BBC British Pound for Pound rankings. What you guys reckon about this?

[Haye]

They now rank Carl Froch above David Haye.

I'm sorry, but beating an unproven, flashy prospect for a vacated title, (and looking leakier than a broken sieve while doing it) does not constitute knocking out a seasoned undisputed champion in his own back yard. (then unifying)

Froch is a worthy number 4, granted. And yes he is undefeated, and he has a lovely WBC belt. But the guy has never fought a beltholder (current) yet alone a true champion.

He picked up a vacated belt that's all, if it had been a WBO belt would there really be all the fuss? I dont think so, honestly. If anything just derision, yet is there really any difference?

Plus his resume is very poor. And yes, he will pose a threat to most top fighters with his chin and power, but anyone can see he will get destroyed against the elite, he is way to slow and easy to hit.

I'm not bashing Froch, but the BBC, their crappy coverage of boxing is pissing me off more and more.

[TehRileh]

i thought that when i looked.

[DON1]

BBC dont know shit about boxing. It is pointless going on there if you are hardcore boxing fan. Their boxing page abd rankings are garbage.

[cityofgod]

I think there both great and I love them both - and to be honest i dont care for BBC's opinion on boxing at the end of the day.

You know why?

And here's the irony:-

The binned off Froch & Haye to spunk their £1m budget on Fraudley Harrison.

Nearly all of Carl & David's fights where on BBC originally - even the world amateurs in Belfast.

[SouthpawSlayer]

bbc and sky are very similar in ways

[draw99]

Full list was as follows:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Carl Froch
4. David Haye
5. Nicky Cook
6. Junior Witter
7. Enzo Maccarinelli
8. Clinton Woods
9. Kevin Mitchell
10. John Murray

[robpalmer135]

I think Pascal is better than anyone Haye has beaten to be honest.

[ryanm8655]

But how do you know? He certainly isn't proven...

[dwilson]

Haye has never beaten anyone of note. Mormeck was fucked in the head before the fight.

[GazOC]

Haye has got to be above Froch.

[TFFP]

Full list was as follows:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Carl Froch
4. David Haye
5. Nicky Cook
6. Junior Witter
7. Enzo Maccarinelli
8. Clinton Woods
9. Kevin Mitchell
10. John Murray

I would have Haye second and Hatton third before Froch.

Witter is clearly a better fighter than Nicky Cook. He won a paper title, so what.

The rest isn't too bad.

[Beeston Brawler]

Mine......

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye/Froch
5. Witter
6. Cook
7. Maccarinelli
8. Woods
9. Thaxton
10. Munroe

[Benjiabc]

Mine......

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye/Froch
5. Witter
6. Cook
7. Maccarinelli
8. Woods
9. Thaxton
10. Munroe

put froch fourth and its spot on:good

[toom]

IMO Haye is better than Froch. He was undisputed cruiserweight world champion and has made a succesful start to his heavyweight career. Froch has been fighting at a lower level until winning his WBC super-middleweight title.

If they were able to meet each other at a similar weight Haye would knock him out, as Froch's defence is so porous.

[TehRileh]

I think Pascal is better than anyone Haye has beaten to be honest.

It doesnt just take into account 1 fight though. Hayes fought Mormeck, Gurov, Monte, Maccarinelli and Fragomeni. Name Frochs 5 best wins and then ask yourself again why he should be above Haye.

[TheChamp1000]

Full list was as follows:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Carl Froch
4. David Haye
5. Nicky Cook
6. Junior Witter
7. Enzo Maccarinelli
8. Clinton Woods
9. Kevin Mitchell
10. John Murray

Where is Audley? :huh He won olympic gold you know.

[Tuffnutz]

fuck the BBC.

[PaddyD1983]

Mine......

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye/Froch
5. Witter
6. Cook
7. Maccarinelli
8. Woods
9. Thaxton
10. Munroe

I see it similar but Froch at #4 and Murray instead of Thaxton (let the insults commence). I just think Murray is awesome!

[Boxing Gloves]

Who ever is in charge of the BBC wouldnt know boxing if it shagged there mum.

[PaddyD1983]

Who ever is in charge of the BBC wouldnt know boxing if it shagged there mum.

:rofl

[Benjiabc]

Full list was as follows:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Carl Froch
4. David Haye
5. Nicky Cook
6. Junior Witter
7. Enzo Maccarinelli
8. Clinton Woods
9. Kevin Mitchell
10. John Murray

swop froch and haye and its pretty good

[pne buz]

Full list was as follows:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Carl Froch
4. David Haye
5. Nicky Cook
6. Junior Witter
7. Enzo Maccarinelli
8. Clinton Woods
9. Kevin Mitchell
10. John Murray

Wheres Khan??:roll:

[Buggo]

Khan aint worthy of a top 10 spot. Not yet anyway. And at least not until he beats someone decent.

[Beeston Brawler]

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye
4. Froch
5. Witter
6. Cook
7. Woods
8. Maccarinelli
9. Thaxton
10. Munroe

[mrplow182]

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye
4. Froch
5. Witter
6. Cook
7. Woods
8. Maccarinelli
9. Thaxton
10. Munroe

Munroe?? 2 Tone has only ever really beaten Martinez and I fear for him in the rematch

How about Skelton??? Only for number 10......at a stretch......a big stretch

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Munroe on the basis that he has won the European title and defended against a couple of decent (no more than that) opponents.

Beats what Murray, Khan and Mitchell have achieved thus far.

Skelton wouldn't be far off actually, I will try and do a top 25 or something later.

[Words]

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye
4. Froch
5. Witter
6. Woods
7. Moore
8. Maccarinelli
9. Rhodes
10. Cook

Jon Thaxton, Amir Khan, Herbie Hide and Matt Skelton somewhere outside the top 10.

[mrplow182]

I think Munroe on the basis that he has won the European title and defended against a couple of decent (no more than that) opponents.

Beats what Murray, Khan and Mitchell have achieved thus far.

Skelton wouldn't be far off actually, I will try and do a top 25 or something later.

I wouldnt argue with Munroe above Mitchell, Khan and Murray at the moment

I was trying to pluck up some names that could compete in the top 10, and I was struggling

Lynes possibly was until he was robbed against Branco but now is he even top 20

[Beeston Brawler]

I missed Rhodes actually, will have to think about that one. Moore hasn't been actively beating decent names for the past 18 months and misses out by default.

[mrplow182]

I missed Rhodes actually, will have to think about that one. Moore hasn't been actively beating decent names for the past 18 months and misses out by default.


Isn't Rhodes fighting Small next???

If he wins that then he's top 10

At the moment he's top 20

[Beeston Brawler]

He would probably be in the top 10 at the expense of Thaxton really......

Beating Small wouldn't move him up though, because I don't rate him at all.

[mrplow182]

He would probably be in the top 10 at the expense of Thaxton really......

Beating Small wouldn't move him up though, because I don't rate him at all.

I do like Ryan Rhodes, one of my favourite boxers in the late 90s, I liked the Ingle trained fighters style a lot when I was younger

Cleverly and Pryce would be top 15 for me

I think Small can look very good in bursts

Has Gavin Rees stopped boxing or is he going back down to LW?

[Joe Pirrelly]

Come on. Someone at the bbc is out for a laugh. Its always been like this. Maybe they're right but at this stage its clear wind up banter. Good on 'em!

[GPater11093]

1. Calzaghe
2. Haye
3. Hatton
4. Froch
5. Cook
6. Witter
7. Maccarinelli
8. Munroe
9. Arthur
10. Mitchell

[fowler9-is-god]

How is froch above haye? What a joke. Ive got nothing against Carl Froch and im glad he won the world title, but he's completly over-rated. His calling out of Joe Calzaghe is laughable. If he does meet his mandatory Jermain Taylor he will get well and truly exposed. And Kessler would kill him.

[cityofgod]

How is froch above haye? What a joke. Ive got nothing against Carl Froch and im glad he won the world title, but he's completly over-rated. His calling out of Joe Calzaghe is laughable. If he does meet his mandatory Jermain Taylor he will get well and truly exposed. And Kessler would kill him.

Froch has the best belt in arguably the deepest division in the sport right now.

It was no wonder that so many ducked him. Inkin...Taylor even ducked him for christ's sake, opting to fight and never-any-good pile 'o shite Jeff Lacy.

I have more argument with Calzaghe being ranked above Hatton.

The guy has decisioned 2 x boxing pensioners (and one of those wins was a split decision...35% of the viewers thought he lost).

Hatton lost against the P4P no1 - he has ambition and otherwise has looked pretty mint.

I like Haye and Froch and fair play to both of them.

Calzaghe is the stinker in this list. The cherry-picking chicken shit should give B-hop a rematch. "I had an off night and still beat him" - no mate, Hopkins was the one who had the off night not you.

[sstevelcfc]

I would have Haye second and Hatton third before Froch.

Witter is clearly a better fighter than Nicky Cook. He won a paper title, so what.

The rest isn't too bad.
how can you put haye in front of hatton fuck off

[sstevelcfc]

Froch has the best belt in arguably the deepest division in the sport right now.

It was no wonder that so many ducked him. Inkin...Taylor even ducked him for christ's sake, opting to fight and never-any-good pile 'o shite Jeff Lacy.

I have more argument with Calzaghe being ranked above Hatton.

The guy has decisioned 2 x boxing pensioners (and one of those wins was a split decision...35% of the viewers thought he lost).

Hatton lost against the P4P no1

I like Haye and Froch and fair play to both of them.

Calzaghe is the stinker in this list. The cherry-picking chicken shit should give B-hop a rematch. "I had an off night and still beat him" - no mate, Hopkins was the one who had the off night not you.ime a massive hatton fan but cmon calzaghe has got to be the best of the bunch

[PaddyD1983]

Froch has the best belt in arguably the deepest division in the sport right now.

It was no wonder that so many ducked him. Inkin...Taylor even ducked him for christ's sake, opting to fight and never-any-good pile 'o shite Jeff Lacy.

I have more argument with Calzaghe being ranked above Hatton.

The guy has decisioned 2 x boxing pensioners (and one of those wins was a split decision...35% of the viewers thought he lost).

Hatton lost against the P4P no1 - he has ambition and otherwise has looked pretty mint.

I like Haye and Froch and fair play to both of them.

Calzaghe is the stinker in this list. The cherry-picking chicken shit should give B-hop a rematch. "I had an off night and still beat him" - no mate, Hopkins was the one who had the off night not you.

I'd love to put Hatton top of the pile, but 46-0, SMW and LHW champion. Wins over Kessler, an undefeated and hyped Lacy, Eubank and Woodhall. As well as a win over Hopkins who then went on to beat Pavlik. Calzaghe is a shoe in at number 1. And this is without the Roy Jones fight.