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the_what
06-22-2007, 12:02 AM
Castillo's purse to be withheld!
A Nevada Federal Judge today has granted an attachment in favor of Gary Shaw Productions and Diego Corrales’s Estate of up to $1,200,000 of any monies to be paid to Jose Luis Castillo. As a result, Castillo will receive $0 for Saturday's Ricky Hatton fight. Shaw and Corrales sued Castillo after he failed to make weight for their rubber match in June 2006. The case has not come to trial, but boxing attorney Judd Burstein was successful in having Castillo's purse held in escrow pending the resolution of the lawsuit.

tampa
06-22-2007, 12:03 AM
damn

theunderdog
06-22-2007, 12:05 AM
it's hard to think that castillo will fight for nothing but i'm torn because chico's wife and kids also need the money.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:06 AM
This is horrible. Gary Shaw is a fucking scumbag.

RAMPAGE0017
06-22-2007, 12:07 AM
Castillo's purse to be withheld!
A Nevada Federal Judge today has granted an attachment in favor of Gary Shaw Productions and Diego Corrales’s Estate of up to $1,200,000 of any monies to be paid to Jose Luis Castillo. As a result, Castillo will receive $0 for Saturday's Ricky Hatton fight. Shaw and Corrales sued Castillo after he failed to make weight for their rubber match in June 2006. The case has not come to trial, but boxing attorney Judd Burstein was successful in having Castillo's purse held in escrow pending the resolution of the lawsuit.



Damn..I wonder if Castillo is still sorry about the passing of Chico. :rofl

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:07 AM
it's hard to think that castillo will fight for nothing but i'm torn because chico's wife and kids also need the money.

Gary Shaw should give them money himself then, the cheap bastard.

At least wait until AFTER the fight to try and get the money. :-(

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:08 AM
Damn..I wonder if Castillo is still sorry about the passing of Chico. :rofl

That's awful.

But I did think the same thing:-(

4Rounder
06-22-2007, 12:10 AM
WTF??????

Shaw is a f*cking scumbag, instead of waiting after the fight to settle this shit he is now messing with JLC's concentration.

Arthur
06-22-2007, 12:11 AM
HOw the fuck can a judge withhold money from castillo when there is no ruling against him...the case hasn't even come to trial yet...BULLSHIT!

Chert
06-22-2007, 12:13 AM
this goes to jlc's motivation for the fight... how will he fight now knowing that he'll receive nothing.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:13 AM
Gary Shaw runs the risk of alienating himself from quite a bit of the boxing community for this.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 12:13 AM
Serves Castillo right.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 12:14 AM
Gary Shaw runs the risk of alienating himself from quite a bit of the boxing community for this.

He's whithin is right to do what he's doing. Remember, boxing is a BUSINESS as well.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:16 AM
Serves Castillo right.

Wait just a damn minute. Castillo was sued for not making the weight the 2nd time around, and everyone hated him for it. Yet Chico does to the same thing to Casa, and yet he was forgiven almost immediately.

The JLC bias never stops. :-(

Chert
06-22-2007, 12:16 AM
Serves Castillo right.
maybe. but shaw should've waited after the fight. this will definitely affect jlc's performance vs. hatton.

RAMPAGE0017
06-22-2007, 12:17 AM
Serves Castillo right.


He deserves to lose his entire fucking purse just because he couldn't make weight? He already paid for not making weight with the fair punishments of being fined, and being banned from the lightweight division, yet he stills needs to get fucked with for something he attempted, but was incapable of doing?

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:18 AM
He's whithin is right to do what he's doing. Remember, boxing is a BUSINESS as well.

If Castillo was fighting one of Shaw's other fighters, I GUARANTEE you he would not do this. It is a blatant and sad attempt to save his public image in the wake of very serious allegations that Shaw has done next to nothing for Chico's family, and also to fuck up a big money fight being done by rival promoters.

Castillo has no ruling against him in the suit, so them doing this is total fucking bullshit.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 12:19 AM
Wait just a damn minute. Castillo was sued for not making the weight the 2nd time around, and everyone hated him for it. Yet Chico does to the same thing to Casa, and yet he was forgiven almost immediately.

The JLC bias never stops. :-(

WTF does the Casa fight have to do with it? :patsch There's no bias from me on this.

Castillo's weight problem COST them an agreed upon third fight remember. They all lost out on money because of that. His actions voided the CONTRACT and is responsible. I know it sucks, but that's how the world works when it comes to business especially with contracts that they sign.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
If Castillo was fighting one of Shaw's other fighters, I GUARANTEE you he would not do this. It is a blatant and sad attempt to save his public image in the wake of very serious allegations that Shaw has done next to nothing for Chico's family, and also to fuck up a big money fight being done by rival promoters.

Castillo has no ruling against him in the suit, so them doing this is total fucking bullshit.

Has NOTHING to do with the situation...

C Money
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
HOw the fuck can a judge withhold money from castillo when there is no ruling against him...the case hasn't even come to trial yet...BULLSHIT!


AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, there should at least be an equitable payment arrangement even WHEN the judgement comes down. We all know that JLC didnt make weight and was wrong but this is INSANE. Imagine ALL FINES and PENALTIES in court cases due before judgement is made:lol:

To ask a man to risk his life and recieve NOTHING is despicable and flat out WRONG:good

RAMPAGE0017
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
I've been biting my lip out of respect for Corrales, but let's not let his death overshadow the fact that he was no angel. The first time Castillo didn't make weight, he didn't HAVE to take the fight, but he wanted that big purse, so he did. And as already pointed out, let's also not forget that Corrales failed to make weight against Casamayor.

Chert
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
Oh he wont fight. He has to think about what if he get injured? Not to mention all the people he has to pay in his camp, right now with him not getting paid he is drastically in the hole, finacially.
i definitely won't be surprised now when jlc's doesn't make weight for this fight.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
maybe. but shaw should've waited after the fight. this will definitely affect jlc's performance vs. hatton.

Lets hope it doesn't.

the_what
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
Castillo lost Shaw money buy not making weight and them canceling the fight. I think he has the right to sue. But I dont know about them withholding his entire purse right before a big fight.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:20 AM
WTF does the Casa fight have to do with it? :patsch There's no bias from me on this.

Castillo's weight problem COST them an agreed upon third fight remember. They all lost out on money because of that. His actions voided the CONTRACT and is responsible. I know it sucks, but that's how the world works when it comes to business especially with contracts that they sign.

But the suit has not gone to trial. Shaw is just being a total dick to avoid paying any money to Chico's family out of his own pocket. Shaw is a fucking snake, and has been for years. How many fighters have left him now? The list is quite long.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 12:21 AM
And it's only WITHHELD, not taken from him for now.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:23 AM
Has NOTHING to do with the situation...


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

4Rounder
06-22-2007, 12:23 AM
Oh he wont fight. He has to think about what if he get injured? Not to mention all the people he has to pay in his camp, right now with him not getting paid he is drastically in the hole, finacially.

And with 2 days before the fight that sure will make him relax.:patsch

He will most likely fight because he is a warrior but with all this variables I will not be suprised if the fight gets pulled off.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:24 AM
Maybe they will let him wear headgear for the fight?:yep


:lol:

C Money
06-22-2007, 12:24 AM
And it's only WITHHELD, not taken from him for now.


Would you feel better if your EMPLOYER or INVESTMENTS witheld your $$$$$???


I know JLC was wrong but so is this "judgement", what about Castillo's family??? There should be some sort of equitable payment arrangement, not this HORSESHIT!!!

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:24 AM
If this fight gets cancelled, boxing will have yet another black eye.

RAMPAGE0017
06-22-2007, 12:29 AM
Would you feel better if your EMPLOYER or INVESTMENTS witheld your $$$$$???


I know JLC was wrong but so is this "judgement", what about Castillo's family??? There should be some sort of equitable payment arrangement, not this HORSESHIT!!!


Gary Shaw deserves to be punched in his fucking mouth. He's manipulating a deceased man's case to fill his own pockets. And also, you know that scumbag isn't gonna throw a penny of that money to Corrales' family. And either way, this case is absolute bullshit. " Oh, I'm gonna sue him because he couldn't make weight, and I'm doing it for the memory of Corrales ". Fucking pieces of shit.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I dont know if Boxing get the black eye, but HBO will have been emabarassed and Gary Shaw and his fighters will probably be banned from HBO.

This is a very big event with lots of Cash on the line. Hatton's people will be enraged, and think of all the thousands of fans that will get refunds (and people coming from UK and Mexico).

Gary Shaw will never be forgiven.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:39 AM
Shaw must be a very greedy and short sighted man.

Over the past few years he has Lost Winky, Manny Pac, Shane Mosley, Jeff Lacy, and Chico tried to defect before he died. Jin Mosley has accused him of screwing Chico's family over ROYALLY, which might be why Chico was in such dire need of cash when he died.

huki
06-22-2007, 12:42 AM
Right now, the focus shouldn't be on whether the case is wrong or right. It should be on the fact that Gary Shaw is a fatfuck asshole. He could have pulled this after the fight happened, not before. He's not only screwing over Castillo here. He's screwing over everyone. All of the people attending the fight, all of the people paying to watch it on TV, the fighters and their camps, etc. He's even making the Corrales family look bad. There is absolutely no reason why he had to pull this shit right before Castillo's big fight and couldn't wait until after it happened.

SweetScienceFan
06-22-2007, 12:45 AM
This is stupid. First of all, I love Chico, and wish his family the best, but the man had plenty of money. It is rather retarded to be taking Castillo's purse for this fight, especially given the fact that Corrales turned around himself and was unable to make weight.

Boom_Boom
06-22-2007, 12:49 AM
3 days before the fight....

Oh boy what a freaking coincidence :roll: :roll: :roll:

compukiller
06-22-2007, 12:49 AM
This is stupid. First of all, I love Chico, and wish his family the best, but the man had plenty of money. It is rather retarded to be taking Castillo's purse for this fight, especially given the fact that Corrales turned around himself and was unable to make weight.

That's the the thing, Chico's family did not have plenty of money. One of the reasons is that Shaw was apparently screwing him out of quite a bit of it.

Jose FM
06-22-2007, 12:55 AM
HOw the fuck can a judge withhold money from castillo when there is no ruling against him...the case hasn't even come to trial yet...BULLSHIT!
Well eventhough i hate the decision i would know why a judge would can to this decision, (because the case is pending)

Jose FM
06-22-2007, 12:57 AM
Gary Shaw runs the risk of alienating himself from quite a bit of the boxing community for this.
Absolutely!

SweetScienceFan
06-22-2007, 12:57 AM
That's the the thing, Chico's family did not have plenty of money. One of the reasons is that Shaw was apparently screwing him out of quite a bit of it.
I don't buy it. Their idea of plenty of money and ours is quite different. Along with all of the donation funds that have been set up in his name, this is bastardizing the entire situation. Chico couldn't make weight on the scales as well before, should Casamayor now sue Chico's family for damages?

If Gary Shaw is so worried about Chico's family, he has enough money to take care of them himself. I guess what is pissing me off the most is that they are putting a negative light around his death. Chico was great for us fans, and we all appreciate what he did for us in the ring. He lived wrecklessly which is the same characteristic that made him such a great crowd pleaser in the ring. He got entirely too drunk and killed himself on his motorcycle. I can look past the mistake, and still show him love and respect for what he did in the ring. Now, all of this is putting a big negative spotlight around his death, and making it look like people are just trying to get paid.

Jose FM
06-22-2007, 12:58 AM
Serves Castillo right.
Maybe so, but cmon the timing is horrible, wtf is he thinkin?

thunder06
06-22-2007, 01:01 AM
lmao this is the funniest thing i've heard all day.

Shotgun
06-22-2007, 01:05 AM
It is rather retarded to be taking Castillo's purse for this fight, especially given the fact that Corrales turned around himself and was unable to make weight.
But when Chico failed to make weight, it wasn't in the contract that the fight would be cancelled. The fight still went on and everybody got paid, just like the second Corrales-Castillo fight. Nobody lost money because Chico showed up overweight, just like nobody lost money when Castillo showed up overweight in the Chico rematch

The third Corrales-Castillo fight was cancelled because the contract stipulated that Castillo had to make weight or the fight was off. He didn't, and as a result the fight was cancelled. Millions were lost for Diego Corrales, the promoters and the venue that was hosting the fight, not to mention Castillo himself. A lot of people got screwed by him not making weight for the third fight

onepunch.net
06-22-2007, 01:09 AM
There is no comparison here with the Corrales-Casamayor situation. In the Casamayor fight, Casamayor accepted a "cash settlement" from Chico's purse, and the fight went forward. In the case of Corrales-Castillo 3, there was no "settlement" and the fight did not happen. Alot of money was lost by everyone involved. I guess there wasn't enough money in the Castillo-Ngoudjo fight, or they would have attached to that fight when it happened.

What could have happened here if this was forseeable, is that Arum could have done a bout agreement with Castillo for like 10 grand, and then did a provision of services agreement with HBO for the rest, and held it in trust for Castillo and paid it out later as a "performance bonus" or something. Nobody could have touched it.
What will probably end up happening here is that Arum will front Castillo his expected purse on a promissory note so that Jose is not focused on this money thing, and Arum will get it back later after the court case, or Castillo's next fight or whatever.....

SweetScienceFan
06-22-2007, 01:11 AM
But when Chico failed to make weight, it wasn't in the contract that the fight would be cancelled. The fight still went on and everybody got paid, just like the second Corrales-Castillo fight. Nobody lost money because Chico showed up overweight, just like nobody lost money when Castillo showed up overweight in the Chico rematch

The second Corrales-Castillo fight was cancelled because the contract stipulated that Castillo had to make weight or the fight was off. He didn't, and as a result the fight was cancelled. Millions were lost for Diego Corrales, the promoters and the venue that was hosting the fight, not to mention Castillo himself. A lot of people got screwed by him not making weight for the third fight
They lost money because they decided not to go forth with the fight. Casamayor could have refused to fight an overweight Corrales as well, causing money to be lost. That is part of the game. Sometimes, you are going to take a loss. This isn't the first person to go through a training camp only for the fight to fall through for one reason or another. Castillo could have pulled out of the fight 1 day before the weigh ins for an injured rib and saved himself the money. What would have been the difference? If they were so sure that Castillo wasn't going to make weight again, then they shouldn't have agreed to a 3rd fight. Also if they were so appauled to fighters not being able to make weight that they cancel fights and sue the fighters, then maybe they should have been professional enough not to turn around and do the same thing directly afterwards to their opponent?

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:11 AM
Would you feel better if your EMPLOYER or INVESTMENTS witheld your $$$$$???


I know JLC was wrong but so is this "judgement", what about Castillo's family??? There should be some sort of equitable payment arrangement, not this HORSESHIT!!!

How we feel doesn't matter. Feelings only cloud judgment in things like this.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:11 AM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Well, it doesn't. :roll:

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:16 AM
Well, it doesn't. :roll:

You just keep thinking that, sweetie:yep

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:24 AM
You just keep thinking that, sweetie:yep

Oh really? Here's you're fanboy rant "sweetie":

Originally Posted by compukiller
If Castillo was fighting one of Shaw's other fighters, I GUARANTEE you he would not do this. It is a blatant and sad attempt to save his public image in the wake of very serious allegations that Shaw has done next to nothing for Chico's family, and also to fuck up a big money fight being done by rival promoters.

Castillo has no ruling against him in the suit, so them doing this is total fucking bullshit.
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And you had some point right? Sorry, he's NOT fighting another Shaw fighter. :roll:

Sure it's fucked up, but it's NOT Shaws fault Castillo couldn't make the fuckin weight.

Promoters may fuck boxers out of money, but it's usually becuase the boxers do not understand what they are signing. If Shaw did something illegal, that's one thing. I say, "Don't fuckin sign something you don't understand". Ever heard of common sense?:deal

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:30 AM
Oh really? Here's you're fanboy rant "sweetie":

Originally Posted by compukiller
If Castillo was fighting one of Shaw's other fighters, I GUARANTEE you he would not do this. It is a blatant and sad attempt to save his public image in the wake of very serious allegations that Shaw has done next to nothing for Chico's family, and also to fuck up a big money fight being done by rival promoters.

Castillo has no ruling against him in the suit, so them doing this is total fucking bullshit.
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And you had some point right? Sorry, he's NOT fighting another Shaw fighter. :roll:

Sure it's fucked up, but it's NOT Shaws fault Castillo couldn't make the fuckin weight.

Promoters may fuck boxers out of money, but it's usually becuase the boxers do not understand what they are signing. If Shaw did something illegal, that's one thing. I say, "Don't fuckin sign something you don't understand". Ever heard of common sense?:deal

What you fail to see is that Shaw is politically fucking himself over by doing this. He is surely angering HBO (not a good idea to anger them as they are the biggest network for boxing) and also dragging the name of his recently deceased fighter through the mud. He should wait until after the fight at the very least. He could still get his money.

And also, Gary Shaw has been accused of dirty dealing by more than one person. This is yet another example of a man that is part of a cancer on this sport. Gary Shaw says he is doing it for Chico's family, but that is bullshit.

And you want to call me a fanboy? I bet you if this was your hero Margo in JLC's position, you would start a fucking riot. :deal

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:33 AM
What you fail to see is that Shaw is politically fucking himself over by doing this. He is surely angering HBO (not a good idea to anger them as they are the biggest network for boxing) and also dragging the name of his recently deceased fighter through the mud. He should wait until after the fight at the very least. He could still get his money,

And also, Gary Shaw has been accused of dirty dealing by more than one person. This is yet another example of a man that is part of a cancer on this sport. Gary Shaw says he is doing it for Chico's family, but that is bullshit.

And you want to call me a fanboy? I bet you if this was your hero Margo in JLC's position, you would start a fucking riot. :deal
Well, you're sporting a Castillo avatar and taking this personal. If you aren't a fanboy, then don't act like one. :deal

And if it was Margarito, I'd say the same thing. If you sign a contract, better make sure you abide by it. I don't let my feeling make my decisions. Lucky for me, Margarito stays in shape year round and is a consumate professional.:D

I do agree this is awful fucked up of Shaw. Especially the timing. And if it hurts him, then he shoulda known better. Anyway, Castillo STILL can get his money. And I doubt Castillo is in the poor house.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:37 AM
Well, you're sporting a Castillo avatar and taking this personal. If you aren't a fanboy, then don't act like one. :deal

And if it was Margarito, I'd say the same thing. If you sign a contract, better make sure you abide by it. I don't let my feeling make my decisions. Lucky for me, Margarito stays in shape year round and is a consumate professional.:D

I do agree this is awful fucked up of Shaw. Especially the timing. And if it hurts him, then he shoulda known better. Anyway, Castillo STILL can get his money. And I doubt Castillo is in the poor house.

You surely must admit that there is a bias against JLC in the boxing media. He has always been underrated, even with several quality wins on his record, and has been the most maligned fighter to not make weight in recent history.

the_what
06-22-2007, 01:38 AM
You surely must admit that there is a bias against JLC in the boxing media. He has always been underrated, even with several quality wins on his record, and has been the most maligned fighter to not make weight in recent history.

I think it has something to do with him not making weight 3 fights in a row.

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 01:40 AM
fuck shaw, just by the way he looks you can tell he's a greedy bitch...he never even paid castillo the one hundred thousand dollars for knocking out chico.............i swear, i dont wish bad for anybody but this is one fucken pig i wouldn't mind seeing get stomped to death by all the boxers he's burned.....fucken fat pig is now entering mma cause he knows his respect in the boxing game is soon to hit rockbottom...

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:40 AM
I think it has something to do with him not making weight 3 fights in a row.

It was only twice. But people have had an unatural dislike for Castillo for years.

the_what
06-22-2007, 01:42 AM
It was only twice. But people have had an unatural dislike for Castillo for years.

Corrales2, Reyes, Corrales3

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:43 AM
I also find it funny how people here rag on Castillo for not making weight, yet Zab Judah gets elevated to sainthood for not only getting brutally stopped by Cotto, but for also not winning a professional fight in YEARS!!!

Castillo could KO Cotto in 1 rd, and he would still be regarded as a villainous scourge.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:43 AM
You surely must admit that there is a bias against JLC in the boxing media. He has always been underrated, even with several quality wins on his record, and has been the most maligned fighter to not make weight in recent history.

If there is a bias, and I'm not saying there isn't, I really haven't seen it. To me, he just isn't a big name. Je's tough as shit and consistent, but hasn't really gained a huge following in the states.

The whole weight thing really bothered people, and rightfully so. He fucked Corrales in the rematch (Corrales being the warrior is the only reason that fight went on), then fans in the third. :deal

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:44 AM
Corrales2, Reyes, Corrales3

Reyes was at a 138 catchweight, which Castillo made.

It was twice. 2 times too many, but it was twice.

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 01:45 AM
Corrales2, Reyes, Corrales3

the reyes fight was at a catch weight..

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:46 AM
I also find it funny how people here rag on Castillo for not making weight, yet Zab Judah gets elevated to sainthood for not only getting brutally stopped by Cotto, but for also not winning a professional fight in YEARS!!!

Castillo could KO Cotto in 1 rd, and he would still be regarded as a villainous scourge.

:huh

You're comparing a couple thigns that aren't even comparable. I always hated Zab, but he won me over by showing toughness and never stopped trying to win. He also could have acted a fool after the low blow. But he didn't.

Castillo failing to make weight and his teams actions, and then the cancellation of the THIRD fight were bad for the sport.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:49 AM
If there is a bias, and I'm not saying there isn't, I really haven't seen it. To me, he just isn't a big name. Je's tough as shit and consistent, but hasn't really gained a huge following in the states.

The whole weight thing really bothered people, and rightfully so. He fucked Corrales in the rematch (Corrales being the warrior is the only reason that fight went on), then fans in the third. :deal

Yes, but don't you find it funny that Chico did not recieve anywhere near the shit that JLC did for the 2nd Chico fight?

The 3rd Chico fight, I can understand. But Castillo is ALWAYS the underdog, which at this point is a bit ridiculous considering his accomplishments. People on here and in the media brush aside his resume, and constanly pay attention to the weight thing. The guy doesn't look great against Ngdou, and all of a sudden he is old and finished. Never Mind the fact that he has only lost one fight in the last several years, and that was one of the greatest fights in the history of the sport.

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:52 AM
:huh

You're comparing a couple thigns that aren't even comparable. I always hated Zab, but he won me over by showing toughness and never stopped trying to win. He also could have acted a fool after the low blow. But he didn't.

Castillo failing to make weight and his teams actions, and then the cancellation of the THIRD fight were bad for the sport.

But Zab gets a pass from most because of his "talent". Several of the things he has done has been bad for the sport as well (attacking Jay nady, the riot at the PBF fight, consistenly getting his ass kicked, etc.)

If JLC had done any of these things, he would be crucified. But all Zab gets is more title shots.

Lance_Uppercut
06-22-2007, 01:52 AM
Yes, but don't you find it funny that Chico did not recieve anywhere near the shit that JLC did for the 2nd Chico fight?

The 3rd Chico fight, I can understand. But Castillo is ALWAYS the underdog, which at this point is a bit ridiculous considering his accomplishments. People on here and in the media brush aside his resume, and constanly pay attention to the weight thing. The guy doesn't look great against Ngdou, and all of a sudden he is old and finished. Never Mind the fact that he has only lost one fight in the last several years, and that was one of the greatest fights in the history of the sport.

I remember a bunch of threads started on how Chico was a hypocrite.

Chico also didn't have someone on his team stick their foot UNDER THE SCALE TO INTENTIONALLY CHEAT. :-( Or come back after trying to lose the few pounds weight WEIGHING MORE. :deal

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:54 AM
I remember a bunch of threads started on how Chico was a hypocrite.

Chico also didn't have someone on his team stick their foot UNDER THE SCALE TO INTENTIONALLY CHEAT. :-( Or come back after trying to lose the few pounds weight WEIGHING MORE. :deal

True indeed, but he still came nowhere close to 135. He also lost the ensuing fight.

At least castillo won his.

Also, there were many threads on here feeling sorry for Chico and saying he lost the fight because he was weight drained.

Shotgun
06-22-2007, 01:56 AM
Yes, but don't you find it funny that Chico did not recieve anywhere near the shit that JLC did for the 2nd Chico fight?


Not really, because Chico lost the fight :lol:

I'm sure if he'd won there would've been a lot more outrage about it

compukiller
06-22-2007, 01:57 AM
Not really, because Chico lost the fight :lol:

I'm sure if he'd won there would've been a lot more outrage about it

I doubt it. People were on here saying Corrales was weight drained.

psychopath
06-22-2007, 02:08 AM
Fucki'n outrageous!

How can boxing survive if things like this keeps poping up. :fire

maracho
06-22-2007, 02:30 AM
I think there is bias against Mexican fighters in general including Castillo, Soto, Margarito, Marquez and even a bit against Barrera.

China_hand_Joe
06-22-2007, 07:55 AM
Fighting for free is a chance to cement legacy!

brooklyn1550
06-22-2007, 08:03 AM
This is complete BULLSHIT

Cookie
06-22-2007, 08:11 AM
Castillo shouldn't bother fighting. No point risking your life for that creep Shaw to line his pockets. Those scumbags can't take what you don't have.

Shaw is a fucking piece of shit. He underpaid Corrales for a while and bold faced lied about it, saying the guy earned millions. But explain why he only took home about $200,000 from a fight that was supposed to be one of his richest fights? And why the guy died broke? Shaw is a crook. That fat bastard.

AG11
06-22-2007, 09:24 AM
Obviously the timing of this is the most fucked up part about this.

All's I gotta say is CASTILLO BETTER MAKE WEIGHT LATER!!!!

Imagine how fucked he'd be if he didn't?!?

pit
06-22-2007, 10:02 AM
it's hard to think that castillo will fight for nothing but i'm torn because chico's wife and kids also need the money.

So does Castillio and his Kids ,, Gary shaw is a fucking ASSHOLE TO THE MAX he could have made thing right with Corrales before he died.. Gary Shaw is for Gary Shaw no one else.

pipe wrenched
06-22-2007, 10:04 AM
I guess there is the possibilty of this being a motivator for JLC. If he knew he owed all this money, he probably knew it was coming. So maybe he will go in like a damned demon posessed to take Hatton's belt insuring him another large payday soon. This Sucks!!

pit
06-22-2007, 10:05 AM
Fighting for free is a chance to cement legacy!

WTF !!!!!! Fucking Legacy don't feed your Kids man !!!!:fire :fire :fire

Relentless
06-22-2007, 10:05 AM
what the fuck!! this is such fuckin bullshit, for the guys who are saying corrales' kids need the money, you should know castillo isn't very rich either.

Wige247
06-22-2007, 10:05 AM
If I was Casamayor, I'd sue the Corrales estate for coming to their fight overweight.

China_hand_Joe
06-22-2007, 10:20 AM
It is only withheld pending something or the other, he hasn't definitely lost it for good, if I read it right. Source is fightnews.

Brickhaus
06-22-2007, 10:26 AM
Oh he wont fight. He has to think about what if he get injured? Not to mention all the people he has to pay in his camp, right now with him not getting paid he is drastically in the hole, finacially.

That makes NO sense. So he cancels the fight, still owes Shaw money from the Corrales fight, and then ALSO owes Hatton's people money for cancelling this fight? That would be just plain retarded.

Whether he makes money this fight shouldn't have any bearing on his motivation, rationally. If he wins, then he can make other big fights and make lots of money on those. If he loses, then he can't. Simple as that. It's not like his purse would have been bigger for winning anyway.

Brickhaus
06-22-2007, 10:29 AM
It is only withheld pending something or the other, he hasn't definitely lost it for good, if I read it right. Source is fightnews.

As an attorney, this sounds right to me. If the case hasn't gone to trial yet, they probably have attached his purse and are putting it in escrow. That would mean that Castillo can't get the money immediately, but if the damages to Shaw in the case are less than $1.2M, or if he wins, then he would get that part of the money at that time.

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 11:53 AM
fuckkkkkk man, i could barely sleep thinking about this shit.....fuck shaw

sandwichsurgeon
06-22-2007, 11:58 AM
There must be someone willing to shoot this fat fuck

pipe wrenched
06-22-2007, 11:58 AM
Freddy - Location under your avatar fit JLC perfectly right about now.
I'm still pickin Castillo to win, as this may actually work out as a motivator.

Thread Stealer
06-22-2007, 12:06 PM
Wait just a damn minute. Castillo was sued for not making the weight the 2nd time around, and everyone hated him for it. Yet Chico does to the same thing to Casa, and yet he was forgiven almost immediately.

The JLC bias never stops. :-(

Everyone seemed to hate Castillo for the cancelled rubber match, not necessarily because he was unprofessional, but because they didn't get to see a fight.

I personally was more bothered by the fact that he and his doctor deliberately tried to rig the scales for the 2nd fight. That is what he really should have been suspended for, that's worse than what he did for the 3rd fight.

I used to hate Castillo, but I'm more or less forgiven him and am indifferent about him now.

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 12:09 PM
Freddy - Location under your avatar fit JLC perfectly right about now.
I'm still pickin Castillo to win, as this may actually work out as a motivator.

NO SHIT HUH...











FUCK SHAW

Wilhelm
06-22-2007, 12:27 PM
Castillo will make more than enough money to pay all of his bills in his NEXT fight if he beats Hatton. If anything he'll fight harder. No way he doesn't fight.

C Money
06-22-2007, 12:28 PM
How we feel doesn't matter. Feelings only cloud judgment in things like this.


ALL FEELINGS ASIDE?? There still has to be an EQUITABLE payment schedule, once judgement is rendered. JLC was wrong before but his family has needs as well. Can you imagine the "world' where all legal penalties/fines are required up front ??? Guess everyone should start their own "crimial" escrow account, just in case???:-( :-( :-( Sounds like a great new "Insurance" product":lol: :lol: :lol:

To withhold this mans ENTIRE PURSE, is completely unfair and unrealistic. NO MAN should risk his life for NOTHING in the SPORT of Boxing.

Smith
06-22-2007, 12:30 PM
I wonder if this demotivates Castillo even a little bit that might give the edge to Hatton.Hmmmmmm

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 12:32 PM
hatton, i love'ya man...BUT CASTILLO IS GONNA KNOCK YOUR FUCKEN ASS OUT NOW.......

rumour24tiger
06-22-2007, 12:36 PM
ALL FEELINGS ASIDE?? There still has to be an EQUITABLE payment schedule, once judgement is rendered. JLC was wrong before but his family has needs as well. Can you imagine the "world' where all legal penalties/fines are required up front ??? Guess everyone should start their own "crimial" escrow account, just in case???:-( :-( :-( Sounds like a great new "Insurance" product":lol: :lol: :lol:

To withhold this mans ENTIRE PURSE, is completely unfair and unrealistic. NO MAN should risk his life for NOTHING in the SPORT of Boxing.even though he owes money, surely he has the basic human right to make a living? this sounds way too harsh.

Biggame
06-22-2007, 12:50 PM
Shaw is such a lowlife, and scumbag that he doesn't even realize how bad this makes him look to everyone! He doesn't give to shits about Chico or his family, but wants to give the appearance that he does by doing this! Trying to withhold a mans whole purse is total BS. What he just did was ensure himself the loss of some big business in boxing especially w/HBO. No top fighter or network are going to want to deal w/him knowing this is the kind of guy he is! This wasn't for Chico and his family, this was for himself! You don't tamper w/a big fight/fighter this close. This can have major affect on the outcome of the fight if there is one!

Fuck Shaw and anyone who defends, or agrees w/him!!:fire

The Kurgan
06-22-2007, 01:21 PM
There must be someone willing to shoot this fat fuck

I can't believe you'd disrespect a warrior like Castillo in such a manner. :-(

Just because he's too lazy to fulfill his contracts, it doesn't mean he's "fat".

Thread Stealer
06-22-2007, 01:25 PM
I can't believe you'd disrespect a warrior like Castillo in such a manner. :-(

Just because he's too lazy to fulfill his contracts, it doesn't mean he's "fat".

I take it he was referring to Shaw.

AG11
06-22-2007, 01:25 PM
I can't believe you'd disrespect a warrior like Castillo in such a manner. :-(

Just because he's too lazy to fulfill his contracts, it doesn't mean he's "fat".

I believe he was was reffering to Gary Shaw.

IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Serves Castillo right.
:patsch

Punishments from another deal for another fight should not be revisited on a COMPLETELY different fight. He makes weight for this one, he gets paid for this one. The suit can be settled down the line. This is just fucking stupid.

HandsOfGold
06-22-2007, 01:41 PM
Castillo not making weight the 2nd time was an awful offense. But it's not worth 1.2 million dollars and his livelihood. He'll step into the ring Saturday and put his life on the line like any other boxer and will receive no compensation for a beating he'll take, a two way beating that is because Castillo will put some hurtin' on Hatton as well.

HandsOfGold
06-22-2007, 01:42 PM
:patsch

Punishments from another deal for another fight should not be revisited on a COMPLETELY different fight. He makes weight for this one, he gets paid for this one. The suit can be settled down the line. This is just fucking stupid.
Excellent point. I don't know what the fuck the judge was smoking. You've in essence taken Castillo's right to make a living away from him.

The Kurgan
06-22-2007, 01:42 PM
I take it he was referring to Shaw.

I know. :yep

Bazooka
06-22-2007, 01:47 PM
Why did shaw decide to do this hear rather than before Castillos last fight? its not like there was no opportunity to take the money there! Fuck Shaw, I respect Chico and I feel for his family, they have alot on their plate, but to me it seems like Shaw is taking revenge on Castillo and using Chicos death to fuel it.
Pathetic if you ask me~!

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 01:55 PM
i can't wait till JIN MOSLEY writes about this.......i lover her now...

IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 01:56 PM
i can't wait till JIN MOSLEY writes about this.......i lover her now...
wait, what does boxing's First Lady have to do with this :huh

RAMPAGE0017
06-22-2007, 02:01 PM
Wow, I've never seen a fighter so ridiculed for not making weight. Give the guy a break, people.. he obviously TRIED to make the weight.

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 02:03 PM
wait, what does boxing's First Lady have to do with this :huh

homie, havn't you read her article on gary shaw....she fucken hates his guts and goes into detail about his relationship with chico........please tell me you've read it..

The Italarican
06-22-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm trying to get an update, but I asked Dan Raphael to comment on it in his chat that's live right now, and he's saying it's an internet rumor brought about by terrible reporting.

4Rounder
06-22-2007, 02:15 PM
homie, havn't you read her article on gary shaw....she fucken hates his guts and goes into detail about his relationship with chico........please tell me you've read it..

I have read a couple of her things. I would like to read her article, what website is it again? can you give us a link? highly appreciate it if you do.

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 02:21 PM
I have read a couple of her things. I would like to read her article, what website is it again? can you give us a link? highly appreciate it if you do.


VERY LONG, BUT WORTH EVERY SECOND....

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dangerousity
06-22-2007, 02:34 PM
Well if they gonna take money from Castillo on this fight, if Castillo dont go through with it, their gonna take it from his next fight. Castillo needs to pay his bills, he may try his hardest to beat Hatton leaving him open for a megamoney fight straight after.

Bazooka
06-22-2007, 02:34 PM
Castillo should just take a Knee as soon as the first bell sounds! and when he gets asked why he did that, he should say, would you fight for free? and he should also say, what you havent seen someone quit on the job before? what they are doing isnt right.

IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 02:36 PM
homie, havn't you read her article on gary shaw....she fucken hates his guts and goes into detail about his relationship with chico........please tell me you've read it..

i want to! i'm pretty much obsessed with her cute ass. hell i'd read her grocery list if i could get my hand on it. and hold it up to my nose real close, see if i could catch a whiff of her perfume. maybe suck the edges a little bit hoping maybe she'd handled the list after going to the bathroom but before washing her hands, leaving a little bit of residue. then i'd picture her cooking all the food on her grocery list in a giant tub and getting in, and start juggling the rudabagas and squishing big hunks of creamy havarti cheese between her breast and armpit...:cool:

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 02:38 PM
i want to! i'm pretty much obsessed with her cute ass. hell i'd read her grocery list if i could get my hand on it. and hold it up to my nose real close, see if i could catch a whiff of her perfume. maybe suck the edges a little bit hoping maybe she'd handled the list after going to the bathroom but before washing her hands, leaving a little bit of residue. then i'd picture her cooking all the food on her grocery list in a giant tub and getting in, and start juggling the rudabagas and squishing big hunks of creamy havarti cheese between her breast and armpit...:cool:

so in other words, you would suck shanes weenie after he has banged her :lol: :lol: :lol:


here's the article....

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IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 02:42 PM
so in other words, you would suck shanes weenie after he has banged her :lol: :lol: :lol:

i'd fucking toss that thing in a pot of boiling water and marinade myself a few gallons of Jin Juice. :love

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 02:47 PM
i'd fucking toss that thing in a pot of boiling water and marinade myself a few gallons of Jin Juice. :love

:lol: :lol:

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 03:51 PM
Read The Article Fuckerz

IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 03:59 PM
Read The Article Fuckerz

I am reading bit by bit! This shit's long and I have to occasionally make like I'm actually earning my pay. :!:

Motor City Sam
06-22-2007, 04:36 PM
i want to! i'm pretty much obsessed with her cute ass. hell i'd read her grocery list if i could get my hand on it. and hold it up to my nose real close, see if i could catch a whiff of her perfume. maybe suck the edges a little bit hoping maybe she'd handled the list after going to the bathroom but before washing her hands, leaving a little bit of residue. then i'd picture her cooking all the food on her grocery list in a giant tub and getting in, and start juggling the rudabagas and squishing big hunks of creamy havarti cheese between her breast and armpit...:cool:

IB, you have way too creative an imagination. Where do you come up with images like that?? :lol:

freddy-wak
06-22-2007, 04:43 PM
IB, you have way too creative an imagination. Where do you come up with images like that?? :lol:

i think he's brian peppers in the flesh...

IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 06:28 PM
IB, you have way too creative an imagination. Where do you come up with images like that?? :lol:

that particular one originated in my 'little head'. some of my best thinking gets outsourced there.

IntentionalButt
06-22-2007, 11:28 PM
that was a good article. i heart mrs mosley soooo much. :D

and what's this about Shane's next fight is his last ever?? :scaredas::fire