Peter-Maskev

[joe the great]

Dang Maskev already looks to be in great shape. Peter looks pretty chunky. If Peter doesn't come to this fight in tip top shape he will lose. I like both fighters. I hate for either to lose but I think a lot of people are underestimating Maskev.

[brooklyn1550]

He looked fat at the press conference yesterday. If he weighs in at 260+, he could very well drop a decision if Maskaev can avoid his shots and outwork him down the stretch and in the championship rounds. For being a 38 year old veteran, Maskaev stays in good shape. It's ashame that the same can't be said for the 26 year old top contender. I'm still going with Peter TKO, but with heavyweights these days, who knows?...

[joe the great]

Well Peter does have the better chin. They both hit hard and peter proved that he can box when he fought Toney the second time. Maskev has the edge in experience. Conditioning could be the decider, unless Peter really gets some good shots in early on the chin and even then it could be because his conditioning was good. Of course the age factor should go to Peter.

[Lampley]

Peter usually disappoints with his conditioning. I hope he shows up in better shape.

This could be a much closer fight than a lot of people believe. Toney was shot to hell in the rematch, making Peter look refined than he is. I do believe he has improved, but he remains very raw. And if he's out of shape and raw, that's a big problem.

[Boxfan1]

You know, everyone is overlooking something very important. Maskaev throws very very hard punches. The kind of punches that break men down with brute force. In the Wlad fight, Peter got schooled and Wlad held back on his power shots to conserve energy. He was happy outpointing Peter and didn't go for the KO, even when he had Peter hurt. Against Toney, in the first fight, there were moments when Toney had Peter staggering back with some very well placed shots. I was surprised to see that Toney, who is considered a light puncher at heavy, actually hurting Peter.

So, with all this, and knowing that Maskaev throws more power punches than Wlad, and with much more power than Toney, don't be surprised to see Peter get knocked on his ass in this fight. Peter really thinks he's going to walk into the ring, hit Maskaev and go home with a belt. I DON'T THINK SO. Expect a good fight while it lasts.

[Shpion]

Dang Maskev already looks to be in great shape. Peter looks pretty chunky. If Peter doesn't come to this fight in tip top shape he will lose. I like both fighters. I hate for either to lose but I think a lot of people are underestimating Maskev.

Maybe this is not a good picture but Peter does not look all that overweight in here.

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[Lampley]

Maybe this is not a good picture but Peter does not look all that overweight in here.

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I don't know, that jacket looks like it's being given a pretty good run.

He's always going to have the roundish shape, but he does look heavier here to me. He has time to fix it, though.

[Danny Ocean]

maskaev should work on his footwork but with his huuuge right hand and good jab i could see him outpointing a overweight out of shape peter

[natep]

I did not see Toney hurt Peter once. Toney landed shots but Peter kept coming forward, walking right through his shots like they were nothing. Sam Peter came in good shape for the Toney fight. Hopefully the same guy shows up.

[Shpion]

I don't know, that jacket looks like it's being given a pretty good run.

He's always going to have the roundish shape, but he does look heavier here to me. He has time to fix it, though.

I guess. The only thing is obvoius is that Maskaev in much better shape at this point.

[jopez707]

Peter should win even if he comes in overweight, Maskaev will not be able to withstand constant pressure. Hopefully Peter does not gass out.

[Shpion]

Peter should win even if he comes in overweight, Maskaev will not be able to withstand constant pressure. Hopefully Peter does not gass out.


Did you even read what you wrote?

"Peter should win even if he comes in overweight, ...... Hopefully Peter does not gass out.":nut

[jopez707]

Did you even read what you wrote?

"Peter should win even if he comes in overweight, ...... Hopefully Peter does not gass out.":nut

Thats right! I dont care if Peter comes in at 280 pounds, he should still be able to beat journeyman Maskaev. Hopefully he doesnt come in that heavy, because it will proabably take him longer to catch Maskaev, but no matter how long it takes he will catch him; and when that happens it will be Da svidaniya! to old Oleg.

[Shpion]

Thats right! I dont care if Peter comes in at 280 pounds, he should still be able to beat journeyman Maskaev. Hopefully he doesnt come in that heavy, because it will proabably take him longer to catch Maskaev, but no matter how long it takes he will catch him; and when that happens it will be Da svidaniya! to old Oleg.

So what happens if gets gassed out by the 3rd or 4th rd and cannot throw more punches?

[AJAX]

the fight is still 7 weeks away, Peter has lot's of time to get into shape...even if he isn't right now.

[Shpion]

the fight is still 7 weeks away, Peter has lot's of time to get into shape...even if he isn't right now.

That's true. I just hope he stops hanging out with Toney.

[don owens]

Never been impressed with Peter. Maskaev will decision him and may even ko him around 10th round.

[Willy Bonka]

Oleg in ROUND 8 ...*TKO over Sam ...( I hope )!!!

:bbb

[Stezzie]

You know, everyone is overlooking something very important. Maskaev throws very very hard punches. The kind of punches that break men down with brute force. In the Wlad fight, Peter got schooled and Wlad held back on his power shots to conserve energy. He was happy outpointing Peter and didn't go for the KO, even when he had Peter hurt. Against Toney, in the first fight, there were moments when Toney had Peter staggering back with some very well placed shots. I was surprised to see that Toney, who is considered a light puncher at heavy, actually hurting Peter.

So, with all this, and knowing that Maskaev throws more power punches than Wlad, and with much more power than Toney, don't be surprised to see Peter get knocked on his ass in this fight. Peter really thinks he's going to walk into the ring, hit Maskaev and go home with a belt. I DON'T THINK SO. Expect a good fight while it lasts.

Ok now Wlad held back...If you listen to Manny he said "They were amazed at how Peter took the punches Wlad landed...because Wlad was trying to knock him out." I've seen the fight plenty of times. Wlad wasn't taking it easy he was doing what he could. I think Mask will "Take it easy" for the same reason Wlad did. Only Mask won't have the skills to keep Peter at bay...he will go down just like Wlad but he will stay down. Mask's chin has let him down against big punchers throughout his career. At 38 years old this will not magically change. His claim to fame is beating Rahman twice...which is less than steller. I'm not saying that Peter is great I'm just saying I think he will not have any serious problems with Mask...I think he could trade with Mask and stop him within 5 rounds...

[El Bombasto]

even though i think peter's garbage, still takes this

maskaev is too old and chinny

[DamonD]

He could turn up 300+ and tripping over his own legs all the time - if he punches out Maskaev, he'll be the new WBC and it's as simple as that.

Even when Peter has been in good shape his face has still looked round.
I'm not gonna judge either his OR Maskaev's shape on photos like this, remember all the joy around here from the Toney fans for his pre-Peter II photoshots?

[andyZOR]

Maskaev is looking good. I'm happy for him.

[Ramshall1]

Oleg can take a punch, this has HW FOTY candidate written all over it.

[Grabonator]

the fight is still 7 weeks away, Peter has lot's of time to get into shape...even if he isn't right now.

Its actually 8 weeks away.

[a.arthur.h]

He could turn up 300+ and tripping over his own legs all the time - if he punches out Maskaev, he'll be the new WBC and it's as simple as that.

Even when Peter has been in good shape his face has still looked round.
I'm not gonna judge either his OR Maskaev's shape on photos like this, remember all the joy around here from the Toney fans for his pre-Peter II photoshots?

Which is why if you are making a prediction you should really wait until the weigh-in. In Toney's case that was a requirement. All those photos of him eating salad didn't really turn out to be worth a damn in the end.

My gut tells me Peter will win this, but I am rooting for Maskaev. Will reserve my decision for after the weigh-in is completed.

[BoxingGuru]

I did not see Toney hurt Peter once. Toney landed shots but Peter kept coming forward, walking right through his shots like they were nothing. Sam Peter came in good shape for the Toney fight. Hopefully the same guy shows up.

Uh yeah Toney has no power.

[geppy]

Maybe this is not a good picture but Peter does not look all that overweight in here.

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The WBC Medal Maskaev is wearing is cool, WTF is it ? I have never seen it before .

Peter does have a gut , it looks like in the photo.

[andyZOR]

The WBC Medal Maskaev is wearing is cool, WTF is it ? I have never seen it before .

Peter does have a gut , it looks like in the photo.

lol nice avatar. Did you make it yourself? :p

Anyways., Peter does look a bit fat, but none the less, he has 8 weeks to fix that.

[geppy]

lol nice avatar. Did you make it yourself? :p

Anyways., Peter does look a bit fat, but none the less, he has 8 weeks to fix that.

Yes, I did. Just finnished it up!

[Suge Green]

The WBC Medal Maskaev is wearing is cool, WTF is it ? I have never seen it before .

Peter does have a gut , it looks like in the photo.

Maskaev doesn't want to look like a chump wearing the belt out of the ring, and needed a way to let people know he's champ. Afterall, Oleg has been lost in the concurrent shuffles of World Boxing Conspiracy turmoil, and an in flux of Russian champs. That medal is supposed to answer the inevitable question the mainstream public will ask..."WTF is an OLEG...???" Evidently, the negotiators for the fight didn't even know he was champ, as they were attempting to pay him below the champions share...

I think during the promotion for Peter's last fight he was wearing native African garb (which brought about much speculation about his shape), which covered his simillar condition at the time. I believe for the final press conference he looked good, and will this time as well.

[Mr "T"]

Maskaev doesn't want to look like a chump wearing the belt out of the ring, and needed a way to let people know he's champ. Afterall, Oleg has been lost in the concurrent shuffles of World Boxing Conspiracy turmoil, and an in flux of Russian champs. That medal is supposed to answer the inevitable question the mainstream public will ask..."WTF is an OLEG...???" Evidently, the negotiators for the fight didn't even know he was champ, as they were attempting to pay him below the champions share...

I think during the promotion for Peter's last fight he was wearing native African garb (which brought about much speculation about his shape), which covered his simillar condition at the time. I believe for the final press conference he looked good, and will this time as well.
What's your take, Suge? I think this fight may go the distance. Pete doesn't look like the man.

[Suge Green]

What's your take, Suge? I think this fight may go the distance. Pete doesn't look like the man.

Sam will probably be within 10 pounds of his weight last time either way. I don't like the long layoff, but for the Peter fans the battle is all downhill now. Supposedly Maskaev is showing up, I believe more than half of the battle will have proved to be getting him in the ring.

[Heavyrighthand]

Sam will probably be within 10 pounds of his weight last time either way. I don't like the long layoff, but for the Peter fans the battle is all downhill now. Supposedly Maskaev is showing up, I believe more than half of the battle will have proved to be getting him in the ring.

And the other half, the toughest half, will be Peter trying to avoid being outboxed by Maskaev. :good

Oleg by decision.

[BoxingGuru]

And the other half, the toughest half, will be Peter trying to avoid being outboxed by Maskaev. :good

Oleg by decision.

Completely agree. Oleg UD and I also bet he hurts Scam Cheater in the fight.

[joe the great]

I did not see Toney hurt Peter once. Toney landed shots but Peter kept coming forward, walking right through his shots like they were nothing. Sam Peter came in good shape for the Toney fight. Hopefully the same guy shows up.
I do think Peter has a good chin. He went twelve with a big puncher in Wlad. Toney isn't a very big puncher at heavyweight though. Still you are right none of Toney's puncher phased Peter and Toney has a stoppage over Holoyfield, so he's not a weak heavyweight puncher.

[MrFoFody]

Sure Maskaev has been Koed in the past but Peter's power and skill are highly overrated. Between the two, Maskaev is the heavier hitter based on the competition he's faced and koed. I believe Maskaev has overcome his mental/confidence issues based on how tough he fought Rahman and the way he took some of Rahman's best stuff in that match. If Peter comes in overweight (255+) I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a late Maskaev win by TKO. It takes stamina to survive a hard fight for 12 rounds, not just a chin. Maskaev by UD or late TKO depending on Peter's weight.

[Suge Green]

Peter is a former soccer player who has stamina, and is of a naturally large physique. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[Odo]

Maskaev vs Peter can go either way IMO.
Peter isnt the undisputed nr.2 at heavyweight as some people here on esb make it sound.
Peter had two lame fights with that fat dwarf Toney who was barely able to beat a mediocre journeyman in his last outing to a ring.Peter also had to go the full route with the harmless Croat Pudar,and didnt look that convincing in some of his other pro fights.
Paolo Vidoz kicked him out of the olympic games,and at the amateurs he wasnt even worth to cross Povetkin's shadow.
Maskaev isnt the youngest fighter out there.True!And he isnt in his prime anymore either.However,he is still a decent fighter,and he for sure can be competitive against a fighter like Sam Peter.
If forced I would probably bet my money on Peter,but I wont be surprised at all to learn that Maskaev has won a wide point decision against the slow African.