Ring Editor Believes Pacquiao Can Be Pound For Pound No. 1

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RING EDITOR BELIEVES PACQUIAO CAN BE POUND FOR POUND NO. 1

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The respected editor of Ring Magazine, regarded as the “Bible” of boxing believes that Filipino ring idol Manny Pacquiao “may very well become number one” in the Ring pound-for-pound rankings “if he looks good in his next fight.”

Collins told Viva Sports/Manila Standard Today that it was “impossible to demote Floyd Mayweather Jr immediately after he beat Oscar De La Hoya in the richest fight in boxing history.”

Pacquiao who was rated No. 3 behind Mayweather and Winky Wright but was elevated to No. 2 after what Collins termed "the blast out of (Erik) Morales" in the third fight of a classic trilogy. After naming Pacquiao Ring Magazine's "Fighter of the Year" Collins in his Ringside column wrote that although Mayweather and Pacquiao are unquestionably two of the sports finest practitioners "when it comes to providing entertainment 'Pac-Man' is so far ahead of ' Pretty Boy' they are not even in the same league."

Collins said that if the negotiations between Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank whose lawyers have been meeting in an effort to work out their difficulties prior to what could be a lengthy and costly court battle are successful, it could lead to a showdown between Pacquiao and reigning WBC super featherweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez “which would crown a new Ring Magazine champion.” Marquez and Pacquiao are ranked No.1 and 2 by Ring.

Collins also noted that “unlike in the Philippines, Manny’s political adventure has not detracted from his popularity in the United States.” The Ring Magazine editor-in-chief said fight fans know that they are “virtually guaranteed an exciting fight every time Manny steps into the ring and eagerly await his next fight, regardless of the opponent.”

At the same time Collins said that a fight between Pacquiao and Mexican Humberto Soto who recently stopped Pacquiao’s younger brother Bobby Pacquiao “would be well received here.”

Collins pointed out that “sometimes Filipinos get too caught up in the periphery events surrounding Pacquiao and forget what he does once the bell rings.”

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[jonesjrp4p1]

i dont think he deserves and will be ahead of mayweather

[knockout]

well can be if mayweahter retires like he says and he has to fight top contenders and maybe a get a legit title like the 1 Marquez and Guzman has.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Pacquiao is my P4P no1 fighter. It used to be Mayweather, but he stunk the joint out against DLH, who was there for the taking.

Pac has beaten the lot, & in style. Hes a fight fans dream, & thats why hes my undisputed P4P no1.

The Ring magazine is pretty shit nowadays, but I agree with that article.

[psychopath]

The respected editor of Ring Magazine, regarded as the “Bible” of boxing believes that Filipino ring idol Manny Pacquiao “may very well become number one” in the Ring pound-for-pound rankings “if he looks good in his next fight.”


If he looks good in his next fight? :yikes Who the fuck is Sotto? Of course he can be number #1 . . . that is if he beats Marquez and/or Guzman who are both title holders.

Since when did anybody become number 1 P4P for fighting a contender? :huh

Stuuuuuuuuuuupid! :yep

[brooklyn1550]

If Floyd Mayweather retires for good, I think Manny Pacquiao deserves the top spot. But as long as there are questions as to whether or not he is actually retired, he deserves the top spot (6 titles from 130-154 while remaining undefeated speaks for itself). And also, people shouldn't forget about the winner of Hopkins/Wright or even Rafael Marquez.

[kg0208]

Pacman surely has a shot at p4p #1. It always depends on how the top 4 or 5 do and against whom.

Pac's main competition is Wright. If Wright beats Hopkins and does it cleanly, he may be impossible to overtake for a bit.

[HandsOfGold]

If he's not your #1 then he should definitely be your #2.

[psychopath]

Pacman surely has a shot at p4p #1. It always depends on how the top 4 or 5 do and against whom.

Pac's main competition is Wright. If Wright beats Hopkins and does it cleanly, he may be impossible to overtake for a bit.

Rightnow Winky is number 3 behind Pacquiao . . . but if he beats Bhops irregardless how controversial it maybe . . . Winky goes up over Pacquaio. :yep

Point of refference here is Bhops and Soto. :D

[kg0208]

Rightnow Winky is number 3 behind Pacquiao . . . but if he beats Bhops irregardless how controversial it maybe . . . Winky goes up over Pacquaio. :yep

Point of refference here is Bhops and Soto. :D

I actually flip flop them back and forth a bit. Wright has beaten better fighters IMO than Pacman has. Pacman has been more dominant. Wright also beat guys naturally smaller than him.....but Hopkins won't be.

[psychopath]

I actually flip flop them back and forth a bit. Wright has beaten better fighters IMO than Pacman has. Pacman has been more dominant. Wright also beat guys naturally smaller than him.....but Hopkins won't be.

That's right :D that's why I said if Wright beats Bhops there's no way he wouldn't go up in his position in that list now.

[DanePugilist]

Pacman is definately no. 1 in my book, and has for a while. Winky no 2 and PBF has moved up to 3rd spot after the ODLH fight(I had him no 5-7).

[4Rounder]

If Winky beats BHOP there will be a new #1 for sure, and its not the Filipino.

[kg0208]

What? I was just in the thread where Winky beat past primes smaller men. Now his competition was better than PAC? Pac moved up to beat some of these fighters and although Erik was past his prime, MAB wasnt.

MAB was past his prime. Too many posters here equate past his prime to mean shot. No, MAB was not prime...he wasn't prime when he beat Hamed either. MAB has been fighting for nearly 2 decades. Morales 2x and MAB are not better than Mosley 2x and Trinidad. Along with of course Quartey and his draw with Taylor. Rememeber, Wright also hasn't lost in years.....Pacman has.

[thunder06]

pacquiao is number 1 imo.

[thesandman]

If he looks good in his next fight? :yikes Who the fuck is Sotto? Of course he can be number #1 . . . that is if he beats Marquez and/or Guzman who are both title holders.

Since when did anybody become number 1 P4P for fighting a contender? :huh

Stuuuuuuuuuuupid! :yep

Floyd has.

[David B]

Manny is already the number 1.
Floyd has retired,these are floyd's words.
You cannot give the number 1 spot to a

[David B]

fighter who is retired.

[theunderdog]

if pbf is really retired, then pac's deserves number 1. i think winky has a shot at in if he does something against hop

[kg0208]

Thats a weak argument especially from you, Mosley and Tito were past their primes plus much much smaller. Erik 3 times Mab once, Jmm once much better and they are all the same weight. Did you see the Quartey fight? See the size difference, first thing youd think was this isnt fair.

Please....don't change what actually was there.

Trinidad was slightly smaller. Mosley was smaller than Wright. Quartey was not at this point in his career. And Taylor was BIGGER. Wright never lost a fight in there. Mosley wasn't past it, just in the wrong weight class (so not prime). Trinidad was past his prime in the same way that MAB was. Either way, he is going to be considered better than MAB in an all time sense. The Taylor draw is equal to the JMM draw. The thing is, Wright never lost. Otherwise they are equal. Pacman fought a very bad version of Morales. And face it, fighting Quartey as a filler fight was better than anyone Pacman fights as filler.

[psychopath]

Floyd has.

Stupid one liner :lol: . . . I'm not exactly a PBF fan dude, but PBF is an undefeated 5 divisional champ that's why he is the #1 P4P. Did he became a five divisional champ for fighting contenders?

Can you explain that logically? :think

[Lacyace]

I agree. If Floyd's retired and Winky beats Hopkins, Winky should definitely leapfrog Pac and take number one.

[Confederate]

I agree. If Floyd's retired and Winky beats Hopkins, Winky should definitely leapfrog Pac and take number one.

What if Winky beats Hopkins and Pac beats Soto? How would the p4p ranking go then?

[DobyZhee]

Here's the most logical and possible scenario..

Wright 'outboxes' Hopkins and earns a decision over an old BHOP. It is quite possible that Pacquiao smashes a young Soto and KO's him for another win.

So Wright will credit for outboxing a 40 year old boxer and earn P4P while Pacquiao does even more to win with a KO victory over an "IN HIS PRIME" Soto but doesn't earn #1 P4P because MP is not as technically skilled as Winky...

[jyuza]

Of course he can be P4P number.

If he can beat Marquez and Barrera, I will give him the higher spot.

[Confederate]

So Wright will credit for outboxing a 40 year old boxer and earn P4P while Pacquiao does even more to win with a KO victory over an "IN HIS PRIME" Soto but doesn't earn #1 P4P because MP is not as technically skilled as Winky...

Now thats not fair ain't it? Beating an old fighter by UD earns Wright p4p number 1, while MP gets nothing if he KO's a fighter in his prime?

[K0NPHL1C7]

As long as Mayweather is active, he is number 1, and if Ring mag, decides to challenge that, we it wouldn't be the worst decision they ever made but certianly not the best. Anyone who knows anything about the sport can clearly see that Mayweater is P4P the best boxer alive right now, no question.

[1punch1nder]

Stupid one liner :lol: . . . I'm not exactly a PBF fan dude, but PBF is an undefeated 5 divisional champ that's why he is the #1 P4P. Did he became a five divisional champ for fighting contenders?

Can you explain that logically? :think
that was 5 years ago, his recent fights aren't that impressive.

[hooligan]

I agree. If Floyd's retired and Winky beats Hopkins, Winky should definitely leapfrog Pac and take number one.

so if hops beats winky...hops is no. 1??? :patsch

[Ramshall1]

Fraud is retired, he should no longer be ranked at all.

[Bangis]

if pac defeat soto, jmm, guzman and valero... he will be p4p no 1...

[knockout]

No shit:patsch

[psychopath]

Fraud is retired, he should no longer be ranked at all.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn I like that. :yep

Why don't the governing bodies including Ring exclude this guy from their ratings, anyway he already declared his retirement. :hey

[Pimp C]

Not so fast my friend, if Winky dominates Hopkins he deserves too be P4P #1 before Manny does.:deal

[pejevan]

If he looks good in his next fight? :yikes Who the fuck is Sotto? Of course he can be number #1 . . . that is if he beats Marquez and/or Guzman who are both title holders.

Since when did anybody become number 1 P4P for fighting a contender? :huh

Stuuuuuuuuuuupid! :yep

And why would he become no. 1 when he beat Guzman.Who did Guzman beat that deserves such lofty status? WBO title is just garbage.

[pejevan]

The biggest factor in determining PFP status should be the "what have you done lately" factor- opponents and performances within the last couple of years-therefore, it's hard to make a point for Pac being at the top of the pfp list.

This is the very same reason I thought PBF did not belong at the PFP apex (his competition over the last 5 years did NOT warrant that, IMO.)

Who do you think should be at the apex of the P4P then? I do not think there is one fighter who had fought all the toughest oppositions possible out there and winning it convincingly.

[psychopath]

And why would he become no. 1 when he beat Guzman.Who did Guzman beat that deserves such lofty status? WBO title is just garbage.

WBO is just garbage :lol: :lol: :lol: . . . that's just according to you. :yep

But you see dude . . . garbage or not, it counts. . . no matter how you deny it or how you hate it . . . Guzman will go down in the boxing history book as a world title holder and that's what matter . . . not your lame opinion . . . so you have to live by it. :yep

Soto is a contender, Guzman is a title holder . . . that's the difference. :deal

[pejevan]

WBO is just garbage :lol: :lol: :lol: . . . that's just according to you. :yep

But you see dude . . . garbage or not, it counts. . . no matter how you deny it or how you hate it . . . Guzman will go down in the boxing history book as a world title holder and that's what matter . . . not your lame opinion . . . so you have to live by it. :yep

Soto is a contender, Guzman is a title holder . . . that's the difference. :deal

Why dont we include the IBO, and all the other alphabet boxing bodies mushrooming every once in a while. All of them I am sure have belt holders. In terms of opposition, For a contender, soto fought more credible opponents by lightyears in terms of comparison. How about davis for a title defense? He could not even qualify as a sparring partner. If you look closely at Guzman's record, since he won the WBO title, how many times did he defend his title (Average of less than 2 per year).? And against who? Not one of his ooponents is worth mentioning. Oh I forgot Barrios!!!!!!Dada!! His last fight was in January. And when will he fight again? Next year when he is 33 years old and Pacquaio hopefully considers him? Forget about Katsidis. It was just a hype job to make him appear busy doing something. At the onset, I smelled something fishy with that bout and predicted it not pushing through. A powder fisted fighter challenging a real 135 pounder?

Guzman is a title holder no doubt. But if MP defeats him, it would not make him number1. It only proved how hyped Guzman really is. Afterall, titles are dime a dozen nowadays and should be taken in the context of the quality of opposition, the domination factor, etc. The record of the fighter should speakfor itself. Because if MP becomes number1 by virtue of defeating Guzman, then I think it is time for me to quit reading this forum.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion however lame you think it is. As to whether you agree with it, it is up to you. Afterall, that is the purpose of a forum. If you appreciate a fighter, that by itself is an opinion. If you remain neutral or do not favor anyone, it is still an opinion. And if I see Guzman as a hype job until he fights someone credible, that is my opinion.

[el mosquito]

I believe Manny could become number one in the future by beating Marquez in split decision, goes up to give David diaz a beating, then DLH at welterweight, Ricky Hatton by KO in 2 rounds, and miguel Cotto, taking away his welterweight belt by TKO. He will also do all this feat and become champ in seven division. He will become undisputed p4p number one and nt even Mayweather could do anything about it. I know i'm a pactard and you'd say i don't know boxing, but all this will happen in the future, i'll have a lifetime bet with anyone that disagrees lol.

[Farmboxer]

Can Pac get Void into a ring?

[hellblazer]

wow, this is old :P

[onin_5]

come on mosquito, pac is a one dimensional fighter... hatton will maul pacs body, pac was KOd with a body shot...

[Top Dog]

No shit Sherlock, of course he can/is