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Dave's Top Ten
08-10-2007, 06:43 PM
Both at the peak of their powers, fighting at 160. Who wins?
heerko koois
08-10-2007, 06:45 PM
Marvin by way of knock out..........round 5 ....
TIGEREDGE
08-10-2007, 08:05 PM
Hagler Late Or On Points
streetsaresafer
08-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Hagler KO by the 8th
Asterion
08-10-2007, 10:14 PM
Hagler.
KO Boxing
08-10-2007, 10:25 PM
Leonard... :cool:

This is the Hagler that fought Duran versus Leonard before the lay-off...

Although Leonard was no middleweight, just goin' against the grain. :good
Sonny Carson
08-10-2007, 10:45 PM
The 1987 fight show'd that in Hagler's prime he would beat Leonard. Hagler was slow didn't have his reflexes and still caught Leonard on the ropes. In a 15 round fight Hagler knocks Leonard out in the 13th round.
Suge Green
08-10-2007, 10:47 PM
I see it playing out as their fight went down, with Hagler pursuing Sugar Nose Leonard, as he bicycles through the night...only Hagler knocks him off of the bicycle. :smoke
Outboxer
08-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Yeah, 'cuz Leonard was fresh as a daisy, going into that fight. Hagler was in a wheelchair, it was totally unfair.
sues2nd
08-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Hagler wins this one worse than he did the one that they actually fought.....wait a minute.....

DAMMIT.
Illmatic
08-10-2007, 11:22 PM
Leonard beats Hagler at any point in their careers
Silver
08-11-2007, 01:50 AM
hagler, maybe by ko
brooklyn1550
08-11-2007, 01:52 AM
Hagler UD or late TKO
KO Boxing
08-11-2007, 01:53 AM
I don't see Leonard being stopped in his prime. Even if he was out of weight class.

Maybe Hagler wins this, but... he lost when they fought for real. :yep
sues2nd
08-11-2007, 03:21 AM
Leonard beats Hagler at any point in their careers

Yeah....except for when they fought...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
KO Boxing
08-11-2007, 03:26 AM
Yeah....except for when they fought...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Leonard clearly won
Lampley
08-11-2007, 03:32 AM
You have to reach back to 1980 or '81 to find the peak Hagler. And that version of Marvin -- or even the 1985 one, for that matter -- takes the fight to Leonard and beats him by clear decision.

I agree SRL will run and lose a lopsided decision before he allows himself to get KOd.
Illmatic
08-11-2007, 02:36 PM
Yeah....except for when they fought...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Im pretty sure it was Hagler who couldnt land a damn thing when leonard was on the ropes and went on to cry about it for 20 years
Dave's Top Ten
08-11-2007, 02:54 PM
Well, the punchstats show SRL only landed a handfull more punches throughout the fight so Marv must have landed something against those ropes. Leonard was so tenacious that it's hard to see him getting stopped in a fight in with Hagler even in '83. Can see him getting knocked down though and losing an exciting fight on points.
Thread Stealer
08-13-2007, 01:33 PM
A great natural middleweight in/near his prime should beat a great natural welterweight in/near his prime.

I pick Hagler.
Thread Stealer
08-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Im pretty sure it was Hagler who couldnt land a damn thing when leonard was on the ropes and went on to cry about it for 20 years

:lol:
Thread Stealer
08-13-2007, 02:29 PM
Hagler was shot by the time that fight happend. You could see he was beginning to slip in the Hearns fight.

Hagler had been on the decline since about 1983-84 or so, but look at Leonard. He hadn't fought in 3 years, just once in 5 years, and most of his career was at welter and jr. middle.
PATSYS
08-13-2007, 02:37 PM
In a normal sized ring, even the 1987 Hagler TKOs Leonard.
Thread Stealer
08-13-2007, 03:55 PM
True, but Leonard never lost his athletic qualitys or speed.

Leonard's stamina wasn't the same. He got tired after a few rounds against Hagler, then had to get his 2nd wind back.

Sure he used his legs a lot, but Leonard's stamina in the late 70s and early 80s was pretty amazing. He even finished the 15th strong in Montreal after taking a murdering to the body from Duran.

Leonard was still very fast though, and it was pretty amazing how sharp he was after that sort of layoff.