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TBooze
08-10-2007, 03:58 PM
Here is my (partial) re-written history of how the Heavyweight Championship could/should have been:
I have listed all major fights and championship changes:
September 1892: James J Corbett KO21 John L Sullivan
January 1894: James J Corbett KO14 Peter Jackson
March 1897: Bob Fitzsimmons KO14 James J Corbett
June 1899: James J Jeffries KO11 Bob Fitzsimmons
August 1903: James J Jeffries W25 Jack Johnson
February 1906: Jack Johnson W25 James J Jeffries
July 1907: Jack Johnson KO16 Tommy Burns
July 1908: Jack Johnson KO20 James J Jeffries
February 1912: Jack Johnson D25 Sammy Langford
August 1913: Sammy Langford W25 Jack Johnson
May 1914: Harry Wills W25 Sammy Langford
November 1914: Sam McVey W25 Harry Wills
April 1915: Sam McVey W25 Jess Willard
February 1916: Sammy Langford W25 Sam McVey
September 1917: Harry Wills KO20 Sammy Langford
July 1919: Harry Wills D25 Jack Dempsey
July 1921: Harry Wills W15 Jack Dempsey
July 1922: Jack Dempsey W15 Harry Wills
July 1923: Jack Dempsey TKO14 Harry Wills
September 1926: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
September 1927: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
December 1928: Gene Tunney WU15 Larry Gains
February 1931: Gene Tunney WU15 George Godfrey
June 1932: Max Schmeling WU15 Gene Tunney
June 1933: Max Baer TKO10 Max Schmeling
June 1935: James J Braddock WU15 Max Baer
June 1937: Max Schmeling WU15 James J Braddock
June 1938: Joe Louis KO1 Max Schmeling
December 1947: Jersey Joe Walcott WU15 Joe Louis
June 1948: Joe Louis KO11 Jersey Joe Walcott
June 1949: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
September 1950: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
July 1951: Ezzard Charles DS15 Rocky Marciano
December 1951: Rocky Marciano WU15 Ezzard Charles
June 1956: Rocky Marciano WS15 Floyd Patterson
November 1956: Floyd Patterson WU15 Rocky Marciano
October 1958: Floyd Patterson WU15 Zora Foley
April 1959: Sonny Liston KO3 Floyd Patterson
June 1959: Sonny Liston KO4 Ingemar Johansson
December 1961: Sonny Liston KO1 Floyd Patterson
February 1964: Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) TKO7 Sonny Liston
March 1968: Muhammad Ali WU15 Joe Frazier
February 1970: Muhammad Ali DS15 Joe Frazier
March 1971: Muhammad Ali WS15 Joe Frazier
March 1973: Ken Norton WS15 Muhammad Ali
September 1973: George Foreman KO2 Ken Norton
October 1974: Muhammad Ali KO8 George Foreman
February 1978: Larry Holmes WU15 Muhammad Ali
September 1978: Larry Holmes TKO13 Muhammad Ali
September 1985: Michael Spinks WS15 Larry Holmes
June 1986: Larry Holmes WU15 Michael Spinks
August 1987: Mike Tyson TKO10 Larry Holmes
February 1990: James Douglas TKO10 Mike Tyson
October 1990: Evander Holyfield KO3 James Douglas
November 1992: Riddick Bowe WU12 Evander Holyfield
May 1993: Lennox Lewis TKO8 Riddick Bowe
November 1993: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
April 1994: Riddick Bowe TKO8 Evander Holyfield
November 1994: Riddick Bowe WU12 Michael Moorer
March 1995: Lennox Lewis WU12 Riddick Bowe
June 1996: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
November 1996: Evander Holyfield TKO11 Mike Tyson
June 1997: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
March 1999: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
April 2001: Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
November 2001: Mike Tyson KO10 Hasim Rahman
June 2002: Lennox Lewis KO8 Mike Tyson
June 2003: Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
April 2004: Lennox Lewis WS12 Vitali Klitschko
April 2005: Wlad Klitschko TKO10 Lennox Lewis
My dinner with Conteh
08-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Good stuff mate. I enjoyed reading that. :thumbsup
janitor
08-10-2007, 04:08 PM
A better question would be
What if every decision in heavyweight history had been fair and just?
Jose FM
08-10-2007, 04:17 PM
hehe, you have quite the imagination.
joe33
08-10-2007, 05:05 PM
That last entry would cause a few heart attacks in he geneal forum if you said that LOL
shelterr
08-10-2007, 05:08 PM
Many of the the alterations listed would have been killer, and however i agree with Lennox Lewis beaeting Riddick Bowe, i don't agree with Holyfield beating Lennox Lewis in almost any scenario. maybe in 1993 but 1996? Good post though...
Thread Stealer
08-10-2007, 05:15 PM
Entertaining read, this is how I would change it.
November 1996: *Evander Holyfield TKO 11 Mike Tyson
* denotes steroid-aided
Actually my biased history would just have Tyson beat everyone and retire as undisputed champ with a 65-0 record with 61 KOs.
What if every decision in heavyweight history had been fair and just?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Dempsey1238
08-10-2007, 07:46 PM
I still think the Rock beats Charles in 51. And why would he get the title shot in 51, when it was Walcott that was the number 1 contender?? Mostly when he flatten Charles in round 7?
Bill1234
08-10-2007, 07:53 PM
Here is my (partial) re-written history of how the Heavyweight Championship could/should have been:
I have listed all major fights and championship changes:
September 1892: James J Corbett KO21 John L Sullivan
January 1894: James J Corbett KO14 Peter Jackson
March 1897: Bob Fitzsimmons KO14 James J Corbett
June 1899: James J Jeffries KO11 Bob Fitzsimmons
August 1903: James J Jeffries W25 Jack Johnson
February 1906: Jack Johnson W25 James J Jeffries
July 1907: Jack Johnson KO16 Tommy Burns
July 1908: Jack Johnson KO20 James J Jeffries
February 1912: Jack Johnson D25 Sammy Langford
August 1913: Sammy Langford W25 Jack Johnson
May 1914: Harry Wills W25 Sammy Langford
November 1914: Sam McVey W25 Harry Wills
April 1915: Sam McVey W25 Jess Willard
February 1916: Sammy Langford W25 Sam McVey
September 1917: Harry Wills KO20 Sammy Langford
July 1919: Harry Wills D25 Jack Dempsey
July 1921: Harry Wills W15 Jack Dempsey
July 1922: Jack Dempsey W15 Harry Wills
July 1923: Jack Dempsey TKO14 Harry Wills
September 1926: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
September 1927: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
December 1928: Gene Tunney WU15 Larry Gains
February 1931: Gene Tunney WU15 George Godfrey
June 1932: Max Schmeling WU15 Gene Tunney
June 1933: Max Baer TKO10 Max Schmeling
June 1935: James J Braddock WU15 Max Baer
June 1937: Max Schmeling WU15 James J Braddock
June 1938: Joe Louis KO1 Max Schmeling
December 1947: Jersey Joe Walcott WU15 Joe Louis
June 1948: Joe Louis KO11 Jersey Joe Walcott
June 1949: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
September 1950: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
July 1951: Ezzard Charles DS15 Rocky Marciano
December 1951: Rocky Marciano WU15 Ezzard Charles
June 1956: Rocky Marciano WS15 Floyd Patterson
November 1956: Floyd Patterson WU15 Rocky Marciano
October 1958: Floyd Patterson WU15 Zora Foley
April 1959: Sonny Liston KO3 Floyd Patterson
June 1959: Sonny Liston KO4 Ingemar Johansson
December 1961: Sonny Liston KO1 Floyd Patterson
February 1964: Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) TKO7 Sonny Liston
March 1968: Muhammad Ali WU15 Joe Frazier
February 1970: Muhammad Ali DS15 Joe Frazier
March 1971: Muhammad Ali WS15 Joe Frazier
March 1973: Ken Norton WS15 Muhammad Ali
September 1973: George Foreman KO2 Ken Norton
October 1974: Muhammad Ali KO8 George Foreman
February 1978: Larry Holmes WU15 Muhammad Ali
September 1978: Larry Holmes TKO13 Muhammad Ali
September 1985: Michael Spinks WS15 Larry Holmes
June 1986: Larry Holmes WU15 Michael Spinks
August 1987: Mike Tyson TKO10 Larry Holmes
February 1990: James Douglas TKO10 Mike Tyson
October 1990: Evander Holyfield KO3 James Douglas
November 1992: Riddick Bowe WU12 Evander Holyfield
May 1993: Lennox Lewis TKO8 Riddick Bowe
November 1993: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
April 1994: Riddick Bowe TKO8 Evander Holyfield
November 1994: Riddick Bowe WU12 Michael Moorer
March 1995: Lennox Lewis WU12 Riddick Bowe
June 1996: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
November 1996: Evander Holyfield TKO11 Mike Tyson
June 1997: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
March 1999: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
April 2001: Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
November 2001: Mike Tyson KO10 Hasim Rahman
June 2002: Lennox Lewis KO8 Mike Tyson
June 2003: Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
April 2004: Lennox Lewis WS12 Vitali Klitschko
April 2005: Wlad Klitschko TKO10 Lennox Lewis
I'd agree with just about everything except for the Patterson winning over Marciano thing, I'd have Liston taking out Marciano in 1958.
Dempsey1238
08-10-2007, 08:03 PM
Oh yeah and Lewis beats Wlad by ko.
ripcity
08-11-2007, 03:37 AM
don't agree with every pick but I like how you mixed fiction with reality.
Marciano Frazier
08-11-2007, 03:46 AM
Here is my (partial) re-written history of how the Heavyweight Championship could/should have been:
I have listed all major fights and championship changes:
September 1892: James J Corbett KO21 John L Sullivan
January 1894: James J Corbett KO14 Peter Jackson
March 1897: Bob Fitzsimmons KO14 James J Corbett
June 1899: James J Jeffries KO11 Bob Fitzsimmons
August 1903: James J Jeffries W25 Jack Johnson
February 1906: Jack Johnson W25 James J Jeffries
July 1907: Jack Johnson KO16 Tommy Burns
July 1908: Jack Johnson KO20 James J Jeffries
February 1912: Jack Johnson D25 Sammy Langford
August 1913: Sammy Langford W25 Jack Johnson
May 1914: Harry Wills W25 Sammy Langford
November 1914: Sam McVey W25 Harry Wills
April 1915: Sam McVey W25 Jess Willard
February 1916: Sammy Langford W25 Sam McVey
September 1917: Harry Wills KO20 Sammy Langford
July 1919: Harry Wills D25 Jack Dempsey
July 1921: Harry Wills W15 Jack Dempsey
July 1922: Jack Dempsey W15 Harry Wills
July 1923: Jack Dempsey TKO14 Harry Wills
September 1926: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
September 1927: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
December 1928: Gene Tunney WU15 Larry Gains
February 1931: Gene Tunney WU15 George Godfrey
June 1932: Max Schmeling WU15 Gene Tunney
June 1933: Max Baer TKO10 Max Schmeling
June 1935: James J Braddock WU15 Max Baer
June 1937: Max Schmeling WU15 James J Braddock
June 1938: Joe Louis KO1 Max Schmeling
December 1947: Jersey Joe Walcott WU15 Joe Louis
June 1948: Joe Louis KO11 Jersey Joe Walcott
June 1949: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
September 1950: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
July 1951: Ezzard Charles DS15 Rocky Marciano
December 1951: Rocky Marciano WU15 Ezzard Charles
June 1956: Rocky Marciano WS15 Floyd Patterson
November 1956: Floyd Patterson WU15 Rocky Marciano
October 1958: Floyd Patterson WU15 Zora Foley
April 1959: Sonny Liston KO3 Floyd Patterson
June 1959: Sonny Liston KO4 Ingemar Johansson
December 1961: Sonny Liston KO1 Floyd Patterson
February 1964: Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) TKO7 Sonny Liston
March 1968: Muhammad Ali WU15 Joe Frazier
February 1970: Muhammad Ali DS15 Joe Frazier
March 1971: Muhammad Ali WS15 Joe Frazier
March 1973: Ken Norton WS15 Muhammad Ali
September 1973: George Foreman KO2 Ken Norton
October 1974: Muhammad Ali KO8 George Foreman
February 1978: Larry Holmes WU15 Muhammad Ali
September 1978: Larry Holmes TKO13 Muhammad Ali
September 1985: Michael Spinks WS15 Larry Holmes
June 1986: Larry Holmes WU15 Michael Spinks
August 1987: Mike Tyson TKO10 Larry Holmes
February 1990: James Douglas TKO10 Mike Tyson
October 1990: Evander Holyfield KO3 James Douglas
November 1992: Riddick Bowe WU12 Evander Holyfield
May 1993: Lennox Lewis TKO8 Riddick Bowe
November 1993: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
April 1994: Riddick Bowe TKO8 Evander Holyfield
November 1994: Riddick Bowe WU12 Michael Moorer
March 1995: Lennox Lewis WU12 Riddick Bowe
June 1996: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
November 1996: Evander Holyfield TKO11 Mike Tyson
June 1997: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
March 1999: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
April 2001: Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
November 2001: Mike Tyson KO10 Hasim Rahman
June 2002: Lennox Lewis KO8 Mike Tyson
June 2003: Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
April 2004: Lennox Lewis WS12 Vitali Klitschko
April 2005: Wlad Klitschko TKO10 Lennox Lewis Hmm... This is an interesting and well-thought-through post. Here are the points on which I disagree:
I tend to think Johnson would've beaten Jeffries in 1903. I highly doubt Wills would've drawn/won against a 1919-1921 Dempsey.
Why would you want Marciano to have challenged Charles in July of '51? He hadn't even had his first real big win yet at that point and probably wouldn't have been ready for a title fight with Charles. It was better that he fought for the title when he did. I also doubt Patterson would've beaten Marciano in '56.
Liston hadn't really earned a title shot yet as of April '59. Maybe at the end of the year or in 1960 would have been appropriate. I don't really think Frazier was ready for a fight with Ali in March of '68. Maybe a year later.
And your '90s timeline, while interesting, is very improbable- two heavyweight champions fighting each other four times, like you have Holyfield and Lewis doing, is unheard of these days, and once one has beaten another twice, they don't have a third fight. I'm also doubtful that Tyson would've beaten Rahman in 2001, especially in the 10th round, having such horrible stamina at that stage in his career.
TBooze
08-11-2007, 04:01 AM
Hmm... This is an interesting and well-thought-through post. Here are the points on which I disagree:
I tend to think Johnson would've beaten Jeffries in 1903. I highly doubt Wills would've drawn/won against a 1919-1921 Dempsey.
Why would you want Marciano to have challenged Charles in July of '51? He hadn't even had his first real big win yet at that point and probably wouldn't have been ready for a title fight with Charles. It was better that he fought for the title when he did. I also doubt Patterson would've beaten Marciano in '56.
Liston hadn't really earned a title shot yet as of April '59. Maybe at the end of the year or in 1960 would have been appropriate. I don't really think Frazier was ready for a fight with Ali in March of '68. Maybe a year later.
And your '90s timeline, while interesting, is very improbable- two heavyweight champions fighting each other four times, like you have Holyfield and Lewis doing, is unheard of these days, and once one has beaten another twice, they don't have a third fight. I'm also doubtful that Tyson would've beaten Rahman in 2001, especially in the 10th round, having such horrible stamina at that stage in his career.
Wills/Dempsey 1919/22 is pick-em IMO.
Yeah the way it works Marciano was not quite ready for Charles in July 51, thus the draw, but he was a top 10 contender at the time, and as Charles was 2 and 0 against Walcott, why the need for the third fight? (I know;))
Liston is a little unknown in April 59 (I took the date he made his reputation by beating Williams, but he had beaten DeJohn...
If Ali had continued, Frazier ready or not would of been #1 contender for Ali in April 1968 (Frazier does kind of get screwed in this scenario, sadly, no offence was intended).
As for the 90s I see your point, but Holyfield/Bowe fought three times, so four although pushing it, is possible...
Tyson was a bit of poetic licence. I have little time for him, but the scenario I used made Lewis/Tyson even bigger. Although unlikely I suspect the book would of been close if Rahman had choosen a Tyson match rather than a Lewis rematch, and Hasim's chin could let him down.
jhar26
08-11-2007, 05:19 AM
Here is my (partial) re-written history of how the Heavyweight Championship could/should have been:
I have listed all major fights and championship changes:
September 1892: James J Corbett KO21 John L Sullivan
January 1894: James J Corbett KO14 Peter Jackson
March 1897: Bob Fitzsimmons KO14 James J Corbett
June 1899: James J Jeffries KO11 Bob Fitzsimmons
August 1903: James J Jeffries W25 Jack Johnson
February 1906: Jack Johnson W25 James J Jeffries
July 1907: Jack Johnson KO16 Tommy Burns
July 1908: Jack Johnson KO20 James J Jeffries
February 1912: Jack Johnson D25 Sammy Langford
August 1913: Sammy Langford W25 Jack Johnson
May 1914: Harry Wills W25 Sammy Langford
November 1914: Sam McVey W25 Harry Wills
April 1915: Sam McVey W25 Jess Willard
February 1916: Sammy Langford W25 Sam McVey
September 1917: Harry Wills KO20 Sammy Langford
July 1919: Harry Wills D25 Jack Dempsey
July 1921: Harry Wills W15 Jack Dempsey
July 1922: Jack Dempsey W15 Harry Wills
July 1923: Jack Dempsey TKO14 Harry Wills
September 1926: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
September 1927: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
December 1928: Gene Tunney WU15 Larry Gains
February 1931: Gene Tunney WU15 George Godfrey
June 1932: Max Schmeling WU15 Gene Tunney
June 1933: Max Baer TKO10 Max Schmeling
June 1935: James J Braddock WU15 Max Baer
June 1937: Max Schmeling WU15 James J Braddock
June 1938: Joe Louis KO1 Max Schmeling
December 1947: Jersey Joe Walcott WU15 Joe Louis
June 1948: Joe Louis KO11 Jersey Joe Walcott
June 1949: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
September 1950: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
July 1951: Ezzard Charles DS15 Rocky Marciano
December 1951: Rocky Marciano WU15 Ezzard Charles
June 1956: Rocky Marciano WS15 Floyd Patterson
November 1956: Floyd Patterson WU15 Rocky Marciano
October 1958: Floyd Patterson WU15 Zora Foley
April 1959: Sonny Liston KO3 Floyd Patterson
June 1959: Sonny Liston KO4 Ingemar Johansson
December 1961: Sonny Liston KO1 Floyd Patterson
February 1964: Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) TKO7 Sonny Liston
March 1968: Muhammad Ali WU15 Joe Frazier
February 1970: Muhammad Ali DS15 Joe Frazier
March 1971: Muhammad Ali WS15 Joe Frazier
March 1973: Ken Norton WS15 Muhammad Ali
September 1973: George Foreman KO2 Ken Norton
October 1974: Muhammad Ali KO8 George Foreman
February 1978: Larry Holmes WU15 Muhammad Ali
September 1978: Larry Holmes TKO13 Muhammad Ali
September 1985: Michael Spinks WS15 Larry Holmes
June 1986: Larry Holmes WU15 Michael Spinks
August 1987: Mike Tyson TKO10 Larry Holmes
February 1990: James Douglas TKO10 Mike Tyson
October 1990: Evander Holyfield KO3 James Douglas
November 1992: Riddick Bowe WU12 Evander Holyfield
May 1993: Lennox Lewis TKO8 Riddick Bowe
November 1993: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
April 1994: Riddick Bowe TKO8 Evander Holyfield
November 1994: Riddick Bowe WU12 Michael Moorer
March 1995: Lennox Lewis WU12 Riddick Bowe
June 1996: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
November 1996: Evander Holyfield TKO11 Mike Tyson
June 1997: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
March 1999: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
April 2001: Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
November 2001: Mike Tyson KO10 Hasim Rahman
June 2002: Lennox Lewis KO8 Mike Tyson
June 2003: Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
April 2004: Lennox Lewis WS12 Vitali Klitschko
April 2005: Wlad Klitschko TKO10 Lennox Lewis
Great job, and very plausible.:clap:
Someone should do this for the other weight divisions as well.:drink
TBooze
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
April 2005: Wlad Klitschko TKO10 Lennox Lewis
Taking from ThinBlack's gimmick...
Wlad over Lewis? Even I am getting angry about that!
Five years on or what, what was I thinking?:huh
Foreman Hook
04-12-2012, 02:43 PM
Vitlay Clinchko gets to rematch Lenny Lewis, But Tinkerbell never gets to rematch Bummy Douglas???:huh:huh
TBooze
04-12-2012, 02:48 PM
Vitlay Clinchko gets to rematch Lenny Lewis, But Tinkerbell never gets to rematch Bummy Douglas???:huh:huh
Holyfield/Tyson was signed for June 1990. Douglas takes over Tyson's obligations...
mcvey
04-12-2012, 02:51 PM
Here is my (partial) re-written history of how the Heavyweight Championship could/should have been:
I have listed all major fights and championship changes:
September 1892: James J Corbett KO21 John L Sullivan
January 1894: James J Corbett KO14 Peter Jackson
March 1897: Bob Fitzsimmons KO14 James J Corbett
June 1899: James J Jeffries KO11 Bob Fitzsimmons
August 1903: James J Jeffries W25 Jack Johnson
February 1906: Jack Johnson W25 James J Jeffries
July 1907: Jack Johnson KO16 Tommy Burns
July 1908: Jack Johnson KO20 James J Jeffries
February 1912: Jack Johnson D25 Sammy Langford
August 1913: Sammy Langford W25 Jack Johnson
May 1914: Harry Wills W25 Sammy Langford
November 1914: Sam McVey W25 Harry Wills
April 1915: Sam McVey W25 Jess Willard
February 1916: Sammy Langford W25 Sam McVey
September 1917: Harry Wills KO20 Sammy Langford
July 1919: Harry Wills D25 Jack Dempsey
July 1921: Harry Wills W15 Jack Dempsey
July 1922: Jack Dempsey W15 Harry Wills
July 1923: Jack Dempsey TKO14 Harry Wills
September 1926: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
September 1927: Gene Tunney WU10 Jack Dempsey
December 1928: Gene Tunney WU15 Larry Gains
February 1931: Gene Tunney WU15 George Godfrey
June 1932: Max Schmeling WU15 Gene Tunney
June 1933: Max Baer TKO10 Max Schmeling
June 1935: James J Braddock WU15 Max Baer
June 1937: Max Schmeling WU15 James J Braddock
June 1938: Joe Louis KO1 Max Schmeling
December 1947: Jersey Joe Walcott WU15 Joe Louis
June 1948: Joe Louis KO11 Jersey Joe Walcott
June 1949: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
September 1950: Ezzard Charles WU15 Joe Louis
July 1951: Ezzard Charles DS15 Rocky Marciano
December 1951: Rocky Marciano WU15 Ezzard Charles
June 1956: Rocky Marciano WS15 Floyd Patterson
November 1956: Floyd Patterson WU15 Rocky Marciano
October 1958: Floyd Patterson WU15 Zora Foley
April 1959: Sonny Liston KO3 Floyd Patterson
June 1959: Sonny Liston KO4 Ingemar Johansson
December 1961: Sonny Liston KO1 Floyd Patterson
February 1964: Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) TKO7 Sonny Liston
March 1968: Muhammad Ali WU15 Joe Frazier
February 1970: Muhammad Ali DS15 Joe Frazier
March 1971: Muhammad Ali WS15 Joe Frazier
March 1973: Ken Norton WS15 Muhammad Ali
September 1973: George Foreman KO2 Ken Norton
October 1974: Muhammad Ali KO8 George Foreman
February 1978: Larry Holmes WU15 Muhammad Ali
September 1978: Larry Holmes TKO13 Muhammad Ali
September 1985: Michael Spinks WS15 Larry Holmes
June 1986: Larry Holmes WU15 Michael Spinks
August 1987: Mike Tyson TKO10 Larry Holmes
February 1990: James Douglas TKO10 Mike Tyson
October 1990: Evander Holyfield KO3 James Douglas
November 1992: Riddick Bowe WU12 Evander Holyfield
May 1993: Lennox Lewis TKO8 Riddick Bowe
November 1993: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
April 1994: Riddick Bowe TKO8 Evander Holyfield
November 1994: Riddick Bowe WU12 Michael Moorer
March 1995: Lennox Lewis WU12 Riddick Bowe
June 1996: Evander Holyfield WS12 Lennox Lewis
November 1996: Evander Holyfield TKO11 Mike Tyson
June 1997: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
March 1999: Lennox Lewis WU12 Evander Holyfield
April 2001: Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
November 2001: Mike Tyson KO10 Hasim Rahman
June 2002: Lennox Lewis KO8 Mike Tyson
June 2003: Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
April 2004: Lennox Lewis WS12 Vitali Klitschko
April 2005: Wlad Klitschko TKO10 Lennox Lewis
Intruiging .
lufcrazy
04-12-2012, 02:52 PM
I liked this thread when I first read it and I still like it now.
Would be good to see you do a version for lhw :good
ThinBlack
04-12-2012, 02:53 PM
Taking from ThinBlack's gimmick...
Wlad over Lewis? Even I am getting angry about that!
Five years on or what, what was I thinking?:huh
:good.Great List, but someone would've gotten to Holmes before Spinks did.
Foreman Hook
04-12-2012, 04:01 PM
Holyfield/Tyson was signed for June 1990. Douglas takes over Tyson's obligations...
It was a BLATANT DUCK, becuase Bummy Douglas imagined Holyfield was easy-pickings.
Waldo was stopped by Sanders in 2003, And Brewster in 2004, why does he deserve a Lewis fight in 2005??:huh
Anyway, if Old Lenny trains decently, he brutally KO's Wladdy with holding/hitting in teh clinches in the mid-rounds, after a slow-start.:!:
KINGOFTHE1ROUND
04-12-2012, 04:35 PM
I have no idea what this is about. This is not how "it should have been." This thread is how you would have liked it. Pointless really but it's nice to dream I guess.
lufcrazy
04-12-2012, 04:40 PM
I have no idea what this is about. This is not how "it should have been." This thread is how you would have liked it. Pointless really but it's nice to dream I guess.
It's actually a very interesting personalised viewpoint on how the hw championship would have flowed had the big fights come off.
Why you'd be negative about this thread is beyond me.
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