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Infern0
12-13-2008, 01:03 AM
Ok, Ok I give Mundane a good trashing on a pretty consistant basis. Time to explain why. Anthony is a fighter with good natural talents, of that there is no doubt. Unfortunatley the man seems to have been also given the brain of an ape. His Rascist, spiteful tirades have no place in sport. On top of this is Anthony's consistant proclaimations that he is world class. Mundine is a national level fighter at best. He has chosen to duck anyone with reasonable talent levels, Fighting guys like Sam Soliman instead. On top of this is the fact that sports journo's seem to think the guy is on the same level as the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Bullshit.

Mundine is a Rascist, a coward and an idiot, and that's why I hate him

teke
12-13-2008, 01:05 AM
Good call brother :happy

goodnight
12-13-2008, 01:29 AM
I second the vote for mundines name to blanked out on this forum like *******

I hope retires, now. Then he can say he was an undefeated middleweight.

Infern0
12-13-2008, 01:48 AM
The worst thing about Mundine is that he had the potential to make a name for Australia in boxing, he has done that somewhat, a tarnished name.

teke
12-13-2008, 01:52 AM
:lol: I need to drink more

kel
12-13-2008, 01:55 AM
Ok, Ok I give Mundane a good trashing on a pretty consistant basis. Time to explain why. Anthony is a fighter with good natural talents, of that there is no doubt. Unfortunatley the man seems to have been also given the brain of an ape. His Rascist, spiteful tirades have no place in sport. On top of this is Anthony's consistant proclaimations that he is world class. Mundine is a national level fighter at best. He has chosen to duck anyone with reasonable talent levels, Fighting guys like Sam Soliman instead. On top of this is the fact that sports journo's seem to think the guy is on the same level as the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Bullshit.

Mundine is a Rascist, a coward and an idiot, and that's why I hate him

Most of this is correct, however, national level fighter is a bit harsh.

JOSEY WALES
12-13-2008, 02:23 AM
The worst thing about Mundine is that he had the potential to make a name for Australia in boxing, he has done that somewhat, a tarnished name.

Listen mate you speak a heap of truth , Australia (like Wales) has a limited number of Blokes capable of hanging with the Yanks so we don't send the lads over there unless they are capable , Australia has followed this pattern over the decades and supplied World boxing with some tough mo fuckers but this Mundine kid has pissed all over that tradition in fine style , how any cunt could still support this wanker is well beyond my comprehension :deal

THN
12-13-2008, 03:01 AM
Ok, Ok I give Mundane a good trashing on a pretty consistant basis. Time to explain why. Anthony is a fighter with good natural talents, of that there is no doubt. Unfortunatley the man seems to have been also given the brain of an ape. His Rascist, spiteful tirades have no place in sport. On top of this is Anthony's consistant proclaimations that he is world class. Mundine is a national level fighter at best. He has chosen to duck anyone with reasonable talent levels, Fighting guys like Sam Soliman instead. On top of this is the fact that sports journo's seem to think the guy is on the same level as the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Bullshit.

Mundine is a Rascist, a coward and an idiot, and that's why I hate him
:yep

twoohands
12-13-2008, 03:52 AM
Ok, Ok I give Mundane a good trashing on a pretty consistant basis. Time to explain why. Anthony is a fighter with good natural talents, of that there is no doubt. Unfortunatley the man seems to have been also given the brain of an ape. His Rascist, spiteful tirades have no place in sport. On top of this is Anthony's consistant proclaimations that he is world class. Mundine is a national level fighter at best. He has chosen to duck anyone with reasonable talent levels, Fighting guys like Sam Soliman instead. On top of this is the fact that sports journo's seem to think the guy is on the same level as the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Bullshit.

Mundine is a Rascist, a coward and an idiot, and that's why I hate him



hey inferno, does mundine own you something. You sound like a real sad sack to me, getting on forums whinging about how much you hate mundine. Your a coward who sits behind a key board. Like it or not mundine is world class and atleast hes out there doin it.

Inferno id like to see you step in the ring with solomon or taylor or kessler.

ashley
12-13-2008, 03:55 AM
I dont hate Mundine.....however I dont like the top 100 fighs he has...got to be fighting top 7.

I think Mundine is world class...he was top 4 or 5 SMW in the world....however I dont think he was close to the top 2.

It would be nice to see Mundine take on Geale or Gruffen before he gets a shot at the WBA title late 2009.

Boxing is marketing, hype and trash talking and Mundine does it better than most.

LeonMcS
12-13-2008, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by twohands
Like it or not mundine is world class and atleast hes out there doin it.

Doing what exactly?

melbboy
12-13-2008, 04:24 AM
Ok, Ok I give Mundane a good trashing on a pretty consistant basis. Time to explain why. Anthony is a fighter with good natural talents, of that there is no doubt. Unfortunatley the man seems to have been also given the brain of an ape. His Rascist, spiteful tirades have no place in sport. On top of this is Anthony's consistant proclaimations that he is world class. Mundine is a national level fighter at best. He has chosen to duck anyone with reasonable talent levels, Fighting guys like Sam Soliman instead. On top of this is the fact that sports journo's seem to think the guy is on the same level as the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Bullshit.

Mundine is a Rascist, a coward and an idiot, and that's why I hate him
it sounds like ur jealous i'm calling mundine dat ur talkn shit about him, u gana look like this b 4 x-mas :!::dead:|

THN
12-13-2008, 04:28 AM
it sounds like ur jealous i'm calling mundine dat ur talkn shit about him, u gana look like this b 4 x-mas :!::dead:|

:think stick to your medicine

twoohands
12-13-2008, 05:24 AM
Doing what exactly?


FIGHTING. and if use all think he is fighting fighters below him thats a compliment in itself.

Although i am a mundine fan i would like to see him fight someone top 10 next year.

Mundine is worls class, i love the way he fights, hes got all the moves. The best in the country at the moment.

LeonMcS
12-13-2008, 05:30 AM
Fighting, yes, the one saving grace he has is that he fights regularly.

But fighting fighters below him I dont see as something I should be complimenting him on. Its mismatch after mismatch, the same two card trick every time he fights.
Its why theres a new thread everyday about this. Its monotonous and boring.

I can't accept title defences where his opponent suddenly materialises at #15 a few days before his announced as Mundines opponent. It stinks.

I'll disagree with you but good to see a differing opinion not resorting to insults or 40 emoticons. Cheers.

ashley
12-13-2008, 05:34 AM
FIGHTING. and if use all think he is fighting fighters below him thats a compliment in itself.

Although i am a mundine fan i would like to see him fight someone top 10 next year.

Mundine is worls class, i love the way he fights, hes got all the moves. The best in the country at the moment.

Vic is best in aus for mine. :deal

flamengo
12-13-2008, 05:45 AM
Most of this is correct, however, national level fighter is a bit harsh.

True Kel.... as for Soliman, he was still fighting topliners in the States prior to being BASHED by Mundine... Sammy is a very, very well credentialed fighter. Timing for the Green fight worked perfectly for Mundine also.... Green was shot before fight night. Mundines mouth has been a joke..same as his management... A wasted talent? For sure. He had the ability to gain higher rewards.. potentially he still has?
Larry Holmes said the thing he wanted the most was respect...
Jeff harding said he wanted the money, fuck the respect.
Mundine has the money, he will have battle to ever gain a fair level of respect from most.

ashley
12-13-2008, 05:56 AM
True Kel.... as for Soliman, he was still fighting topliners in the States prior to being BASHED by Mundine... Sammy is a very, very well credentialed fighter. Timing for the Green fight worked perfectly for Mundine also.... Green was shot before fight night. Mundines mouth has been a joke..same as his management... A wasted talent? For sure. He had the ability to gain higher rewards.. potentially he still has?
Larry Holmes said the thing he wanted the most was respect...
Jeff harding said he wanted the money, fuck the respect.
Mundine has the money, he will have battle to ever gain a fair level of respect from most.

Even if Mundine beat Geale and Sturm in 2009 people would still bag him....They would say Geale is untested and Sturm is the weakest MW champ....he needs to beat Pav and AA BE4 HE GETS RESPECT.

Scatter
12-13-2008, 06:19 AM
Anthony Mundine is either the biggest waste of talent in Australian boxing history; or the most successful bluffer/conman in world sport.

either way, not exactly a mantle to be proud of.

p.s. He's quite clearly the former (a waste of talent) who is fast turning into the latter.

Anenigma
12-13-2008, 06:29 AM
Anthony Mundine is either the biggest waste of talent in Australian boxing history; or the most successful bluffer/conman in world sport.

either way, not exactly a mantle to be proud of.

p.s. He's quite clearly the former (a waste of talent) who is fast turning into the latter.

What a great post spot on, I hope he proves us all wrong in 2009, from the start of it (Taylor) I don't think so, but might warm into something big.
After what I expected after the second Sullivan fight only Abraham or Pavlik will suffice.

pecks
12-13-2008, 06:39 AM
What a great post spot on
:nono Don't feed his ego, it's big enough as it is.

Anenigma
12-13-2008, 07:09 AM
:nono Don't feed his ego, it's big enough as it is.

I don't give a rats arse what you think of Scatter, my post was reguarding what he stated in his post and I felt it was spot on.
Obviously I will have to get used to knobs trying to bump up their posts number with pointless jibe rather than commenting on the actual topic.

pecks
12-13-2008, 07:26 AM
Obviously I will have to get used to knobs trying to bump up their posts number with pointless jibe rather than commenting on the actual topic.Compared to previously being used to knobs being inserted down your throat and up your sphincter willy nilly?!

Anenigma
12-13-2008, 07:30 AM
Compared to previously being used to knobs being inserted down your throat and up your sphincter willy nilly?!

I rest my case:roll:

flamengo
12-13-2008, 07:53 AM
Even if Mundine beat Geale and Sturm in 2009 people would still bag him....They would say Geale is untested and Sturm is the weakest MW champ....he needs to beat Pav and AA BE4 HE GETS RESPECT.


EXACTLY!!! Mundine is a very talented man.... Its just hard to be an artist without the canvas that suits the brush... Pity he is surrounded by fuck heads..

Francis75
12-13-2008, 08:00 AM
hey inferno, does mundine own you something. You sound like a real sad sack to me, getting on forums whinging about how much you hate mundine. Your a coward who sits behind a key board. Like it or not mundine is world class and atleast hes out there doin it.

Inferno id like to see you step in the ring with solomon or taylor or kessler.

We are all cowards who sit behind our keyboards, including you. Just because we are all "cowards" as you say doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on a sport we follow. We'd all like to see you step in the ring with Taylor or Kessler aswell.
Can you please explain your definition of "world class" please because the way i see it Mundine is extremely talented but lacking in the "very good wins" category. Imo he has 1 very good win (Danny Green). If he had 3 or 4 of these "very good wins" then i would also call him world class or elite class but his resume of wins doesn't warrant such praise.As i said, Anthony appears to be an extremely talented boxer but has yet to really prove this to the boxing world.

teke
12-13-2008, 08:13 AM
Anthony Mundine is either the biggest waste of talent in Australian boxing history; or the most successful bluffer/conman in world sport.

either way, not exactly a mantle to be proud of.

p.s. He's quite clearly the former (a waste of talent) who is fast turning into the latter.I love you Scatter

I love you and a bottle of goon

stiflers mum
12-13-2008, 07:38 PM
an anti-mundine thread hasnt been many of those lately.

shanemfr
12-13-2008, 10:40 PM
I wouldn't even call Mundine a cunt, they actually serve a purpose on the planet.

Watto
12-13-2008, 11:09 PM
Most of this is correct, however, national level fighter is a bit harsh.

I totally agree he is a better fighter than national level thats why it shits me when he only fights guys that are at this level,you can debate all day long about the likes of Soliman,Taylor etc..He should be taking on the best...I give the bloke a good bagging myself only because he ducks the big fighters and settles for blokes that are shot..He should be making a name for himself on the world scene,but lets face it the guys a joke....

Infern0
12-14-2008, 12:05 AM
We are all cowards who sit behind our keyboards, including you. Just because we are all "cowards" as you say doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on a sport we follow. We'd all like to see you step in the ring with Taylor or Kessler aswell.
Can you please explain your definition of "world class" please because the way i see it Mundine is extremely talented but lacking in the "very good wins" category. Imo he has 1 very good win (Danny Green). If he had 3 or 4 of these "very good wins" then i would also call him world class or elite class but his resume of wins doesn't warrant such praise.As i said, Anthony appears to be an extremely talented boxer but has yet to really prove this to the boxing world.


I wouldn't say we are "Cowards" because we don't box, also I wouldn't call anthony a coward in the sense he would probably protect a woman from a mugging or something, just a coward for not facing real challenges.

Francis75
12-14-2008, 12:29 AM
I wouldn't say we are "Cowards" because we don't box, also I wouldn't call anthony a coward in the sense he would probably protect a woman from a mugging or something, just a coward for not facing real challenges.

I was being sarcastic because Twoohands was calling someone a coward earlier who's opinion he didn't like. I don't think Mundine is a coward either. I actually like Anthony and think he is a really talented boxer as he was a footballer, but the problem for him is that he very very rarely tests himself against another man on his skill level. If Anthony tested himself on a more regular basis against good level opposition then he would be widely supported by Australian boxing fans whether he wins or losses.

Infern0
12-14-2008, 12:49 AM
Ok mate, I wasn't having a go at you just clarifying my earlier post

twoohands
12-14-2008, 09:16 PM
We are all cowards who sit behind our keyboards, including you. Just because we are all "cowards" as you say doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on a sport we follow. We'd all like to see you step in the ring with Taylor or Kessler aswell.
Can you please explain your definition of "world class" please because the way i see it Mundine is extremely talented but lacking in the "very good wins" category. Imo he has 1 very good win (Danny Green). If he had 3 or 4 of these "very good wins" then i would also call him world class or elite class but his resume of wins doesn't warrant such praise.As i said, Anthony appears to be an extremely talented boxer but has yet to really prove this to the boxing world.

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Mate I do step in the ring, i do fight. Do you see me sitting on my arm chair bagging boxers from behind a computer screen, NO! Thats why im calling you a coward. Its good to have an opinion, but not day in day out bad mouthing blokes from behind a screen, when you clearly would never say it to his face.
Like someone else said earlier, if mundine beats geale next year use will still bag him, if he beat sturm use would still bag him, mundine would have to ko pavlic to shut use up.

Jambo
12-14-2008, 09:56 PM
FIGHTING. and if use all think he is fighting fighters below him thats a compliment in itself.

Although i am a mundine fan i would like to see him fight someone top 10 next year.

Mundine is worls class, i love the way he fights, hes got all the moves. The best in the country at the moment.

:patsch:patsch

You should talk less, you might save yourself some embarrassment.

All the moves :rofl

Best fighter in the country :rofl

Who is Vic Darchinyan??

Jambo
12-14-2008, 09:59 PM
I love you Scatter

I love you and a bottle of goon

Homo:oops:

Jambo
12-14-2008, 10:03 PM
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Mate I do step in the ring, i do fight. Do you see me sitting on my arm chair bagging boxers from behind a computer screen, NO! Thats why im calling you a coward. Its good to have an opinion, but not day in day out bad mouthing blokes from behind a screen, when you clearly would never say it to his face.
Like someone else said earlier, if mundine beats geale next year use will still bag him, if he beat sturm use would still bag him, mundine would have to ko pavlic to shut use up.

:patsch

Fuk your a drama queen. Give me a break. The guy is entitled to have an opinion. You don't have to be a top level fighter to be able to see clearly that Mundine is making a mockery of the sport.

If Mundine beats Geale, that would be a NORMAL keep busy fight for an actual top guy in the division. If Mundine beat Sturm, that would be a good win. No one hear would bag him, he got a TONNE of credit straight after beating Green and Soliman. Making things up doesn't help your arguement champ.

Your trying to go to extreme's to make your point, but instead your drawing attention to your own idiocy.

Kegsy
12-14-2008, 10:25 PM
:patsch:patsch

You should talk less, you might save yourself some embarrassment.

All the moves :rofl

Best fighter in the country :rofl

Who is Vic Darchinyan??
Clearly Vic is number 1.:deal

Jambo
12-14-2008, 11:45 PM
Clearly Vic is number 1.:deal

Exactly. I don't think people realise how big the win was against Mijares. Would have been the equivalent of Mundine absolutely dominating and then knocking out Kessler. Even then, Mijares was ranked higher p4p at the time of the Vic fight than Kessler has been at any stage of his career.

Kegsy
12-15-2008, 12:12 AM
Exactly. I don't think people realise how big the win was against Mijares. Would have been the equivalent of Mundine absolutely dominating and then knocking out Kessler. Even then, Mijares was ranked higher p4p at the time of the Vic fight than Kessler has been at any stage of his career.
The win against Mijares was huge.
Like u said its like Mundine knocking out Kessler or at least winning a near shutout.

TheDuke
12-15-2008, 03:00 AM
How do you spell 2?

Francis75
12-15-2008, 03:19 AM
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Mate I do step in the ring, i do fight. Do you see me sitting on my arm chair bagging boxers from behind a computer screen, NO! Thats why im calling you a coward. Its good to have an opinion, but not day in day out bad mouthing blokes from behind a screen, when you clearly would never say it to his face.
Like someone else said earlier, if mundine beats geale next year use will still bag him, if he beat sturm use would still bag him, mundine would have to ko pavlic to shut use up.

Mate you are making yourself look like a crying school girl :| with your rants. People bag Mundine because he is continually fighting cans when he should be fighting top tier fighters who are on a level playing field with his talent.I will be supporting him when he steps up but will criticise him when he takes the piss out of us all. No one will bag him if he fights the likes of Geale, Bika, Sturm, Pavlik, Abraham, Jermaine Taylor etc etc. Even if he loses he will be given credit by me for stepping up.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND TWOOHANDS. I realise that this is a difficult concept for you to grasp.

smellmyfinger
12-15-2008, 04:14 AM
I have a good idea, lets start another Mundine thread, we dont have enough.:patsch

twoohands
12-15-2008, 05:11 AM
Mate you are making yourself look like a crying school girl :| with your rants. People bag Mundine because he is continually fighting cans when he should be fighting top tier fighters who are on a level playing field with his talent.I will be supporting him when he steps up but will criticise him when he takes the piss out of us all. No one will bag him if he fights the likes of Geale, Bika, Sturm, Pavlik, Abraham, Jermaine Taylor etc etc. Even if he loses he will be given credit by me for stepping up.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND TWOOHANDS. I realise that this is a difficult concept for you to grasp.


Francine what am i ranting on about, im just sick of cowards like you who bag boxers from behind a computer, you said your self you have never stepped in the ring so you have no right to be calling boxers wimps. Fair enough have an opinion, but dont hang shit on boxers who actually have the balls to do things you only wished you had the balls to do.

Your name is francis need i say more!

twoohands
12-15-2008, 05:16 AM
How do you spell 2?


hey dick head , two

how do i spell the duke

Sox
12-15-2008, 06:01 AM
Francine what am i ranting on about, im just sick of cowards like you who bag boxers from behind a computer, you said your self you have never stepped in the ring so you have no right to be calling boxers wimps. Fair enough have an opinion, but dont hang shit on boxers who actually have the balls to do things you only wished you had the balls to do.

Your name is francis need i say more!
What a load of bullshit. :deal
Mundine is criticised by many because he doesn't back up his claims.
Sure, he has good skills, and he's done very well for him self, however what do you expect people to think of him when he claims he is the best boxer since sliced bread, yet is unable to back up his claim.
He is constantly making false promises and misleading the public.:tired

He is a monumental bullshitter.

TheDuke
12-15-2008, 07:21 AM
hey dick head , two

how do i spell the duke

Did you look it up? Too bad you didn't look it up before choosing your screen name LOL

Francis75
12-15-2008, 09:27 AM
Francine what am i ranting on about, im just sick of cowards like you who bag boxers from behind a computer, you said your self you have never stepped in the ring so you have no right to be calling boxers wimps. Fair enough have an opinion, but dont hang shit on boxers who actually have the balls to do things you only wished you had the balls to do.

Your name is francis need i say more!

Stop being such a sooky baby. :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

twoohands
12-15-2008, 10:07 AM
Stop being such a sooky baby. :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|




obviously looks like your doin all the crying

oh yeah real inteligent come back :happy

twoohands
12-15-2008, 10:10 AM
Did you look it up? Too bad you didn't look it up before choosing your screen name LOL


maybe you should learn how to spell first before you worry about my screen name.

ajay11
12-15-2008, 03:02 PM
Mundine is a Rascist, a coward and an idiot, and that's why I hate him

:huh

Racist towards whom? His mother is English, white as snow she is, and his father a full blooded Aboriginal....

A coward? I'd suggest that someone who stands up and speaks out for what they believe in is less cowardly than those that bag him within the safety of their home.

An idiot? Hands up everyone who has made as much money as Mundine?

JOSEY WALES
12-15-2008, 03:11 PM
Ladies and gentlemen due to unpopular demand he's back , The bookies mate ,,,Ajay :hi:

TheDuke
12-15-2008, 11:16 PM
:huh

Racist towards whom? His mother is English, white as snow she is, and his father a full blooded Aboriginal....

A coward? I'd suggest that someone who stands up and speaks out for what they believe in is less cowardly than those that bag him within the safety of their home.

An idiot? Hands up everyone who has made as much money as Mundine?

Warwick Capper made a bit of money in his hey day too. Are you gonna argue he's not an idiot?

Jambo
12-16-2008, 12:17 AM
Ladies and gentlemen due to unpopular demand he's back , The bookies mate ,,,Ajay :hi:

:rofl:rofl:rofl

pecks
12-16-2008, 03:19 AM
[quote=ajay11;3059914]:huh

Racist towards whom? His mother is English, white as snow she is, and his father a full blooded Aboriginal....
quote]Which makes Mundine look even more stupider and shallow.

It's very clear to me that Mundine is somewhat racist, and even promotes seperatism(is that a word?? :D).

He likes to refer to himself as a battler who learnt it the hard way, when in actual fact he had it much easier than he makes out.

During the lead up to the Green fight he summed up all Green fans as 'Upper class corporate white guys' and liked to associate himself and his fans as 'blue collared battlers'.

If you cant see that theres an 'us against them' thing with Mundine, then you are either stupid (which I don't think you are) or just simple don't want to believe.

ashley
12-16-2008, 05:23 AM
MUNDINE IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD....AND HE WILL SHOW IT WHEN HE FIGHTS TAYLOR IN FEB :rofl:rofl:rofl

Scatter
12-19-2008, 10:09 PM
I love you Scatter

I love you and a bottle of goon
everyone loves me. i'm used to it. it comes with the territory given my status as a god amongst men.

it actually HURTS to be this fucking good i'll have you know.

:nono Don't feed his ego, it's big enough as it is.
ego? me!!!??? whachutalkinaboutlewis?

It's very clear to me that Mundine is somewhat racist, and even promotes seperatism(is that a word?? :D).
firstly, yes separatism is a word. and your intended use of it here is grammatically correct. :D

secondly, if we're going to bag mundine, let's keep it real. i've always said there's plenty to criticise him for without resorting to hyperbole or making shit up.

he does not promote separatism ffs. he does a lot of advocacy work on behalf of less affluent aboriginals. i think the implied criticism of mundine whenever he brings this sort of stuff up is that as someone who is financially successful, he's too far out of touch of the real cause he's rooting for. this is of course absurd. it'd be liking having a dig at an intelligent person for criticising the education system simply because he's intelligent and therefore not suffering from the infliction against which he rails.

the fact that he has a rather sizable chip on his shoulder regarding this matter isn't ideal, but hardly unique among aboriginals of his generation.

He likes to refer to himself as a battler who learnt it the hard way, when in actual fact he had it much easier than he makes out.
really not overly aware of too many black fellas who had it "easy" growing up in the 70's and 80's tbh.

During the lead up to the Green fight he summed up all Green fans as 'Upper class corporate white guys' and liked to associate himself and his fans as 'blue collared battlers'.
hardly an incorrect assertion though, was it? for all people love to bag mundine's financial motivation in this sport, he's not exactly a corporate whore. let's not forget he started the Boxa line because he was being offered considerably less to endorse other products than was being offered to equally - or in a lot of cases, less - accomplished fighters.

for all the stick given him about the money he's made, it should be noted mundine has made the overwhelming majority of it by selling his fights to individuals, rather than through corporate endorsements and the like.

now, you can argue that is more down the the fact that he has the PR skills of the gestapo, but that is irrelevant.

If you cant see that theres an 'us against them' thing with Mundine, then you are either stupid (which I don't think you are) or just simple don't want to believe.
that comes back to that sizable chip on his shoulder. not sure why this is a criticism of him though. plenty of sporting teams and individuals operate with siege mentality. hell, sir alex ferguson has made a career out of it on the way to becoming one of the greatest football managers ever...

teke
12-19-2008, 11:27 PM
Super post Scatter which leads me back to my original statement - i love you

Infern0
12-20-2008, 12:55 AM
Of course Mundine is Rasist, except for the fact that only white people can be rascist.

If he was a white guy going on about I dont want no Blacks supporting me he would be imprisoned.

ipswich express
12-20-2008, 12:59 AM
ego? me!!!??? whachutalkinaboutlewis?

Willis... not Lewis... Don't misquote one of the greatest performers of our lives...

teke
12-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Willis... not Lewis... Don't misquote one of the greatest performers of our lives...:lol:

THN
12-20-2008, 01:45 AM
Of course Mundine is Rasist, except for the fact that only white people can be rascist.

If he was a white guy going on about I dont want no Blacks supporting me he would be imprisoned.
:good:rofl:rofl

heidegger
12-20-2008, 02:56 AM
Even if Mundine beat Geale and Sturm in 2009 people would still bag him....They would say Geale is untested and Sturm is the weakest MW champ....he needs to beat Pav and AA BE4 HE GETS RESPECT.

Oh come on. If Mundine beat Sturm or even lasted with Pavlik he would get respect.

You have a point, I meam Mundine deserves a level of respect for his career this far, no matter how far short of it's potential. But there is no point pretending that he hasn't chose to fight a dubious level of competition almost all of the time.

His only 'risks' have been onesw he needed to take in order to get a title. Otherwise his tactic has been to hold on to his status with the smallest amount of risk possible. His fights lately have been meaningless affairs. He can get big dollars and lots of attention in Australia due to his reputation. Unfortunately he has taken this option.

If everybody acks like this is o.k., what reason does he have to fight any relevant fight?

Also, if we act like his embarrassing shit takling is at all dignifying, he will just keep doing it. And that is not a good thing.

Therfore, Mundine is a coward and an idiot. Nothing untoward about saying that. :good:hey

heidegger
12-20-2008, 03:06 AM
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Mate I do step in the ring, i do fight. Do you see me sitting on my arm chair bagging boxers from behind a computer screen, NO! Thats why im calling you a coward. Its good to have an opinion, but not day in day out bad mouthing blokes from behind a screen, when you clearly would never say it to his face.
Like someone else said earlier, if mundine beats geale next year use will still bag him, if he beat sturm use would still bag him, mundine would have to ko pavlic to shut use up.


The thing is, everybody must stand in the light of the expectations of their profession. In my profession, if I do cowardly things then I should very well be made to answer for them. Mundine is a boxer.

Given that boxing is dangerous, we all have to give a little respect no matter what. but that only goes so far. Boxers are well compensated financially for their efforts, and ultimately, the sport only exists because the fans support it.

Criticism is important. There needs to be more people willing to criticize, it's because people shutup that meaningless fights get made.

I do understand that some of the criticism is not constructive though. So you guys have a point.

twoohands
12-20-2008, 09:57 AM
The thing is, everybody must stand in the light of the expectations of their profession. In my profession, if I do cowardly things then I should very well be made to answer for them. Mundine is a boxer.

Given that boxing is dangerous, we all have to give a little respect no matter what. but that only goes so far. Boxers are well compensated financially for their efforts, and ultimately, the sport only exists because the fans support it.

Criticism is important. There needs to be more people willing to criticize, it's because people shutup that meaningless fights get made.

I do understand that some of the criticism is not constructive though. So you guys have a point.



you make a good point actually....