10th round can start.

It would be a battering, though I'd expect Floyd to be flashy in the middle rounds once he's figured Mike out. Then McCallum would come on strong again and show us just why he's known as The Body Snatcher!

[PowerPuncher]

This 1 goes into the realm of 'who knows', we haven't seen FMJ with anyone who's got the size of McCallum. Delahoya's the nearest and he looked allot bigger, McCallum would be even stronger at the weight. Some are saying FMJ struggled I had him winning 9-3 and he outlanded DLH 2-1 and staggered him.

The nearest stylistic match up for McCallum is Toney, who's 2 inches taller, stronger, hits harder, better chin but with less stamina/speed and perhaps skill

It all hinges on if FMJ's power gets McCallum's respect and if FMJ can take McCallum's shots without being too hurt. I'd expect FMJ's speed to win him the early rounds before McCallum's size advantage kicks in

Theoretically if FMJ can handle the weight/size he has a chance, if he can't then expect him to spoil and lose a UD while knicking a few rounds

[Flea Man]

Not sure if Toney has the 'better' chin. Whilst he did go up to HW McCallum was never stopped, fought Jones up at LHW (far from his best weight) and also fought a young, JMW destroyer by the name of Julian Jackson; took his bombs, then took him out in the 2nd.

I'd say equal chins. They've both taken punches and never been stopped, and I actually think McCallum is the better of the two. More consistent.

[PowerPuncher]

Not sure if Toney has the 'better' chin. Whilst he did go up to HW McCallum was never stopped, fought Jones up at LHW (far from his best weight) and also fought a young, JMW destroyer by the name of Julian Jackson; took his bombs, then took him out in the 2nd.

I'd say equal chins. They've both taken punches and never been stopped, and I actually think McCallum is the better of the two. More consistent.

I meant Toney has the better chin than Mayweather

[Flea Man]

Sorry, point taken, do apologise.

[Addie]

This 1 goes into the realm of 'who knows', we haven't seen FMJ with anyone who's got the size of McCallum. Delahoya's the nearest and he looked allot bigger, McCallum would be even stronger at the weight. Some are saying FMJ struggled I had him winning 9-3 and he outlanded DLH 2-1 and staggered him.

The nearest stylistic match up for McCallum is Toney, who's 2 inches taller, stronger, hits harder, better chin but with less stamina/speed and perhaps skill

It all hinges on if FMJ's power gets McCallum's respect and if FMJ can take McCallum's shots without being too hurt. I'd expect FMJ's speed to win him the early rounds before McCallum's size advantage kicks in

Theoretically if FMJ can handle the weight/size he has a chance, if he can't then expect him to spoil and lose a UD while knicking a few rounds

Nope.

Floyd hasn't fought anybody as good as McCaullum, let alone fighting him at a weight he's only ever fought at once before. Either Mike wins on a clear points verdict, or he stops the much smaller Floyd late on.

[Rubber Warrior]

McCallum. His mix of size, skill and power is just too much for PBF.

Agreed. To add to that, McCallum was an intelligent, cagey boxer.

[Sweet Pea]

PowerPuncher fooling himself again.:verysad

[Flea Man]

PowerPuncher fooling himself again.:verysad

Then you should see what he's said about Arguello on the top 10 lw thread! nothing short of ludicrous!!!

BTW, can;t believe no one is interested in my Jofre-Gomez thread lol. has it been done before???

[stonerose]

mcallum mayweather would be a bit of a mismatch due to the size. no way mayweather could possibly hurt mcallum, while floyd would no way be able to run for 12 rounds against this machine.

[PowerPuncher]

PowerPuncher fooling himself again.:verysad

Would do you disagree with sweet cheeks? Or are you not bright enough to figure that out pumpkin? For the record I'd guess McCallum wins a wide UD

[Sweet Pea]

Would do you disagree with sweet cheeks? Or are you not bright enough to figure that out pumpkin?:lol:Bit ironic.

[Robbi]

I'd give Mayweather a chance against very limited jr middleweights. One dimensional fighters who lacked serious speed, agility, power, and were open defensively.

McCallum isn't just stronger than Mayweather. He's also got the outside game with the jab, accuracy across the board with all punches, and ability to give Mayweather it to the body like never before.

Mayweather probably gives him problems for a few rounds while fighting negatively. McCallum was a very good hitter at 154lbs, so it would be an accumulation job for a stoppage. Landing bodyshots and Mayweather lying against the ropes would be crucial for McCallum knocking out Mayweather.

Points or late stoppage, McCallum.

[Addie]

I'd give Mayweather a chance against very limited jr middleweights. One dimensional fighters who lacked serious speed, agility, power, and were open defensively.

McCallum isn't just stronger than Mayweather. He's also got the outside game with the jab, accuracy across the board with all punches, and ability to give Mayweather it to the body like never before.

Mayweather probably gives him problems for a few rounds while fighting negatively. McCallum was a very good hitter at 154lbs, so it would be an accumulation job for a stoppage. Landing bodyshots and Mayweather lying against the ropes would be crucial for McCallum knocking out Mayweather.

Points or late stoppage, McCallum.

:goodMayweather has not got a prayer in this fight.

[natonic]

This 1 goes into the realm of 'who knows', we haven't seen FMJ with anyone who's got the size of McCallum. Delahoya's the nearest and he looked allot bigger, McCallum would be even stronger at the weight. Some are saying FMJ struggled I had him winning 9-3 and he outlanded DLH 2-1 and staggered him.

The nearest stylistic match up for McCallum is Toney, who's 2 inches taller, stronger, hits harder, better chin but with less stamina/speed and perhaps skill

It all hinges on if FMJ's power gets McCallum's respect and if FMJ can take McCallum's shots without being too hurt. I'd expect FMJ's speed to win him the early rounds before McCallum's size advantage kicks in

Theoretically if FMJ can handle the weight/size he has a chance, if he can't then expect him to spoil and lose a UD while knicking a few rounds

C'mon man. McCallum would be fucking huge compared to Mayweather with today's weigh-in rules. McCallum stops him. Play that card consistently if you're gonna play it ;-)

[laxpdx]

The body snatcher too big and strong for Floyd. Not to mention his power, which adds up to a KO win for the mighty Jamaican.

[JohnThomas1]

Mike is far too big and strong at the weight. This isn't even a match i'd get excited about and i have great respect for PBF.

[GPater11093]

i have always said to beat mayweather you need to be bigger than him and out jab him

maccalum can do both it hink it would be a step to far for mayweather who would fight with courage and would no means embarrass himself he would put up a good show but would probably lose on points

[KOTF]

Mike McCallum by wide decision, and I wouldn't be surprised if Roger stopped it late.

[Mr Butt]

mccallum wins ud if over 12 or stoppage if a 15 rounder

[DINAMITA]

Who wins and why?

It's no slight on Floyd to say he would be brutalized. He is not big enough to cope at lmw, and McCallum was one of the very best lmw's ever.

[Beeston Brawler]

It's no slight on Floyd to say he would be brutalized. He is not big enough to cope at lmw, and McCallum was one of the very best lmw's ever.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Floyd doesn't have the frame for 154 and would lose his best attributes by moving up any further.

Put it this way, if it wasn't DLH and for a huge payday, he wouldn't have gone up..... would prob have stayed at 140 and never bothered with 147, never mind 154!

The eye was on that fight all along I think.

[teeto]

Why do we constantly match Floyd up with these bigger men who are not only natural at the weight but good shouts for the greatest of such division's history, and who were actually able to carry their strength and undiiminished ability up top higher weights still?

Next up, Manny Pacquiao vs Sugar Ray Robinson at 147 pounds, Pacquiao's one win at welter makes this fight as logical as Floyd-McCallum at 154.

Obviously i pick McCallum, not because i even think he is better, but because there are no grounds to say otherwise. Can we stoip this now?

[TommyV]

All that needs to be said is McCallum was a natural 154, Mayweather isn't by any means. I think that about sums it up. I'd take McCallum on points or late stoppage.

[Titan1]

Mccallum would win pretty comfortably, either late stoppage or wide points win

Ditto.:good

[KOTF]

bump

[MRBILL]

McCallum too big and strong for Mayrunner at 154.......... 'Nuff said....:good

MR.BILL:hat