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robpalmer135
12-09-2008, 12:00 PM
I saw an interview with Carl Froch where he said he took a pain killing injection for a cracked rib before the Pascal fight. i was quite suprised.

i understand a footballer like leadly king taking pain killing injections to get through a match, but a boxer tkaing pain killing injections, surley thats not allowed.

a big part of boxing is inflicting puncishment in your opponent, surley pain killing injections will stop this.

for example, cotto could not take anymore agaisnt margorito, maybe if he had taken pain killing injections before the fight he would of lasted the full 12.

d239113g
12-09-2008, 12:15 PM
he had a valid injury. Just a local injection where the injury was. It's not like he was pilled up so he could not feel pain anywhere. He aint ..... Mr T

TFFP
12-09-2008, 12:19 PM
That would make no difference to any further punishment inflicted.

Pug1list
12-09-2008, 12:47 PM
Actually would be very stupid and dangerous, pain mechanism is there for a reason.

Ed.
12-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Cotto would have needed a brain injection to keep fighting against Margo. Localised pain relief is valid in a sense it allows you to continue training through it but come fight night, to fight through pain you can't take due to inhibitors is just dumb and will shorten anyone's career.

brickfists
12-09-2008, 01:02 PM
yeah its legal but that dont make it right

a fighter should only get in the ring when there 100%

dwilson
12-09-2008, 01:43 PM
I have had these pain injections before and they are for localised pain and do not help in any other areas.

Steve Fox
12-09-2008, 01:59 PM
I've heard that he also had a perforated eardrum as well - hard as nails! I don't blame JC for running off to the seniors circuit.

dwilson
12-09-2008, 02:34 PM
Hopkins had to have them in his arse after the JC fight.

GazOC
12-09-2008, 02:49 PM
Cotto would have got KO'd if he'd have had pain killing injections for the Margo fight.

Tuffnutz
12-09-2008, 08:38 PM
De La Hoya had one in his hands for one of his fight's.

Of course this allowed him to throw hard punches without feeling any pain and if he damaged his hand even more he still woudl'nt be able to feel pain.

I don't like it because it can alter the outcome of a fight but how many fighters go into a fight 100%?

If every fighter had to be 100% we'd have a lot more pull out's than we do right now.

JonOli
12-09-2008, 08:53 PM
Eubank had them in his knees for his fight with Calzaghe and couldn't walk for a week after.


Is that true?

JonOli
12-09-2008, 08:56 PM
It sounds highly dangerous to me - desensitising parts of your body then pounding them senseless.

Vantage_West
12-09-2008, 11:52 PM
it would severly effect your performance. it will slow you down and make you lathargic.....also i cant train if i have had a few ibups. my body feels all out of whack. no snap or anything... my body feels a quarter inch smaller. so i over extend and miss...it is a drug in th eend all and enough of it will cause problems later.

after the fight they have doctors on hand to give you a safe cocktail of painkillers and relivers...anyone seen the HBO special edit to the end of ward-gatti III ? you can see micky munching into a pack asprin.

icemax
12-10-2008, 04:01 AM
Cortisone injections are part and parcel of some athletes lives.

Mooresy
12-11-2008, 04:47 AM
yeah its legal but that dont make it right

a fighter should only get in the ring when there 100%
If we waited till fighters were 100% before they fought we'd have about 10 fights a year WORLDWIDE!!:good

markedwardscott
12-22-2008, 10:32 PM
Ali's right hand.

JonOli
12-22-2008, 11:02 PM
I remember as a kid playing football and they used to use this spray that would freeze part of your leg if injured. It got banned later on... I guess it's a bit like that.. or maybe not.:D

JonOli
12-22-2008, 11:04 PM
If we waited till fighters were 100% before they fought we'd have about 10 fights a year WORLDWIDE!!:good


They used to fight every few weeks, your lucky to get two fights out of them a year now. I really don't think their that stretched in the way.... that we should be pleased they manage to be fully fit once a year.

cityofgod
12-24-2008, 06:09 PM
Froch took the injection due to the fact that when he exhaled it was pinching him badly apparently (Froch site) and he was talked into taking it.

Apparently the injection Froch took would only last about 6..7 rounds. But by then adrenaline etc would see him to the end.

It was the same type used by Kessler in his broken right hand against Calzaghe.

That probably explains why he switched off during his fight after about round 6 against Calzaghe.

Fair play, they both took a measure to keep the fight ON rather than pull out with injury which certain others 'legend killers' would have done in a blink.

LiamE
12-24-2008, 09:01 PM
yeah its legal but that dont make it right

a fighter should only get in the ring when there 100%

Thats nice in theory but this is their career. They dont fight, they dont get paid. What is more if you let the TV companies down at the last minute for anything that could have been fought through, you are gonna be on their shit list for a long time.

LiamE
12-24-2008, 09:09 PM
Froch took the injection due to the fact that when he exhaled it was pinching him badly apparently (Froch site) and he was talked into taking it.

Apparently the injection Froch took would only last about 6..7 rounds. But by then adrenaline etc would see him to the end.

It was the same type used by Kessler in his broken right hand against Calzaghe.

That probably explains why he switched off during his fight after about round 6 against Calzaghe.

Fair play, they both took a measure to keep the fight ON rather than pull out with injury which certain others 'legend killers' would have done in a blink.

Kessler didnt have a broken hand. It was reported his injury was "bone deep bruising" which is indeed painful. Fighting a full 12 rounds with a broken hand and throwing it would most likely end your career.

ShadowWorks
12-24-2008, 09:37 PM
Of course high level boxers take Pain killers, Opiates, Stimulants and anything else you care to mention, these have been taken by most of the people we watch on sports, Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard are great example of a cokey boxers, the brain gets flooded with endorphins so it's harder to KO a coke head, not impossible but the punch resistance goes way up, if you want to be a successful boxer you better know your chemistry and your body.