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compukiller
06-21-2007, 09:13 PM
Yes, that's right. I think Castillo will stop Hatton this weekend, and in impressive fashion.

Now, I am no Hatton Hater. I feel he is overrated, but he has undeniable effectiveness, and as far as personality, he seems like a great guy. He can have a few pints at my local bar anytime. :good

But I feel Castillo is just a step above. Castillo can do many things in the ring. He can box, he can slug, he's a superb body puncher, and he can counter like no tomorrow. He also gets stronger as a fight goes on, and his condtioning is great. His level of comp so far has been impeccable, and although he has more than a few losses, it is against the best that he always shine.

People are saying Castillo is past it, but I don't see that. He didn't look great against Ngodou, but that guy is very hard to look good against, and he would have given Hatton trouble as well. He was coming of a layoff, and he did win the fight. He level of comp thus far has dwarfed Hatton's, who only has one great fighter on his resume, although Tszyu is one hell of a name to have. Castillo on the other hand has fought Stevie Johnston twice, Lazcano, Chico twice, Casamayor, Julio Diaz (who is now a top ranked contender), and Cesar bazan. He also arguably beat PBF the first time (I thought he edged it), and no matter who you thought won, Castillo put his foot in PBF's ass and showed him what it was like to have to dig down deep.

I think that some of those names (Casa, J Diaz, PBF and Chico) would seriously outbox Hatton if not outright stop him. Hatton has one thing going for him, which is handspeed. Outside of that, he has absolutely no defense, and can be hit with any punch at any time. His foot work isn't all that either, and he seems to lack some basic skills (havent really seen a jab from him). He has struggled in his last few starts, especially against Collazo, who nearly had Hatton out in the 12th.

I think he is open for Castillo's attacks all day, and Castillo will have no probelms finding him. He is the taller, longer fighter and has actually fought at welter in the past (winning those fights before going back to 135). I think this, Castillo's body attack, and counter punching ability will tell the tale in the end.

Hatton's only chance IMO is to constantly swarm him, but that still leaves him open for Castillo's shots. And if Hatton really doesn't like it downstairs, he is in for a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG night.

Feel free to disagree, but I fell the odds are heavy for Hatton, because people generally underate/don't like Castillo. The weight issues have soured people on him, but he is and has always been picked against in big fights, and people's issues with his weight problems have, I believe, kept them from seeing clearly.

Long story short, I believe Hatton is tailor made for El Temible, and will be stopped late in the fight:yep :good

brooklyn1550
06-21-2007, 09:15 PM
Certainly a possibility, but I think Hatton will get the win on points.

compukiller
06-21-2007, 09:18 PM
Sorry for you, Hatton is gonna knock Castillo!!!
But great description man!

Thanks. If he does, I will give him props, but I believe El Temible will prevail.

gatorage
06-21-2007, 09:23 PM
An important point that I keep in mind with Hatton is that he has some smart people around him.

I've got no doubt that Graham and Co have watched Castillo closely well before setting up this bout and seen something (a lack of motivation, struggling with weight, a lowering in punch resistance and slowing reflexes would be my guess) in Castillo that shows he is right for fighting now.

I remember after the Tszyu fight, Graham said 'We had our eye on Tszyu for a while and we got him at the right time'...basically admitting that they got a 35 year old Tszyu that was pretty much done in terms of motivation and was looking for the final big money fight before riding off into the sunset.

The fact that Tszyu's trainer admitted telling Tszyu to retire after the Mitchell fight said it all to me.

But I like that. It was smart of Hatton to pick the right opponent at the right time. I think he is doing that with Castillo, who might just have given a bit too much away with the Corrales fights (and successive weight and financial disasters).

That said, I hope a mean looking Castillo turns up to fight. Love to see him win. I just think Hatton's camp know more than we do.

compukiller
06-21-2007, 09:26 PM
An important point that I keep in mind with Hatton is that he has some smart people around him.

I've got no doubt that Graham and Co have watched Castillo closely well before setting up this bout and seen something (a lack of motivation, struggling with weight, a lowering in punch resistance and slowing reflexes would be my guess) in Castillo that shows he is right for fighting now.

I remember after the Tszyu fight, Graham said 'We had our eye on Tszyu for a while and we got him at the right time'...basically admitting that they got a 35 year old Tszyu that was pretty much done in terms of motivation and was looking for the final big money fight before riding off into the sunset.

The fact that Tszyu's trainer admitted telling Tszyu to retire after the Mitchell fight said it all to me.

But I like that. It was smart of Hatton to pick the right opponent at the right time. I think he is doing that with Castillo, who might just have given a bit too much away with the Corrales fights (and successive weight and financial disasters).

That said, I hope a mean looking Castillo turns up to fight. Love to see him win. I just think Hatton's camp know more than we do.

If he comes in thinking Castillo is finished, I believe he will be rudely awakended. Underestimating Castillo can only mean trouble.

geppy
06-21-2007, 09:32 PM
You are seriously overrating Ngoudjo ,Compukiller. Herman looked very normal against Bailey and many thought he lost.

Look what Emmanuel Agustus did to Ngoudjo, he was knocked down and then totally out on his feet against Agustus, the final bell saved him. Watch the 12th round in the clip below.

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compukiller
06-21-2007, 09:37 PM
You are seriously overrating Ngoudjo ,Compukiller. Herman looked very normal against Bailey and many thogought he lost.

Look what Emmanuel Agustus did to Ngoudjo, he was knocked down and then totally out on his feet against Agustus, the final bell saved him. Watch the 12th round in the clip below.

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Ngodou is tough and rugged, especially for someone after an 11 month layoff. He will never be great, but that version that fought Castillo would have given Hatton problems (as the slow and plodding Urango did later that very same evening). I'm not saying he would win, but Hatton would not stop him at all.

geppy
06-21-2007, 09:40 PM
Ngodou is tough and rugged, especially for someone after an 11 month layoff. He will never be great, but that version that fought Castillo would have given Hatton problems (as the slow and plodding Urango did later that very same evening). I'm not saying he would win, but Hatton would not stop him at all.

Randell Bailly hurt Ngoudjo. Emmanuel Agustus had Ngoudjo out no question about that, the final bell saved him.

compukiller
06-21-2007, 09:41 PM
Randell Bailly hurt Ngoudjo. Emmanuel Agustus had Ngoudjo out no question about that, the final bell saved him.

The final bell also saved Hatton against Collazo.

geppy
06-21-2007, 09:45 PM
The final bell also saved Hatton against Collazo.

Not no were near as bad. Hatton was stunned in the 12th round , but he was ok. Not even close to being knocked down and out on his feet , with no legs and ropes holding him up like Ngoudjo.

Collazo is a World champion at 147. Ngoudjo is 140 lbs and barely survived Emmanuel Agustus.

compukiller
06-21-2007, 09:52 PM
Not no were near as bad. Hatton was stunned in the 12th round , but he was ok. Not even close to being knocked down and out on his feet , with no legs and ropes holding him up like Ngoudjo.

Collazo is a World champion at 147. Ngoudjo is 140 lbs and barely survived Emmanuel Agustus.

Collazo should have kept his belt in that fight, it was at worst a draw for Luis. I'm not saying castillo's performance against Nogdou was all that good, but he did win the fight. Hatton also struggled with Urango, who was schooled by average Ben Rabah, but given the decision.

geppy
06-21-2007, 09:57 PM
Collazo should have kept his belt in that fight, it was at worst a draw for Luis. I'm not saying castillo's performance against Nogdou was all that good, but he did win the fight. Hatton also struggled with Urango, who was schooled by average Ben Rabah, but given the decision.


Castillo did no better against Ngoudgo , than Hatton did against Collazo. Castillo was 1 point away from the fight being a draw (!), and some people thought he lost. It was a very close fight. Hatton scored a knock down, that was the differance in his close fight.

jonesjrp4p1
06-21-2007, 09:58 PM
hatton tko 10

compukiller
06-21-2007, 10:01 PM
Castillo did no better against Ngoudgo , than Hatton did against Collazo. Castillo was 1 point away from the fight being a draw (!), and some people thought he lost. It was a very close fight. Hatton scored a knock down, that was the differance in his close fight.

After the 4th rd, Collazo had that fight, although the KD made the difference. But hatton's hugging in that fight and the Urango fight made it seem like he really can't deal with bodywork.

HandsOfGold
06-21-2007, 10:11 PM
Hatton will wear Castillo out late and TKO him perhaps or finish stronger for a decision.

I don't see the battle-worn Castillo hanging in with the fresh, ferocious Hatton.

hellblazer
06-21-2007, 10:30 PM
Castillo by K.O/UD

Jinx
06-21-2007, 10:31 PM
Castillo TKO 10

sonny73
06-21-2007, 10:32 PM
I think alot of Americans will be in for a rude awakening come Saturday if what I suspect will be the Hatton that turns up for the bout against Castillo.I think seeing what Hatton looks like on his ringwalk will tell us alot and also hint on exactly the sort of night Castillo can look forward to,if he is as I think he will be,the same guy who turned up for Tszyu and he is very much looking like that guy,then Castillo could well be in for a long night.There is a couple of reasons Hatton has failed to look as good against both Collazo and Urango whilst still winning I might add.A huge one being the southpaw problem something Hatton has had for a long time in his career,another major factor which is not talked about much is the motivation,which must have been a problem after the Tszyu bout.I think Hatton is motivated for this one,and we will see him again bullying his opponent around the ring feeling much more comfortable fighting an orthodox for the first time in a couple of years.

compukiller
06-21-2007, 10:36 PM
I think alot of Americans will be in for a rude awakening come Saturday if what I suspect will be the Hatton that turns up for the bout against Castillo.I think seeing what Hatton looks like on his ringwalk will tell us alot and also hint on exactly the sort of night Castillo can look forward to,if he is as I think he will be,the same guy who turned up for Tszyu and he is very much looking like that guy,then Castillo could well be in for a long night.There is a couple of reasons Hatton has failed to look as good against both Collazo and Urango whilst still winning I might add.A huge one being the southpaw problem something Hatton has had for a long time in his career,another major factor which is not talked about much is the motivation,which must have been a problem after the Tszyu bout.I think Hatton is motivated for this one,and we will see him again bullying his opponent around the ring feeling much more comfortable fighting an orthodox for the first time in a couple of years.

He will have to be in top form to beat Castillo, there is no doubt. But if he has problems with the body shots, he is going to lose.

HandsOfGold
06-21-2007, 10:43 PM
I think alot of Americans will be in for a rude awakening come Saturday if what I suspect will be the Hatton that turns up for the bout against Castillo.I think seeing what Hatton looks like on his ringwalk will tell us alot and also hint on exactly the sort of night Castillo can look forward to,if he is as I think he will be,the same guy who turned up for Tszyu and he is very much looking like that guy,then Castillo could well be in for a long night.There is a couple of reasons Hatton has failed to look as good against both Collazo and Urango whilst still winning I might add.A huge one being the southpaw problem something Hatton has had for a long time in his career,another major factor which is not talked about much is the motivation,which must have been a problem after the Tszyu bout.I think Hatton is motivated for this one,and we will see him again bullying his opponent around the ring feeling much more comfortable fighting an orthodox for the first time in a couple of years.
You bring up a very good point concering the southpaw opponents he's been facing. A point that shouldn't be overlooked. Hatton will feel right at home fighting a righty.

Lance_Uppercut
06-21-2007, 11:02 PM
I think Hatton will win a tough decision.

TroubleLurks
06-21-2007, 11:44 PM
Hatton wins by beating the ever loving shit out of Castillo for 12 rounds. Like I said before, you will see a great champion grow very old overnight. Castillo might win 3 rounds...tops.

Arthur
06-22-2007, 12:00 AM
Hatton was hurt by bodypunch one fucking time and suddenly he has "problems with bodypunches"..nonsense!
I think you will be disapointed because this isn't going to be the tough fight everyone thinks it will be. Hatton will dominate from the opening bell...i'll be on ESB after the fight to discuss the fight but i bet many others (Castillo fans) will be hiding.

rodney
06-22-2007, 12:10 AM
I agree.
Hatton will be in for a shock.
Hatton cant put a dent in Castillo.
Castillo backs him up.
Castillo walks right thru him.
Hatton becomes the runner.
Hatton becomes the catcher.
Hatton will be looking for a place to lie down.
Hatton will be happy when the fight is stopped.
Good bye Ricky Hatton.

Illmatic
06-22-2007, 02:55 AM
Castillo will Kayo Hatton. After Hatton got the title and the money he hasnt been the same. I dont think his whole heart is in it anymore, hed much rather, sit around eat and drink a few million pounds away

Morrissey
06-22-2007, 08:20 AM
Hatton's aggressive clinching and dirty tricks will tire out the aging Castillo.

I won't be surprised if Castillo suddenly becomes "shot" after this fight.

His old age will show here...

kirk
06-22-2007, 08:34 AM
yes im favoring castillo here.... and i think also that he can stop hatton. hatton is looking a bit drained, and im not using that as an excuse but that DOES go into my prediction. i am favoring castillo ANYWAYS... but hattons looks dont help any.

that being said.... GO HATTON!!!

i pray to god he can outwork, outhustle, and get the edge in when needed to win the decision. no way i see him hurting castillo TOO much.

The Kurgan
06-22-2007, 10:32 AM
Actually it's "El Terrible". Castillo being called "El Temible" is simply a myth.

pipe wrenched
06-22-2007, 11:46 AM
I pick Castillo as well.

The Kurgan
06-22-2007, 12:39 PM
poor seamstress?

That makes about as much sense as "temible". I've looked in the dictionary, and it's not even there.

David UK
06-24-2007, 03:13 PM
I agree.
Hatton will be in for a shock.
Hatton cant put a dent in Castillo.
Castillo backs him up.
Castillo walks right thru him.
Hatton becomes the runner.
Hatton becomes the catcher.
Hatton will be looking for a place to lie down.
Hatton will be happy when the fight is stopped.
Good bye Ricky Hatton.

Goodbye Rodney,you PLONKER!!!

geppy
06-24-2007, 03:25 PM
After the 4th rd, Collazo had that fight, although the KD made the difference. But hatton's hugging in that fight and the Urango fight made it seem like he really can't deal with bodywork.

Yeah, you really schooled me in this thread. Hatton, indeed cannot deal with body work, it showed in this fight.

pipe wrenched
06-24-2007, 04:33 PM
I pick Castillo as well.


I was wrong. Congratulations to Hatton and his fans.