See what I mean about Clottey now guys?

[Amsterdam]

This guy fights only in spurts, has trouble with movers, is not an iron man, has hand problems and on top of it, does not hit hard and has stamina issue's.

Everyone scoffed at me when I said Judah and Cotto KO him in 5 or less, but let's take a look at how he cannot KO this guy tonight, a guy who had been stopped by Chop Chop at 140.

Thankyou very much.:yep

[King Dan]

I believe styles make fights and it would be a tough contest for Cotto for 6 rounds.

Cotto might even get dropped within the first 3 frames.

But gradually, Cotto would beat Clottey up and win a UD.

[Amsterdam]

I believe styles make fights and it would be a tough contest for Cotto for 6 rounds.

Cotto might even get dropped within the first 3 frames.

But gradually, Cotto would beat Clottey up and win a UD.

1 punch KO hitter Zab can't drop Cotto and now the light hitting Clottey can?:lol:

Cotto stops this guy in 5 or less.

[C Money]

I've never understood the attention Clottey has recieved. When he got broke down by Margarito that cemented how I already felt, that he isnt an ELITE level fighter. The guy is decent but does not have the intangibles to challenge top fighters.

[Amsterdam]

I've never understood the attention Clottey has recieved. When he got broke down by Margarito that cemented how I already felt, that he isnt an ELITE level fighter. The guy is decent but does not have the intangibles to challenge top fighters.

:good

Always on target to the situation C Money.

[paulfv]

Clottey KO/TKO Judah between 8-12, IMO.

Clottey couldn't KO Corrales, for goodness' sakes, so it's not like I'm overwhelmed with JC's power. It's that he's big, rugged, and even more so that Zab is mentally weak and a frontrunner. Once he gets tired and a little sloppy, Judah is susceptible to being KD/KO'd by seemingly anyone, as Cory Spinks demonstrated.

My opinion in these matters has less to do with Clottey and more to do with Zab's penchant for choking and quitting.

[C Money]

:good

Always on target to the situation C Money.

Thanks, you pick quite well yourself, Amsterdam:good There are time's when I let my heart/desire override my better judgement.

Clottey could use more heart and desire and if he stood in front of Cotto with that high guard?? There's liitle doubt in my mind, that Cotto ends it on a body shot. At 47 Cotto's chin and strength seem much better, indicating that he was too drained at 40.

[Tko4]

Cotto would take Clottey's ribs out and suck all the meat off his bones. Clottey's fun to watch, but he doesn't have the power to keep Cotto off him. He had trouble with a very game Flores on the inside tonight, and Cotto is a much more vicious body attacker. Clotty deserves his top 10 ranking, no doubt. But I don't think he's going to be cracking the top 5.

[huki]

I agree 100%. Most people's respect and high regard for Clottey comes from him giving a good effort against a B- fighter at best in Margarito and beating Corrales who jumped up two weight classes late in his career. After the Corrales fight, some people here started including Clottey as an elite at 147 and after a month or two it somehow started becoming cool to say that Clottey is a top welterweight. Floyd, Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Cintron, and Judah would all own him and make him look horrible in my opinion.

[TitoCotto]

Not too impressed by Clottey although Flores looked much better than I thought he would. Clottey doesn't deserve to be put in the same sentence as Cotto put I would love to see him get in the ring with Judah. Zab earned some respect against Cotto and it would be a good comeback fight for him. Come to think of it put Paul Williams/Clottey together and Margarito/Judah... both of those would be good fights and then after Williams takes out Clottey he can fight the winner of a very close Judah/Margarito battle

[HandsOfGold]

Clottey starts well but he can't fight for the entire 3 minutes and gets tired in the later rounds.

Clottey is not a future Champ IMO.

[Toopretty]

What channel was the fight on. Did clottey whoop his ass?

[DaHead242]

What channel was the fight on. Did clottey whoop his ass?

he won 8-2 on my card

[C Money]

What channel was the fight on. Did clottey whoop his ass?

the VS Channel.

Clottey won a UD and didnt really look impressive. I suppose if you're a die-hard Clottey fan you'll see what you'd like to see, but this cat isnt beating the top WW's.

Though to his credit he said he wants the top guy's any and aLL.

[Amsterdam]

the VS Channel.

Clottey won a UD and didnt really look impressive. I suppose if you're a die-hard Clottey fan you'll see what you'd like to see, but this cat isnt beating the top WW's.

Though to his credit he said he wants the top guy's any and aLL.

What's he got to lose? He has injury related issue's, is already 30 and any top guy presents good paying oppurtunities.

[teetop]

:lol: I've never understood the attention Clottey has recieved. When he got broke down by Margarito that cemented how I already felt, that he isnt an ELITE level fighter. The guy is decent but does not have the intangibles to challenge top fighters.

He hasn't challenged a top level fighter, he challenged Zab. :lol:

[brooklyn1550]

He's a world class fighter, but far from perfect. He does fight in spurts, holds his hands high and stays stationary, and isn't a real big puncher.

[C Money]

What's he got to lose? He has injury related issue's, is already 30 and any top guy presents good paying oppurtunities.

He has to capitalize while he can no doubt. Yet some would try to pick a matchup, he said he wants "To be the best, so i have to fight the best". If there's a silver lining, imo?? That was it:good

IMO, Clottey makes a viable opponent for a guy like Cintron or Willams, though I dont see him winning.

[Amsterdam]

He has to capitalize while he can no doubt. Yet some would try to pick a matchup, he said he wants "To be the best, so i have to fight the best". If there's a silver lining, imo?? That was it:good

IMO, Clottey makes a viable opponent for a guy like Cintron or Willams, though I dont see him winning.

Williams will win a shutout UD and Cintron will spark him early. Clottey appears to hit very hard due to his handspeed and his physical stature, but he's an extremely mediocre puncher and cannot crack Cintron or Williams in the slightest.

Cintron will pop that right hand down the guard and end it.

[C Money]

Williams will win a shutout UD and Cintron will spark him early. Clottey appears to hit very hard due to his handspeed and his physical stature, but he's an extremely mediocre puncher and cannot crack Cintron or Williams in the slightest.

Cintron will pop that right hand down the guard and end it.


Total agreement:good

IMO, it's an acceptable matchup for one or the other while waiting on the BIGGER FISH, PBF vs Hatton and SSM vs Cotto. According to clottey?/ He'd take it.

The more I think about it, I'd like Cintron vs Clottey and Judah vs Margarito to happen and winners get winners. If Marg somehow beat Judah, Cintron could the erase the stain of the Marg loss. Oh well, i'm getting way ahead with it I guess:lol:

[Amsterdam]

Total agreement:good

IMO, it's an acceptable matchup for one or the other while waiting on the BIGGER FISH, PBF vs Hatton and SSM vs Cotto. According to clottey?/ He'd take it.

The more I think about it, I'd like Cintron vs Clottey and Judah vs Margarito to happen and winners get winners. If Marg somehow beat Judah, Cintron could the erase the stain of the Marg loss. Oh well, i'm getting way ahead with it I guess:lol:

If Cotto didn't beat out what's left of Judah, then I feel he KO's Margarito, who was buzzed by both Clottey significantly and at times by Williams, the speed difference being enough to set that up.

Cintron will KO Clottey if that bout happens, Judah/Cintron is intriguing. Judah has 5 losses, but it's a shame that people totally write him off when he has certain stylistic advantages over guys they overrate. Judah won't be a champion again, but he's still a top 10 fighter and can still beat quite a few WW's.

[carras]

I've always said that Clottey is too stationary and sloppy for cotto, and any other of the top dogs in the division right now.
He is good, but not THAT good

[Zakman]

Clottey's an ordinary contender, nothing more. I was never particularly impressed with him to begin with, so it's not like I'm surprised by the fact that he didn't look so great against this guy. It's about what I would have expected.

[compukiller]

Clottey's an ordinary contender, nothing more. I was never particularly impressed with him to begin with, so it's not like I'm surprised by the fact that he didn't look so great against this guy. It's about what I would have expected.


I think he can get one of the belts at 147 or 154.

[compukiller]

After tonight's fight you could easily see how he would have problems with a guy like Cotto. Here Clottey had a guy infront of himwho really brought the fight to him and he got caught with a lot more punches than I've ever seen him take. Not only that we also saw how open Clottey is to the body which would be a very very bad mistake to make against Cotto.

The guy also likes to fight in spots because his stamina doesn't seem to be all it's cracked up to be, and if you bring too much pressure at him he tends to tire and stop throwing at his oppoennt as much as he does in the earlier stages of the fight.

Miguel's left uppercut and left hook to the body would be especially effective against Joshua who leaves many openings down the middle and to the body. I don't know if Miguel Cotto would be able to knock him out but judging from what i saw tonight, I'm prety sure Clottey would be beaten and prety badly busted up by the end of the fight.

He really needs to go to 154. He generally weighs 170 on fight night at 147.

[Gsand]

clottey is good imo

he wouldve beaten margo or at least run him very very close if he hadnt broken his hand. the first 5 rounds were more or less a clean sweep for him and he was unlucky

he battered corrales, the only reason corrales didnt go sooner was pure heart

he is very speedy and has decent power and ok heart. i think he represents a fairly big challenge for cotto because of his speed and i think he would beat zab based on attitude and the ability to just stalk him down over the rounds as zab loses interest

mosley is more or less the same but better though so if cotto takes mosely he takes clottey

[Carlos Primera]

not surprising in at the least. the guy's always been a b level fighter. just got hyped up, for giving the hype job margo trouble. gets taken out quickly by any elite WW.

[Morrissey]

who did CLottey fight here? Anyone?

NO idea, sorry.

[Grabonator]

Clottey is a good fighter. Good but not worldclass which means he would not win against Cotto or Mayweather or Mosley or Margarito or Williams or or or....

[Jinx]

Clottey won't the distance with Cotto...Flores' got the better of Clottey in many exchanges on the inside and Clottey slaps with his left hook alot...i'm pretty sure Judah would destroy Clottey too...