Who should Wlad face at the Garden?

[KO byBRIGGS]

Pick one....

[getup]

Ruiz..,

[AJAX]

I think a properly in shape Briggs has a early kO shot but that's it. If he's comin in at 275 and stand there like a statue he might as well just try out for Mr Olympia instead

[KO byBRIGGS]

I didnt bother with Ruiz I havent heard anything about him for some time now. He has lost his last 3 fights.

[AJAX]

hopefully it will be 4 in his next bout.

[a.arthur.h]

Ruslan Chagaev is out with a Hep B infection so he can't. And Tony Thompson is supposed to be involved in a tournament for one of the belts..so if that is the case he's not available.

Nobody of much worth is going to be available until sometime in early 2008. So it really doesn't matter who he faces in the meantime. If he wants to get a big name on his record he should go for Toney. If he wants an easy fight he should go for Briggs(I know I'll get eaten alive in this thread for saying that :blurp.) If he wants to clean his record up he should pick Sanders. Other than that there isn't much out there currently.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Toney deserves it more than Briggs? How do you figure that one, he just tested positive for Steroids for the second time and almost lost his last fight to a nobody. Sanders is too old and hasnt been fighting anyone live. I think Briggs is the obvious choice with the rivalery they have.

[a.arthur.h]

Toney deserves it more than Briggs? How do you figure that one, he just tested positive for Steroids for the second time and almost lost his last fight to a nobody. Sanders is too old and hasnt been fighting anyone live. I think Briggs is the obvious choice with the rivalery they have.
I didn't say Toney has done anything in his last two fights to deserve a fight with Wladimir Klitschko. If you read what I wrote above, I said that if Wlad is looking for a big name to have on his record then Toney is the choice. In that regard Toney deserves it more than Briggs.Toney's last two fights were bad, just like Briggs' last two fights. The difference is I was more entertained by Toney-Peter 2 than either of Briggs' fights.

I also mentioned that IF Wlad wanted to clean up his record then he has to pick Sanders. I didn't say I wanted to see that fight at the moment. I don't think Sanders deserves the shot because he hasn't been near a title shot since 2004 where he got dominated by Vitali.

I don't think Wlad gives two shits about Briggs. Briggs has been the one shooting off for the longest time, and I don't blame him. A fight with Wlad is the biggest money fight you can get in the HW division right now. And especially coming off a loss he wants to get that shot.

I don't see how anyone can defend Briggs after back to back horrible performances. I'll be a Tua fan forever, but I don't hold onto illusions that he can do what he did way back in the Ike days.

[KO byBRIGGS]

I don't see how anyone can defend Briggs after back to back horrible performances. I'll be a Tua fan forever, but I don't hold onto illusions that he can do what he did way back in the Ike days. Briggs was the WBO champion just recently he could KO Klitschko given the opportunity.

[Mike T]

His brother

[KO byBRIGGS]

His brotherIt will never happen, though I suspect it would be a great fight.

[BobDigi5060]

Valuev.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Valuev.He's busy fighting in september.

[KobeIsGod]

im a briggs fan, but he should not even try to step in the same ring w/wlad. excuses or not, his conditioning is terrible and this fight would not be a slugfest cause wlad unlike bigmen such as Lennox/Bowe/holyfield utilizes plenty of foot movement. How the hell is Briggs gonna catch Wlad who fights more like Ali than Lennox? This would be a brutal mismatch.

If this fight came off, I'd secretly bet my parents house on this one :yep

It's a shame cause if you watch briggs against lennox, he really had some things he could have really built upon. briggs needs to retire if his health situation can't get better but if he would just train down 25-30 pounds he could get ahold of another belt. most likely a pipedream though.

as for wlad's next opponent, id like him to fight huggybear, which would probably give Ledderman a stroke and then launch him into norman stone's lap :yep

[Armo_Ruski]

i think i have a better chance of k'oing wlad then todays briggs, and im about 15 years younger then wlad... go figure that out... anyways i think wlad might as well wait for the winner of the evander/sultan fight, anyone else is a waste of our time and wlads honestly..

[mykolakozak]

<<<<<<< That man. Virchis. The only one with a fist that can walk faster through Klitschkos jaw than shit through an ass.

[El Bombasto]

Toney deserves it more than Briggs? How do you figure that one, he just tested positive for Steroids for the second time and almost lost his last fight to a nobody. Sanders is too old and hasnt been fighting anyone live. I think Briggs is the obvious choice with the rivalery they have.

Both Toney and Sanders won their last fights

[a.arthur.h]

Briggs was the WBO champion just recently he could KO Klitschko given the opportunity.
Anyone could KO anyone given the opportunity, all it takes is one punch in the HW Division. You still shouldn't bank on getting lucky in any fight. Even if Wlad got caught by a punch from Briggs early, he would do exactly what he did to Sam Peter. Clinch. Briggs has some snap on his punches, but his defense as the fight wears on gets worse and worse. His hands were held so low in his last fight, it was unbelievable that Sultan didn't capitalize on that. Wlad doesn't make that mistake, and if he has the opportunity to unload on someone after he feels the threat is gone, he will.

Your arguement for Briggs seems to be based on the fact that he was the WBO champion, and if he can get in condition. I think its been shown that being Champion doesn't mean much, especially in todays Heavyweight Division. And Briggs has shown that when it counts he just doesn't do enough conditioning training. He was going in with two guys who aren't fighters who rush forward and swarm their opponent. What was he expecting to accomplish by lifting all those weights and seeming to put off any sort of conditioning training?

Briggs had some things going for him back in the time when he fought Lewis. He was quick on his feet, and had some wicked snap and quickness on his punches. Unfortunately now he is just a slow moving four round fighter. He still has great quickness on his punches, but he just can't hold a sustained workrate in the condition he is in.

[sonofdarkness]

Man would you just give up briggs please. This flat footed retard would get his face jabbed off. Wlad would not even have to use his right again. Briggs has zero footwork, zero head movement and does not throw punches he would get killed. It is pretty funny how you are on here still defending him day in and day out. Even though we had to listen to your crap about him destroying Sultan and how he will be in top shape. The guy is a fraud. He beat ten cans in a row and got a couple lucky punches to win a belt. He has not beaten a good fighter ever. He does not deserve a title shot with Wlad. Back to the cab driver circuit where he belongs!

[a.arthur.h]

Just looking through Briggs' record..I'd like to know exactly what prompts the view that he can do anything other than get lucky? Here are some noteworthy fights in his career.

Sultan Ibragimov L : Horrible performance, easily decisioned in my opinion.
Jameel McCline L
Sedreck Fields L : :bloodyikes. 9-9-0
Frans Botha D
Lennox Lewis L : Nothing to really be ashamed of. Absolutely no doubt Briggs was about to stop Lewis in round 6.
George Foreman W : This isn't really an incredible achievement considering the advanced age.
Darroll Wilson L : 15-0-2


The ONLY fighters of note that he has beaten have been an old Foreman, and Lyakhovich whose only win of note was against Lamon Brewster.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Both Toney and Sanders won their last fightsI never said they lost..... I said Toney almost lost (SD)...with steroids.


Corrie Sanders. Just to be able to say he beat every man he ever faced. If not Sanders

Next two picks would be Virchis or Thompson

What about the great Ross Purity? Briggs isnt the only one with a stained record. Brigg's loss to Fields in no worse than that to Purity.

[MacManJr.]

Anyone with a belt.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Anyone with a belt.They are all busy for now and Wlad wants a fight this year.

[El Bombasto]

Briggs would have to win a tune-up in order for a fight with Wlad to sell

[KO byBRIGGS]

a unification but before how bout liakovich or anthony tompson anyways the division so whoever.the most id liek to see the most is povetkincause Sergei somehow deserves it more than Briggs who KO'd that scared bitch.

[El Bombasto]

cause Sergei somehow deserves it more than Briggs who KO'd that scared bitch.

It seems as if any opponent other than Briggs is unacceptable to you.

[Asterion]

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Chagaev.....Hepatitis B.

Ibragimov.....fighting Evan Fields.

Maskaev.....fighting Peter.

Peter.....fighting Maskaev.

Byrd......IBF tournament (and also Sasha, Brock and Chambers)

Liakhovich....WBA tournament (and also Valuev, TOS, Ruiz, etc)

Rahman....fighting Tye Fields.

Thompson....he's not stupid and will wait for his WBO title shot.

McCall....he'll wait for his WBC title shot.

Holyfield....fighting Ibragimov.

Vladimir Virchis......free.

Corrie Sanders.....free.

[El Bombasto]

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Chagaev.....Hepatitis B.

Ibragimov.....fighting Evan Fields.

Maskaev.....fighting Peter.

Peter.....fighting Maskaev.

Byrd......IBF tournament (and also Sasha, Brock and Chambers)

Liakhovich....WBA tournament (and also Valuev, TOS, Ruiz, etc)

Rahman....fighting Tye Fields.

Thompson....he's not stupid and will wait for his WBO title shot.

McCall....he'll wait for his WBC title shot.

Holyfield....fighting Ibragimov.

Vladimir Virchis......free.

Corrie Sanders.....free.

Is Rahman-Fields a done deal?

[KO byBRIGGS]

It seems as if any opponent other than Briggs is unacceptable to you.Not quite, but not another guy like Sanders(old and usless now), Virchis has no chance against Wlad. Briggs is the only opponent not locked down with fights coming up.

Klitschko vs Briggs at the Gardens!

[SevenSamurai]

He should fight BRIGGS for these reasons...

He is the biggest name
He is hideously over-rated by US fight fans and US media
He is a very easy fight
I will enjoy watching that lump of roids get KO'd

[jopez707]

Briggs is a non-factor in the division he is barely top 25...

[KO byBRIGGS]

Briggs is a non-factor in the division he is barely top 25...this according to you...
fightnews ranks him as does the WBO.

[brooklyn1550]

Vladimir Virchis

[SevenSamurai]

Briggs is a non-factor in the division he is barely top 25...

He is the same level as Virchis or Sanders is, isnt he?

I would bet that Virchis, Sanders against Briggs would be a pick em fight.

They all get KO'd early and beaten easily.

This is just a keep busy fight anyway.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Vladimir VirchisMichael Sprott is his only notable victory how does this guy deserve anything?

[Asterion]

Is Rahman-Fields a done deal?


I think it is (if Rahman wins his next fight against Dicky Ryan).

[Asterion]

Michael Sprott is his only notable victory how does this guy deserve anything?

And also a close fight against Chagaev.

Briggs didn't deserve to fight Liakhovich fought he fought and won. Nobody complains. You don't have to be an accomplished heavyweight to get a title shot.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Briggs didn't deserve to fight Liakhovich fought he fought and won. Nobody complains. You don't have to be an accomplished heavyweight to get a title shot.Atleast Briggs has had big fights in the past prior to that title shot and a crap load of KO vicotires in a rowe got him there. Virchis would get KO'd by the 3rd round against Wlad.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Briggs didn't deserve to fight Liakhovich fought he fought and won. Nobody complains. You don't have to be an accomplished heavyweight to get a title shot.Atleast Briggs has had big fights in the past prior to that title shot and a crap load of KO vicotires in a rowe got him there. Virchis would get KO'd by the 3rd round against Wlad.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Briggs didn't deserve to fight Liakhovich fought he fought and won. Nobody complains. You don't have to be an accomplished heavyweight to get a title shot.Atleast Briggs has had big fights in the past prior to that title shot and a crap load of KO vicotires in a rowe got him there. Virchis would get KO'd by the 3rd round against Wlad.

[KO byBRIGGS]

oops double post, ah well hopefully we see Wlad fight again this year anyways. Whether its Briggs or not I just think that if someone calls someone out and there isnt a great choice of opponents than that should be reason enough especially considering Briggs was just a championa few months ago.

[El Bombasto]

Atleast Briggs has had big fights in the past prior to that title shot and a crap load of KO vicotires in a rowe got him there. Virchis would get KO'd by the 3rd round against Wlad.

I don't think Wlad would be able to KO Virchis, his chin seems pretty solid. I would also pick Virchis over Briggs at this point.

[RonnieHornschuh]

briggs, rahman, toney are logical. he can't fight "What's his name again?" in the garden, he would have problems selling it out. it also would be a waste of time to fight a complete unknown, which he probably already knocked out in sparring.

[andyZOR]

Briggs. Why? becouse hes been calling him out for a long time now... and I just wanna see him[Briggs] get KOd. ^^

[El Bombasto]

I suppose in a financial sense Briggs at The Garden would be a good fight for Wlad. He would most likely look good against a well known fighter in the US, and would probably be able to sell out the fight. Meaningless fight, but a good way to increase his profile here.

[Dorfmeister]

Wladimir Klitschko will be working around whatever happens and whoever appears so what's the point of tryin to play matchmakers? I don't think Wlad, Manny or Bernd Broente owe any explanations on whom they'd rather negotiate with cause they may have elements we probably don't have and they are not supposed to prove anything at all to start with. Contenders will always covet what titlists have so when they challenge someone in particular, I believe they have the solid base to take their chances anyway - maybe Shannon realized Wlad has always shown something akin to growing panic and he can deliver the coup de grâce ( a la Lyakhovich) that will turn his bones into liquid, maybe Wlad sees in Shannon ( or Sanders or Purity) the means to justify his "supple grace" or to give the "touch of class" inherent in his allure - it is impossible to know exactly what one would do until the occasion arises anyway - so it's not who he should (false question), it's who he could face cause the powers that be don't want him to pick an opponent, neither do I to be frank, it's the winner of the IBF tournament for Wlad and nothing more, life goes on and so do I.

[KO byBRIGGS]

I heard Wlad wanted to fight this year though..... so it will have to be Briggs, Sanders, or Virchis

[barneyrub]

He will go for Toney or Briggs, another easy win against a nothing opponent.

[tays001]

I didnt bother with Ruiz I havent heard anything about him for some time now. He has lost his last 3 fights.

BRIGGS LOOK LIKE HE GOTS SKINNY LEGGS

[DoumB]

Briggs was the WBO champion just recently he could KO Klitschko given the opportunity.

are u fuckin kidding me? dude just leave it, u crearly are loosing some

[EpsilonAxis]

Valuev, Briggs, Liajovich, Skelton, Gomez are all good choices.

[KO byBRIGGS]

are u fuckin kidding me? dude just leave it, u crearly are loosing some
I am what? "crearly" "loosing" ?????you lost me dude.......


I said Briggs COULD KO Klitschko and any intelligent fan would see that Briggs has atleast a punchers chance.....

[SevenSamurai]

He will go for Toney or Briggs, another easy win against a nothing opponent.

He can only fight the best available contender, and that is between Vichis or Briggs as already discussed. His last 4 fights have also been against the best available contender. It is not his fault that he so much better than the other contenders out there - you idiotic hater.:blood

[KO byBRIGGS]

He can only fight the best available contender, and that is between Vichis or Briggs as already discussed. His last 4 fights have also been against the best available contender. It is not his fault that he so much better than the other contenders out there - you idiotic hater.I agree Wlad has taken on credible opponents/Austin (not his fault mandatory). If he wants to convince me he has no fear and is head and shoulders above the rest all he has to do is fight the cannon.

[DoumB]

I agree Wlad has taken on credible opponents/Austin (not his fault mandatory). If he wants to convince me he has no fear and is head and shoulders above the rest all he has to do is fight the cannon.

:lol:

[H .]

I heard Wlad wanted to fight this year though..... so it will have to be Briggs, Sanders, or Virchis

Thompson says he wants to stay busy and fight later this year. I know he's in line with a WBO shot, but if he truly think he's the best he should take the fight with Wlad. Plus, Tony's ranked #10 by the Ring.
Otherwise, take Virchis, ranked #9 by the Ring. :deal

[Odo]

Atleast Briggs has had big fights in the past prior to that title shot and a crap load of KO vicotires in a rowe got him there. Virchis would get KO'd by the 3rd round against Wlad.


Who wants to watch Briggs vs Wlad? You?

I dont know whether Wlad would be able to stop Virchis in round 3 or not,but I have no doubt that Virchis would beat the shit out of Sedrick Fields if they even met each other in a box ring.
As you may know your hero Briggs once faced Fields in the ring losing a point decision to him.
After Briggs outstandingly lame performance against Sultan-who is the weakest champ out there IMO-who really wants to see Briggs again in a title fight`?
You can say a lot about Virchis,but his fights are usually quite entertaining and fun to watch.Virchis' encounter with his talented compatriot Bidenko was one of the most exciting heavy weight fights which could be seen within the last couple of years.
I for my part prefer Virchis getting his title shot to Briggs getting another attempt to bore the worldwide audience.
Besides Virchis truly deserves a title shot,and his firepower is a threat to any present heavy weight.

[Club Fighter]

Man would you just give up briggs please. This flat footed retard would get his face jabbed off. Wlad would not even have to use his right again. Briggs has zero footwork, zero head movement and does not throw punches he would get killed. It is pretty funny how you are on here still defending him day in and day out. Even though we had to listen to your crap about him destroying Sultan and how he will be in top shape. The guy is a fraud. He beat ten cans in a row and got a couple lucky punches to win a belt. He has not beaten a good fighter ever. He does not deserve a title shot with Wlad. Back to the cab driver circuit where he belongs!

:clap: I applaud you, sir, but I'm still amazed it took 19 posts for someone to state the truth.

[Club Fighter]

Just looking through Briggs' record..I'd like to know exactly what prompts the view that he can do anything other than get lucky? Here are some noteworthy fights in his career.

Sultan Ibragimov L : Horrible performance, easily decisioned in my opinion.
Jameel McCline L
Sedreck Fields L : :bloodyikes. 9-9-0
Frans Botha D
Lennox Lewis L : Nothing to really be ashamed of. Absolutely no doubt Briggs was about to stop Lewis in round 6.
George Foreman W : This isn't really an incredible achievement considering the advanced age.
Darroll Wilson L : 15-0-2


The ONLY fighters of note that he has beaten have been an old Foreman, and Lyakhovich whose only win of note was against Lamon Brewster.

I don't know if you've actually seen that fight, but just so that you know, although awarded the victory, Shannon lost that fight.


Dear KObyBriggs, with a handle like yours please name me anyone noteworthy that Briggs has indeed KO'd.

[DamonD]

Thompson and McCall should be sitting pretty for their mandatory shots at the WBO and WBC champions respectively.

Chagaev has the infection to deal with at the moment.

Both Briggs and Sanders would be total wastes of time IMO.
I know people go on about this 'revenge your losses' stuff but so very very few HWs in history have beaten all their opponent ever anything, I think it's only like 3 guys...so Wlad beating up Grampa Sanders would be a waste of a fight in my mind.

Toney should not be anywhere near a title fight at the moment. He shouldn't even be allowed to fight again so soon I believe, so don't gift the guy a title shot like that - he doesn't deserve it.

Which leaves Virchis...not exactly the top contender, but maybe he would do. It would be a keep-busy fight of reasonable challenge and danger to keep Wlad's mind on the job, whilst waiting for a bigger slot to become available.

[RUSKULL]

I never said they lost..... I said Toney almost lost (SD)...with steroids.

What about the great Ross Purity? Briggs isnt the only one with a stained record. Brigg's loss to Fields in no worse than that to Purity.

Purrity is a better fighter than Fields. Bigger punch & better durability.

Fuck BRiggs, he doesn't deserve to go to the front of the line after 2 shitty performances back to back. He's not exciting, he's boring, slow & I don't wish to ever see him fight again.

KObyBriggs, you need to let go & find a new HW to admire, let me recommend Wladimir Klitschko!

[Danny Ocean]

virchis or thompson