Amir KHan

[PIPO23]

This ****stani is very good. I saw, the mistakes he made against presscot. his guard's too wide. Buh apart from that, overall his speed and combination is outstanding. I was amazed! I see he keep his gloves up and tight now. I have become a fan. he is still 21.

[kel]

This ****stani is very good. I saw, the mistakes he made against presscot. his guard's too wide. Buh apart from that, overall his speed and combination is outstanding. I was amazed! I see he keep his gloves up and tight now. I have become a fan. he is still 21.


He's got good talent no doubt.

[WhataRock]

I still rate him despite the loss but his chin will never allow him to be a top fighter.

[pecks]

Still a work in progress for me, and needs to develop a smarter approach. He definitely is a top talent though.

[PIPO23]

oops. HE needs head and body movement.. His head still easy target. I am sure Roachy will have this fast kid move his head. I see the potential he could come at ya wid explosive speed.

[Rise Above]

Great talent but his chin will be his downfall.

[PIPO23]

We'll see. All I know is the kid getting better training sparring Mexicans etc. Alot tougher and a level higher than in Braitain, IMO..

[rabbitoh14]

ummmm i think you'll find he is English, not ****stani

[mundinechamp]

Excellent potential. He's only 21 and has fought in 8 scheduled twelve rounders and has a 15/19 KO ratio. So he's not fighting duds. The Prescott KO would have hit home hard and now it's his time to do the hard work and prove he can be a world champion and a superstar.

Big money is on the cards if he grabs a title considering the wealth of talent in the 135 - 147 bracket, Pacquiao, Hatton, Marquez, etc.

[Marcus]

i like amir, good young boxer, great speed.
if he can fight smart and protect his chin, he may have a chance at winning a belt.
i know its sparring, but i was impressed with him vs pacman.

[JOSEY WALES]

I still don't know how far this kid can go , he does have a rare talent and everyone forgets he still is what ? 21 ish ? training with Freddie and sparring with pacc etc @ the wild card won't improve his suspect chin but he will learn how to avoid being clocked on it easliy, its easy to think an olympic medalist will go onto become a world champ but as we have recently seen with Audley Harrison it doesn't automatically follow . its still early doors for this kid but i for one am looking forward to enjoying the ride , one thing for sure is he is seldom involved in a boring fight . Good luck to the kid .

[Aplin]

Very true, when you look at the best lighter weight boxers there are plenty of British boxers who never entered the olympics such as Naseem, Hatton, Junior, Benn, etc.

His chin is suspect probably due to all the amatuer he did as a kid, he went on sparring with a head guard until well into his late teens and then went fighting people who were never going to hurt him until finally one day he was hit hard enough to be KO'ed and wasn't ready for it.

When you look at Hatton, Calzaghe, Naseem, non of these guys sparred consistently with a head guard and were always known as being battered just as hard in the gym as in the actual boxing ring...

P.S. I am talking about British boxers...

[PIPO23]

I see this kid mixing it up in big league rapidly. With the trainer and training he is getting. Sparring those tough Mexican boys will improve him by 10 perecent.All his fights are in the UK. When will he take the show to the U.S? I hope soon indeed. Cuz, he is exciting to watch. I see the kid is killer with the chicks cuz he's a pretty boy. So, I know a potentiall PPV in the future.NO problem in that department. Cuz, he is fast and likes to mix it up.Neva boring.. it's wha boxing and wha boxing fans need for this dying sport of boxing.....someone dat can excite.Just gotta improve more and more.

[Aplin]

LMAO, and yes he is English, from Bolton infact... just up the road from Ricky Hatton!!!

[Infern0]

HAHA ****stani rofl

[PIPO23]

Very true, when you look at the best lighter weight boxers there are plenty of British boxers who never entered the olympics such as Naseem, Hatton, Junior, Benn, etc.

His chin is suspect probably due to all the amatuer he did as a kid, he went on sparring with a head guard until well into his late teens and then went fighting people who were never going to hurt him until finally one day he was hit hard enough to be KO'ed and wasn't ready for it.

When you look at Hatton, Calzaghe, Naseem, non of these guys sparred consistently with a head guard and were always known as being battered just as hard in the gym as in the actual boxing ring...

P.S. I am talking about British boxers...

chin? perhaps.. Buh kid is big 5'10? losing the weight to make weight may have something to do wid it. I mean da kid is big for lightweight. Is draining himself.

[JOSEY WALES]

Very true, when you look at the best lighter weight boxers there are plenty of British boxers who never entered the olympics such as Naseem, Hatton, Junior, Benn, etc.

His chin is suspect probably due to all the amatuer he did as a kid, he went on sparring with a head guard until well into his late teens and then went fighting people who were never going to hurt him until finally one day he was hit hard enough to be KO'ed and wasn't ready for it.

When you look at Hatton, Calzaghe, Naseem, non of these guys sparred consistently with a head guard and were always known as being battered just as hard in the gym as in the actual boxing ring...

P.S. I am talking about British boxers...

Yep , Calzaghe was down in Newport sparring without the headgear on @ a very early age ( Way before he went Pro ) Khan was protected to a certain degree before ****** had a head rush and stuck him in with prescott lol , as soon as i saw the weigh in i knew Amir was in the shit , everyone had been wondering how he was going to cope when he eventually fought a capable banger , well we soon found out ( but the writing had been on the wall for Amir a while Pre Prescott ) , training @ the Wild Card away from all the Hype bullshit will defo help his cause .

[teke]

Yep , Calzaghe was down in Newport sparring without the headgear on @ a very early age ( Way before he went Pro ) interesting as Joe also has a china chin

[JOSEY WALES]

interesting as Joe also has a china chin

Bit early to be on the Stein Larger aye mate ? :yep

[Watto]

Ive just returned from London and have watched his last 4 fights..He is def a good boxer,his chin is his only issue..He fought a guy Gomez before the Prescott fight and got dropped big time,he needs to just relax and not rush things..He will def be a world title holder,im a fan

[teke]

Bit early to be on the Stein Larger aye mate ? :yepChina is a bit harsh, lets just say shaky then. Last 2 fights of his and he is down from single punches :think:yep

Imagine what a prime Jones would have done to him if a totally shot dead corpse version had him in disneyland :hat

[JOSEY WALES]

Shaky ? Ya off your head mate , do you ever THINK before you post ? :huh , fighters that are unbeaten since the age of 15 don't suffer from Glass or Shaky chins , as for the Jones comment ? well we will never know who would have won Prime 4 prime as they never fought , NOBODY can say for sure what the outcome would have been , one things for sure the 2008 version got his arse kicked badly when when he tried . Ya'll Musta forgot ...

[lefty]

Very true, when you look at the best lighter weight boxers there are plenty of British boxers who never entered the olympics such as Naseem, Hatton, Junior, Benn, etc.

His chin is suspect probably due to all the amatuer he did as a kid, he went on sparring with a head guard until well into his late teens and then went fighting people who were never going to hurt him until finally one day he was hit hard enough to be KO'ed and wasn't ready for it.

When you look at Hatton, Calzaghe, Naseem, non of these guys sparred consistently with a head guard and were always known as being battered just as hard in the gym as in the actual boxing ring...

P.S. I am talking about British boxers...

Thats one of the stupidest theories i've heard on here, a long amateur career makes your chin weak? :rofl A head guard doesn't do shit apart from protect you from cuts.

[mundinechamp]

HAHA ****stani rofl

Well he is ****stani in the same way if you called Michael Katsidis Greek. But in reality, he's English and Katsidis is Aussie.

[ipswich express]

Never mind him Josey. He thinks with his mouth... which is where Roy Jones' balls are usually located. :)

The impressive thing about Calzaghe is how he gets up and usually wins the remainder of the round after being dropped.

[Marcus]

back on topic....fuck teke....shut up about Calslappy for once..and stay on topic!!!
im fuckin angry tonight ....cunts.

did any fucker out there watch kahn spar pacman??? what did u think??? i was impressed with it, i didnt think it would be shown.
the much talked pacman vs sturm or yuri sparring wasnt shown.
so was kahn a major sparring partner to pacman...??

next fight.. 4 months time...

zappa vs kahn....who wins?

[JOSEY WALES]

Never mind him Josey. He thinks with his mouth... which is where Roy Jones' balls are usually located. :)

The impressive thing about Calzaghe is how he gets up and usually wins the remainder of the round after being dropped.


:lol: I want Calzaghe to fight Dawson and get dropped in the first round , Teke can get his usual hard on & start screaming like girl "Oh Calzaghe is in for a long night" :lol: and then watch Joe take him apart . Dropping Calzaghe just makes him more focused and determine to put on a show , look what happened to Hopkins ( Dry humped ) and Jones ( clowned with ) what fighter with an alledged doddgy Vera Lynn places his chin six inchs from Roy Jones and taunts him ? ...............None.

[ipswich express]

back on topic....fuck teke....shut up about Calslappy for once..and stay on topic!!!
im fuckin angry tonight ....cunts.

did any fucker out there watch kahn spar pacman??? what did u think??? i was impressed with it, i didnt think it would be shown.
the much talked pacman vs sturm or yuri sparring wasnt shown.
so was kahn a major sparring partner to pacman...??

next fight.. 4 months time...

zappa vs kahn....who wins?

Are you serious? Khan would toy with Zapp. Lenny is a good prospect but his last win was against Tommy Browne, not a prime Antonio Cervantes. I have no doubt that if Lenny had fought Prescott, Limond, Gomez, Earl or even St Claire by now he'd probably have a L on his ledger too.

[JOSEY WALES]

back on topic....fuck teke....shut up about Calslappy for once..and stay on topic!!!
im fuckin angry tonight ....cunts.

did any fucker out there watch kahn spar pacman??? what did u think??? i was impressed with it, i didnt think it would be shown.
the much talked pacman vs sturm or yuri sparring wasnt shown.
so was kahn a major sparring partner to pacman...??

next fight.. 4 months time...

zappa vs kahn....who wins?

Teke has a severe case of hate within him when it comes to Calzaghe mate so he always has a dig at every given chance , he will probably change his mind futher down the pipe when he stops and actually thinks about all the things Joe Achived in his career compared to his girl Mandy :good

Anyway back to Amir khan , Khan was used in a major way in Pac's preperation as far as i can gather mate , i don't know if he will be fighting sooner than four months time i reckon if this is the case then its because Freddie wants a few months to take his old style apart and rebulid his game from the bottom up , khan was an outstanding amature but it seems his handles since turning Pro have been content in him keep some of these Amature traits in his armour in the pro game ,,

as for Zappa v Khan i can't comment as i haven't seen the kid fight yet but i will say this about that youngster Kickett , it looks like he made the same mistake as khan did , thats in he got caught trying to out slug a slugger whilst on queer street mate , Kickett will be back , as will Khan , both have a decent career ahead of them IF handled correctly .

[Kegsy]

Are you serious? Khan would toy with Zapp. Lenny is a good prospect but his last win was against Tommy Browne, not a prime Antonio Cervantes. I have no doubt that if Lenny had fought Prescott, Limond, Gomez, Earl or even St Claire by now he'd probably have a L on his ledger too.
Good chance we will see Zappa vs St Clair in the new year.
Nice fight for Zappa on his rise up the rankings.:deal

[ipswich express]

I agree and I think he'll win it at 140lbs. I don't think we'll see him in with a puncher any time soon ;)

[Kegsy]

I agree and I think he'll win it at 140lbs. I don't think we'll see him in with a puncher any time soon ;)
Having been down to guys like Junmar Dulog more than once means there will be no rush to face any punchers at this stage.:good:deal

[teke]

Shaky ? Ya off your head mate , do you ever THINK before you post ? :huh , fighters that are unbeaten since the age of 15 don't suffer from Glass or Shaky chins , as for the Jones comment ? well we will never know who would have won Prime 4 prime as they never fought , NOBODY can say for sure what the outcome would have been , one things for sure the 2008 version got his arse kicked badly when when he tried . Ya'll Musta forgot ...Well its not fucking Granite like you stated a few weeks back :lol: :yep

The Roy cheap shot was a retarded comment to highlight something you keep saying...

Yeah cant really stand Joe and that other pommy cunt is getting on my nerves aswell. You got me there :good

Marcus you can eat my cock you little turd, cry me a fuckin river :|

[pecks]

Joe's chin isn't granite, but he never seems to be dazed and there for the taking after he suffers a KD. Quite often he responds with his own onslaught.

His recovery skills are great.

[JOSEY WALES]

Well its not fucking Granite like you stated a few weeks back :lol: :yep

The Roy cheap shot was a retarded comment to highlight something you keep saying...

Yeah cant really stand Joe and that other pommy cunt is getting on my nerves aswell. You got me there :good

Marcus you can eat my cock you little turd, cry me a fuckin river :|

Grade fucking A Granite to be exact :deal

Retarded comments are to be expected whilst talking to you :yep

Well tell me something i don't know , As for the "Other Pomy" ? Me or Froch ? If its Froch then fair go fella , i dislike the cunt also but that don't alter my opinion that he would smash mandy so hard she would shit her draws IF they ever fought , If the OTHER was meant as meaning me , Well i like ME and want to die in my own arms one day .

Stop asking the Tassie kid for Blow Jobs over the Internet :lol:

[teke]

Grade fucking A Granite to be exact :deal

Retarded comments are to be expected whilst talking to you :yep

Well tell me something i don't know , As for the "Other Pomy" ? Me or Froch ? If its Froch then fair go fella , i dislike the cunt also but that don't alter my opinion that he would smash mandy so hard she would shit her draws IF they ever fought , If the OTHER was meant as meaning me , Well i like ME and want to die in my own arms one day .

Stop asking the Tassie kid for Blow Jobs over the Internet :lol:Actually my dislike for Joe comes from his fans. Mundine haters should identify with this cause Mundine has alot of far out fans.

The other pommy cunt is Froch :lol:

It could never be you Josie, you're getting my vote for Nuthugger of the year :yep Be proud

Back on topic (Sorry Cocksucker Marcie) Apparently Khan does have a shaky beared but it doesnt mean he cant be great. He has the talent alot of others dont.

RJJ and PBF (may not have beeen proven yet but i think he does) went through their primes years without it being tested cause they were good boxers. Can Khan do it, who knows

[JOSEY WALES]

Nuthugger of the year me ? :good However your the one that started out saying 08 would be Mandy's break through year , you just changed it to 09 six months in :lol:, Your fall out of love with Mandy has been a sad thing to witness during my year on Aussie ESB mate , if im getting nuthugger of the year then your getting my "when a dream dies " Vote , if your still on here this time next year and have fallen back in love with him in the unlikley event he actually wins a legit title @ Middle then you will receive my " Can't get Right " vote next year :lol:

Froch was always a choppsy Cunt mate but these last two weeks he has gone into overdrive with his bollocks and im starting to find myself longing to see Joe Calzaghe box the piss out of him or failing that even a forigner like Kessler . :-((

Amir Khan ? we will know more within 12 months , this next year will be crucial to him .:deal

[teke]

Nuthugger of the year me ? :good However your the one that started out saying 08 would be Mandy's break through year , you just changed it to 09 six months in :lol:, Your fall out of love with Mandy has been a sad thing to witness during my year on Aussie ESB mate , if im getting nuthugger of the year then your getting my "when a dream dies " Vote , if your still on here this time next year and have fallen back in love with him in the unlikley event he actually wins a legit title @ Middle then you will receive my " Can't get Right " vote next year :lol:

Froch was always a choppsy Cunt mate but these last two weeks he has gone into overdrive with his bollocks and im starting to find myself longing to see Joe Calzaghe box the piss out of him or failing that even a forigner like Kessler . :-((

Amir Khan ? we will know more within 12 months , this next year will be crucial to him .:dealI'll take the "when a dream dies Award" for sure.

I dreamt first nard would kick cunts arse then Roy would...Now i would even settle for Froch to do it :lol::lol:

Nuthugger of the year has to be you :good

Kessler is definitely going to put a beating on Froch if they fight.

[JOSEY WALES]

I'll take the "when a dream dies Award" for sure.

I dreamt first nard would kick cunts arse then Roy would...Now i would even settle for Froch to do it :lol::lol:

Nuthugger of the year has to be you :good

Kessler is definitely going to put a beating on Froch if they fight.

Just keep the faith Teke old son , Mundine will win a proper title next year im sure of it ..Your luck will change in 09 mate, then the shit will really hit the fan on here lmao i can just see it now , Mundine will be hailed a Three time two weight champ,your penis will be rock hard without the need of Viagra and you finally get to use it on Choc and Jen during your dream threesome :lol:

[teke]

Just keep the faith Teke old son , Mundine will win a proper title next year im sure of it ..Your luck will change in 09 mate, then the shit will really hit the fan on here lmao i can just see it now , Mundine will be hailed a Three time two weight champ,your penis will be rock hard without the need of Viagra and you finally get to use it on Choc and Jen during your dream threesome :lol:I couldnt care less if Choc wins a title or not but when people say Froch would beat him then i have to step up and clip some people across the back of the head :yep

[JOSEY WALES]

I couldnt care less if Choc wins a title or not but when people say Froch would beat him then i have to step up and clip some people across the back of the head :yep
It wouldn't even be close mate , 2 years back it would have been a barn burner but Mundine is done and dusted mate , he spunked it all away fighting PPVC " Pay Per View cabbies" when will your candle finally go out ? its staying alight in a hurricane :lol:

[ipswich express]

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Negotiations for Mundine vs Juan Carlos Rodriguez look to be under way...

[JOSEY WALES]

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Negotiations for Mundine vs Juan Carlos Rodriguez look to be under way... lol Careful choc :yep

[teke]

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Negotiations for Mundine vs Juan Carlos Rodriguez look to be under way...:lol::lol::lol:

[Texan Joe]

back on topic....fuck teke....shut up about Calslappy for once..and stay on topic!!!
im fuckin angry tonight ....cunts.

did any fucker out there watch kahn spar pacman??? what did u think??? i was impressed with it, i didnt think it would be shown.
the much talked pacman vs sturm or yuri sparring wasnt shown.
so was kahn a major sparring partner to pacman...??

next fight.. 4 months time...

zappa vs kahn....who wins?

Khan by KO, I too watched that spar with pac man , it was awesome. I reckon all the talk of him being finished is bullshit, the punch he got hit with and the punch that finished him would of had hurt most same as Kickett, shit happens a true champ goes back to the drawing board and comes back better a KO is not the end of your career. Alot of guys that go on even got knocked out in the ams.

I reckon Khan would be way to good for Zap yet, he was an olympic medalist at 17 thats classy.

[PIPO23]

Khan by KO, I too watched that spar with pac man , it was awesome. I reckon all the talk of him being finished is bullshit, the punch he got hit with and the punch that finished him would of had hurt most same as Kickett, shit happens a true champ goes back to the drawing board and comes back better a KO is not the end of your career. Alot of guys that go on even got knocked out in the ams.

I reckon Khan would be way to good for Zap yet, he was an olympic medalist at 17 thats classy.

Hang on! Zap is no slouch. Okay, he was dropped by langham and dulog. You may think he got a sus chin? buh, so does Amir.. the difference is Khan got sparked by a kid that has a 1 punch pop. I def agree, that umm AMir's speed and power will make Zap a target practice. Buh, I won't rule out Zap zapping Amir. If Amir has no headmovement. Bobbing and weaving movement he does present his head to be hit he also likes to mix it up. And one punch can do it..

:good

[ipswich express]

Zapp hasn't fought anyone near the class of Khan or his opponents...

[Jambo]

Zapp hasn't fought anyone near the class of Khan or his opponents...

Exactly. It would be an absolute mismatch at this point. He would have a punchers chance, which is slim at best.

[riggers]

Khan does have a glass jaw, its a shame because he has speed, talent, variety offensively , a lot of heart but no chin and a shoddy defense. His chin is made to look worse 'possibly' as he takes his shots flush, he does not roll with them or take any of their sting out of them. The ko loss may be a blessing as he will now have to adjust his style to hide his flaws.

Joe Calzaghe has been floored in his last 2 fights. This in my opinion is a sign he is aging, not a sign that he has aglass jaw. He was down twice prior to that in how many world title fights ? The first time against Byron Mitchell when he got up and stopped him in the same round. The second against ... name escapes me ....... Egyptian guy maybe in a fight that he was plainly bored to be there in.

Lacy, Kessler, Reid could all bang. And i don't mean like Otkke i mean really bang. Bang so hard Mandy would fight like Forrest Gump, but with less heart, like hedid against Kessler. Mandy is a tank an Italian tank , one forward gear 10 reverse gears.

Froch would stop Mundine. Or chase him all around the ring.

Sorry Australia your fighters are not top drawer right now, or ever.

[ipswich express]

Khan does have a glass jaw, its a shame because he has speed, talent, variety offensively , a lot of heart but no chin and a shoddy defense. His chin is made to look worse 'possibly' as he takes his shots flush, he does not roll with them or take any of their sting out of them. The ko loss may be a blessing as he will now have to adjust his style to hide his flaws.

Joe Calzaghe has been floored in his last 2 fights. This in my opinion is a sign he is aging, not a sign that he has aglass jaw. He was down twice prior to that in how many world title fights ? The first time against Byron Mitchell when he got up and stopped him in the same round. The second against ... name escapes me ....... Egyptian guy maybe in a fight that he was plainly bored to be there in.

Lacy, Kessler, Reid could all bang. And i don't mean like Otkke i mean really bang. Bang so hard Mandy would fight like Forrest Gump, but with less heart, like hedid against Kessler. Mandy is a tank an Italian tank , one forward gear 10 reverse gears.

Froch would stop Mundine. Or chase him all around the ring.

Sorry Australia your fighters are not top drawer right now, or ever.

Nothing like a broad generalisation to make yourself look really stupid...

[JOSEY WALES]

Khan does have a glass jaw, its a shame because he has speed, talent, variety offensively , a lot of heart but no chin and a shoddy defense. His chin is made to look worse 'possibly' as he takes his shots flush, he does not roll with them or take any of their sting out of them. The ko loss may be a blessing as he will now have to adjust his style to hide his flaws.

Joe Calzaghe has been floored in his last 2 fights. This in my opinion is a sign he is aging, not a sign that he has aglass jaw. He was down twice prior to that in how many world title fights ? The first time against Byron Mitchell when he got up and stopped him in the same round. The second against ... name escapes me ....... Egyptian guy maybe in a fight that he was plainly bored to be there in.

Lacy, Kessler, Reid could all bang. And i don't mean like Otkke i mean really bang. Bang so hard Mandy would fight like Forrest Gump, but with less heart, like hedid against Kessler. Mandy is a tank an Italian tank , one forward gear 10 reverse gears.

Froch would stop Mundine. Or chase him all around the ring.

Sorry Australia your fighters are not top drawer right now, or ever.
I totally agree with everthing you just stated APART from the last line , Despite its low population & geographical location Australia has produced a steady line of fighters that could hang with the worlds VERY BEST on occasions . Mandy knows this and his actions in recent years have pissed all over that great tradition , this is why i see dyed in the wool Aussie fight fans give him so much abuse , the man had a god given talent but chose to spunk it all away for cash , His Choice ? Well of course is was but its not the point . :deal

[pecks]

Heh. I remember Riggers from the olympics threads.:yep

If Leon had have kept up with his monthly thread highlights, we'd all be up to date on him by now. :nono

[teke]

Marcus why havnt you scorned me yet :huh

Chat later, love you

[JOSEY WALES]

Marcus why havnt you scorned me yet :huh

Chat later, love you :yikes WTF ?

[teke]

:yikes WTF ?We are loving people down here in Ozzie land.

I love Marcus like a brother, hopefully he doesnt take that the wrong way :p

[riggers]

I was only teasing guys. Mundine is a big disappointment in boxing terms, he has all the raw ability in the world and has opted for cash. When he is an old man he and his family wont be broke unlike many boxers so he aint dumb.

When i said top drawer i meant real elite, Fenech was. But Fenech was never undisputed champ. He was great but there are questions unanswered about him. Tszyu i don't class as an Aussie, but was a great fighter. But those 2 apart there are not any others i would consider toip drawer.

Amir Khan will not be a top fighter, Prescott aside, he got hurt by Limond and Gomez, one was no hitter , the other was 6 years past his best and fighting outside his weight class. Gomez also hutrt him bad to the body so holding his hands high will only solve half the problem. He will need to win his fights for every second of every minute of every round, because when he gets hit hard he is gonna go.

[LeonMcS]

What are the unanswered questions about Fenech?

[riggers]

Never going undisputed , not saying i don't 'think' he was the best at a weight at a time, but he never cleaned up and answered all challenges, so that always leaves a doubt. Thats true for 99% of champs, so not an insult. But unanswered questions none the less.
A fun fighter to watch though and he could probably have made mini flyweight if his balls weren't so big. Liked listening to him in the corner of your guy who got ko'd by Jones in the hands behind his back move, encouraging him to throw shots he said ' the worst thing that can happen is you get knocked out so throw punches'
Back to fenech, the unanswered questions is the curse of the WBC,WBA,IBF,WBO etc etc etc its too common for champs to never unify even a portion. So fans can think their champ is number 1 but cannot know for sure. I knew De La Hoya was too big and too skilled for Pacquiao, i knew Hatton would go down from Tszyu's first big right hand , but the fights proved me wrong.
So Amir Khan may win multiple world titles ( he may not ) but never be a real world champ, or even recognised as number 1 in his division, worse still may not even be thought of as top 5 in his division, but will still be called a champ.

[Rise Above]

I dont think there were any unanswered questions, he was a great fighter. He won belts in 3 divisions and should have been 4 except for the robbery against Nelson. He fought some great fighters and was a first ballot hall of famer.

How this means there are some unanswered questions about him is ridiculous. :-(

[riggers]

He was never undisputed champion, so other guys at the same time in the same weight class walked around saying they were the best. Jeff never proved them wrong and vice versa. I think he would have in some cases, but we cannot know. So what does this mean ? In an era of one title at each weight class Jeff Fenech may just have been a contender.

He was robbed against Nelson the first time, you probably thought he would set the record straight in the rematch. Nelson knocked him out. Proving my point, there are always questions. Unless you are undisputed champ there will always be some, some people think Calzaghe would have lost to Ottke.

So it might be ridiculous to you to say there are unanswered questions about fenech, but you cannot prove he was the champ in any division at any time in his career, just one of the champs.

[Jambo]

I was only teasing guys. Mundine is a big disappointment in boxing terms, he has all the raw ability in the world and has opted for cash. When he is an old man he and his family wont be broke unlike many boxers so he aint dumb.

When i said top drawer i meant real elite, Fenech was. But Fenech was never undisputed champ. He was great but there are questions unanswered about him. Tszyu i don't class as an Aussie, but was a great fighter. But those 2 apart there are not any others i would consider toip drawer.

Amir Khan will not be a top fighter, Prescott aside, he got hurt by Limond and Gomez, one was no hitter , the other was 6 years past his best and fighting outside his weight class. Gomez also hutrt him bad to the body so holding his hands high will only solve half the problem. He will need to win his fights for every second of every minute of every round, because when he gets hit hard he is gonna go.

So is Vic Darchinyan not an elite fighter... If so how the hell did he manage to dominate and knockout a top 10 p4p fighter in Mijares?

In regards to Fenech, your making yourself look really stupid again. The guy was a 3 (should have been four) weight division world champion. The difference between him and Calzaghe is that Fenech moved divisions, to take on bigger tests. Where as a guy like Calzaghe stayed around fighting the Byron Mitchell's of the world.

[Marcus]

Na im fine teke, im just a little down atm so i havent got the desire to fight.

Id still like Zappas chance against Kahn, mainly due to the chin of Kahn, it almost brings them on level par imo.

But Kahn is a great boxer, maybe too slick and smooth from most other young guys.

[the beaver]

So is Vic Darchinyan not an elite fighter... If so how the hell did he manage to dominate and knockout a top 10 p4p fighter in Mijares?

In regards to Fenech, your making yourself look really stupid again. The guy was a 3 (should have been four) weight division world champion. The difference between him and Calzaghe is that Fenech moved divisions, to take on bigger tests. Where as a guy like Calzaghe stayed around fighting the Byron Mitchell's of the world.

The only problem with this statement is a bloke like Calzaghe started at a high weight like SMW. Apart from going to light heavy the bloke aint big enough to keep going....... i.e Heavyweight

When it comes to smaller fighters like Pac Man, Fenech, Mosley etc, it's easier to go up in weight because generally they fill out as they get older.

More criticism shld be given to a boxer like Kostya then Calzaghe, as he stayed at 140lbs.

[riggers]

So is Vic Darchinyan not an elite fighter... If so how the hell did he manage to dominate and knockout a top 10 p4p fighter in Mijares?

In regards to Fenech, your making yourself look really stupid again. The guy was a 3 (should have been four) weight division world champion.

Vic is not Australian is he ? I thought , and correct me if i am wrong, that he emigrated there.

In regards Fenech he was a 3 and should have been 4 weight belt holder, not world champion, if you don't understand the difference it could be you who is stupid.

The fact he is a lock for the IHOF does not mean there are unanswered questions. The fact there are unanswered questions does not mean he is not a great fighter.

[ipswich express]

He was never undisputed champion, so other guys at the same time in the same weight class walked around saying they were the best. Jeff never proved them wrong and vice versa. I think he would have in some cases, but we cannot know. So what does this mean ? In an era of one title at each weight class Jeff Fenech may just have been a contender.

He was robbed against Nelson the first time, you probably thought he would set the record straight in the rematch. Nelson knocked him out. Proving my point, there are always questions. Unless you are undisputed champ there will always be some, some people think Calzaghe would have lost to Ottke.

So it might be ridiculous to you to say there are unanswered questions about fenech, but you cannot prove he was the champ in any division at any time in his career, just one of the champs.

List the other champions, it's not really a who's who of legends unless you count Joey Gamache as one...

[Jambo]

Vic is not Australian is he ? I thought , and correct me if i am wrong, that he emigrated there.

In regards Fenech he was a 3 and should have been 4 weight belt holder, not world champion, if you don't understand the difference it could be you who is stupid.

The fact he is a lock for the IHOF does not mean there are unanswered questions. The fact there are unanswered questions does not mean he is not a great fighter.

How about you explain fuk face... Tell me who these other credible belt holders were, and who he avoided whilst moving up.

If you can't, go fuk yourself :good

[riggers]

Why does it need to be a credible opponent ? Calvin Grove knocked him out.

If Tyson had never fought Douglas no one would be saying he would have lost to him.

No one would have tipped Phillips to beat Tszyu.

It does not have to be anyone favoured to beat him, he was never THE world champion, he was a title holder and a damn good one.

Was he the best at bantamweight ? Would he have taken Nelson at Featherweight ? Nelson and himself only went to Super Feather after Chavez moved up, would he have beaten Chavez ? He only gave Nelson problems in the first fight because of malaria, a fit but unfavoured Nelson creamed him in Melbourne.

FACT is he never went undisputed

[ipswich express]

If you believe Nelson was really suffering from Malaria in the first fight, I have some land that I'd like to sell you in the middle of this country...

[riggers]

ha ha. Still he got mauled and ko'd by him in the rematch by a fighter unrecognisable to the man he met in the first fight. And Calvin Grove ko'd him too, thats like getting knocked out by Malignaggi.

[Phil Austin]

Thats one of the stupidest theories i've heard on here, a long amateur career makes your chin weak? :rofl A head guard doesn't do shit apart from protect you from cuts.


Thanks for posting word for word what I was gunna post!

[ranser]

amir khan isnt 5'10! more like 5'7

[riggers]

Amir is much closer to 5'10 than 5'7.

As to the guy who says fighters should jump weight classes to prove themselves, the flip side of that coin is that fighters can jump weight classes to avoid fighters. Any fighter who stays a decade in his weight class as a champion has to fight the best contenders, the only other fighters that can be avoided are the other champions as they don't become a mandatory. At the end of the day anyone with even a basic boxing knowledge can see through how many titles a guy one or how many defences and realise its who was beaten that matters. And of course going undisputed means a lot too !

[The Jackal]

i can't wait for kevin mitchell to destroy him :bbb:!::bbb

[Wrangler]

Khan will, in time, establish himself as a top notch fighter. needs some more experience, but will not make the mistake of undersestimating opponents ever again.