What does Adamek's recent win say about Briggs?

[Coogee2034]

Adamek's win over cunningham was very impressive-dropping the so called lineal champion three times during the fight and winning a title in a second weight class....
Briggs gave him two tough fights-winning the second in my opinion-knocking him down in the second fight n having him out on his feet in their first encounter-and not being dropped or wobbled by the polish pummler

i think it is a real shame that briggs had to retire-because in those adamek fights he showed that he was a real gutsy bastard as well as a fighter that could mingle the elite level of fighters

i've said it before n i'll say it again..i miss briggsy!

thoughts?

[T.C.W]

Briggs was finished, I seen one of his last sparring sessions, all the years of fighting just took there toll, kick boxing and boxing.

[pecks]

Adamek's win over cunningham was very impressive-dropping the so called lineal champion three times during the fight and winning a title in a second weight class....
Briggs gave him two tough fights-winning the second in my opinion-knocking him down in the second fight n having him out on his feet in their first encounter-and not being dropped or wobbled by the polish pummler

i think it is a real shame that briggs had to retire-because in those adamek fights he showed that he was a real gutsy bastard as well as a fighter that could mingle the elite level of fighters

i've said it before n i'll say it again..i miss briggsy!

thoughts?

It says that Briggs isn't the 2 dimensional puncher that many labelled him as, and that although he got beat by Adamek, he was still very capable of being a title holder.
Briggs V Woods would have been a great fight to see. A very winnable fight too.

[JOSEY WALES]

Briggs was a very good fighter and would have given Clinton fits , Woods would have had his moments but i see Briggs as a clear winner in the end .

[toppity]

i miss briggs as well. but I'm glad to see he has accepted his time is up.

[ipswich express]

Briggs was a very good fighter and would have given Clinton fits , Woods would have had his moments but i see Briggs as a clear winner in the end .

I agree with you Josey.

[JOSEY WALES]

I agree with you Josey.

Having an early career defeat and two M/D losses to Tomasz Adamek indicates that Briggs could hang with the best there is , im a fan of Clinton Woods but reckon there was a window when Briggs would have edged him out ,it was about the same time as Clinton was being taken almost the distance by that Delesie kid , Briggs = Class ,Pity to see him finish but it sounds like it is all over for him .a real fight that would have been a decent scrap would have been v Johnson :deal

[the beaver]

Adamek's win over cunningham was very impressive-dropping the so called lineal champion three times during the fight and winning a title in a second weight class....
Briggs gave him two tough fights-winning the second in my opinion-knocking him down in the second fight n having him out on his feet in their first encounter-and not being dropped or wobbled by the polish pummler

i think it is a real shame that briggs had to retire-because in those adamek fights he showed that he was a real gutsy bastard as well as a fighter that could mingle the elite level of fighters

i've said it before n i'll say it again..i miss briggsy!

thoughts?


I think it says even more about Dawson.

[Kegsy]

I think it says even more about Dawson.
Yepp.:good

[Robot16]

IMO it shows that Briggs was pretty good.

I mean look At Briggs fights up until the Adamek one's.
He Defeated Drews, etc. and fights a stud for the world title.

While green wins a "world title" defeating Drews.

Imo it sucks Green wins a title for a win over drews but briggs did not.

[mundinechamp]

In some ways Paul Briggs career was a bit like Danny Green's but didn't end in a world title. Both short careers in terms of fights but had some defining bouts.

He's a gun commentator now and looks like he never even boxed, haha

[pecks]

Imo it sucks Green wins a title for a win over drews but briggs did not.Especially seeing how Briggs fought a better and more willing Drews.

Still, thats life. Some get lucky, some don't.

[Marcus]

i like briggs, he was a world class lightheavy.
but the adamek win says nothing about briggs imo.

[VIP]

I think it says even more about Dawson.

Exactly. Dawson totally outboxed Adamek and has had a couple of good wins since.

[rumour24tiger]

Especially seeing how Briggs fought a better and more willing Drews.

Still, thats life. Some get lucky, some don't.
And knocked Drews down about 5 times! whereas Green, by contrast, barely landed cleanly on an admittedly disinterested Drews.

Real shame Briggs didn't/couldn't have got a crack at Green for that WBA title.

Adamek hs proven to be an elite fighter and Briggs was just as good as the Pole. Briggs came so close to scoring knockdowns in the first fight, in a fight he was handicapped early by a cut caused by the head clash. 2nd fight, there was nothing to seperate the 2 and Briggs obviously gained 2 pts from the low blow and the knockdown.

Definitely, unlucky fighter. Nothing wrong with his ability level. I think he didn't throw loads of shots because he picked 'em carefully, for more damaging effect. What a mess he made of Adamek's face.

[rumour24tiger]

Exactly. Dawson totally outboxed Adamek and has had a couple of good wins since.
Yet Adamek hurt Dawson more than any other fighter has, and seemed to win all the late rds following the knockdown.

In beating Cunningham, Adamek has beaten a simlar, almost orthodox version of Dawson. Dawson and Cunnignham both very fast, throw similar long punches.

Tomasz may not have been fast enough as a light heavy but he's fast enough as a cruiser. I reckon Adamek's biggest risk is a big powerful cruiser like Alexeev.

[JOSEY WALES]

Yet Adamek hurt Dawson more than any other fighter has, and seemed to win all the late rds following the knockdown.

In beating Cunningham, Adamek has beaten a simlar, almost orthodox version of Dawson. Dawson and Cunnignham both very fast, throw similar long punches.

Tomasz may not have been fast enough as a light heavy but he's fast enough as a cruiser. I reckon Adamek's biggest risk is a big powerful cruiser like Alexeev. :deal I fancy Maccerinelli v Adamek would be a belter should Macca get passed Banks for the WBO , Unification of the IBF & WBO could possibly happen in 09 , :good

[teke]

:deal I fancy Maccerinelli v Adamek would be a belter should Macca get passed Banks for the WBO , Unification of the IBF & WBO could possibly happen in 09 , :goodthat would be a good fight

[ipswich express]

:deal I fancy Maccerinelli v Adamek would be a belter should Macca get passed Banks for the WBO , Unification of the IBF & WBO could possibly happen in 09 , :good

If that were the case, I think there'd be a good chance it'd happen in Cmyru or London. That'd definitely be one to get along to Josey!

[JOSEY WALES]

I honestly can't see Macca chocking twice mate this would be a tidy dust up , Macca can defo crack harder than Cunningham in fact if Cunningham could bang Adamek would have been on queer street a few times back last week mate . put it on the Haye v Vitaly undercard and i would crawl the 145 clicks to London for it lol.

[the beaver]

Yet Adamek hurt Dawson more than any other fighter has, and seemed to win all the late rds following the knockdown.

In beating Cunningham, Adamek has beaten a simlar, almost orthodox version of Dawson. Dawson and Cunnignham both very fast, throw similar long punches.

Tomasz may not have been fast enough as a light heavy but he's fast enough as a cruiser. I reckon Adamek's biggest risk is a big powerful cruiser like Alexeev.

Gee i thought Glen Johnson had him hurt just as bad.

[Robot16]

It says that Briggs isn't the 2 dimensional puncher that many labelled him as, and that although he got beat by Adamek, he was still very capable of being a title holder.
Briggs V Woods would have been a great fight to see. A very winnable fight too.

Yeah i felt he woul;d have defeated woods.

Also in the Adamek fights imo he did not fight hard enough, to win.

Especially seeing how Briggs fought a better and more willing Drews.

Still, thats life. Some get lucky, some don't.


True, but i am happy adamek has been doing well

[VIP]

Yet Adamek hurt Dawson more than any other fighter has, and seemed to win all the late rds following the knockdown.

In beating Cunningham, Adamek has beaten a simlar, almost orthodox version of Dawson. Dawson and Cunnignham both very fast, throw similar long punches.

Tomasz may not have been fast enough as a light heavy but he's fast enough as a cruiser. I reckon Adamek's biggest risk is a big powerful cruiser like Alexeev.

Have to look at it again but I thought Dawson did pretty well coming back from the KD.

[teke]

I remember watching the Adamek v Briggs 2 match a few times and felt Briggs could have got it. Briggs landed that dam right hand every time he threw it.

[Robot16]

I remember watching the Adamek v Briggs 2 match a few times and felt Briggs could have got it. Briggs landed that dam right hand every time he threw it.

same, i was away but set it to tape and once i saw after the kd, i knew he had lost, i just felt it, by the way he fought.
IMO he could have won too.

[Jambo]

Yet Adamek hurt Dawson more than any other fighter has, and seemed to win all the late rds following the knockdown.

In beating Cunningham, Adamek has beaten a simlar, almost orthodox version of Dawson. Dawson and Cunnignham both very fast, throw similar long punches.

Tomasz may not have been fast enough as a light heavy but he's fast enough as a cruiser. I reckon Adamek's biggest risk is a big powerful cruiser like Alexeev.

:rofl:rofl

This is complete rubbish. Dawson absolutely dominated almost every round against Adamek. He suffered a flash knockdown, got straight back up though and showed he wasn't hurt.

Then in the 12th he boxed carefully, as he was SOOOO far in front. Which is just plain common sense.

Cunningham an orthdox version of Dawson:patsch

Pull the other one mate. Geezuz.... What are you on??

[Jambo]

I had Briggs winning the second fight but only just.

Anyway, Adamek clearly wasn't the best light heavy in the world. I would pick BHop, Calzaghe, Dawson all against him. Tarver would ahve been tough as well.

If anything it says leaps and bounds about how sh*t the cruiserweight division has been for a long time. Look at guys like Wayne Braitheweight (spelling) and Gullemiro Jones... These guys are or were among the best in the division, when based on their skill set they should be upper level journeyman at best. Oneil Bell as well is technically awful. Imagine what guys like a young Toney, Jirov, Holyfield etc etc would have done to these guys. It would be embarrassing.

[Coogee2034]

in the two fights briggs imo it seemed like he could have won the fight if he put his foot on the gass a bit more
like in the 9th round of their first encounter he had adamek basically out on his feet-he talks about it in his book n he said he didnt finish him cause he lost that killer instinct...same with the second after the KD he should have been all over him-u could hear johnny lewis yelling at him to give some more