View Full Version : Maccarinelli prepares for 6th new opponent this week
PrideOfWales
12-05-2008, 02:30 PM
Matthew Ellis - former undefeated heavyweight - has been drafted in after the 11th hour.
To be continued...
si_19
12-05-2008, 02:32 PM
wasn’t he scheduled to fight chisora?
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 02:32 PM
No way? Serious?
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 02:33 PM
Ellis is my mate. He can bang like fook.
DamonD
12-05-2008, 02:37 PM
I was totally unaware he'd started fighting again this year.
What kind of shape's he in?
Healy
12-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Heres his record
Has been stopped 3-4 times
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PrideOfWales
12-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Ellis is my mate. He can bang like fook.
Well it's on boxrec anyway:
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scurlaruntings
12-05-2008, 02:37 PM
BWA HA HA he still around! Im sure he could make 200lbs in a day. Enzo`s got an opponent! Britains 1st billion dollar athlete my asshole.
PrideOfWales
12-05-2008, 02:40 PM
It's on ******'s website also. I'd provide a link but don't want to send any more hits his way.
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 02:47 PM
I was totally unaware he'd started fighting again this year.
What kind of shape's he in?
He's in fair shape he fought in blackpool a couple of weeks back. People may rip him but he is the most talented fighter I have ever trained with... that a pretty unanimous assessment within the industry. He's got half a chance he hits a lot harder then Bruce Scott.
Healy
12-05-2008, 02:51 PM
He's in fair shape he fought in blackpool a couple of weeks back. People may rip him but he is the most talented fighter I have ever trained with... that a pretty unanimous assessment within the industry. He's got half a chance he hits a lot harder then Bruce Scott.
Something must have went wrong somewhere so, you havent said anything about his beard, is hes chinny?
zulander
12-05-2008, 02:52 PM
Didnt realise he was from Oldham ill have cheer him on now.
I rember he crowding audley and having a right good go at him despite being a lot smaller
Is he a butcher during the day or is grey matter going
What happens with the title now tho? DO enzo and banks have to face each other next year sometime???
DamonD
12-05-2008, 03:01 PM
How strange, this would have to go ahead as a heavyweight fight or catchweight...so it would be Enzo's first.
djoc175
12-05-2008, 03:06 PM
what possessed the writers of the billion dollar athlete article??he must have shown some promise but his record is less than impressive
icemax
12-05-2008, 03:16 PM
This is fucked up, even by ****** standards. Ellis is certainly a livlier opponent than Alveras looked.....hope he does well, so long as he gets to the arena in one piece. :-(
kayjay
12-05-2008, 03:27 PM
I've gone from disgusted to interested.
To be honest they should of done something like this from the start.
But they where so desparate to have a "World Championship" bout to sell.
sitiyzal
12-05-2008, 03:34 PM
Mentally, Ellis is one of the weakest of all time :rofl.
Fat Joe
12-05-2008, 03:39 PM
Isn't Ellis that Scouse guy who was promoted by John Hyland?
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 03:43 PM
Something must have went wrong somewhere so, you havent said anything about his beard, is hes chinny? He got derailed by some unkonown and it through him right off.. He went from an exciting swamer to a john ruiz clone but in his fight with Swaby bearing in mind how little training he'd done he looked fairly impressive. His amateur pedigree is fantastic.. ABA champ and about 16 other titles. KO'd David Starie in one and was the number 1 heavy for well over 18 months. Ask anyone circa that period of the sport and he was THE best prospect in the UK.
He is suceptable to a dig and is massively temporemental but I know mathew and if this fight comes off he'll give it a real go. And he will KO macca if he lands no doubt about it.
djoc175
12-05-2008, 03:50 PM
He got derailed by some unkonown and it through him right off.. He went from an exciting swamer to a john ruiz clone but in his fight with Swaby bearing in mind how little training he'd done he looked fairly impressive. His amateur pedigree is fantastic.. ABA champ and about 16 other titles. KO'd David Starie in one and was the number 1 heavy for well over 18 months. Ask anyone circa that period of the sport and he was THE best prospect in the UK.
He is suceptable to a dig and is massively temporemental but I know mathew and if this fight comes off he'll give it a real go. And he will KO macca if he lands no doubt about it.
He has less than 50% KO ratio and your talking him up as a banger??:patsch
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 03:57 PM
He has less than 50% KO ratio and your talking him up as a banger??:patsch I hate you. Whats jon Thaxtons Ko percentage, Whats ensley binghams ko percentage, whats freddie pendletons? Whats Emanual Augustus? Fucking boxrec calculation genius. :patsch What is it with this forum recently.
djoc175
12-05-2008, 04:11 PM
I hate you. Whats jon Thaxtons Ko percentage, Whats ensley binghams ko percentage, whats freddie pendletons? Whats Emanual Augustus? Fucking boxrec calculation genius. :patsch What is it with this forum recently.
I don't need boxrec to work out 9/20.Whats any of them fighters got to do with this??I'd also like to this opportunity to remind you that each and every one of his losses have been via stoppage(inc.Audrey)Enzo KO1!
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 04:18 PM
I don't need boxrec to work out 9/20.Whats any of them fighters got to do with this??I'd also like to this opportunity to remind you that each and every one of his losses have been via stoppage(inc.Audrey)Enzo KO1!
Because boxing information genius... their all noted punchers with low KO percentages. Have you heard of a guy called Tim Witherspoon? He could punch a bit too. You know nothing about the sport. Its common knowledge Ellis is a decent banger. Plus he's fighting a guy whose just been sparked and earlier in his career was bombed out by Lee Swaby... by the way Swabys only stopped 11 of 47.
You critisise my opinion when you've demonstrated no knowledge of your own. Stick to doing sums kid. :good
PrideOfWales
12-05-2008, 04:19 PM
I don't need boxrec to work out 9/20.Whats any of them fighters got to do with this??I'd also like to this opportunity to remind you that each and every one of his losses have been via stoppage(inc.Audrey)Enzo KO1!
But the guy has fought at heavyweight and Macca's a light cruiser with a dodgy chin... the words were "if he lands"... which makes me interested in this.
SouthpawSlayer
12-05-2008, 04:21 PM
He has less than 50% KO ratio and your talking him up as a banger??:patsch
anyone who lands flush on enzo with any sort of ko power will knock him out and this guy has the tools :deal
Tuffnutz
12-05-2008, 04:33 PM
I've seen Ellis a couple of times, one of them against Audley where he was terrible tbh.
However i think he can hurt Enzo if he catches him.
He's been training or a fight on the undercard and he's a small heavyweight.
He's a more interesting fight than bloody Alvarez though thats' for sure, but Enzo reallly should have too much power for him and break him early on.
Enzo TKO 3.
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 04:36 PM
Just spoke to him he's going to have a good go at him, sounds determined and positive.
djoc175
12-05-2008, 04:36 PM
Because boxing information genius... their all noted punchers with low KO percentages. Have you heard of a guy called Tim Witherspoon? He could punch a bit too. You know nothing about the sport. Its common knowledge Ellis is a decent banger. Plus he's fighting a guy whose just been sparked and earlier in his career was bombed out by Lee Swaby... by the way Swabys only stopped 11 of 47.
You critisise my opinion when you've demonstrated no knowledge of your own. Stick to doing sums kid. :good
So you are the know all??I questioned your opinion..I am of the opinion that he is not this murderous puncher you make him out to be.
scurlaruntings
12-05-2008, 04:41 PM
I've seen Ellis a couple of times, one of them against Audley where he was terrible tbh.
However i think he can hurt Enzo if he catches him.
He's been training or a fight on the undercard and he's a small heavyweight.
He's a more interesting fight than bloody Alvarez though thats' for sure, but Enzo reallly should have too much power for him and break him early on.
Enzo TKO 3.
This is clearly a bad fight for Ellis who mentally and physically may be at the end of a bad beating. The guy has only just launched a some what sporadic comeback. Even when he was milling around the pro circuit he got manhandled by Audley and then knocked out again when he stepped down in weight against Moran. Ellis was an entertaining swarmer but the guy didnt have a punch that could be respected.Honestly he couldnt crack an egg. His style just didnt suit his punch power. Plus with his lack of size he was easy pickings. I remember his beating by Bakhtov. It wasnt nice. Ellis should have stayed retired. But props to the guy if he can get a result but in my opinion the odds are stacked massively against him.
scurlaruntings
12-05-2008, 04:43 PM
Ellis is my mate. He can bang like fook.Jeff your letting your bias take over now. Ellis was a decent domestic fighter at Area contention but he could never crack with any real authority. He was like watching a white herky jerky version of Joe Frazier who just didnt have the punch to match. Id like to think he could get a result mate but its highly unlikely.
Tuffnutz
12-05-2008, 04:44 PM
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Tuffnutz
12-05-2008, 04:45 PM
Ellis can be a gamer.
Like Jeff said i think Ellis will come to rough up Enzo for a couple of rounds to see if he can get to him andcatch him cold.
I think he can hurt Enzo but it al depends on how Ellis responds to Enzo's power.
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 04:47 PM
So you are the know all??I questioned your opinion..I am of the opinion that he is not this murderous puncher you make him out to be.Ellis KO'd Alexander Vasiliev with one left hook, the same vasiliev who went 12 with Johnny Nelson- Fact.
Ellis rocked Audley- Fact.
Ellis left hook has accounted for most of his stoppages- Fact
Enzo got layed out by a Swaby left hook- Fact
Bruce Scott nearly KO'd Enzo with a left hook- Fact
Your opinion that my opinion is wrong- Troll gay irritating fucking opinion.
:twisted:
scurlaruntings
12-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Ellis can be a gamer.
Like Jeff said i think Ellis will come to rough up Enzo for a couple of rounds to see if he can get to him andcatch him cold.
I think he can hurt Enzo but it al depends on how Ellis responds to Enzo's power.
The thing is Enzo although a solid puncher isnt a great puncher who can put them together. He`s not fluid with his combinations at all and tends to throw loaded clubbing blows. Ellis though is easy to hit. If he can get inside his jab he may be able to roughouse him on the inside but his got to fight dirty and really take it into the gutter if he wants a result.
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 04:49 PM
Jeff your letting your bias take over now. Ellis was a decent domestic fighter at Area contention but he could never crack with any real authority. He was like watching a white herky jerky version of Joe Frazier who just didnt have the punch to match. Id like to think he could get a result mate but its highly unlikely.Scurla love and respect and all that carry on but I'm telling you 100% Ellis can punch. He's got fast hands and he can hit... :good
scurlaruntings
12-05-2008, 04:52 PM
Ellis KO'd Alexander Vasiliev with one left hook, the same vasiliev who went 12 with Johnny Nelson- Fact.
Ellis rocked Audley- Fact.
Ellis left hook has accounted for most of his stoppages- Fact
Enzo got layed out by a Swaby left hook- Fact
Bruce Scott nearly KO'd Enzo with a left hook- Fact
Your opinion that my opinion is wrong- Troll gay irritating fucking opinion.
:twisted:Man i been watching boxing too long as a i remember all them fights. Didnt Johnny got up in weight for that bout? If i recall rightly the WBU was on the line and Johnny vacated it right after the bout. But im sure Vassiliev was a late replacement..
As for Enzo vs Scott the guy really caught life in that bout. He was on the verge of being taken out by the old vet who was wayyy smaller than him and well past it.
scurlaruntings
12-05-2008, 04:53 PM
Scurla love and respect and all that carry on but I'm telling you 100% Ellis can punch. He's got fast hands and he can hit... :goodI never saw it in the ring though buddy. Ellis seemed like an honest pro but he was always on the end of a beating up at heavy. He wore a nice dinner suit though. :D
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 04:55 PM
Man i been watching boxing too long as a i remember all them fights. Didnt Johnny got up in weight for that bout? If i recall rightly the WBU was on the line and Johnny vacated it right after the bout. But im sure Vassiliev was a late replacement..
As for Enzo vs Scott the guy really caught life in that bout. He was on the verge of being taken out by the old vet who was wayyy smaller than him and well past it. Spot on... enzo laid him out beautifully at the conclusion. I accept Ellis record doesn't read puncher but I don't need to convince anyone of his capability. Tomorrows a big night for mathew and i'm sure he like fagan will do himself proud.
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 04:57 PM
I never saw it in the ring though buddy. Ellis seemed like an honest pro but he was always on the end of a beating up at heavy. He wore a nice dinner suit though. :D:lol:
djoc175
12-05-2008, 04:59 PM
Ellis KO'd Alexander Vasiliev with one left hook, the same vasiliev who went 12 with Johnny Nelson- Fact.
Ellis rocked Audley- Fact.
Ellis left hook has accounted for most of his stoppages- Fact
Enzo got layed out by a Swaby left hook- Fact
Bruce Scott nearly KO'd Enzo with a left hook- Fact
Your opinion that my opinion is wrong- Troll gay irritating fucking opinion.
:twisted:
Some of those facts are opinions you thick shit!!Also your opinion is that my opinion is wrong aswell you fucking hypocrite!!
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 05:02 PM
Some of those facts are opinions you thick shit!!Also your opinion is that my opinion is wrong aswell you fucking hypocrite!!
If we're going to be pedantic perhaps the Bruce Scott one could be classed as an opinion. But when an opinion is shared by 100% of the people who review an incident surely it becomes a fact. Anyways fuck you troll cunt. :smoke
TBooze
12-05-2008, 05:41 PM
Interesting fight, Enzo has got some chin demons to resolve and Ellis if nothing else can bang.
Anyone remember the Boxing Monthly article about three fights into Ellis' career when he stated he would become the first Billion pound athlete?
Who would of thought back then, he was about to give up boxing, take up golf and change his name to Tiger?
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 05:43 PM
lol Tiger Ellis?
DamonD
12-05-2008, 05:46 PM
Just spoke to him he's going to have a good go at him, sounds determined and positive.
Good. He'll need to be, to have a chance of the upset.
John18
12-05-2008, 05:47 PM
Interesting development.
Got to admit Jeff, I hope you're right (it appears I like an upset).
Question for you Jeff (since you're an ex pro). Do you think Enzo's power is comparable to a domestic HW's?
brown bomber
12-05-2008, 05:51 PM
Def Enzo has serious power definately enough to put the lights out tomorrow but I think Ellis has got that capability too.... its going to be a shoot out.
John18
12-05-2008, 05:54 PM
Cheers.
TBooze
12-05-2008, 06:45 PM
lol Tiger Ellis?
Well it sounds better than Mathew Woods!
ryanm8655
12-06-2008, 12:26 AM
lmao matthew woods...
GazOC
12-06-2008, 02:16 AM
This is a rare occasion where the replacement is more interesting than the original opponent (well the last original opponent anyway). I think Ellis has a real chance of springing an upset, he def. hits hard enough to stop Enzo. The problem is thats he's mentally fragile and if Enzo dominates from the start Ellis could just "crack". Enzo KO2 would be my bet, either way I don't think it will go 3 rounds.
I'm really looking forward to this fight.:good
robpalmer135
12-06-2008, 08:22 AM
what will enzo weigh?
how can you call ellis "the former undefeated heavyweight"
if tyson fury looses in his first fight tonight, will he be billed as former undefeated heavyweight?
Cobbler
12-06-2008, 08:33 AM
what will enzo weigh?
He weighed in at 195 yesterday.
Charles187
12-06-2008, 08:37 AM
He has less than 50% KO ratio and your talking him up as a banger??:patsch
Does that mean he cant bang or does it mean he was matched well from early on?
Some journeyman out there are almost impossible to stop, even someone like David Haye doesnt have a 100% KO ratio. If he had fought the guy he couldnt stop 20 times, his KO ratio would be well under 50%, does that mean he cant bang either?
Cobbler
12-06-2008, 08:44 AM
Does that mean he cant bang or does it mean he was matched well from early on?
Some journeyman out there are almost impossible to stop, even someone like David Haye doesnt have a 100% KO ratio. If he had fought the guy he couldnt stop 20 times, his KO ratio would be well under 50%, does that mean he cant bang either?
Really bad example. I take it you didn't see Haye vs Abdoul?
Charles187
12-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Really bad example. I take it you didn't see Haye vs Abdoul?
Yer fair enough it was a bad example, I was just gonna generically say theres big punchers out there who havnt KO'd everyone, and if they had all there fights against the people they couldnt stop, they'd have shit KO %'s, but noticed the guy I was quoting had Haye in his avatar. You get the point I was TRYING to make though. :good
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