Pacquaio vs Hatton

[Uppercut83]

This would be hilarious, a total missmatch, Hatton wouldn't win a round and would be beaten beyond belief, it'll be worse than the PBF fight.

[GazOC]

I clicked on this thread and then, too late, realized who the thread starter was....

[Uppercut83]

Yes, the realist, i don't nuthug the Brits just for being British, i actually look at styles.

[GazOC]

Yes, the realist, i don't nuthug the Brits just for being British, i actually look at styles.

Oh, you're a real boxing fan eh?

Based on styles, who did you pick for Hatton-Malinaggi?

[KCD]

Put it this way it will be alot closer than DLH v Pac.

Its a 50/50 fight imo.

[mattress]

A Scottish Hatton hater. No there's a shocker for you!

What has Hatton done to make the sweaties hate him so badly???

[TFFP]

I honestly don't think it would be that much closer. I think Hatton would probably try to be more active than Hoya, but I think he'd take quite a beating in doing so. I think he'd cut, swell, get hurt before being stopped accumuatively.

I think this fight would retire Hatton, sorry to his fans.

Pacquiao Mayweather, now that is really interesting.

[Uppercut83]

Oh, you're a real boxing fan eh?

Based on styles, who did you pick for Hatton-Malinaggi?

I picked Hatton to win but wanted Paulie to win.

[Uppercut83]

I honestly don't think it would be that much closer. I think Hatton would probably try to be more active than Hoya, but I think he'd take quite a beating in doing so. I think he'd cut, swell, get hurt before being stopped accumuatively.

I think this fight would retire Hatton, sorry to his fans.

Pacquiao Mayweather, now that is really interesting.

Don't say that around here, Hatton is unbeatable to these huggers :lol:

[GazOC]

Don't say that around here, Hatton is unbeatable to these huggers :lol:

I don't see many posts predicting a Hatton win? Do you?

[Uppercut83]

It'll be priceless watching him get smashed up infront of his adoring fans again, hopefully they can bring Pac over to Wembley to smash him up.

[GazOC]

Do you feel being a hater gives you a better perspective on this fight than being a hugger?

[Uppercut83]

Clearly because at least the haters know boxing and dislike Hatton for his ugly style and dirty tactics, the majority of Hatton fans only like Hatton and not the sport, some of them didn't even know who Mayweather was before the fight, i'm sure some don't know who Pac is now.

It'll be "Hatton beat Paulie and he was the best so Pacquaio will get KTFO" :lol:

[Boxing Fanatic]

I would love to see hatton-pacman. It would be a fight fan's dream. I do think the pacman would gobble him up, though. He's on another level right now.

[widdy]

i thought DLH was a standing target,just plodding along not throwing much,not even hitting pacman with 1 good shot all fight.do you think pacman of last night would of beaten a DLH of say,4y ago?how do you know what pacman would do when hatton catchs him,he has been hurt of featherweights,even knocked out by them.hattton wouldent just be stood there like a statue,im not saying he would beat him,but it defo would be 50/50

[Uppercut83]

i thought DLH was a standing target,just plodding along not throwing much,not even hitting pacman with 1 good shot all fight.do you think pacman of last night would of beaten a DLH of say,4y ago?how do you know what pacman would do when hatton catchs him,he has been hurt of featherweights,even knocked out by them.hattton wouldent just be stood there like a statue,im not saying he would beat him,but it defo would be 50/50


Really?

If you belive its 50/50 then you have no future as a bookmaker :p

Juan Lazcano hurt Ricky, his punch resistance is gone, don't let the Paulie win fool you, Pac will make him look like an amatuer and stop him.

[widdy]

ps,saying the majority of hatton fans don't know boxing,go down a boxing gym in britain and ask the BOXERS what they think of hatton!

[Uppercut83]

ps,saying the majority of hatton fans don't know boxing,go down a boxing gym in britain and ask the BOXERS what they think of hatton!

Good for them, maybe thats why British boxers is such a low standard because thats what they aspire to, our fighters are technically flawed and are novices compared to the Latinos and Americans by majority.

[bigG]

hatton vs pacman is one of my dream fights...a REAL fight....hatton is a monster at that weight when he is 'right' and pac is , as someone already said, on anther level.....i see the fight being an all action, skillfull brawl, tko either way around round 10....pac 60/40 ....but you write off hatton in this kind of fight at your peril...i cant wait..

[widdy]

i always said hatton would break paulie in half,he shouldent of been in the ring with hatton.he had 1 decent fight with cotto,and got the shit kicked out of him.
im no hatton nuthugger,i think he is a good boxer/fighter,a bit of a dick sometimes outside the ring,but were all knobs sometimes.
i will bet on hatton,maybe i will lose,maybe not,we wont know till fight night:good

[widdy]

did you watch the olympics uppercut,i thought we did ok,im sure we did better than the yanks.theres a lot of good pro's over here,i reacon we do alright compared to the yanks,look at the size of america to england,there bound to have more talent,theres about a zillion more people

[GazOC]

Clearly because at least the haters know boxing and dislike Hatton for his ugly style and dirty tactics, the majority of Hatton fans only like Hatton and not the sport, some of them didn't even know who Mayweather was before the fight, i'm sure some don't know who Pac is now.

It'll be "Hatton beat Paulie and he was the best so Pacquaio will get KTFO" :lol:

You speak for all these Hatton fans then do you? Whether people who "know boxing" hate Hatton or not (which is bollocks BTW), being a hater makes you no more objective on this fight than being a fan.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Style wise Pacman would destroy Hatton especially the way he fights now boxing on his toes with lots of speed, lateral movement and power. Hattton's defence is still as open as ever.

[Healy]

What a fight it could be

Honestly its 80/20 Pacman!!

Things that would be different to the Oscar-Pacman fight though
1-Hatton would be more game
2-Pacman would land way more clean shot against a lesser defence
3-Hatton might have a punchers chance for the first 6 round as his stupid come foward style is more relentless

Things that would be the same
1-Pacman would win by late TKO
2-Hatton would struggle with the southpaw same as Oscar (straight left etc)
3-It would be brutally one sided boxing wise

Actually the more i read into the fight, the only thing i can say for Hatton is he would have a punchers chance, no more.

Pacman beat Oscar in a way Floyd couldnt, because of a few reasons, his in and out style, wasp like...Hatton also comes forward like Oscar bu as i say more relentless but with less defence, these things would even themselves out, Hatton might get a small bit more success but get clobbered more also and would get mauled by Pacman in a boxing lesson

[MightyLondoner]

Hatton - Pacquaio would definately be a much closer fight, all depends on wether Hatton can get in close with him and nullify his speed but i definately think its pretty much a 50-50 fight, De La Hoya was woeful last night and age clearly caught up with him not taking anything away from Pacman as i admire him very much but it would be a lot tougher against Hatton.

[Infern0]

I don't even think Ricky has a punchers chance, when was the last time he Ko'd someone? Ricky can't hit hard enough to do enough damage to Manny, Hatton would gety Ko'd faster tha Pbf did to him, this fight is the END for Hatton

[trotter]

Good for them, maybe thats why British boxers is such a low standard because thats what they aspire to, our fighters are technically flawed and are novices compared to the Latinos and Americans by majority.

You my friend are an idiot

Sorry

Per capita Britain is a strong boxing nation

Dear me, why am I arguing with such a simpleton

[trotter]

I don't even think Ricky has a punchers chance, when was the last time he Ko'd someone? Ricky can't hit hard enough to do enough damage to Manny, Hatton would gety Ko'd faster tha Pbf did to him, this fight is the END for Hatton

Hatton troubled Paulie enough and he's a durable fully blown 140 lb'er

People are going WAY overboard about Pacman's win

Have you ever seen him fight before? He's not turned into Superman overnight.

Oscar was DEAD at the weight. That's at least half the story.

[NJ1979]

I don't even think Ricky has a punchers chance, when was the last time he Ko'd someone? Ricky can't hit hard enough to do enough damage to Manny, Hatton would gety Ko'd faster tha Pbf did to him, this fight is the END for Hatton

He stopped Malignaggi, which Cotto couldn't do. Manny hasn't been hit seriously at LW, so there's a fair chance of Hatton doing some damage, especially with his body shots. I'd still favour Manny, but it'd be a competitive fight.

[SouthpawSlayer]

manny would take ricky apart

[Beeston Brawler]

Hatton also has much better footwork than Hoya

[TFFP]

I would be amazed if somebody came up with a plausible explanation for Hatton.

[trotter]

I would be amazed if somebody came up with a plausible explanation for Hatton.

I'd be amazed if anybody thought Oscar was a decent representation of a top 140/147 fighter last night

He was a shell

[JonOli]

Hatton via half nelson.

[stuey]

manny looked great, no doubt about it, but dlh did nowt...

ricky would make life tough for manny, hit his arms, body, behind the head grapple with him, lean on him etc...

also everyone forgets manny has been stopped before and that was at super flyweight ffs...

anyone who says this fight would be totally one sided is a hater simple..

i agree pacs speed probably gives him an edge but its still only a 60/40 fight for me...

[bronze_bandit]

I had butterflies in my stomach on this fight....
fair nough pacman would swarm hatton an he's liable to bust up, but these two goin head to head with hatton havin the whole british public behind him, i know he'd still keep on comin...an that my friends is a dangerous man!!?
Ricky will get pointers from Barrera who put a sterling effort 2nd time round, an with mayweather in his corner...this would be a classic!!!?

[TFFP]

Yeah it would be a classic beating for Hatton.

Manny Pacquiao can beat Hatton in any which way he chooses. If he wants to box Hatton's ass he can, like he did last night, and he'd win. If he wants to step in and meet Hatton, he can outfight him and then get out. Pacquiao has never ever got involved in inside skirmishes because he's too good on his feet and too difficult to pin down. Hatton's chance...eliminated.

You need to be a good counterpuncher to beat this guy, and you need to have good activity with it or you risk being outworked. The same kinda fighter that has a chance of beating Calzaghe has a chance to beat Pacquiao.

[GazOC]

I would be amazed if somebody came up with a plausible explanation for Hatton.

I'd be amazed if anyone bothered to waste their time trying to convince the usual Hatton haters (some of whom are so biased that they picked Paulie to KO Hatton FFS) that he could beat Pac. The same people who were so keen to write off Hattons chin, stamina and workrate on the back of one fight (that he won clearly).

[TFFP]

I'd be amazed if anyone bothered to waste their time trying to convince the usual Hatton haters (some of whom are so biased that they picked Paulie to KO Hatton FFS) that he could beat Pac. The same people who were so keen to write off Hattons chin, stamina and workrate on the back of one fight (that he won clearly).
Some being one person, right? I remember one damn person predicting that.

Hatton's chin, stamina and work-rate are still up for critique as far as I can see. They looked bad in one fight and good in the next, one where he was tested less physically. Let's see how they look against this level of opponent.

[onourway]

Remember when that guy (JonOli?) had to used to go around convincing people that this wasn't a mismatch in Hatton's favour?

Now all of a sudden it's supposedly a mismatch in Pac's favour?

Morons.

[GazOC]

Some being one person, right? I remember one damn person predicting that.

Hatton's chin, stamina and work-rate are still up for critique as far as I can see. They looked bad in one fight and good in the next, one where he was tested less physically. Let's see how they look against this level of opponent.

I can name you two of the top of my head. Betty and Rob P, Healy was also predicting a wide UD and calling people "ignorant" for picking Hatton.

Pretty much ALL the Hatton haters jumped on the Lascano performance as proof that Hatton was shot which he clearly isn't. Time will tell if he can get back to his 2005/06 form against top fighters but all the "horribly shot" and "china chin" nonsense that was getting bandied about on the back of one fight was just wish fullfillment from some people.

[Beeston Brawler]

Rob was constantly saying that Paulie would stop Hatton, but he has done his fair share of trolling lately.....

I will give Betty the benefit of the doubt - he was most probably blinded by his hatred for Hatton, and couldn't make an objective prediction, never mind back it up.

TFFP is a pretty anti-Hatton poster, but to be fair picked the right man to win.

[GazOC]

TFFP is a pretty anti-Hatton poster, but to be fair picked the right man to win.

Thats my point, how could you pick the wrong man in that fight and claim to be objective? I'm not saying this out of hindsight but it really was a piss easy fight to call, I'd say people who picked Paulie were either anti-Hatton and/or had never seen Malinaggi fight and were just winging an opinion based on what they'd read on the GF.

[Beeston Brawler]

I always felt it was an easy fight to call, and said so throughout.

They were basing their opinion on the Cotto fight, ignoring that fact that Cotto was dead on the scales, and that N'Dou had caused Paulie problems in the rematch by applying pressure.

[TFFP]

I've never called Hatton shot. I rarely use that word, and if I do I'm careful about who I'm using it for and there is a difference between actually shot and past peak. Some things were questionable in that fight with Lazcano. When you get badly stung by a guy that is supposed to be an easy come back, and is not that highly regarded there is cause for concern. And yes, Hatton was very tired too, worse than I ever saw him.

To me its still up in the air. You can easily look at that last fight and say everythings fantastic again, and maybe it is. Maybe jogging with Cat Boots with lead attatched to the back of them up that big ass mountain helped him more than beating Graham's cushion. Who knows. What I do know is Malignaggi's punches don't take much out of you and Hatton had everything his own way. Unlike when he faced Tszyu, and it was a struggle, but he proved his chin and stamina.

Pacquiao would test him just the same, he sets a furious pace, he can punch and he's fighting at a high level. I think if he lasted the distance his chin and stamina would be proven once again.

[GazOC]

I've not singled you out anywhere in this, I'm saying the usual anti-Hatton posters in general were quick to jump on the Lascano performance as proof of stamina/ chin problems, even knowing that Hatton had a virus in the week leading into the fight.

[TFFP]

I just felt like giving my opinion on Hatton's chin and stamina regardless :smoke

I think its more the stamina. He was clearly moving like a character from the movie "Resident Evil" when he was hurt by Lazcano. I always felt like conditioning was key to his chin, its usually the case...but especially with Hatton.

He always takes too many, his tank has to be 100% full.

[Beeston Brawler]

A lot of people on the GF are too quick to call someone shot.

A guy like Erik Morales to me is/was shot, ditto Corrales and a few others.

Mosley, Tszyu and Forrest are past peak - Lennox Lewis was when he finished.

[Beeston Brawler]

I just felt like giving my opinion on Hatton's chin and stamina regardless :smoke

I think its more the stamina. He was clearly moving like a character from the movie "Resident Evil" when he was hurt by Lazcano. I always felt like conditioning was key to his chin, its usually the case...but especially with Hatton.

He always takes too many, his tank has to be 100% full.

Good post

[Infern0]

If Hatton came into this fight in prime condition, fought smartly and fought the best fight of his carrer, and Pac had an off day Ricky might scrape a win, but that wont happen, Ricky doesn't take his conditioning seriously, he's already gone fatton. It's disgraceful

[TFFP]

I think Graham Earl might be shot.

[GazOC]

...and Oscar...;O)

[TFFP]

Yeah, but I really think Earl is setting the benchmark here. If we think of this in top trumps terms he has gone from being like 4 or 5 in a few areas to 0 in every single one, and - 157 for chin.

Oscar still has a 6 for chin.

[Beeston Brawler]

Hatton isn't as bad as I expected actually.

Christmas may change that though..............

[trotter]

If Hatton came into this fight in prime condition, fought smartly and fought the best fight of his carrer, and Pac had an off day Ricky might scrape a win, but that wont happen, Ricky doesn't take his conditioning seriously, he's already gone fatton. It's disgraceful

You are DEFINITELY not going well over the top about last nights win for Pacquaio are you ?

[trotter]

I just felt like giving my opinion on Hatton's chin and stamina regardless :smoke

I think its more the stamina. He was clearly moving like a character from the movie "Resident Evil" when he was hurt by Lazcano. I always felt like conditioning was key to his chin, its usually the case...but especially with Hatton.

He always takes too many, his tank has to be 100% full.

He was shagged out against Lazcano, no doubt. I partially wrote him off after that I guess.

But I think there was a LOT of nervous energy flying about that night after the Floyd defeat. And Lazcano was a tough hombre.

Hatton looked fresher against Paulie to me, partially rejuvenated. That may be a bad analysis - but that's what I made of it.

[Infern0]

Hatton is not in manny's league, who has hatton fought?

Ok one good win against Kosta but since Floyd humiliated him he had a diodhy win against a shot journeyman in lazscano and a win over paulie who manny would have blasted in 3 rounds

[TFFP]

Hatton did look sharper offensively. Well...he just plain boxed better than he has for a long time so Mayweather is paying off.

I still don't think he actually got hit with any sort of hurtful punch that is going to tire you. I'd expect any world class guy to be able to box 12 rounds and look fresh if they have literally everything going there own way.

Like I said, 12 rounds with Pacquiao and his chin and stamina are vindicated. He'll need both of them to be working at the same time or he gets KO'd. I don't think you can have a great chin if you are tired, and I don't think you can be fresh if you are not durable enough to take punishment.

[trotter]

Hatton is not in manny's league, who has hatton fought?

Ok one good win against Kosta but since Floyd humiliated him he had a diodhy win against a shot journeyman in lazscano and a win over paulie who manny would have blasted in 3 rounds

You are putting FAR too much stock into one performance against a guy who hadn't made that weight in years

And a win against a sub-standard champ at 135

Pacquaio hasn't really scraped the surface of any division above 130 lbs for me

Oscar was still a decent fighter at 154 but he was dead at 147

[GazOC]

Hatton is not in manny's league, who has hatton fought?

Ok one good win against Kosta but since Floyd humiliated him he had a diodhy win against a shot journeyman in lazscano and a win over paulie who manny would have blasted in 3 rounds


Manny would have stopped PM in 3 rounds? Don't make me laugh.

[Bluenose]

Pac was great last night but Oscar lacked stamina, was weight drained and was a standard target unwilling to engage.

Lets see how Manny can handle being closed down and hit with a shot to the ribs by Hatton before saying he'll walk away with it.

Very existed about the prospect of these two meeting and Wembley would be the icing on the cake.

[Broxi]

I'd be most worried about how Hatton cuts and marks up with this fight. :!:

He'd have a hard time walking down Manny that's for sure but I think in hindsight, this would be a tougher fight for Manny. I'm never gonna doubt the Pacman again though.

Can't see this fight ever going down in the UK but imagine those two fan-sets going against each other in a stadium, the atmosphere would be epic. Hope I'm wrong there, I'll be first in line for a ticket.


P.S. I'm Scottish and I'm also a Ricky Hatton fan, during the Mayweather fight, I watched it with a house full of Scottish Hatton fans too.

[GazOC]

Hatton hasn't cut in years, since the bone filing operation he had.

[Infern0]

If this fight does happen it should be in the U.K.

What claim does america have to all the great fights?

Wembley is as capiable if not more so than MSG of putting on a good fight.

[trotter]

Arum said after the fight the Hatton matchup seems the logical next fight for Pacquiao

Something I've wondered - if Floyd chose to come back, who would be more lucrative for Manny? Floyd or Hatton?

Gotta be a tight one that hasn't it?

[JonOli]

Arum said after the fight the Hatton matchup seems the logical next fight for Pacquiao

Something I've wondered - if Floyd chose to come back, who would be more lucrative for Manny? Floyd or Hatton?

Gotta be a tight one that hasn't it?

Also, perhaps, who is more beatable for Manny; it has to be Hatton. A victory over Floyd would do more Legacy wise though, but it's unlikely pac would beat him.

[Infern0]

Hatton would be, as long as it was in the u.k, the gate alone at wembly would be huge, and ppv buys would go through the roof, 1.4 million at 4am for the floyd-hatton fight, more than double it if it's on in the evening uk time

[Beeston Brawler]

Hatton would most likely be a better payday.

Also, he wouldn't beat Floyd in 50 attempts!

[onourway]

Floyd would beat both of them comfortably.

I think he'd come out and attack too, he already knows he has Hatton's number. And I think his best bet with Pac is to hold the centre rather than sit on the ropes.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think he would attack Pac, but fight in a different sort of way against Hatton.

He probably over-estimated Ricky's power, but underestimated what he had up his jumper.

[JonOli]

Could I just add that Hatton at least deserves a slight nod for being so keen to get in the ring with Pac after his demolition of Oscar.

[Smazz20]

I'd say Hatton is delighted with the thought of facing Pacman instead of ODLH. They're probably in negotiations as we speak. Will Pacman travel to England or is this another LV "one for the fans" fights?

[Uppercut83]

Pacman could bust Hatton up in his own loving room with Matthew Hatton as the special guest referee, location doesn't matter, this fight won't even be competative, it will be so one sided people will complain the fight should never have been made, Pacquaio is faster, technically better and could even have more power than Hatton at 140, Hatton hasn't really hurt anyone for years apart from shot Castillo, who has since proven he was 100% shot.

Pacquaio is just a better fight in every single aspect, his speed and lightning fast combinations will make Hatton look almost a novice, will be more one sided than the PBF fight.

[GazOC]

"More power than Hatton at 140"? "Hatton hasn't really hurt anyone for years apart from shot Castillo"?

Nothing but blind hate and not even factually correct.

[Uppercut83]

You have no confidence in Hatton, if this fight happens i'll have you a lifetime ban on ESB bet on the fight, its so obvious Pac wins.

I await you worming out.

[GazOC]

You have no confidence in Hatton, if this fight happens i'll have you a lifetime ban on ESB bet on the fight, its so obvious Pac wins.

I await you worming out.

Why the hell would I have a life time ban bet? I enjoy posting here (more than you do going by the post count), even if I considered Hatton a sure thing I would n't bet my ESB membership.

You want to talk a proper money bet rather than an unenforcable and childish Internet forum membership bet then you're on. There are sites that will take money in escrow from 2 betters and pay the winner off. If Hatton is odds against when we make the bet I will want those odds rather than evens, I'm a Hatton fan but not a charity.

Its up to you.

[Uppercut83]

Why the hell would I have a life time ban bet? I enjoy posting here (more than you do going by the post count), even if I considered Hatton a sure thing I would n't bet my ESB membership.

You want to talk a proper money bet rather than an unenforcable and childish Internet forum membership bet then you're on. There are sites that will take money in escrow from 2 betters and pay the winner off. If Hatton is odds against when we make the bet I will want those odds rather than evens, I'm a Hatton fan but not a charity.

Its up to you.

You can take my bet on Betfair because i'll be lumping on the Pac :hey

[GazOC]

I can't. Betfair is anonymous, you don't know who you are betting against.

[sitiyzal]

The fans here are just fuckin dumb. Everytime a fighter has a big win, like clockwork the fans get overly excited to the point of losing all rational thought.

Hatton-Pacquiao won't even be competitive? Try thinking about what you're saying.

[Infern0]

Pac man would eat hatton!

Whats hatton done since being iced by pbf

almost got iced by lazcano and beat paulie "cant punch" malinaggi

now hes ready to take on the p4p #1 again lmfao

[GazOC]

Since PBF he's 2-0 (1), I'm sorry if this isn't good enough.

[Uppercut83]

The fans here are just fuckin dumb. Everytime a fighter has a big win, like clockwork the fans get overly excited to the point of losing all rational thought.

Hatton-Pacquiao won't even be competitive? Try thinking about what you're saying.

Mayweather vs Hatton wasn't competitive, he won a round and got totally smashed the rest of the fight.

[BoppaZoo]

This is my asessment of the fight.

Hatton would not stand a chance and ill give reasons why.

His camp know for fact that Hatton has alot of trouble finding his mark against Southpaws he takes more clean Power shots against Southpaws as weve witnessed in the Urango and Collazo fights.

Take that into account and Pacman is the best Southpaw in the game with Speed twice as fast as Collazo and with Power 3 times the amount of say Urango.

Pacman's footwork is sublime he hardly ever gets himself into trouble now and is in and out before his opponents known what has happened.

Bad Bad fight for Hatton style wise Pacman can box on par with PBF and the factor that he is a Southpaw makes Hatton's life hell.


Plus Hatton is not as good as he was say 2 years ago i think he is slower and takes rounds off here and there which against Pacman you couldnt do.

Sorry
Pacman TKO 7 Worse than ODH beatdown.

[fundador]

it ill be a good fight! but im quite sure manny can beat the guy! ODLH is way better tah hatton

[icemax]

This is without doubt a tight fight. I think people are reading way too much into Pacs last two fights. He beat the weakest LW title holder in David Diaz, and then outclassed a shop worn, leaden footed and weight drained ODLH. Manny is a superb athlete, but he is beatable.

[icemax]

I think Graham Earl might be shot.

Graham Earl is the definition of shot, unfortunately

[icemax]

Hatton is not in manny's league, who has hatton fought?

Ok one good win against Kosta but since Floyd humiliated him he had a diodhy win against a shot journeyman in lazscano and a win over paulie who manny would have blasted in 3 rounds

Lazcano is not shot for fucks sake :-(

[icemax]

....with Speed twice as fast as Collazo and with Power 3 times the amount of say Urango.


I got to this point and then realised you are not a sensible poster :good

[trotter]

The fans here are just fuckin dumb. Everytime a fighter has a big win, like clockwork the fans get overly excited to the point of losing all rational thought.

Hatton-Pacquiao won't even be competitive? Try thinking about what you're saying.

It's unreal

Pacquaio has had 50+ fights - but he has turned into King Kong overnight

[icemax]

It's unreal

Pacquaio has had 50+ fights - but he has turned into King Kong overnight

:yep

People tend to forget that it is only 9 months since he went life and death earning a very controversial SD over JMM at 130 FFS

[Words]

Clearly because at least the haters know boxing and dislike Hatton for his ugly style and dirty tactics, the majority of Hatton fans only like Hatton and not the sport, some of them didn't even know who Mayweather was before the fight, i'm sure some don't know who Pac is now.

It'll be "Hatton beat Paulie and he was the best so Pacquaio will get KTFO" :lol:

you're a fuckwit

[TFFP]

Pacquiao will beat Hatton's ass badly, and he has a good chance against Mayweather too. Its not more than 60/40 in Mayweather's favour at this stage.

[trotter]

Pacquiao will beat Hatton's ass badly, and he has a good chance against Mayweather too. Its not more than 60/40 in Mayweather's favour at this stage.

As someone who clearly has a bit of knowledge I think you are over-reacting to the weekends events (or on a wind up as per)

Did you think he would beat Hatton and maybe Floyd before Saturday? Or has Pacman's performance substantially changed your opinion of his ability at higher weights?

[TFFP]

No.

I picked Pacquiao to beat Hatton before this fight. I picked him to beat De La Hoya too, unlike many numpties.

I think he was a good chance against Mayweather, I'm not saying he'll win it for certain but there are scenarios whereby I see him winning a decision.

[DON1]

This isn't a 50/50 fight. Pacman is far too quick and accurate for Hatton, he would cut Hattons face to shreds.

[steelem]

pacman was pure brilliance - certainly suprised me

[GazOC]

This is without doubt a tight fight. I think people are reading way too much into Pacs last two fights. He beat the weakest LW title holder in David Diaz, and then outclassed a shop worn, leaden footed and weight drained ODLH. Manny is a superb athlete, but he is beatable.

Correct.:good

[widdy]

so he beats DLH,and now he is one of the hardest punches and best p4p boxer in the world,pacman wasent even hit with one power shot.
get of the bandwaggon will all you hatton haters,if you all think hatton will be a sitting target like DLH,you know fuck alL.DLH stopped the fight so he wouldent get hurt,ie brain damage,the doc asked him if he had a headache for fucks sake,they wernt picking him up off the floor after a bad knockout.pacman aint no knockout artist at welter or lightwelter,he will struggle with hattons strengh and power,its defo 50/50

[Permy]

This would be hilarious, a total missmatch, Hatton wouldn't win a round and would be beaten beyond belief, it'll be worse than the PBF fight.


WTF..:shock:

More like the other way around ... COME ON RIIIIIKY HATTON !!

[9Ball]

I would love to see this fight, If Hatton were to improve further under Mayweather he could give Pac problems. I am not sure he would win, I would say 60/40 in Pac's favour. But I reckon it would be a great fight.
:good

[InJinChi2]

Don't go overboard with the DLH win?

Okay, I guess Ricky Hatton beating a career 135 in Juan Lazcano was way more impressive, esp when Ricky was out on queer street at the end of the fight against a guy who was not known as a great puncher at 135 let alone 140. Yeah that is way better.

Oh maybe his hellacious beating of Paulie? In which Paulie "I can't break an egg with my hand cause my right hand would break first" Malignaggi was standing there clear eyed as day. Yeah, that was way more brutal.

Is Hatton bigger? Really? Hatton and Pac are the same height, Pac has a longer reach! Pac regularly walked into the ring at 146-147 even when he fought at 130-135. So how is Hatton so much bigger? I mean besides Hattons walk around weight in which he balloons up to Marlon Brando/Chris Farley size.

Is Hatton a bigger puncher? Who has he knocked out in last 3 years besides JLC, and if you want to talk about someone being shot talk about JLC who survived against two nobodies before fighting Hatton, now there is a guy who was shot.
Paulie wasn't f'd up.
Urango acted like he had flies around him the whole night rather than Hatton punching him.
Callazo was the one who was doing the damage in their fight.
And Lazcano did more damage to hatton than the other way around, and Lazcano is "smaller" guy. Hmmmm...

So Hatton is the same height, he hasn't knocked anyone out (I mean f'ed them up) within the last 3 years besides just as shot if not more shot than this version of DLH, JLC. And Hatton has been hurt numerous times in recent fight even getting KTFO. Why is Hatton favored again? I mean besides having pride in your countrymen and rooting for that person to win. Cause that is understandable, but stated as such.

Hatton is gonna bum rush Pac and Pac is just gonna stand there? Cause you know Pac's feet are so slow, he never step to the side and he waits there for his opponents to set their feet so that they can tee off on him, that led footed Pacquiao. Besides stepping to the side and counter punching Hatton's rush has never worked, ask Floyd.

Seriously, all the pro hatton qualification for an advantage is actually for someone like Margarito, not Hatton. Hatton is not bigger than Pac, not stronger than Pac, def not faster than pac, Hatton chin has been dented many times, and Pac has shown to be way better puncher than Hatton.

I say just state, Hatton is from UK, I live or am from UK so I am rooting and hoping he wins. Cause that is actually logical.

[trotter]

Don't go overboard with the DLH win?

Okay, I guess Ricky Hatton beating a career 135 in Juan Lazcano was way more impressive, esp when Ricky was out on queer street at the end of the fight against a guy who was not known as a great puncher at 135 let alone 140. Yeah that is way better.



Lazcano had been at 140 for years mate.

And had anybody said it was 'more impressive' than Manny against Oscar?

You just invented that whole argument and then went on a rant about it - you crazy fool.

[InJinChi2]

Lazcano had been at 140 for years mate.

And had anybody said it was 'more impressive' than Manny against Oscar?

You just invented that whole argument and then went on a rant about it - you crazy fool.

When a man spends 11 of his 13 years at a certain weight then he is a career is at defined at that weight. That's what Juan is.

Did you read the very first sentence? The point was what did Hatton do recently to make him the favorite against Pac cause Hatton supporters seems to be saying DLH win has caused undeserving Pacman fever. Notice I started off with "Don't overboard with DLH win?" Juan fight was brought up to provide an argument that even if DLH was shot, what Pac did was way more impressive than anything Hatton has done since Kosta fight.

Hatton supporters are saying Pac beat a washed up DLH and Hatton would be a different matchup. Okay well I am telling you what Hatton has done recently and why he won't provide any difficulty for the Pacman cause while DLH migh not be in his prime, Hatton donesn't seem to be in his either. Comprende?

[SleazeNation]

Not only has Hatton never lost at 140, he's never came close to losing there.

To suggest Pacquiao, a "career" flyweight-super featherweight, will beat him with ease is nonsense.

It would be a good fight. I'd pick Hatton.

[TFFP]

What a surprise! :nut

[SleazeNation]

If you think Pacquaio would beat Hatton easily. And you only give Mayweather a 60/40 edge over him.

If Hatton beats Pacquaio, does that make him the best fighter in the sport?

[TFFP]

Hatton ain't beating Pacquiao, your argument is redundant.

[GazOC]

TFFP has spoken, please close the thread and end all discussion on this fight.

[TFFP]

Yes.

Statistically speaking, I am likely to be correct.

[onourway]

If you think Pacquaio would beat Hatton easily. And you only give Mayweather a 60/40 edge over him.

If Hatton beats Pacquaio, does that make him the best fighter in the sport?

Hatton's P4P#1 if he wins depending on the manner of the win.

Marquez is #3 based on two close fights with Pac, so obviously a win for Hatton over Pac elevates him over Marquez.

Calzaghe is #2 and he picks on old men and shot fighters, so Hatton goes above him.

If Hatton can beat Pac comprehensively, I'd put him #1, if it's close, then Pac keeps it for the time being.

[TFFP]

Hatton's entire resume is built on an old man and a shot fighter. Careful.

[onourway]

Hatton dominated his old man and KO'd the shot fighter.

Calzaghe went life and death with the old man and nearly got KO'd by the shot fighter.

[TFFP]

Nearly KO'd :lol:

You mean he got hit by a forearm and surprisingly it hurt a bit? Was he closer to getting knocked out than Hatton against lazcano before the critical shoe lace break?

Calzaghe's old man is better than Tszyu, always has been and always will be. Hatton's retired straight after, he was done, Calzaghe's kicked the ass of another p4p fighter.

[finzwinz]

This is without doubt a tight fight. I think people are reading way too much into Pacs last two fights. He beat the weakest LW title holder in David Diaz, and then outclassed a shop worn, leaden footed and weight drained ODLH. Manny is a superb athlete, but he is beatable.
Well.......Calzaghe has been reaping the applauds for it, so why the hell not!

[onourway]

Nearly KO'd :lol:

You mean he got hit by a forearm and surprisingly it hurt a bit? Was he closer to getting knocked out than Hatton against lazcano before the critical shoe lace break?

Calzaghe's old man is better than Tszyu, always has been and always will be. Hatton's retired straight after, he was done, Calzaghe's kicked the ass of another p4p fighter.

Hatton never went down and wasn't going to go down.

Calzaghe got decked, hard.

[TFFP]

unfortunately we'll never know that, because Hatton got his usual treatment from the refs in England. I guess we'll have to take your word, because Hatton was stumbling around like a drunk trying to hold on. Close to his usual style I know.

Calzaghe gets hit illegally...without the protection of a glove and it hurts...wow that must really count against him

You'll learn the difference between a left hook and a getting smacked across the face with an arm one day.

:yep

[onourway]

And hopefully one day Calzaghe will learn the difference between a left hook and an open palmed bitch slap

:yep

[TFFP]

And then we might also get the pleasure of seeing Hatton not clinch like Ruiz's little son. That really will be a red letter day.

[GazOC]

unfortunately we'll never know that, because Hatton got his usual treatment from the refs in England. I guess we'll have to take your word, because Hatton was stumbling around like a drunk trying to hold on. Close to his usual style I know.




You're slipping into that "tabloid headline" style of posting again.

[TFFP]

Not really. I just told you a few simple facts. Hatton got hurt, was trying to clinch and then we get a ref stoppage. Surprise!

Or it would have been a suprise, if we hadn't seen similar antics against Tszyu.

[icemax]

Well.......Calzaghe has been reaping the applauds for it, so why the hell not!

Don't get me wrong, I would never defend Calzaghe for his "legend" killer exploits.

[GazOC]

Not really. I just told you a few simple facts. Hatton got hurt, was trying to clinch and then we get a ref stoppage. Surprise!

Or it would have been a suprise, if we hadn't seen similar antics against Tszyu.

Nonsense, Hatton got staggered and thats all in the Lascano fight. It was a legit break for the laces that in any case didn't alter the result of the fight.

The Zoo fight was a tough fight from both sides, maybe it got a bit rough for some of the more delicate types around here but you didn't hear Zoo complain afterwards.

You're giving those fights the same treatment that the Hopkins-Calzaghe decision is getting off internet posters. Its trying to re-write history because you have an axe to grind and points to try and make.

[mattress]

Gaz, you're wasting your breath mate. Don't rise to the fuckers.